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November 7, 2007
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You know for sure that the economy is in deep, deep dodo when the propaganda folks for unregulated capitalism tell you that it is indeed the very best thing that ever happened: Badger writes: More birth-pangs expected
Is this supposed to impress me? I assume so. The Drudge Report has a link to it also. Posted by: Rick | Nov 7 2007 11:22 utc | 3 Oil and Drug Cartel Behind WWII Nuremberg Records Reveal
An open letter by Dr. Rath (pdf) Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 7 2007 12:14 utc | 4 @Uncle$cam – I doubt the U.S. media will emphazise this: Iran: We have 3,000 centrifuges working at enrichment plant
Homeland Security Is Googling You
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 7 2007 13:24 utc | 7 Hmmm …
Translated – they kept “tax profits” on the books even though they knew the would never realize them. Now the mortgage crisis hit GMAC and there was no longer any chance to keep these “profits” in the books. Hence they had to reveal them now.
Guess who. Regarding H. Res. 799 (Some of you care)…
Followed by, Debate on Cheney impeachment averted.
Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 7 2007 13:59 utc | 10 Last two paragraphs in post 10 are mine… as if it needs stating. Forgot to close a blockquote tag. Mea culpa. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 7 2007 14:00 utc | 11 @ Monolycus, anyone, where do you find who voted how? Posted by: beq | Nov 7 2007 17:03 utc | 12 @uncle #4, b #5, it’s deliberately hard to tell what businessmen plan until after they’ve done it, then asking “Cui bono?” becomes useful. Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 7 2007 17:29 utc | 14 sorry, #14 was me. (pretty obviously, as I’ve seen no one anywhere stressing ice sliding rather than stressing melting) Posted by: plushtown | Nov 7 2007 17:32 utc | 15 The simplest explanation of the present day problems and the explanation that unifies the troubles rests on the impossibility of profit. Because profit cannot be realised in the long term, businessmen have to resort to all sorts of tricks to delay and spin the fact. From selling beads to the natives to selling ARM to the financially innocent there is a unity of behavior, a behavior that eventually requires imperialism, wars, conquests, subjugations, enslavements, massacres, famines and the rest. Add to this the relentless impoverishment of the Earth together with irredentists territorial claims and you have the witches’ brew in the present historical moment. What will happen nobody knows but a few million dead, many states ruined, rich cities despoiled, are probably in the near future. Posted by: jlcg | Nov 7 2007 17:56 utc | 16 can anyone comment about what’s going with the dollar? i read this nyt article and man things do not seem too rosy when the chinese look to “diversify” (meaning they’re going to dump some dollars, right?). what does “they’re looking” means? does it mean that they’re thinking about it and haven’t made up their minds? if so are they looking to get reassurance from the us gov’t? why would they trust the us gov’t? is it a shot over the bow, a warning? Posted by: charmicarmicat | Nov 7 2007 18:03 utc | 17 @Plushtown, ice sliding into the sea has been fairly widely discussed. Might be some pieces on Independent website. It always scares me, as I fear that some private water concerns might pipe up & say, hell, we could save our cities if we carted off the ice & converted it to water for our reservoirs…it’s too valuable to let it merely disappear into the oceans… Posted by: jj | Nov 7 2007 19:09 utc | 18 Oops – “discussing” should obviously be discovering in 2nd graph above. Posted by: jj | Nov 7 2007 19:11 utc | 19 This last weekend we got the news that Antioch College was staying open. This was fantastic news for a few seconds, but there was some bizarre kind of shift. the week before, we’d had hundreds of people sitting and waiting expectantly, ready to celebrate. Then they delayed the decision a week, and we got paranoid. Deservingly so, of course. Corporate negotiations have a way of being letdowns. Hardly a revolution, but there’s still time for that, I suppose. Posted by: Rowan | Nov 7 2007 19:24 utc | 20 @charmicarmicat – I hope to have something up tomorrow on the $ and other economic issues too. No one stresses it that I’ve seen, would love links.And mostly they talk about glaciers sliding faster (especially now that Ross ice shelf no longer constrains WestAntarctic glaciers) but don’t speculate about how fast they’d go if major earthquakes occurred under them. And most attention is give to melting, especially sea ice melting.
