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December 21, 2007
Trends and the Garden of Eden

There is this awesome trend I spotted.

First I thought it was unreal, that there was no trend at all, just a random deviation from what I considered to be normal.

But then, in July, about the same time as this surge thing took off in Iraq, I started to make notes about this phenomenon. You know, really writing down my observation every day. Even more, I did it twice a day.

Every morning I wrote down the time the sun went up. Every evening I documented when it went down.

In mid July there were over 16 hours between sunrise and sunset. By mid September daylight was down to 12 hours, mid October to 10 hours and mid November to 8 hours per day. Those observations had me really concerned.

The consequences were obvious to me. If the speed of what happened had continued, we would be down to zero hours of daylight in mid March. Frightening thought, isn’t it?

Others have noted the trend too. When I was shopping today, everyone seemed to stock up on candles. No wonder, it is getting darker each day. One shop even had no candles left. Also people were buying lots of thick cloth. It will be cold when total darkness has finally fallen upon us. That day (will we still call it a ‘day’?) is near.

But here is good news. That is, good and bad news. In December the trend seems to have slowed down a bit, relieving some of my fears. Today we had about 7 hours of daylight. More than the 6 my first calculations had me expect.

But the daily trend in December is still downwards and there is no datapoint in my observations that supports any other expectation than eternal darkness. I gave this some additional thought.

Where there was a decrease of 2 hours of daylight from month to month, the trend has slowed to a 1 hour decrease per month. As we come near to zero sunshine, this slowdown is explainable. The loss in daytime from July to August was 2 of 16 hours, some 12.5%. The loss from November to December was about the same. 1 of 8 hours of daylight vanished – 12.5%.

Using some math wizardry, I recalculated my projections using that constant loss rate. My now refined trend evaluation points to 3 hours of daylight in March 2008 and only 1.5 hours of daylight twelve month from now.

So still bad news for all of us.

Other people are more lucky. Especially those in Iraq. There they have trends in the positive direction.

As noted above, my daylight observations started around the same time the U.S. surge in Iraq began to make a difference.

At the end of July O’Hanlon and Pollack wrote in the NYT about the surge success:

Here is the most important thing Americans need to understand: We are finally getting somewhere in Iraq, …

In mid September the President spoke to his people:

This week, General David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker testified before Congress about how that strategy is progressing. In their testimony, these men made clear that our challenge in Iraq is formidable. Yet they concluded that conditions in Iraq are improving, that we are seizing the initiative from the enemy, and that the troop surge is working.

Unlike the ever increasing darkness around us, the peace trend in Iraq is upwards.

Just today the Fort Worth Star Telegram prints an interview with one of the commanders in Baghdad, Brig. Gen. John F. Campbell. The good general explains the trend:

Since the surge started, we’ve seen a dramatic decrease in the level of violence. It’s undeniable. There are several challenges out there, and we’re not declaring victory. But we’ve seen a lot of progress.

The General points to hard data:

There has been a 77 percent decrease in the number of attacks [on Iraqi civilians and U.S. troops] from June 2007 to the end of November. There has been an 88 percent decrease in casualties. There has been a 65 percent decrease in car bombs from December ’06 to November ’07.

All this data points into the same direction – a confirmed trend:

There is a little ebb and flow in each neighborhood, but for the most part, they’re all getting a little bit better. The key is the people. Ninety-nine percent of the people just want to get on with their lives. … In the past, you could not walk around the streets. Now, traffic is as bad as Washington, D.C. The markets are open and lively, all because the security has continued to get better.

With so much data, all confirming the trend, the extrapolation is easy to make.

Iraq has improved some x% per month. All the data points supports this. Iraq will continue to become better.

The trend in Iraq is up – up, up and away.

By the time we’ll need candle light for our lunches, Iraq will again have become the Garden of Eden.

Comments

perfect b

Posted by: annie | Dec 21 2007 18:59 utc | 1

I second that emotion. Hear! Hear!

