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January 26, 2008
OT 08-05
I’ll be traveling the next two days, so there will be only light, if any, posting. Please let us know your news & views here. Open thread …
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Bush Order Expands Network Monitoring
“Freedom Watch” – the Jewish Republican billonaire lobby:
Because we need to bring the knowledge down and into the streets and out of the locked away Ivory tower. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 26 2008 9:11 utc | 3
Because we need to bring the knowledge down and into the streets and out of the locked away Ivory tower. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 26 2008 9:12 utc | 4 Bush Administration Pays $5 Million Reward to Moussaoui Tipster Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 26 2008 9:36 utc | 5 Completely selfish Q:
Is someone looking for a position in the next admin? Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 26 2008 11:46 utc | 6 Hamburger, Posted by: swio | Jan 26 2008 13:11 utc | 7 Hamburger, Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 26 2008 15:15 utc | 8 Their Ship Comes In! Posted by: Beloit Lindau | Jan 26 2008 20:49 utc | 9 Dan #8, Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 26 2008 21:51 utc | 10 Cenk Uygur and Robert Greenwald live discussion video on SC vote if you’re interested. Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 26 2008 23:21 utc | 11 Chavez Urges Latin American Allies to Begin Withdrawing Billions of Dollars From U.S. Banks
The piece goes on to say,
I am thinking nobody, not even a puppet thorough and thorough like, say, Maliki, would shout “long live the US government”. Or any other government. You praise the country, or the nation. Not the government… Is the AP misreading a burst of sarcasm here? Posted by: Alamet | Jan 27 2008 0:05 utc | 12 So… Now they are saying, without quite saying it, that Litvinenko was likely killed by the Ukranian mafia. Posted by: Alamet | Jan 27 2008 0:45 utc | 13 Here’s all you need to know about S.C. primary – Don’t believe any of the results – Paper Ballots are Illegal – Electronic Voting Only Posted by: jj | Jan 27 2008 2:34 utc | 14 Chomsky interview (finally) on what diff. JackAss Party will make, Iran, Pakistan, etc. link (Trying to excerpt his interviews is like finding the best part of a great bottle of wine, or juiciest morsel of a rib-eye steak, and so forth…) Posted by: jj | Jan 27 2008 7:11 utc | 15 Indonesia’s former President Mohammed Suharto who towered over Indonesian politics for 32 years, has died in hospital aged 86 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 27 2008 9:23 utc | 16 Elevator operator: Good evening sir, please enjoy your descent to the circles of hell. Would you prefer the boiling pitch of the 8th or being frozen up to your neck of the 9th? Or perhaps a nice cocktail of both simultaneously? Sort of a living death, if you will. Posted by: anna missed | Jan 27 2008 10:20 utc | 17 The last bubbling in the Sibel Edmonds’ cauldron has already been noted here and is discussed here by Luke Ryland. There is also a provocative comment following Ryland’s discussion of the matter. However that link leads to what I fear is a poisoned well (the Riconosciuto-Casalaro story again rears it’s head). Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jan 27 2008 10:39 utc | 18 odd. at the commencement of the gonnoreah ridden golem’s venereal vaudeville at cnn on obama – clinton – there was an announcement of an attack – i think a mortar attack on the green zone – presented as breaking news – but then it dissapeared & i have read no account of this report since Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 27 2008 14:33 utc | 19 rememberinggiap, here’s an article that mentions it. Apparently there are so many of these attacks that they just aren’t ‘news’ anymore. Posted by: Ensley | Jan 27 2008 15:10 utc | 20 ensley Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 27 2008 18:24 utc | 21 b Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 27 2008 18:43 utc | 22 & on that venereal vaudevill that passes for electoral politics in thos united states – tho they are all evil motherfuckers- i think the deviant motherfucker guiliani has florida sown up – read something the other day where his people were leading people to prepolling throughout florida & he seems to think it is sown up either by that, or the illegality, of that harris woman or any configuration thereof – or he is simply a great deal more stupid than i imagine Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 27 2008 19:24 utc | 23 just a paranthesis – but here in france there is not one day that goes by where there isn’t a new slander against either venezuela or of her leader, hugo chavez Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 27 2008 20:24 utc | 24 hannah 18 , your first link isn’t opening for me. can you try it again? Posted by: annie | Jan 27 2008 20:45 utc | 25 sunday morning reads . . . Posted by: manonfyre | Jan 27 2008 20:46 utc | 26 out of the horse’s mouth or ass – senator mccain says , “there will be other wars” Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 27 2008 21:52 utc | 27 John McCain should be the poster ‘child’ for chronic PTSD. If he isn’t the #1 prime example of what post-traumatic stress disorder is here in the United States, I’ll kiss your butt. The man is batshit crazy! Posted by: Ensley | Jan 27 2008 22:19 utc | 28 uhh-ohh: Eight shot dead in Beirut opposition protests
This long NYT piece on the decay of the U.S. empire and the rise of three world power centers, China-EU-US and midle powers inbetween, has a lot of vison in it. @r’giap @22 – seems as if there is some mildly good news in german electoral politics b#,3 Posted by: anna missed | Jan 27 2008 23:13 utc | 32 @r’giap @22 – seems as if there is some mildly good news in german electoral politics @b: Can someone get me the book by that writer early? Posted by: mats | Jan 28 2008 0:01 utc | 34 @R’Giap, could you give us a bit more info. on Ownership of French Press. You used to have a fantastic diverse press representing the full politcal spectrum. But then I don’t know that you have a very full political spectrum anymore anyway. I ask ‘cuz I thght. I heard someone say that Sarkozy was a variant of Italy’s Berlusconi w/heavy ownership of Fr. Press. Is that so? Has Rupie made inroads in your land as well? Is the rest of the spectrum convulsed, or some might say coalesced, around the Predators Are God ideology, or “neo-liberalism” as they like to mis-represent themselves? Posted by: jj | Jan 28 2008 0:51 utc | 36 Re the Beirut incident today, the Arab Monitor (full copy):
And the KUNA report ends with
Working to calm the situation… Which would make him the target of choice for provacateurs, of course. Posted by: Alamet | Jan 28 2008 1:14 utc | 37 Palestinians Bid Farewell to Al-Hakeem, Dr. George Habash
Posted by: Alamet | Jan 28 2008 1:17 utc | 38 This one for the too-weird-to-be-ignored file:
He will most likely turn out to be plain ordinary crazy, but it could be something to keep an eye on. Posted by: Alamet | Jan 28 2008 1:31 utc | 39 jj Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 28 2008 1:34 utc | 40 Read Debtor Nation carefully, forward and backwards, then send it to 10 American friends. Posted by: Jubel Ali | Jan 28 2008 3:59 utc | 41 Brilliant 6 page article that exposes how the US government has made up most of the terror alert threats, and moreover has staged all of the post 9/11 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 28 2008 11:52 utc | 42 video:Mosul explosion done by the American military Posted by: annie | Jan 28 2008 13:38 utc | 44 the majority of people including America’s liberals insist that there is nothing suspicious about what we’ve been told about 9/11 Posted by: annie | Jan 28 2008 13:48 utc | 45 not really any new information in this article, though it is noteworthy since it’s the financial times pointing it out
Posted by: b real | Jan 28 2008 15:47 utc | 46 @ Annie Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jan 28 2008 15:53 utc | 47 For those who live in the US and are concerned about the situation in Gaza, here is something concrete to do: Posted by: Bea | Jan 28 2008 21:35 utc | 48 Interesting stats out of Afghanistan when comparing year on year monthly coalition deaths for January (3 days still left): Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jan 28 2008 22:17 utc | 49 just watched the gruesome golem senator liebermann – where the fuck does he come from – parliamentary politicians take on treason like a topcoat but this fellow is in a subspecies of his own Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 28 2008 22:54 utc | 50 garowe: Ethiopian troops abandon key military base in central Somalia
an idea of what the ugandan “peacekeepers” there have been up against in mogadishu after a one-year presence, from sunday’s new vision
