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November 28, 2007
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Fucking idiots (or is it the plan?): NATO Airstrike Kills 14 Afghans
There were no NATO troops nearby – there had been no signs of Talibs in the area before. Just a fucking “intelligence” report and an unobserved night target … and 14 now dead sleeping roadworkers. Really scary stuff: Posted by: Bea | Nov 28 2007 21:44 utc | 2 So very off thread, but I just came away from a link Glenn Greewald gave for a Billmon post. Posted by: jawbone | Nov 28 2007 22:09 utc | 3 two strong editorials out of nigeria today supporting president yar’adua’s official public rejection of AFRICOM & on the day that a u.s. military delegation, led by AFRICOM’s deputy to the commander for military ops rear adm moeller, was headed to abuja for more bullshittin’
daily sun: The African Command initiative
Posted by: b real | Nov 28 2007 22:48 utc | 4 Towards the end of the sixth book of the Aeneid Anchises tells his son Aeneas about the greatness of Rome which is not that of casting beautiful statues or creating splendid poetry as the Greeks have done but that the greatness of Rome resides in establishing the rule of Law and under this rule of law “debellare superbos, parcere subiectis” that is annihilate those that resist and spare those that submit. There you have summarized in a famous verse the essence of Empire. But that attitude requires an enormous optimism about oneself and there is no better demonstration of the boundless optimism of the American people than the behavior of the stock market yesterday and today. Simply we cannot imagine that events may go wrong, that we have to pay our debts. All problems will be solved, according to market speculators, through more debt creation, actually free money. This boundless optimism is what sustains the American power. Posted by: jlcg | Nov 28 2007 23:17 utc | 5
Also see, DOJ attempts subpoena for list of 24,000 Amazon customers Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 29 2007 2:13 utc | 6 two on the cia’s memo to destabilize the venezuelan govt (w/ conflicting translations of the operation name)
james petras: CIA Venezuela Destabilization Memo Surfaces
doesn’t look like the original of the alleged memo is up anywhere yet, only the spanish translation Posted by: b real | Nov 29 2007 5:03 utc | 7 I’ve noticed that it never bodes well when US Presidential advisors and cabinet members start suddenly resigning their posts to “spend more time with their family”. Al Hubbard, chairman of the National Economic Council, is the latest rat to suddenly swim away with a flimsy pretense. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 29 2007 5:13 utc | 8 quick note that just maybe the u.s.-trained burundi peacekeepers are honestly headed for mogadishu to … do what exactly? stop the ethiopians from indiscriminately killing somalis? anyway, there was a very brief mention in the ugandan press that
they’ve been saying that they’re on the way for a couple months now, but then it turns out that they’re not ready yet, not equipped properly, not enough money, and so on, though who in their right minds would want to step into a situation like what is going on in occupied mogadishu currently, and then an article from monday sorta provides a context for how the u.s. finally convinced burundi to deploy some forces.
gotta hurry up & get them there before they start reading up on what they’re getting themselves into 😉 Posted by: b real | Nov 29 2007 5:34 utc | 9 LA Times on Perle, Ghadry and Fakhravar(!) …
bea (all MoA’s), watch this: video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279 Posted by: Schmellow Yellow | Nov 29 2007 7:43 utc | 11 William Lind offers some pure conjecture Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Nov 29 2007 7:59 utc | 12 There was an odd news item on the Danish Radio this morning: Posted by: Chuck Cliff | Nov 29 2007 9:06 utc | 13 Iraqi lawmakers protest U.S. guards
Hmm – the Kurds went away … As we document the details of the US, and of course in my case Canada, and the UK, AUS, other ‘free’ countries’ vector towards the police state, I must say this. Posted by: jonku | Nov 29 2007 10:07 utc | 15 For you economy watchers…Subprime.
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 29 2007 16:17 utc | 16 a couple of updates re AFRICOM
and in #4 i mentioned that an AFRICOM delegation was headed to abuja, nigeria for “more bullshittin'”. well, here’s the verification
hah. imagine the nigerian military setting & then talking about their goals for a “better” usa.