Posted by: Hamburger | Dec 21 2007 20:00 utc | 2

Great post.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Dec 21 2007 22:09 utc | 3

Of war and peace the truth just twists
Its curfew gull just glides
Upon four-legged forest clouds
The cowboy angel rides
With his candle lit into the sun
Though its glow is waxed in black
All except when ‘neath the trees of Eden
The lamppost stands with folded arms
Its iron claws attached
To curbs ‘neath holes where babies wail
Though it shadows metal badge
All and all can only fall
With a crashing but meaningless blow
No sound ever comes from the Gates of Eden
The savage soldier sticks his head in sand
And then complains
Unto the shoeless hunter who’s gone deaf
But still remains
Upon the beach where hound dogs bay
At ships with tattooed sails
Heading for the Gates of Eden
With a time-rusted compass blade
Aladdin and his lamp
Sits with Utopian hermit monks
Side saddle on the Golden Calf
And on their promises of paradise
You will not hear a laugh
All except inside the Gates of Eden
Relationships of ownership
They whisper in the wings
To those condemned to act accordingly
And wait for succeeding kings
And I try to harmonize with songs
The lonesome sparrow sings
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden
The motorcycle black madonna
Two-wheeled gypsy queen
And her silver-studded phantom cause
The gray flannel dwarf to scream
As he weeps to wicked birds of prey
Who pick up on his bread crumb sins
And there are no sins inside the Gates of Eden
The kingdoms of Experience
In the precious wind they rot
While paupers change possessions
Each one wishing for what the other has got
And the princess and the prince
Discuss what’s real and what is not
It doesn’t matter inside the Gates of Eden
The foreign sun, it squints upon
A bed that is never mine
As friends and other strangers
From their fates try to resign
Leaving men wholly, totally free
To do anything they wish to do but die
And there are no trials inside the Gates of Eden
At dawn my lover comes to me
And tells me of her dreams
With no attempts to shovel the glimpse
Into the ditch of what each one means
At times I think there are no words
But these to tell what’s true
And there are no truths outside the Gates of Eden

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 21 2007 22:58 utc | 4

mr zimmerman, evidently
& i give thanks in more ways than one to our sailing ghost ships with b at the wheel
force, amité et tendresse
still steel

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 21 2007 23:00 utc | 5

Senator Aiken of Vermont, some forty years ago, urged that we simply “declare victory in Viet Nam and go home”. So now we’re pulling out of Iraq (yes, it’s happening, though the tempo of this retreat escapes me). The insurgents, of course, are lying low–this is their end of the deal–and will continue to do so as long as the retreat stays on schedule.
A mere fantasy on my part? Perhaps it is–I have no hard evidence to support it. But the American ground forces are broken. And what do you do with a broken army? You don’t leave it in the field.

Posted by: alabama | Dec 22 2007 0:33 utc | 6

To put heart in the sun and encourage it to fight back against this plot by dark forces, here is a little something that – almost – managed to lift me out of my funk:
Youtube video
It is a Kirkuk folk song, either Turkoman or Arabic in origin, probably both, performed by a group of Turkish music students in flamenco style. The tune is Iraqi, the lyrics Turkish, the beat Spanish… A reminder that Iraqi culture doesn’t begin and end with ancient history. That they had a vibrant, joyful everyday culture, and will have it again. That behind the current bloodbath which is not native to Iraq but is the only thing the media wants us to focus on, the Iraqi people have so much to share with a peaceable world.
A new dawn indeed, tomorrow. Happy holidays, all.

Posted by: Alamet | Dec 22 2007 0:46 utc | 7

i hope to hell it is broken. the actual flowering of democracy in central & latin america depends in part on that being the case
but this is the time of the brutes & even tho they are clearly incapable of carrying out two operations at once – they are powerful enough to give seed to the darker forces in this world that have not been vanquished
how many graduates of the school of america are prepared to create 1000 gardens of gesthemane for the blood to flow on the soil of a promised liberty
as for their lies b – i really do not think they are capable ofseeing anything let alone to give prophecy. they are doomed – they are committing suicied as an army and as a nation – the question is – how many people & countries will they take down with it
they are after all so crude – they make the romans look refined

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 22 2007 1:27 utc | 8

We’ll be eating candles before this war is over.