Posted by: b real | Jan 28 2008 23:24 utc | 51 STUTTGART, Germany (Reuters) – A year after President George W. Bush approved its creation, the new U.S. military command for Africa is finding its feet but has quietly dropped talk of basing itself on the African continent. Posted by: Sam | Jan 29 2008 7:09 utc | 52 Now that we all have filled our barf bags from Obamination’s bullshit about how he’s for change, I’ve finally discovered what that means. It means vote for me, throw out the Clintons… It sure as hell does NOT refer to economic policy, one of the most important aspect of this election as our country is on the lip of the abyss…I finally dug up info. on Economic Advisers of Elite Approved Candidates. Obamination’s boy is – Surprise Surprise – a Chicago Economist… Barf Away Barflies Posted by: jj | Jan 29 2008 9:54 utc | 54 Oh, come on jj, you know obomba is for real change! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 29 2008 10:29 utc | 55 CDC Suppressed Toxic Trailer Warnings
Years later and these poor people are still being fucked over… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 29 2008 10:36 utc | 56 I’m seriously kinda surprised no one has commented on the excellent Rollingstone article, aside from annie whom disagreed with the choice of words used in comment. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 29 2008 11:58 utc | 57 Yes Uncle, I printed it and took it with me to an appointment yesterday. I considered leaving it for someone else but wanted to share it with someone at home first. Posted by: beq | Jan 29 2008 12:02 utc | 58 Oh. Did you have any luck with the links at top and bottom? They came up blank for me. Posted by: beq | Jan 29 2008 12:09 utc | 59 yes, Uncle $cam. It dovetails nicely with this: Posted by: jcairo | Jan 29 2008 13:08 utc | 60 @beq Posted by: snafu | Jan 29 2008 13:13 utc | 61 re #59, blank for me too. Will mention R. Stone article online on local radio show that actually doesn’t cut me off, also the Wolfowitz West Point speech in previous OT. Thanks Uncle. OK am I crazy or does this read the way I am reading it:
Now here is the question: Am I reading this right??? Did Our Man at the UN Bolton clearly and indisputably state that Israel’s interests are far more important to him than the position adopted by his own Secretary of State, and did he suggest that the only way to ensure that Israel’s interests could be met at this time was to engineer an intervention by Olmert to sway Bush to intervene to pressure Rice? Posted by: Bea | Jan 29 2008 14:57 utc | 64 Lieberman: Vote for McCain because he is the best for Israel because he won’t flinch at attacking Iran militarily Posted by: Bea | Jan 29 2008 15:07 utc | 65 @ Uncle $cam Posted by: Bea | Jan 29 2008 15:12 utc | 66 uncle @57 – printed it out yesterday but did not have time to read it yet. will comment on it when i get the chance to. keep ’em coming. Posted by: b real | Jan 29 2008 15:19 utc | 67 hannah 47, thanks. i signed up for lukery’s updates and s/he interviewed sibel again . Posted by: annie | Jan 29 2008 15:40 utc | 68 there are many reasons why people do things like ..vote for a candidate they actually believe in…than because they ‘believe in the system’. Posted by: annie | Jan 29 2008 15:45 utc | 69 for those of you still interested in the Minot (or Wilmot if your tin foil hat is on too tight) cruise missile story, you might want to take a look at this site. A lot of people are being punished and for good reason. As I maintained from the beginning, this was not an elaborate scam to get missiles to the middle-east….it was simply a monumental fvckup Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 29 2008 17:38 utc | 72 Uncle Scam at 42, annie at 45. Posted by: Tangerine | Jan 29 2008 17:48 utc | 73 “…they have studiously avoided the the few avenues open to them that would unmask and destroy the official tale. Instantly.” Posted by: beq | Jan 29 2008 18:01 utc | 74 AG Mukasey Blocking Gonzales Investigation
Gladhand back-scratching ass-covering motherfuckers, I hate them… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 29 2008 18:43 utc | 75 Upon review, thanks guys sometimes it just seems like one is speaking into a void here lately.. da bar has been kinda lonely feelin lately… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 29 2008 18:56 utc | 76 Uncle$cam and all, Posted by: Rick | Jan 29 2008 19:25 utc | 77 rick Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 29 2008 19:34 utc | 78 perhaps in this year the johnny come latelies to the truth in ‘journalism’ will pompously pump out their ‘truths’ Posted by: annie | Jan 30 2008 0:41 utc | 79 garowe online: Ethiopian generals complain about Somalia’s new PM
heh. they must be taking some heat from their bosses Posted by: b real | Jan 30 2008 5:54 utc | 80 This is a weird AP dispatch: The headline is Missile Strike Kills 12 in Pakistan which lets me assume that the U.S. send another Predator UAV and killed some “supects” and their families.
