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February 13, 2008
Open Thread 08-08
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Lockheed Secures Contract to Expand Biometric Database
Clapping my shoulder a bit …
The results are in: Earlier Subprime Rescue Falters
There is a new attempt to do “something” and it is unlikely to make any difference:
In early November I had Some Thoughts On The Dollar
Four month later Paul Krugman joins me:
End of wanking … I get suspicious the minute they start naming things like military operations, “New Hope Alliance”, “Project Lifeline”. Still their going to have to do a lot better than these; Posted by: anna missed | Feb 13 2008 8:27 utc | 4 @dos,#2 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 13 2008 9:48 utc | 6 I’m starting to lose my fear of bottled water. I should start worrying about something new. Hmm… how about “baby boomers”?
Well, shit! I never even thought of that! Those evil terrorists could look all pregnant! Maybe they’re keeping bottled water in their marsupial pregnant-looking pouches! If I don’t punch that pregnant-looking woman in the abdomen IMMEDIATELY, I might not be a true, patriotic American! Yes, yes, I know they have cameras in airports now that can see through clothing and reveal our danglies to bored TSA officials, but, but, these are PROSTHETICS we are talking about! Maybe the terrorists have lined REAL PREGNANT WOMEN with lead so that we can’t see through them to reveal that they have filled their peritoneal cavities with bottles of highly dangerous Evian! We need to ACT NOW to stop this threat…
Huh. Well, that’s different. I’m not so frightened of pregnant-looking or even overweight people now. Unless the pregnant or overweight-looking person works for Homeland Security. Those guys still scare the hell out of me. Posted by: Monolycus | Feb 13 2008 11:56 utc | 7 I’m starting to lose my fear of bottled water Posted by: annie | Feb 13 2008 14:48 utc | 8 Yesterday someone, (Israel or the U.S.?), offed the military leader of Hizbullah, Imad Mughniyah, with a car bomb in Damascus.
Now who is it? How can Iran plan and Mughniyah mastermind? Isn’t the mastermind the planer? Any proof? Pregnant bellies *bomb.* Posted by: Tangerine | Feb 13 2008 18:48 utc | 11 Çalling Ace Decoders…Time to begin a Monthly Moon Contest “Make Sense of This”? Words Fail Me Here Posted by: jj | Feb 13 2008 20:55 utc | 12 some fragments of a story i first pointed out in an earlier open thread on feb 4
more info in this
Posted by: b real | Feb 13 2008 21:03 utc | 13 heavens that massacre in the philippines ,gruesome. Posted by: annie | Feb 13 2008 22:00 utc | 15 One of the peculiar features of the present era is the near universal absence of infighting in the halls of power. The pinnacle is populated by the ultra greedy, the ultimate control freaks, the psychopats as discussed in the Fear thread, and by definition these sorts don’t mesh well with others – especially others of their own kind. So, normally, you’d see jostling for the top position, palace coups, the general conspiring against the grand vizier, high level assasinations. But not these days. For all I can see, the global elite is one tight-knit happy little family, not willing to so much as talk behind one another’s backs. The palaces of the modern world are for the most part filled with indistinguishable, interchangeable figures uninterested in making waves. With one notable exception. In Georgia, apparently, the old rules still apply. The powerful versus the powerful, knife to knife.
See this link from last November for part of the backstory. And this for his bio. Former associate of Berezovsky, partner of Murdoch, financer of the Rose Revolution… He had everything going for him, too bad he couldn’t sit nice and wait for his turn as opposition leaders everywhere else are doing. Posted by: Alamet | Feb 13 2008 22:00 utc | 16 “… there’s no such thing as a one-nation arms race,” says Tom Engelhardt in his introduction to the John Feffer article, Asia’s Hidden Arms Race.
The Growing Military-Industrial Complex in Asia Posted by: Alamet | Feb 14 2008 1:22 utc | 17 This is exactly what Iraq needed. No, really.