Posted by: biklett | Dec 22 2007 2:11 utc | 9

or on the darker side,bikett we may, like iraqis, become candes

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 22 2007 2:17 utc | 10

thanks Alamet,
beautiful

Posted by: anna missed | Dec 22 2007 3:34 utc | 11

The you tube track was amazing and sad because of course the amerikan divide and rule strategy has all but destroyed the once vibrant cosmopolitanism of Iraq.
The Beeb tried to do a story on Turkmenistan last night. One which said how awful life was under the new leader Gurbanguly Berdimuhammedow, who won 97% of the primary vote in February after the death of President for Life Saparmurat Niyazov one year ago.
trouble was they couldn’t find anyone to agree. They interviewed a bunch of young women, college graduates of some amerikan program aimed at splitting the young people off from the original vibrant (and looks very cool) culture. trouble is the women returned home after their sojourn in amerika pleased to be back living in a nation where most get a fair shake of the stick, food is subsidised it costs about 2 bucks to fill yer car up with gas and unlike Venezuala there doesn’t seem to be any former colonial masters hangin round tryin to spoil the equity.
An islamic Venezuala was the feeling I got about the place, because yes it does have quite a lot of hydrocarbons under the desert. The bossfella seems interested in sharing the fruits of their exploitation.
The beeb reporter claimed that the amerikan ambassy had one of the few internet access facilities, but when the story changed to a studio interview of some english prof who holds the chair in central asian studies at one of the newer english uni’s it transpired that there are net cafes etc in Turkmenistan but since few locals use the interweb they don’t have much local trade.
Funny that peeps that still prefer talking face to face than email.
I gather USuk are most perplexed, nay angry at this parlous state of affairs. That is, they have found a country with the entry fee, but that nation doesn’t want to join the club. It has the fourth fastest growing GDP in the world yet everyone seems happy with the old ways.
Of course the Putin led Russian rennaisance has put the kybosh on overt USuk interference in the Turkmenistan people’s destiny. Hence the weird beeb crack at slandering the joint. I suppose the story ia planned as the first of many lying insinuations about the place.
They cannot get the locals to care about ‘democracy’ which must be very unsettling. The sign of things to come we hope. May there be many more populations who put the welfare of their families ahead of corporate propaganda.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 22 2007 5:15 utc | 12

Agreed, thanks Alamet, that was beautiful and bittersweet sad.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 22 2007 5:57 utc | 13

alamet, thank you from my heart

Posted by: annie | Dec 22 2007 10:14 utc | 14

That they had a vibrant, joyful everyday culture, and will have it again. That behind the current bloodbath which is not native to Iraq but is the only thing the media wants us to focus on, the Iraqi people have so much to share with a peaceable world.
yesterday i finally met an iraqi friend/blogger i have known for a long long time. the song made me think of him, again. we talked for hours. i ask him.. what about your country do you love the most, and he answered ‘rejuvenation, we always come back’.
happy eid.

Posted by: annie | Dec 22 2007 10:24 utc | 15

The USA has to show some limited local successes so they can pull out without looking like they have cut and run. It’s a textbook tactic: launch limited local counterattacks to cover a general withdrawl.
I remember all those proud, glowing reports on how many schools and hospitals the US forces were rebuilding after the occupation started.
They seemed to gloss over the question of how many of them were abandoned or desotroyed as the result of the war and embargo that proceeded it.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Dec 22 2007 14:07 utc | 16

uau, the trend of the darkness…
…this really scares the shit out of me, brou
i think i better join my fellow humans and buy myself some candles and thick cloth
‘force, amité et tendresse’ would be fuerza, amistad y ternura, rgiap?
and, well, a nice solstice fests to ya all, MoA family!

Posted by: rudolf | Dec 22 2007 16:18 utc | 17

ups, forgot:
and long live to iraqui culture and land, to those brave and fateful brothers and sisters

Posted by: rudolf | Dec 22 2007 16:22 utc | 18

& this post being about eden
i am not surprised then that mr sarkozy has called out today for more believers. he says france wants more believers, ‘croyants’
faith is the rotting corpse of ideas turned naturally into evangilism. here he is the real heritier of le pen. absolutes. he does not understand that the enlightenment was in its way the beautiful destroyer of absolutes
in an epoch as dark as ours it is the last thing we need
the sickly & syphlitic belief of a tony blair, a george bush or even a kevin rudd are built . their putrid puritanism is nothing other than criminality carved in clay. as the divine marquis de sade suggested – that kinf of faith mask the real & brutal evil that anhilates destinies
paranthetically, in saul friedlanders new magisterial work – he makes ot more than clear – thaty no community of faith oppossed in either ideas or practice – the extermination of european jewry. not one. & it could be argued that pope pius was a more than willing participant watching the jews of rome led to their death from his fucking window
no the faith that sarkozy wants is the faith of pius – politically accomadating.
buddhism, taoism – are ways of thinking that require rigor. even shinto tho it may require repitition upon repition – also requires a rigour of spirit, of body & mind
monotheism has always required morons. & the more it is like a sect – the more it requires morons. or when it chooses to creates elites – like opus dei for example – then it transforms into a practical malevolance. it is no surprise then that the officers who were the stars of the school of americas were also member of opus dei & were the very persons who manipulated armed forces to kill priests nuns & lay workers who had sided with the poor
in our destroyed & depraved culture – perhaps the only thing we really own are our instincts – & it is these instincts that lead us to knowledge or more importantly to wonder. it is instinct & only instinct that understands what grace means concretely
i have a friend here – a son of a family of southern baptist preachers who as a unit possess cauldrons of cruelty. my friend is a musician – who plays in the appalachian tradition & has lived in france for over a decade. he has brothers who are pastors & a family that promises eternal damnantion with every correspondance. his is the hardes path – it is a path i imagine instinctively is moved by great good as it must be in those circumstances where evil dresses itself up in the finery of faith. he has to build his belief – brick by brick – as it should be & it must always be contextualised by a necessarily contradictory humanity
it is the people & will always be the people who are eden, eden ,eden. no matter how corrupted they become – they have become completely corrupted in the west – they hold within them as wm blake saw the possibility of that eden
that eden can be seen on the faces of the poor taking hold of their destinies in latin america. literally look at their faces. they are eden
the aboriginal people wherever they are have possesses that always in a manner which would have made spinoza smile with his characteristic warmth
when i witness a blair or a rudd parade outside their criminal churches i want to burst out with the bile these bible bashers have built in this body with their banality. a banality borne in evil

