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Reprocessing Air in A Vacuum
The propaganda campaign against Iran is reaching a new state. It is marked by the use of obvious outright lies instead of just murky assertions. According to AFP, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino today said about Iran:
"This is a country that is enriching and reprocessing uranium and the reason that one does that is to lead towards a nuclear weapon"
There are two easy provable lies in these few words:
Reprocessing Uranium:
Nuclear reprocessing separates any usable elements (e.g., uranium and plutonium) from fission products and other materials in spent nuclear reactor fuels.
Iran never had a running Uranium based reactor. It thereby does NOT have any spent nuclear reactor fuels. It thereby can not reprocess Uranium. You can not reprocess air in a vacuum.
The purpose of enriching Uranium is to gain fuel for nuclear reactors to generate electricity.
The following countries are known to operate enrichment facilities, including R&D facilities: Argentina, Brazil, China, France, Germany, India, Iran, Japan, the Netherlands, Pakistan, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States. Israel and North Korea are also suspected of having enrichment programs. Belgium, Italy and Spain hold an investment interest in the French Eurodif enrichment plant. Countries that had enrichment programs in the past include Australia, Libya and South Africa, but of those only South Africa actually operated an enrichment facility.
If enriching Uranium "is to lead to a nuclear weapon" when will Perinio threaten the bombing of Argentina, Brazil, Germany, Japan, the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Spain? They do not have nukes. Why are they enriching Uranium?
Let us see if U.S. journalists are able to or willing to confront these White House lies. But don’t hold your breath. Most of their stories will be the usual "He said, she said" junk. A clear objective statement of one side will be contrasted with a provable outright lie on the other without any effort by the writer to expose the lier.
For a while it looked like the nuclear part of the "bomb Iran" propaganda campaign was put aside because it didn’t really take hold in the polls. Instead the campaign was moved to the false theme of Iran "killing U.S. soldiers in Iraq". Decreasing U.S. casualties have taken the air out of that balloon. We are back at a "mushroom clouds" fear campaign.
Iran is not pursuing a military nuclear program. As IAEA boss El Baradei yesterday said:
[H]ave we seen Iran having the nuclear material that can readily be used into a weapon? No. Have we seen an active weaponization program? No.
There is simply no evidence of such a program but several very public statements by Iran, including an important fatwa of its supreme leader, against any development of nuclear weapons.
The White House retreating again to ‘the nuclear issue’ as a casus belli against Iran could be a sign of panic – a last desperate try. The accusation is too easy to debunk and will not gain much, if any, support at home and none in the international field.
But the White House might have stopped to care about any justification at all. This could be just smoke to launch the attack tomorrow or the day after.
Any bets when the crazies will actually press the button?
Yes, the Bush/Cheney administration is feeding the public outright lies, just like before the invasion of Iraq. They know these are lies, just as they knew that Saddam H. was not a threat to the U.S.
B, on an earlier post, linked to Sy Hersh’s speech to Amnesty Int’l at Trinity College in Ireland. Being a fan of George Galloway, I had listened to some of this talk earlier via a link from Spiderednews but after a few minutes, I turned it off. However, after b’s recommendation, I returned and listened to the whole thing. Even after listening to it all, I remained disappointed in what Hersh had to say. This is a direct quote from Sy Hersh talking about Bush: “He [Bush] believes what he says.” Hersh then continues, talking about the reason for attacking Iraq/Iran “{Bush} is really fascinated by democracy…He believes that the solution to Iraq is now Iran.”
This is BullSh#t.
It almost appears as if Hersh is protecting the Bush/Cheney cabal from war crimes. Hersh is quite composed when he speaks of the Bush/Cheney “mistaken beliefs”. How Hersh remains so composed when he speaks of the lies, the torture, and of the million dead is beyond my understanding. And it seems that Hersh is so enamored with his inside contacts that he is on some type of ego trip. No doubt he is being careful not to forsake his stature with his inside contacts. In one sentence he brags how, in the event he is able to find something out about the Bush/Cheney cabal, his job demands that he reveal this information. Yet a few sentences later, Hersh says he can’t reveal a lot of what his sources tell him. Hersh’s attitude is one of entire resignation, that is, Bush/Cheney will do what they want regardless of media.
I came away from this Trinity College speech as Hersh laying the media groundwork for war – or as another commentator implied (was it dan of steel?), this Bush administration might be using Hersh (unknown to Hersh) to their advantage. In any case, reporting stuff
like this can really get Turkey and Iran “riled up” to say the least. That seems exactly what Bush/Cheney desire, and we hear it first from Hersh. My point in all this is not to condemn Hersh, but if Hersh is the best America has to offer, things are worse than I figured.