Only further down are some hints:
Three excerpts from Jonathan Steel’s book “DEFEAT – Why they lost Iraq”
‘We had no idea we were not wanted’
b 81, the headline has been scrubbed. it now says “3 Militants Die at Missile Site in Pakistan”.
Posted by: annie | Jan 30 2008 16:43 utc | 83 stars and stripes: AFRICOM staff to grow to 1,300 as it takes over military activities
the original estimates were 600-700 staff for the HQ itself. it is also expected that each of five regional subcommands (RIT hubs) will consist of roughly 20 full-time staff each. there is also a JIOC – joint intel op cmd – dedicated for AFRICOM for which another estimated 600-700 personnel will be employed. Posted by: b real | Jan 30 2008 17:01 utc | 84 vijay prashad: Skimmers of the Sea
Posted by: b real | Jan 30 2008 17:19 utc | 85 robert perry : CBS Falsifies Iraq War History Posted by: annie | Jan 30 2008 18:15 utc | 86 shabelle: More than fifty Ethiopian armed vehicles vacates from Mogadishu
shabelle: Some of Mogadishu main roads reopened
reuters: Somalia is worst humanitarian crisis, UN official
some real bullshit in that reuters article — e.g., “Islamist militia calling themselves the Islamic Courts Council temporarily wrested control of the capital and other parts of Somalia in 2006”, or bettocchi stating that monday’s bomb which killed the aid workers “is just another example of the way the insurgents are trying to destabilise the whole country” — and is somalia really more of a humanitarian crisis than iraq? but however it ranks against iraq, it’s the same actor responsible for both. and the global community seems okay w/ that. Posted by: b real | Jan 30 2008 20:01 utc | 87 preview at washington decoded of a book coming out next week detailing zelikow’s role on the 911 commission
Posted by: b real | Jan 30 2008 20:43 utc | 88 current u.s. efforts to bamboozle nigerians
wondering if he also spoke real slow and deliberately as he reeled off three simply’s in two sentences. just so they could understand him, ya know…
that’s a good one – the DoD is going to enhance your sovereignty.
this day: US: No Plan for Military Base in Nigeria
c’mon bro – help a sister out here, ya know what i’m sayin’
improving the import/export infrastructure in africa’s oil-producing regions will make exploitation more predictable. by reducing perceived risks and calming investor fears, AFRICOM, empire’s latest military command, hopes to spur more outside investment in increasing africa’s production capacities in order to meet anticipated global demand for crude. that this program has failed, so far, in the persian gulf, hardly registers. or matters. Posted by: b real | Jan 31 2008 4:03 utc | 90 “I’ll make note not to visit Vermont … too many moonbats!” wrote Bob Bogart of Chattanooga, Tenn. Posted by: catlady | Jan 31 2008 6:32 utc | 91 American Oil companies offered five million dollars to each Iraqi MP to pass the Oil law
Posted by: anna missed | Jan 31 2008 7:00 utc | 92 American Oil companies offered five million dollars to each Iraqi MP to pass the Oil law
Posted by: anna missed | Jan 31 2008 7:05 utc | 93 And if that doesn’t work, there’s always the new signing statement: Posted by: anna missed | Jan 31 2008 7:11 utc | 94 anna missed @ #93 Posted by: crone | Jan 31 2008 22:24 utc | 95 crone, Posted by: anna missed | Feb 1 2008 0:08 utc | 96 |
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