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 22 2007 18:51 utc | 19

& their sentimentality is the superstucture of brutality
they weep over this or that defeat or success but to the crimes perpetrated day after day night after night – even in the midst of their cultures – they do nothing, absolutely nothing
the profoundly evil policies, practical policies of neo liberalism could not have been constructed without the complicity of the people
we then have two versions of another kind of faith – or belief – the people of latin america have clearly had enough – enough of the lies that promised them this & that but led always inextricably to the massacres of their sons & daughters – having had enough – they have developed a faith in themselves that seems able to construct wonder – bolivia, even under the circumstances of great menace seems capable of this. then there is the faith of those – of the good germans who drowned in their deities until katushya rockets were on the edge of their frontiers & from those frontiers faith developed – it was a faith found in the frottages of history’s embace
we in the west are in sense reliving that history – on the one side a faith that is concerned solely with building walls of security even against itself or a faith that is building bridges brick by brick – forcing a responsiblity – that the western individual especially ‘ those of faith’, have hitherto escaped

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 22 2007 19:10 utc | 20

& by what synchronicity i turn to cnn & they tell me blair converts to catholicism
the crude cha-cha of the faith(less)

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 22 2007 19:17 utc | 21

Tony Blair was always the perfect altar boy for High Priest GW Bush, holding the candles aloft, chanting responses at the appropriate moment and then going back to finish of the rest of the sacramental wine…

Posted by: ralphieboy | Dec 22 2007 19:44 utc | 22

Thank you Alamet.

Posted by: beq | Dec 22 2007 19:54 utc | 23

rgiap “monotheism has always required morons.” probably but the thing which always struck me about monotheism is that it is the necessary belief system for greedheads and mainchancers, sociopaths. It is a truism to say there isn’t a far stretch from “One entity rules over the world” (always omnipotent, funny that) to “I am he. I rule over my domain, it is all mine”.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 22 2007 20:31 utc | 24

SecDef Gates Wheedles, “May I Have a Little More, Sir?”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7157017.stm
Notwithstanding that the GW3 was sold to US as a Pay-As-You-Go junket,
but now Iraq Council of Allah and their PSA Brethren of the Cross are
spiriting away $65.48 BILLION a year in oil profits, allegedly for that
war effort,
the $70.00 BILLION of our life savings that Congress has
already awarded to DoDSpendCo amounts to $538,500 per US combat person,
over and above $465 BILLION Congress gave DoD to prosecute our “defense”.
This all, when the average combat person only gets $24,000 a year in pay,
leaving a 95% balance for “other unspecified national security interests”.
That Charon’s share, of course, like the missing $65 BILLION Iraq War Fund,
are being profligately wasted on IDIQNB’s that continue even to this day,
enough of our blood and treasure to build a 50-foot high moat around Texas
and fill it to the brink with sparkling Oglalla mineral water!
The US Defense Procurement System is in fact so egregiously corrupt, it’s
just amazing our military personnel still support it! Thankfully, Congress
is telling Gates, “Sober up, buddy, you’ve had way more than enough.”