With all that said, I am left with an even bigger, overall question unanswered, that is, “Why is Bush/Cheney et al waging war on Iraq and Iran? Unlike Hersh, I don’t believe that it is for Bush trying to bring Democracy to the Middle East. And no one at Moon of Alabama has convinced me that all this craziness is because of some sort of “religion is evil” reason. Somehow I just don’t see Cheney’s actions guided by some “religious” principles. Rumsfeld certainly appeared to have little if any religious scruples. If Bush had the slightest amount of Christian religion that he pretends to have, one would assume that he would have some respect for truth and human life. Bush has none. Nor do I think these people are crazy. Nor do I think it is for the oil – after all, Iraq and Iran would be happy to sell the U.S. oil. So why all this war? What am I missing here? Do I need a larger tin foil hat to recognize the New World Order plans from the Bilderberg Group as Alex Jones warns in EndGame? Or is it that Israel is so persuasive, assisted with fistfuls of U.S. dollars from its never-ending aid from the U.S.? But even if one, some, or many, of these possibilities are true, why would anyone desire to pay such a high price along with such a high risk that things could easily spiral “out of control”? And to most of us, it appears things are spiraling “out of control”, yet these guys desire to continue further with this crooked plan by bombing Iran. It makes little sense, and quite frankly, Hersh is of little help.
Posted by: Rick | Oct 30 2007 5:59 utc | 6
In a strange way Im kind of “hoping” the USgov has some more arguments to back up their claims.
It’s deja vu all over again, circa 19/03/2003. They have plenty of arguments, all empty and devoid of supporting facts
…rewarding the most cut throat assholes rising atop the cesspool like sewage scum and you get a kind of shitty group think necessary to march the entire culture in lockstep right into the toilet. – anna missed
“Seriously, that is probably an important ingredient to this whole mess.” – rick
Of course. It is just an extension of patriotism, nationalism, cultural exceptionalism and faith. Anna missed has stated a truth for any nation – Canucks were told last night that a god was with them. Gott mit uns, jedermann?. Quam can nos exsisto malum ut deae es nobis?
The “greater grey mass” have faith those in the upper echelons would not, could not be there if they weren’t intrinsically good and blessed by a god.
Faith has no use for facts and will run screaming from them (literally for those who feel they are very tight with a god) in a bid to preserve the belief system – whether in a god or a dear leader or in their own talents and success. Denzel Washington believes he is a success because he tithes – not due to his talent or luck.
Luck, probabilities. People refuse to accept how great a role that plays in life and so seek to impose some greater meaning or intent to events. Can you influence these events? Sure, one way or another but only to a degree – there are things beyond even AHHHnie’s control. Mr. Washington is a handsome fella, but he likely attributes that to a god with a higher purpose for him, not the fortunate mingling of genetic material.
Consider a video, probably on youtube, of an accident at a 4-way intersection. Traffic is flowing OK and a teenager is slouching towards the lights oblivious to all with his earbuds and MP3s blaring. The lights change as the kid approaches, but a couple of SUV drivers have difficulty grasping this and collide violently. One tumbles wildly towards the kid as he is about to step off the curb and flattens him like pita bread.
Bad luck? Sure, but without the earbuds the kid likely would have been more aware of the environment and been able to avoid his apparent death.
“{Bush} is really fascinated by democracy…He believes that the solution to Iraq is now Iran.”
This is a direct quote from Sy Hersh talking about Bush: “He [Bush] believes what he says.”
It almost appears as if Hersh is protecting the Bush/Cheney cabal from war crimes. Hersh is quite composed when he speaks of the Bush/Cheney “mistaken beliefs”.
This is BullSh#t.
Well, that is belief isn’t it? No facts required. Just faith. If a person really does believe whatever it is being claimed, he/she are absolved of any fraudulent intent or nefarious (often fatal) outcome.
For example, consider the dubious talents of a kid from BC that claims he can heal anything at a distance if sent a colour photo (curiously, no B&W) and only after you have purcha$ed the book and DVD(of cour$e), so that you can “under$tand” his method$ – by manipulating the quantum (of course, never mind the energy required to do so) he can “see” into anyone, anywhere at the molecular level thereby repairing the malady. If he fails, usually the victim is blamed for a lack of understanding (ironically so, unfortunately). Given his claimed abilities, how could he fail at all?