also, the CJTF-HOA is comfortably positioned at a bottleneck in the red sea Posted by: b real | Nov 29 2007 16:32 utc | 17 @Uncle – wonderful British comedy McClatchey: U.S. sponsorship of Sunni groups worries Iraq’s government
The U.S. wants 100,000 of these “concerned (sunni) citizens”. The costs is $300 per month per head so it’s relative cheap. #17 quote:
Its nice that on occasion they come right out and define the real overall foreign policy objective of the U.S.A. If it were possible to be more literal here, they would have said Posted by: anna missed | Nov 29 2007 19:56 utc | 20 nice, a.m., it’s good to spell it out from time to time. Posted by: citizen | Nov 29 2007 22:00 utc | 21 Just lurking, Posted by: jdp | Nov 30 2007 0:07 utc | 24 After watching r’giap’s #23 and reading Ghost’s #22 I have to ask, Are We Sane? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 30 2007 0:32 utc | 25 @ r’giap 23 – I used to see a bumper sticker on a car in my neighborhood that said: “Lord Please Save Me From Your Followers” Posted by: beq | Nov 30 2007 1:21 utc | 26 the worrying news of today amongst a multitude of others- is the very clear attempts to destabilise both bolivia & venezuela. these attempts at destabilisation are happening on a whole lot of levels with the complete complicity, as is its habitude – of the media(s) Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 30 2007 1:42 utc | 27 THE TREASURY’S MISSING MINUTES
Yes,jdp but that will never happen, ever try an intervention on a addict? My experience is, they get worse. I also find it interesting that a known alcoholic dry drunk runs the country, and that, as Robert Parry says, The Bush Family Gets Away with Crimes That Would Land Anyone Else in Jail. Anne Wilson Schaef wrote about these things two decades ago…THE ADDICTIVE ORGANIZATION,
and particularly, in When Society Becomes an Addict, and more recent synopsis in The Paradigm Conspiracy: Why Our Social Systems Violate Human Potential. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 30 2007 1:51 utc | 28 Well Uncle, Posted by: jdp | Nov 30 2007 2:26 utc | 29 Psychopathic Bosses Get Promoted
Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 30 2007 3:08 utc | 30 time magazine keeps up its reputation as a reliable state propaganda/disinfo outlet w/ a new story on somalia, the horn of africa, & islamic terrorists — Remember Somalia? Posted by: b real | Nov 30 2007 3:25 utc | 31 Some desperately needed Fun & Hopeful Stuff. Posted by: jj | Nov 30 2007 3:28 utc | 32 @jj #32: Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | Nov 30 2007 4:05 utc | 33 Dr. Well – he disappeared? Are you serious? Can you tell us more? Posted by: jj | Nov 30 2007 4:33 utc | 34 jj: Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | Nov 30 2007 5:43 utc | 35 Evolution Debate Led to Ouster, Official Says
Next: Everybody how denies the flatness of the planet will be incarcerated. jdp, Posted by: anna missed | Nov 30 2007 8:08 utc | 37 Nice rant by Craig Murray:
An interesting cold-warrior op-ed by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Annals of dumb headlines: via chris floyd, here’s a cogent interview w/ scott ritter Posted by: b real | Nov 30 2007 16:05 utc | 42 After watching r’giap’s #23 and reading Ghost’s #22 I have to ask, Are We Sane? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 30 2007 23:37 utc | 44 Alan: Well, last week we showed you how to become a gynaecologist. And this week on ‘How to do it’ we’re going to show you how to play the flute, how to split an atom, how to construct a box girder bridge, how to irrigate the Sahara Desert and make vast new areas of land cultivatable, but first, here’s Jackie to tell you all how to rid the world of all known diseases. Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 1 2007 0:45 utc | 45 to go along w/ the focus on aids & the int’l aids/hiv conference in accra, ghana, two editorials from that nation’s public agenda that illustrate another POV, shaped, no doubt, by historical memory.
The West Must Own Up On HIV/AIDS
Posted by: b real | Dec 1 2007 4:18 utc | 46 Confirming Bernhards long held suspicion that drug use in Iraq by U.S. soldiers is problematic and covered up:
Posted by: anna missed | Dec 1 2007 6:20 utc | 47 And some more HERE on who the drug pusher might be. Posted by: anna missed | Dec 1 2007 6:24 utc | 48 I have been avoiding any ‘news’ of the ‘peace process’ especially Annapolis as much as possible since once should never intentionally cause apoplexy brought on by frustration at selfish instransigence, but I couldn’t help but notice: Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 1 2007 6:44 utc | 49 The always interesting China Matters blog offers an interesting discussion on Beating a (Kitty) Hawk in the Water, and further down further analysis on the on-going ballet Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 1 2007 8:25 utc | 50 Jordan’s Spy Agency: Holding Cell for the CIA Foreign Terror Suspects Tell of Torture
The really significant & encouraging part of b-‘s, post above (#51) is that WaPo is reporting it. That suggests to me that the elites are tacking, or preparing to do so, otherwise they’d continue to cover this up. Agreement/disagreement? Posted by: jj | Dec 1 2007 11:05 utc | 52 Rogue “Defense” Mercenaries Holding 200,000 American Citizens Hostage!!! Posted by: Pil Firage | Dec 1 2007 22:37 utc | 54 For those of you who feast on military analysis, I have a question to ponder over the weekend. Posted by: jj | Dec 1 2007 23:31 utc | 55 jj Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 1 2007 23:45 utc | 56 jj-55- Does anyone know if the Chinese Navy (etc?) is ready now to retake Taiwan? My thinking is this – is China ready militarily to say to xUS – you attack Iran? Ok, but while you’re thusly pre-occupied we’ll take back Taiwan? Obviously, they’re planning for the day that they will have the military to do so, but has that day arrived? I’ve just read & heard that Chinese military exercises “were massive”.