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-usas-m4-carbine-controversy-03289/#more
The USA’s M4 Carbine Controversy

Posted by: Pepper Andelweiss | Dec 22 2007 21:13 utc | 25

i don’t know why i posted on faith today. it was certainly b’s mention of eden but to then see this conversion of tony blair immediately after i wrote it – i simply cannot believe the breadth of their brutality, the power of their pornography
there is simply no bottom for them
no doubt the buffoon blair imagines himself a new crusader – with the job & salary to boot
no, there is no bottom in them. no bottom at all
we are falling forever with elites that are represented by tools like him

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 22 2007 21:52 utc | 26

Debs, maybe the connection between monotheism and mainchancers is found in the calvinist notion of “elect”. That those who do well (at amassing power) must have been “chosen” by god – even though they may or may not even acknowledge it themselves. A rather perfect religion for both the tyrannical mind and its willing slaves.

Posted by: anna missed | Dec 23 2007 0:16 utc | 27

there is really a wonderful riff on all this by john le carre in the book ‘perfect spy’ really wonderful mediations on the meanness attached to monotheism & especiall of that within the culture of capitalism

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 23 2007 1:00 utc | 28

@anna missed, there is certainly that connection of ‘elect’ ness which you describe.
Not only monotheistic cultures subscribe to individual ownership of property but it seems to me that the other cultures – say the Chinese ‘confuscionist’ style of society also ascribes a greater responsibility with ownership.
That is one can’t just ‘own’ something ad infinitum without continuing to ‘earn’ that ownership, unlike montheistic societies. Animist or polytheist also seem more inclined to demurr that ownership is an impermanent, transitory business.
@r’giap it good to see you kick the shit out of the bliar’s conversion, along with other facades claiming to be catholic left,if there was one single thing which enabled post war Australia to have genuine poverty more than any other thing, it would have been the way that the catholic church carved the left into impotency using Sanatamaria and Co’s “Democratic Labour Party”.
Anyone considering the catholic democrat running for amerikan prez next year would do well to study the lengths that the catholic church has urged faithful ‘leftist’ pols to go to to make sure the primacy of the church is never threatened.
If good catholics starved as a result, so be it, God would sort it all out later.
I’m not saying that there aren’t good catholic politicians i’m sure there are catholic pols who are as good as any other, but those catholic pols who have brought the catholic church hierarchy into the business of politics with them, should be avoided like the plague. That organisation, more than any other organisation, certainly more than any other religious organisation anywhere, has the most sophisticated, silver-tongued corrupters of ideals.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 23 2007 1:22 utc | 29

andreotti = a good catholic =american handmaiden =a good mafiosi= man of state

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 23 2007 1:24 utc | 30

& in any case the only faith the ruling class has ever understood is security

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 23 2007 1:27 utc | 31

Andreotti was a criminal, despicable man, but he never (AFAIK) claimed to be of the left. There have been plenty of good lefties who happen to be Catholics, but Catholic Lefties who see a place for the catholic church establishment in their governance, who do deals for endorsement from the pulpit are another whole thing as I said before, truly corrupt.
Here reports Archbishop though oft incorrectly referred to as ‘cardinal’ Mannix as:
He intervened in subsequent elections, allowing his auxiliary bishop to pronounce that no Catholic could vote in conscience for Labor, although in 1960 three of the four Federal Labor leaders including Calwell, a future papal knight, were Catholics.
At these times aside from the indigenous (about 1% of the population), the poorest in Australia were the descendents of irish convicts, and the later more willing migrants fleeing famine in ireland, plus increasing numbers of Italian migrants. That is the poor were virtually all catholic yet Mannix and co conspired to keep anyone who supported the changes Australia desperately needed out of power, lest it aid godless communism. Even though most of the wealthy who benefited from Mannix’s interference were Anglican (episcopalian) descendents of the english squatters, capitalists and ‘jacks’ (those sent to guard the convicts)

Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 23 2007 3:02 utc | 32

link to NYTimes
This is the sort of thing I was thinking about (post #6 of this thread).

Posted by: alabama | Dec 23 2007 5:23 utc | 33

@alabama – interesting NYT story you point to – it is obvious were this will be going:

Despite the government’s promises, hardly any Awakening members outside Anbar have actually been moved off the American payroll and into Iraqi government jobs.
Of the 43,000 new Awakening members in Baghdad Province, for example, only about 1,700, in the suburban community of Abu Ghraib, have gotten jobs in the Iraqi police.
Many of the rest have applied for police jobs but for now are financed entirely by the Americans. The Awakening members are paid about $300 a month — considerably less than the salaries of police officers or soldiers.
Meanwhile, the American military is planning to begin withdrawing units this summer.
“Once we get past the summer, we’re not going to have enough people on the ground to administer the contracts,” Colonel Stanton said. “So between the time we draw down and now, we have to find something else for these guys to do.”