Gives a whole new meaning to “captive market.” Posted by: Alamet | Feb 14 2008 1:28 utc | 18 Alamet: “One of the peculiar features of the present era is the near universal absence of infighting in the halls of power. The pinnacle is populated by the ultra greedy, the ultimate control freaks, the psychopats as discussed in the Fear thread, and by definition these sorts don’t mesh well with others – especially others of their own kind.” Posted by: Rick | Feb 14 2008 1:44 utc | 19 alamet 16, another friend of Berezovsky, like Litvinenko. Posted by: annie | Feb 14 2008 2:11 utc | 20 one of the disturbing features of the russian oligarchs – mafiosi – is that they are without exception jewish – & in a country where the situation of anti semitism is far from clear, berezovsky et al fit too conveniently into the caricature of ‘the jew’ , the oligarchs provoke it too flouting their citizenship to the state of israel Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 14 2008 2:27 utc | 21 @Rick, I think about that everyday. That’s why there is no grass roots opposition to the Elite Agenda. There is unbelievable unanimity across the Elites re the Agenda, in broad outline at least. I wish I knew more about what impact Soros had upon Liberal Jews. They, after all, were as individuals primary funders of the Civil Rights mvmt, long before it was even safe for the Corps. to get on board. Though it has to be remembered that Brown v. Board of Ed. was a decision written at the behest of the Corp. Blue Bloods, when one of them – I forget the name but it was up there w/the Lodges, Harrimans, Dulles etc. the handful of blue bloods who ran the country – came back from Latin Am. in early 50’s & said we have to change things up here ‘cuz we’re meeting resistance doing business down there ‘cu they think we’re racist. Posted by: jj | Feb 14 2008 3:02 utc | 22 @21, Posted by: jony_b_cool | Feb 14 2008 4:30 utc | 23 Geez, b real, et al…
. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 14 2008 6:05 utc | 24 Re 25 above: for best results, turn up the volume. Posted by: Hamburger | Feb 14 2008 9:51 utc | 26 that was me. gee, i’d say happy valentines day but i am not quite in the spirit yet. waiting for my coffee to cool down, i’m sure that will get me all jazzed up. Posted by: annie | Feb 14 2008 14:35 utc | 29 Methodist and Presbyterian Churches divest from Israel
From the article,
Pithy comment from another board I visit: Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 14 2008 15:07 utc | 30 uncle @23- yea, i saw all those when they first came out via a kenyan blog link. (and asked myself – could the photogs perhaps have spoken up or intervened any earlier?) other gruesome pix like those have been circulating on the net too but i have to tune them out otherwise it becomes so difficult (for me) to continue following. there was one picture, saw it in several places, of a little boy all by himself & bawling on a bed inside his home that really hit me. his mother was laying dead in a pool of blood on the floor only a couple feet away. and it becomes hard to continue typing when you have to keep drying your eyes & feeling nausea & the normal instinct is to withdraw from such horrors. Posted by: b real | Feb 14 2008 15:51 utc | 31 Saudis to execute a woman for witchcraft Posted by: annie | Feb 14 2008 16:03 utc | 32 propaganda team runamuk Al-Qaida in Iraq threatens Israel Posted by: annie | Feb 14 2008 16:13 utc | 33 This is huge:
Good analysis: Building a failed state?
This could very well fit both here and Monolycus’ recent post, I think I’ll put it there too…
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 15 2008 11:03 utc | 37 Interesting piece, also touching on Africa: The Nature of 21st Century Conflict
Another Professor acknowledging my “trillion” as in comment 3:
Should I up my estimate? Well, a few hundred billions more will not matter much … Pakistani official taped saying vote will be rigged
Posted by: annie | Feb 15 2008 16:59 utc | 40 the consistently excellent Chris Floyd under relentless DOS attacks by cyber goons. Posted by: ran | Feb 15 2008 17:08 utc | 41 @annie40 – Pakistani elections are very different that those we do. It is largely still a feudal society, at least in the rural parts. China Hand has a good overview: The Arrow, the Tiger, and the Bicycle – The Battle for Punjab and Pakistan’s Future
S/he also looks into the Interantional Republican Institute which is already fudging the numbers.
Accountability? What’s that?
U.S. Forces Accused of Killing Relatives of Iraqi Ally
In case Uncle, or any other Barflies, need a Fri. eve. Laugh Posted by: jj | Feb 16 2008 7:54 utc | 45 Bush: “Give me unlimited, unchecked surveillance or you’re all going to die!” (Okay, I paraphrased the headline a bit).