aside from all the hell on earth for citizens & all that, there’s some good news for the u.s. today in somalia
Posted by: b real | Nov 7 2007 20:37 utc | 23 the press conference of sarkozy & bush. what a melange of madness & pomposity. all their tics, their vulgar words & their misconceived notions of history Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 7 2007 20:45 utc | 24 Just saw this, not sure if anyone has mentioned it on here yet:
Posted by: Bea | Nov 7 2007 21:01 utc | 25 More than 1,000 Severely Ill Patients in Gaza Who Require Urgent Care Abroad Are Simply Left to Die
Posted by: Bea | Nov 7 2007 21:08 utc | 26 sorry my #22 was response to jj #18. I lost it before posting, redid too hastily. Posted by: plushtown | Nov 7 2007 21:31 utc | 27 Thugs, gangbangers, methheads, morons: Uncle Sam needs more IED fodder and he’s getting less choosy by the day. Posted by: ran | Nov 7 2007 22:28 utc | 28 China Matters has an important post about the goings on in Pakistan that bring China into the picture. Highly recommended. Posted by: Dick Durata | Nov 7 2007 23:21 utc | 29 b, Posted by: Juannie | Nov 7 2007 23:46 utc | 30 @ Chemmett (13) – Thanks, I didn’t know where to look. Posted by: beq | Nov 8 2007 0:43 utc | 31 B and all, Posted by: Rick | Nov 8 2007 1:07 utc | 32 @Juannie
I may have misunderstood, of course. Posted by: argh | Nov 8 2007 2:29 utc | 33 Don’t be disheartened as you digest post’s like Uncle’s at #7 on Homeland Security data mining or the Mukasey confirmation thread or even this tidbit about former AT&T employee Mark Klein:
amerikans should rejoice their congress does care about privacy. This WaPo article details the Congressional enquiry into Yahoo’s decision to comply with Chinese law by telling officials from the republic details of Shi Tao’s email and other internet activities. Posted by: Debs is dead | Nov 8 2007 4:04 utc | 34 xUS is threatening Iran to threaten China’s energy supplies, while China holds the bucks & is threatening dollar status as reserve currency: Posted by: jj | Nov 8 2007 5:38 utc | 35 Rick @ #32 Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 8 2007 5:43 utc | 36 World War II 60M dead Treblinka War Tribunals Cold War Diary of Anne Frank Israel Holocaust(TM) Sputnik Moshe Dayan Shindler’s List 60 Years Pass Archives Unveiled Posted by: Peter Callander | Nov 8 2007 5:52 utc | 37 @Peter Callender I realise you are probably trying to make an important point but once I got over the grief of your link I have to ask whether you has permission of the subject to spread his/her image in agony across the net. Posted by: Debs is dead | Nov 8 2007 6:32 utc | 38 @Juannie – @Dick Durata – thanks for the China Matters link. Quite an eyeopener. I agree, China is more important to Musharraf than the US. And the U.S. is now trying to get the Pakistani military to coup against Musharraf.
Ok – that last bit tells the strategy. Bhutto, the choosen thug of the White House, will try to instill enough “sustained popular unrest” to get the army moving against Musharraf. A nice plan, but I don’t think they have fully made the calculation here. Musharraf still can go to all out martial law and kick Bhutto out or arrest her. What can the US do about it? Nothing. The wisdom of the Decider in Chief:
How Blackwater Sniper Fire Felled 3 Iraqi Guards
The sniper fire “felled” the Iraqis? Why doesn’t wapo call murder murder? Thanks to Dick Durata at #29 for posting what I was about to post before checking to see if it had already been noted. I might point out that one of the links at China Matters is interesting in its own right, although much of its substance is contained in the China Matters link. By the way, scrolling down in DD’s link one finds a surprising reading of the moving forces behind the Army-McCarthy hearings in the early 50’s, the time when my political consciousness first began to (de)form. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Nov 8 2007 11:04 utc | 44 Monolycus, Posted by: Rick | Nov 8 2007 11:37 utc | 45 Very glad to come across the China Matters link (at 29, 40). Thanks to DD and MoA. Posted by: Hamburger | Nov 8 2007 13:40 utc | 46 Defense Minister Barak says long-term Gaza invasion is approaching
If the IDF is in Gaza, the settlers will again follow. Ordinarily U.S. congressional rhetoric only gives me stomach pains, but Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Nov 8 2007 15:12 utc | 48 Israel flouts pledge to curb settlements
thanks for the complement, rick, though no one individual’s contributions (other than those of the proprietor, of course) need be singled out in a community beyond that of its normal transitory contextual nature, imo Posted by: b real | Nov 8 2007 16:54 utc | 50
does anyone know the name of that documentary from the coup w/the fake gunman shooting on the crowd? got link? Posted by: annie | Nov 8 2007 17:33 utc | 51 @annie – THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED Interesting story on telecom cooperation with NSA wiretapping and internet syping, here.