@46, Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 2 2007 14:38 utc | 58 has any of such weapons ever been used ?
Interesting NYT piece about Malawi – Ending Famine, Simply by Ignoring the Experts
trying to make some sense out of sunday’s coverage on the newly-announced somali cabinet
but garowe online, a reliable somali news service, reports that actually there are not many new faces.
the reuters’ piece named one other outside nominee, deputy planning minister muse, who, based on the last name, probably hails from president yusuf’s darod clan outta puntland.
however, as the garowe piece makes clear, “Adde’s Cabinet … still needs to be approved by the Somali parliament”. reuters got this correct too, pointing out that
surprisingly, the reuters’ article also correctly states that the previous PM, gedi, was fired, and did not leave of his own free will as most other wire services parrot
also noteworthy in the reuters article is a number of casualties in somalia this year since the u.s. & ethiopia set off this tragic chain of events.
one 2006 estimate put the population of mogadishu around 1,700,000, which would mean that roughly half of the city’s inhabitants have been displaced this year alone. Posted by: b real | Dec 3 2007 4:35 utc | 62 adding to #62, i meant to also point out that not only is the AFP article incorrect in stating that the new cabinet was “sworn in at the Villa Somalia presidential palace in Mogadishu,” but, as the bylines show on the other article, the announcement took place in baidoa, the “alternative” seat of the TFG — since the capital is so hot & unwelcoming of the transitional govt — and not in mogadishu. Posted by: b real | Dec 3 2007 4:43 utc | 63 It seems that Chavez has lost the referendum, and has accepted the defeat Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 3 2007 7:12 utc | 64 Here’s a link for the result of the referenda in Venezuela. I’d be interested in a more detailed analysis of the two referenda, the “presidential” part and the “parliamentary” part. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 3 2007 7:19 utc | 65 When ever I look forward to a night of insomnia, I make sure to read Kunstler just to make sure. Posted by: anna missed | Dec 3 2007 9:06 utc | 66 I’ve long said that any idiot can shove a hook into a fish’s mouth but an artist will convince the fish to do it themselves. Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 3 2007 15:18 utc | 67 I’ve never set foot in Pakistan, speak none of the local Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 3 2007 16:01 utc | 68 CNN mistake or CIA PsyOps ? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 3 2007 16:03 utc | 69 thanks monolycus- exactly what i was looking for last week after rcv’g an invite Posted by: b real | Dec 3 2007 16:04 utc | 70 @ Monolycus, breal, and Uncle $scam: Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 3 2007 16:25 utc | 71 This is a sucker: U.S. Says Iran Ended Atomic Arms Work
The IAEA has not found any real hint that Iran had, has or will have a nuke program. The Intelligence agencies are simply backpaddling here, the had “high confidence in 2005 and now say they are wrong. But this way Bush can keep up the pressure on Iran because “they only stopped”. now the putchist opposition are obliged to respect all parts of the bolivarian constitution . it’s win win for chavez but i would be arming the people just in case Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 3 2007 18:44 utc | 73 update on #62 wrt the cabinet announcement in mogadishu
if the cabinet is essentially the same, which garowe is reporting to be the case, how could one expect anything else? Posted by: b real | Dec 3 2007 19:08 utc | 74 ‘they have been using us for experiments’ (Gitmo)
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 3 2007 23:22 utc | 75 Senate Aide In Kiddie Sex Bust
And a Democrat no less.