Maybe the Saudis will pay these folks?
But the story also includes this para:

The Americans are haunted by the possibility that Iraq could go the way of Afghanistan, where Americans initially bought the loyalty of tribal leaders only to have some of them gravitate back to the Taliban when the money stopped.

Has anybody ever seen reports of this program in Afghanistan?

Posted by: b | Dec 23 2007 7:22 utc | 34

Pravda DC: All Iraqi Groups Blame U.S. Invasion for Discord, Study Shows

Iraqis of all sectarian and ethnic groups believe that the U.S. military invasion is the primary root of the violent differences among them, and see the departure of “occupying forces” as the key to national reconciliation, according to focus groups conducted for the U.S. military last month.

Pfaff’s comment:

This flat contradiction of what most Americans want to believe about the Iraq situation confirms what some of us have been saying from the start: the Iraqis want us to go home. Invasion and occupation are the primary causes of Iraq’s tragedy and violence, and if the U.S. will get out — as the Iraqis in these focus groups believe – the Iraqi people will be able to overcome its divisions and take charge of their own affairs.

Similarly, NATO is incapable of solving the problem in Afghanistan of the Taliban return. The Taliban are not foreign invaders sponsored from abroad. Whatever their extremist religious convictions, they are Afghans, members of the Pathans (or Pashtuns), the largest ethnic community inside Afghanistan and in the surrounding region. There has always been tension between them and the minority Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras, who all together make up less than 40% of the national community.

But what is this strategy meant to do? To eradicate all the fundamentalisms, if not all the fundamentalist Moslems? If the U.S. is going to wage a worldwide war against “insurgencies and terrorist networks” everywhere, then it has a big job ahead of it, and it is going to lose. That is a dead certainty. Be serious. Just count.
Nationalism – the defense of national and religious identity and national particularity, even in its extreme versions — is the most important force in the world. Anyone who goes uninvited into other countries to stamp out other people’s extremisms puts itself into the business of creating even more extremism, and this eventually will have profoundly destructive effect upon the United States itself, as well as on allies unwise enough to follow the U.S. into this Maelstrom.

Posted by: b | Dec 23 2007 16:14 utc | 35

I think Tony Blair does the anti-christ 666 omen thing, the NIE report on Iran must have prompted him to make a move. Fucking Charlatan.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Dec 23 2007 16:44 utc | 36

b: There was an Afghanistan Awakening, a bunch of warlords elevated at a time when warlords were needed, a bunch of $B’s disappeared down the rathole of baaksheesh,
then the warlords quietly deposed, easy money dried up as US withdrew to Kabul to
protect their ambassador pool, poppy money kept a Colombian-style GWOT going awhile,
but sure no $10B Bush publicly proclaimed, although now that the Chinese have their
nose under the tent with the Aynak copper mine, oh lordie, US:UK has got religion!!
All very sadly venal, that one US:UK soldier had to lose their life for this FUBAR.
If they had just gone in and done “The Right Stuff”, instead of Katrina’ing it up,
Afghanistan could be a free market bulwark between Iran and Pakistan dictatorships.
Judging from other “stans”, Chinese will make Afghanistan a slash-and-burn story,
then again, after BushCo-Fed get done, they’ll make America the fire-sale epilogue.
Sit down some time over the holiday and try to way-back Ano Deus 1984 in your mind.

Posted by: Peter Piper | Dec 23 2007 19:30 utc | 37

@Peter – thanks – I missed that somehow.
Now the “allies” seem to finance the Uzbek and other minority ethnic groups against the Pashtun (or Pathan) majority, i.e. the Talibans. A loosing position.

Posted by: b | Dec 23 2007 21:01 utc | 38

following Peter Piper – so xUS has toehold in Afghanistan, or parts thereof, while China buys up our country – it is the Goddamn Banks that control the show now afterall & they’ve successfully bankrupted themselves, but are so drunk on their own greed that bonuses went up 14% this yr….
How anyone can be so stupid as to buy up the warlords, then refuse to develop the country – relying on warlords terrorizing the masses, rather than worrying about the hearts & minds of the people…maybe that’s what the War on Terra Means – War o’ Terra – xUS Elites will terrorize the masses everywhere into subservience. Of course, that’s easier done in the West than in NoWomansLand, where they’re outsiders…

Posted by: jj | Dec 24 2007 6:43 utc | 39