(Apologies if this article has already been posted on this board, but the article seemed to deserve the widest possible distribution.) Posted by: heatkernel | Nov 8 2007 18:29 utc | 53 Oh, I see this very same article was posted linking directly to the WaPost earlier in this thread…whoops. Posted by: heatkernel | Nov 8 2007 18:37 utc | 54 Seems that worldwide economic panic is setting in. On days like this, it’s a good idea to keep an eye on iht.com – they’re featuring several articles on situation. I’m late, but would any barflies who monitor WSJ/FT/NYT let us know if there’s any discussion there of Sarkozy’s WashDC remarks & undoubtedly the purpose of his visit? Thanks. Here’s from right-wing Brit. Press: Posted by: jj | Nov 8 2007 19:22 utc | 55 quick rundown on the news outta mogadishu today
warning — the above link has pix of that dead ethiopian soldier being dragged thru the streets
it’s unfortunate that such detail isn’t provided when it’s somali children and defenseless citizens being shot & beaten by the ethiopian forces w/ impunity. or when some of the residents are brave enough to come out and protest that occupation & violence.
the TFG was brought in from exile in london(?) shortly before the u.s. & ethiopia invaded somalia to drive the islamic courts union out of mogadishu & southern somalia. the militia was only one small component of the ICU, which had broad support throughout the country, which is 99% muslim.
African Union military transport plane lands in Mogadishu
they’ve been promising that the burundi peacekeepers were on their way all summer. maybe something’s happening. the ugandans, however, are largely confined to security around the port, according to news stories. when there’s not fighting going on — very infrequent, that — they assist in cleaning up trash, delivering food & water, etc. Posted by: b real | Nov 8 2007 20:08 utc | 56 I promissed to write on the US$ today but didn’t make it. Maybe tomorrow. Meanwhile Froomkin looks at Bush’s Disastrous Dollar Policy Yahoo News tonite: Posted by: Cloned Poster | Nov 8 2007 22:01 utc | 58 b-, et al. I heard today that @recent G-7 Summit Europe said they’d bail out the dollar if xUS got out of Iraq & canned the Empire. xUS refused. Do you, or anyone else, know anything about this? Posted by: jj | Nov 9 2007 0:08 utc | 60 Cleveland, Ohio has one of the highest rates of foreclosure in the country. According to a study by Case Western Reserve U. Deutsche Bank owns Cleveland. Who knew? Posted by: jj | Nov 9 2007 0:28 utc | 61 Update on Bush’s veto record: Senate overrides Bush water projects veto.
Don’t get me wrong here, I’m glad this veto was not sustained and that some members of Congress finally seemed to have brushed up on their high school civics lessons and realized that the executive branch is not a unitary entity. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 9 2007 4:17 utc | 62 interesting bit on somali (technically not) “pirates” buried in the last sentence of a reuters article today
which brings to mind these stories from 2005
(see, for instance, CASE NAME Somalia Waste Imports from Italy)
Posted by: b real | Nov 9 2007 4:18 utc | 63 should also point out that the initial link in my #63 above, the reuters article, was on the japanese chemical tanker the golden nori & how the hijackers issued demands to japan’s govt to secure release. reportedly, “the cargo of the Golden Nori consists of four different chemicals, including highly flammable benzene” [source] Posted by: b real | Nov 9 2007 4:42 utc | 64 Mukasey confirmed in the Senate 53-40 and a fitting zionfaschist qoute from Dershowitz
If it worked for the SS, Dems should take care that we use it too. this cartoon says it all especially when taken in conjunction with this article:
These sanctions appear to be on top of those pushed through the UN Security Council. Since China and Russia baulked last time CheneyCo wanted to get tough, it is difficult to understand how they can be legal. Posted by: Debs is dead | Nov 9 2007 6:15 utc | 66 Juan Cole links to one of the latest bits of good news from Iraq. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Nov 9 2007 11:49 utc | 67 This is your Freedom under Corporatism: Posted by: Rick | Nov 9 2007 11:56 utc | 68 Exhibit 896,532 in the matter of US goons in uniform are free to “liberate” Iraqis from this mortal coil with impunity. Posted by: ran | Nov 9 2007 14:18 utc | 69 Worthless sycophantic tool yet highly compensated NY Times reporter Elisabeth Bumiller presented the WimbleHack top honors by Taibbi. Posted by: ran | Nov 9 2007 15:05 utc | 70 reuters: Families search for those lost in “African Guantanamo”
Posted by: b real | Nov 9 2007 16:00 utc | 71 improved coverage from AFP today on events in mogadishu than the one i pointed out yesterday in #56
daniel volman analyzes Africom: The new US military command for Africa
Posted by: b real | Nov 9 2007 16:14 utc | 72 from democracynow’s friday interview w/ dennis kucinich>
he mentioned it in at least one other interview during the morning as well, pointed out on the democraticunderground site
Posted by: b real | Nov 9 2007 17:37 utc | 73 interesting development in Georgia where apparent government forces trashed a teevee station run by Murdoch. Rupert is pissed….who would dare cross him?