Oh, and has anyone heard anything about the Mark Foley scandal? Another one that just went away… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 4 2007 3:32 utc | 76 some bits ‘n pieces from the press today wrt the u.s. in africa
i’m not able to find any evidence that ethiopia has signed a SOFA w/ the u.s. up to this point, which is one of the prereq’s from what i’ve gathered, and it has no seaport or coastline (yet), but prime minister meles is definitely uncle sam’s favorite authoritarian mass murderer of the moment in africa & the military reports have mentioned u.s. interest in establishing a parallel network of their own based on the AU hub-spokes setup.
or today in mogadishu, ethiopian troops were shelling a children’s hospital
pretty serious stuff, eh? and that’s not even broaching the subject of meles’ treatment of the political opposition or control over the media & internet, making ethiopia one of the worst offenders of the concept of free speech & press freedoms on the planet.
that’s why the u.s. official position so far is that the ONLF is not a terrorist organization & does not go on the list of international terrorist organizations, despite meles’ persistent cries otherwise. we’ll have to see how long that position holds out. the western media has been slowly ratcheting up the “AQ in the horn” stories over the past couple weeks now, typically citing ‘unnamed’ official sources.
student’s of imperial history will no doubt see the irony in this 21st century update/advance of livingstone’s 3 c’s which set off first scramble for africa. Posted by: b real | Dec 4 2007 6:37 utc | 77 @b-real – this is an interesting – WaPo: U.S. Debating Shift of Support in Somali Conflict
@b 78 Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 4 2007 8:42 utc | 79 Iraqis in Syria face food shortages
Look whose holding hands now…a picture is worth a 1000 words. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 4 2007 9:53 utc | 81 Peace Now: IDF carried out only 3% of settlement demolition orders
b @78 – that is interesting
or maybe all this talk is designed to provide the u.s. more leverage over meles. or yusuf. or both. Posted by: b real | Dec 4 2007 16:26 utc | 83 @ b – as always you really connect the dots and have offered some of the best posts regarding Africom and the conflicts in the Horn. Posted by: BenIAM | Dec 4 2007 16:40 utc | 84 file this under my first item in #83 above
Posted by: b real | Dec 4 2007 16:42 utc | 85 @ b real Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 4 2007 17:01 utc | 86 hkol – actually, i’m just coming up to speed on the area. berbera is in somaliland, though; puntland’s main port is bosaso. benIAM mentioned the israeli-eritrean connection previously but i haven’t had time to explore it. Posted by: b real | Dec 4 2007 18:05 utc | 87 b real, et al… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 4 2007 18:07 utc | 88 uncle – never heard of the former; the latter i’ve seen occassionally, as it picks up a lot of stuff from the blog’osphere but i’ve rarely found much there that helps me in my research (found more in gv-latin america than africa) & haven’t parsed it close enough to discern any specific agenda. no time to explore afrigator now. is there a reason to be skeptical? Posted by: b real | Dec 4 2007 18:25 utc | 89 another mention in the news today lends more reason for an earlier speculation that the spin on the story about somali “pirates” apprehending the japanese chemical tanker may be offbase.
the seafarer’s assistance program lists one of the groups associated w/ piracy off somalia’s coasts as
see my original link for some rpts on toxic waste dumping off the coasts of somalia.
is yusuf out now too? Posted by: b real | Dec 4 2007 19:56 utc | 90 Gentrification by any other name…
Palfrey’s escort service user David Vitter (R-La.) likes to fuck people. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 4 2007 21:10 utc | 91
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 4 2007 21:48 utc | 92 Grrrr… disregard the above #92 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 4 2007 21:58 utc | 93 @77, Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 5 2007 2:08 utc | 94 @94
Posted by: b real | Dec 5 2007 3:45 utc | 95 Gitmo prisoner slashes his throat with sharpened fingernail
Jesus fucking Christ, how desperately hopeless do you have to be to cut your own throat with your own nails? God, I would offer my life to see this criminal crew rot behind bars at the Hague. I almost said ‘shot’, at the Hague but, I’m A)against the death penalty and B)don’t want them to get out that easy, I want to see them while away their remaining days in a cell. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 5 2007 5:22 utc | 96 Haynes said he doubted the latest incident was a real suicide attempt, and characterized it instead as an act of “self-harm.”…….Haynes said there have been up to half-dozen “self-harm incidents” in the two months Posted by: annie | Dec 5 2007 5:43 utc | 97 adding to Uncle – 96
Somalia: – Somali President Hospitalized in Nairobi
RE#96 98, Posted by: anna missed | Dec 5 2007 9:43 utc | 100 |
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