Blahblahblahblahblah, and it goes on like that. Posted by: Monolycus | Feb 16 2008 10:25 utc | 46 Mono, heres a nice quote from Kennedy, that sums it up politically: Posted by: anna missed | Feb 16 2008 10:34 utc | 47 I have been waiting for someone to post “the rest of the story” on Steven Spielberg’s decision to not play in the Chinese Olympics. I found it odd that he would 1, not want to play a part in the Games after asking to be able to participate and 2, somehow turn this into a blame China for the trouble in Darfur.
Apparently the US government is not overly concerned with China over Darfur as seen here
so, what is really happening here? why has it become fashionable to slam China for the civil war in Sudan? more smoke and mirrors? Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 16 2008 13:31 utc | 48 so, what is really happening here? why has it become fashionable to slam China for the civil war in Sudan? more smoke and mirrors? are you suggesting that Spielberg is a willing dupe of the defense industries? Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 16 2008 14:05 utc | 50 Spielberg works closely with CIA, I don’t have time now to back that statement up, but will later… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 16 2008 15:15 utc | 51 Here’s a treat and a story, I posted at my other home away from home, Amsam, some but not all may find of interest, especially to us Jazz lovers…
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 16 2008 15:29 utc | 52 DoD Honors “Private Ryan” Director Spielberg
i’ve only caught bytes of the spielberg/darfur story in my peripheral vision, but the olympics boycott issue is another campaign from the same orgs (of heavily jewish-origins) that brought us the “save darfur” propaganda mvmt. i find it a hypocritical stance, made even more incredible by the willingness of the MSM and most pundits to play along w/ it. if it’s now fair season to “politicize” events of this magnitude, let us exert such “leverage” objectively and at targets that actually do hold power in very disasterous conflicts. is this a path they really want to open? the mass brutalization of iraq, afghanistan, the congo & somalia come immediately to mind…
i’m almost certain that the bush admin is still funding both sides of the conflict in darfur, and their close relations w/ the govt in khartoum — intel, cia HQ, etc — belie any notion that they’re strictly playing one side.
i haven’t read up on the sudan sitch extensively, but i get the idea that the u.s. will eventually be supporting the succession of the oil-rich south from the rest of sudan – the largest country on the continent btw. Posted by: b real | Feb 16 2008 18:22 utc | 54 Some of you may remember, although it was many months ago, where I described an older friend of mine dying of cancer. I described him to MOA readers as simply Mr. D. I searched for the link to my old posting but could not find it. I remember detailing how the U.S. government interfered with Mr. D’s mail to a Cuban friend.
Posted by: Rick | Feb 16 2008 18:53 utc | 56 International Iraqi Oil Law Action Day
Posted by: Alamet | Feb 16 2008 22:37 utc | 62 Hmm… Could play out both ways.
Posted by: Alamet | Feb 16 2008 22:42 utc | 63 beautiful letter rick. you life was richer for knowing him, it sounds like many lives were. Posted by: annie | Feb 17 2008 2:57 utc | 64 alamet, interesting this report comes solely from china. Posted by: annie | Feb 17 2008 3:02 utc | 65 @annie – 65 – Xinhua is very good in reporting from Iraq – the best stringer network of all agencies.
Regarding #66
Welcome to the grim meathook future: Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 17 2008 8:53 utc | 67 4 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 17 2008 8:55 utc | 68 had hoped to do a writeup on bush’s victory leapfrog across africa, but time is too short, so here are a couple items for now
and soon he’ll be headed to visit kagame in rwanda
Posted by: b real | Feb 17 2008 9:10 utc | 69 (Part 3 of four) Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 17 2008 9:13 utc | 70 (Part 4 Final)
Snip:
You know the why and who… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 17 2008 9:15 utc | 71 We’ll see more of this – the “Awakening Movement” wakes up:
on the off chance that someone here has not yet seen Keith Olbermann’s rant on FISA, here it is Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 17 2008 12:29 utc | 73 In addition to my above, some maybe interested to revisit or learn for the first time about the Subversive Activities Control Act, McCarran Act or ISA) . Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 17 2008 13:48 utc | 75 Suicide bomber kills 80 in Afghanistan In other news today: Prison privatization woes…
I’m expected to believe that there can be fair due process in a judicial system at the same time that there exists an economic incentive to return guilty verdicts…? Posted by: Monolycus | Feb 18 2008 15:00 utc | 78 The carrion eaters are getting impatient:
Indeed… Meanwhile, in new security-improved Baghdad,
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