When recently discussing this charlatan with a person of faith, it was asked if this mountebank “really believed” in his ability or if “he knew” it was fraudulent.
The fact these claims, when first uttered, are entirely impossible – according to the “no free lunch principles” (in general acceptance in this establishment, at least for climate change) – is unimportant where faith is concerned, thus absolving this quack of any responsibility for the results of his actions.
Same with the Chimpster, he really believes in what he says and does, despite the fact there weren’t any facts to back him up from the get go, other than that specious, cherry-picked laughable lot (I laughed out loud at Powell’s “facts” presented to the UN) they themselves provided as “proof.”
If religion isn’t evil, what is it? A vengeful, capricious god smiting all the first born males (Iraqis) for the actions of one pharaoh (Saddam) and all the ranidae smashed in the same vein isn’t exactly loving of people or animals is it? Erring on the side of life?
Benign it isn’t, as it has been used to motivate the stupid monkeys to commit violence on each other for tens of thousands of years and all with the same rallying cry – more recently “god wills it” to “gott mit uns” to “god bless america” to …n.
At best a distraction, at worst a major motivating factor behind the endless violence and dominionism of the stupid monkey.
Posted by: jcairo | Nov 1 2007 14:42 utc | 21
You just don’t know when to stop do you?
Sorry Rick, I’d love to respond but it is quite obvious that I have made it my life’s work to antagonize annielingus with my every post. Given her ability to put two and two together and make three, anything I would respond to you with, must be an attack on her, entirely due to the subject matter. It must be true, ’cause annie said so right here:
excuuuuuse me for assuming your point about the role of faith, faith in god, gods will etc, had any reference to w/me.
that reference was the partial use of my name. given we had an extensive argument in the past on the subject matter included in your text (faith), i connected the 2.
Lets see, how many words have a-n-i-e in them? Asinine…
That previous argument was about psychic ability, not faith (whereas the current discussion was about an aspect of faith – which is now an argument about you – see 22 if ya dinna remember lass). You were, back then, blathering on about psychics being in tune and that “there are many of us”.
I called bullshit and provided backing evidence. All you did was yap about yourself and avoid counter-evidence, repeatedly – as did all other patrons (not only anything I provided, but also that of TTGVWYCI).
All the while you were throwing words like faith and belief around, as in “we all have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow” – LOL). This led to snark on my part and fuck off on yours (oooh, sharp that blade).
Oh and after all was said and done, you said peace & I said pax.
(Of course, only AFTER I mention that I was taking meds for something I wouldn’t even wish on you. Funny how the whole tone of the place changed, as if it had anything to do with that discussion or this one.)
Let’s not forget the Greek chorus at the time – I’m hysterical, alcoholic, the idiot that gets his opinions from episodic tv, the pig, can’t stay on topic and now go take my meds (did it hurt you to think of that one, I bet thinking hurts as you seem to do so little of it). And please folks, feel free to refresh my memory with all the other niceties you had to say to me back then, while annie was calmly telling this little piece of shit to fuckoff – somehow this is considered on-topic when spoken by anniemal
Ahh, this must be the warm ambiance of humanity that r-giap mentioned permeates this joint…
What, 2-3 months ago this happened and all has been quiet on the western front since then and in my case, quite happily forgotten – as in let go.
But not annie, oh no.
Well excuse, me oh exalted one, I made a perfectly innocent post on this topic and you attacked me for no good reason other than your delusional persecution complex. Your inadequate attempts to rationalize your irrational behaviour, notwithstanding.
Yet I’m the one aching for a fight (you too feeble minded to realize your error in cracking about my brain being beyond control – however, this could be a result of your self professed baseball sized brain – 145 grams vs 1300 or so, for those lower in the information food chain like me.)
I’m the one that needs to grow up?
Despite having thought nowt about you for ages, while you naturally assume I do nothing but devise ways to annoy you – which is obviously quite easy, given your paranoid nature. I need to mature? You fly off the handle because you can’t let go (or are paranoid, narcissistic and delusional) and I need to mature?
You could have asked for clarification or ignored it all together or riffed off of any of the points I made, but no you lunged for my ankles with one of your dull blades and so received a smack back. This prompted two of your fans to buy into your delusion that I have nothing better to do with my time than to imagine ways to annoy you.
Really, why would I have even been thinking about her at all as I penned this post? Why? Because we argued once? Donnez moi une break.
Posted by: jcairo | Nov 2 2007 23:50 utc | 39
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