Posted by: dan of steele | Nov 9 2007 19:19 utc | 74 empire’s outposts needing better accomodations/ bigger living rooms
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Somalia president visiting Kenya, Ethiopian shelling kills 11 civilians
most likely he got out of town as it really started lighting up but it could also be a meeting w/ u.s. officials in kenya to solidify the PM slot in an effort to create the hope of some stability. Posted by: b real | Nov 9 2007 20:44 utc | 75 it’s been ugly in mogadishu the past couple days
opinion: Ethiopia – Fire power in Mogadishu as a warning to all oppositions
some pix of the dead (who, by appearances, don’t look like fighters) in the streets in this shabelle media article that i linked to earlier today.
granted, that interview is from 3 days ago, before this latest round of ultra-violence, but frazer is very well aware of what the u.s.-backed ethiopian & TFG forces have been doing in mogadishu all year. what has happened in the past two days is not new. we have carried links here covering the slaughters going on inside mogadishu back during the heaviest fighting in march & april — also see the human right’s watch rpt Shell-Shocked: Civilians Under Siege in Mogadishu — as well as the ongoing attacks by the occupying forces, shooting, shelling, & brutalizing civilians indiscriminately. so frazer is more than just complicit, but we know that – it was largely on her encouragement, as the highest ranking state official on africa affairs, that ethiopia took on this role as proxy.
as garowe online, a somalian media outlet, reported the other day (linked in #23 above),
and as i suggested in #75, president yusuf was meeting w/ frazer today according to the photo in this news story (not avail in english)
sounds more like AFRICOMs HQ will be in addis ababa, barring protestation of u.s. backing/support of a murderous dictator, that is. Posted by: b real | Nov 10 2007 5:59 utc | 76 @76 Posted by: jony_b_cool | Nov 10 2007 7:56 utc | 77 That explains a bit of Foreign Policy failure. How can you run a huge shop without using email?
Human Rights Organizations Petition Israeli High Court Over Israel’s Fuel and Power Cuts to Gaza.
More good links to peruse at this one. Posted by: Bea | Nov 10 2007 13:04 utc | 80 Gaza’s Reflection in a Foul Threat — The End Result of Israel’s and the World’s Policy on Gaza
Life on the ground as a metaphor for political reality. Posted by: Bea | Nov 10 2007 13:10 utc | 81 More details on what happened in Nahr al-Bared, and how the world is being kept from knowing about it. Nahr al-Bared was Destroyed, but Who Noticed? Posted by: Bea | Nov 10 2007 18:17 utc | 82 http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/922371.html“> Israel’s Plan to Seek More Holocaust Reparations Outrages Germany
Well if this is the line of argument, then I’m sure the Palestinian government will be presenting a very stiff bill to Israel in due time. For example, take the entire destruction of Nahr al-Bared. Isn’t is Israel’s responsibility that the refugees were there, without any government to provide for or insure them, in the first place? Posted by: Bea | Nov 10 2007 18:23 utc | 83 Israel’s Plan to Seek More Holocaust Reparations Outrages Germany Posted by: Bea | Nov 10 2007 18:24 utc | 84 the government had spent some $3.5 billion on the survivors, more than four times the sum transferred by Germany. The UN puppet on Somalia – not sure what he is actually saying:
Coalition of the willing??? Huh???? new this day Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 10 2007 21:10 utc | 87 quick look at some of the stories out of mogadishu on saturday
that’s funny, b/c just less than two weeks ago dheere was quoted asking civilians to stay put. for instance, see
he was also quoted requesting citizens to stay put in multiple NGO releases that week, after another mass exodus had already begun.
back to saturday
the bottom-most picture appears to be one of the soldiers whose body had been dragged thru the streets on friday.
Posted by: b real | Nov 11 2007 6:48 utc | 88 |
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