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October 12, 2007
Peace Prize

What has Gore done for peace?

Yes, climate change is certainly a war and peace issue, but it was on the international agenda before Gore started to occupy the theme.

To prioritize this years prize on climate change is fine. But R K Pachauri and the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change alone would have been better in emphazising the global challenge. Gore’s prize makes this an U.S. centric theme. 

More in general: Can’t we think of people who have done more – and sacrificed for peace.

Best guess for the motive:

The committee wanted to give Gore a push to run for U.S. president. Maybe not a bad idea, but why (again) demean the peace prize for it. Anyway, may he live up to it.

Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize

Comments

The award probably has more to do with dissing Bush than honoring Gore.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 12 2007 10:44 utc | 1

Maybe they just wanted to highlight the impact a well-received film has done in raising the consciousness of conscious (Republicans need not apply) people about the problem.

Posted by: Lurch | Oct 12 2007 12:07 utc | 2

Al and Tipper Gore are not your friends…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 12 2007 12:22 utc | 3

Maybe they want to boost Gores chances, in the hope that as president he would pull out US troops of Iraq and thus creating more peace in the region? Maybe they are tired of only rewarding peace and instead wants to create some?
Thinking about it, it would not be the first time. The Nobel Peace Prize commitee has a number of times given the prize according to where it would create most peace, supporting tentative peace efforts and so on, instead of waiting to see how it pans out and then hand out it out. In a way this is more in keeping with Nobels will (I think there is something about “during the last year(s?)”) than rewarding people for discoveries 30-40 years after the fact like the tendency looks in the scientific ones.

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 12 2007 12:55 utc | 4

As usual, Uncle $cam in #3 is right. As fortunes would have it, no one allowed to be in power is friend to any but their creditors.
How could things be any other way? In any human organization, those that pay the bills make the rules. Pottersville Chamber of Commerce, Going Home Bowling Team, Santa Nada Fishing Junkets … all decisions are made by those who pay fees in specie or labor, usually before the meeting.

Posted by: plushtown | Oct 12 2007 13:14 utc | 5

Well Kissinger won the Peace Prize so one shouldn’t complain.
I guess the Committee rather wanted to honor a ‘looser’ that they like, and weren’t loath to nominate an American.
The African lady tree hugger or planter from previous went over like a lead balloon. (No criticism of her, but I have forgotten her name, which says it all.) At least Gore’s film was a success, or something. Who knows.
Gore I think reacted badly to being the patsy in the election. So he retrenched, he has pride and belief in himself, did so by going ‘global’, heh heh, on an issue that is really non-controversial, or not enough so to create serious problems, along the universalist world Gov. lines, we’re all in the sh*t together, etc. of course the Nobels like that a lot.
Gore won’t ever stand again. This was a tribute to an individual who is seen as promoting sanity.

Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 12 2007 13:39 utc | 6

@ #6, tangerine
Yes, promoting sanity as Barnum promoted the egress. His movie gives only pucker service to idea of planting trees etc. to combat climate degradation and not even that to inevitability of earthquakes under lightening glaciers. But the name Gore is a potent one for anointing as POTUS, as are Snow for press caresser and Devil’s Own for FEMA czar.

Posted by: plushtown | Oct 12 2007 14:01 utc | 7

gore went way too easy on industrial civilization, which allows a lot of criminal polluters to still sleep peacefully at night, thus a token peace award

Posted by: b real | Oct 12 2007 14:14 utc | 8

Gore has probably outgrown the pathology it takes to hunger for, and gain, the Oval Office.
His most likely impact on this election cycle will be to endorse one of Hillary’s opponents in time to take her out during this ultra-short, rigged primary season.
It will look like a political hit job, just plausibly deniable.
Whack a doo, whack a doo, whack a doo.
If Al Gore wants real change and commitment on global warming from America, he can either go for the Oval Office himself, or get concessions up front from the guy he helps put into that office.
What would Cincinnatus do? He’d back someone he trusts to do the right thing, and then get back to his plowing.

Posted by: Antifa | Oct 12 2007 15:07 utc | 9

plushtown at 7, I meant in their Nobel eyes. I haven’t seen the Inconvenient Truth though I did intend, to orb the the spin and figure the camera angles and what not but I missed it.
Ghloball (sic) warming is a soft issue – not in reality, but in the public’s mind. It is an out-of-control thingie, some good and bad points, etc. etc. Amenable to the expected doomerism as well as the slap-on-the-back congrats, bring it on, let’s grow wheat in Siberia or finally not be so cold in the winter, here in Zurich, or Maine, or Bergen, etc. It serves to cover up, blanket out, peak oil, water shortage, agri, etc., head shaking at all the weirdness, and who knows about that Kyoto protocol, etc. And oh many all love to talk about the weather, sealed in elevators and blind offices.
Gore really needed to continue to exist. It worked, a prize. Real change is not part of the agenda.

Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 12 2007 15:59 utc | 10

Al Gore is the sort of person who makes me embarassed to call myself a liberal. He really has a knack for making all our ideals seem ludicrous and superficial. I suppose he is doing it with all the best intentions, but I think he has harmed the liberal movement more than he has helped it.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Oct 12 2007 16:20 utc | 11

as tangerine has noted any prize that hs been givent to kissinger, de klerk & rabin isn’t worth the paper its written on

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 12 2007 16:57 utc | 12

I agree with Bernhard that the award to Al Gore is kind of U.S.-centric but perhaps it is intended to be. Perhaps the Nobel Committee wants to recognize Gore’s significant contribution to educating the U.S. public on global warming.
Is it not the case that the U.S. was (until surpassed by China this year) the world’s leader both in emissions and in denial?
From what I’ve seen and read, most European countries are far ahead of us in North America in coming to grips with global warming. If a Nobel prize helps increase awareness in the U.S., can that be bad?
(This is not a dig at the U.S. I’m Canadian and ashamed to say that our current federal government under Conservative Stephen Harper follows in lock-step with the Bush administration on global warming -as in many other issues.)

Posted by: peggie | Oct 12 2007 21:02 utc | 13

Al Gore is being rewarded for his efforts, in the same manner and for the same solution as the bloke who invented papal indulgences. back in the day when the Catholic Church ran the whitefella world and before the alleged Reformation where the church attempted to rid itself of it’s worst corruption some weird stuff to favour the rich went down. Today’s first lesson a little yarn from Argentina demonstrates the failure of the Reformation:

Christian Von Wernich’s story is one of the darkest chapters of the ‘Dirty War’. He was the priest who heard the confessions of political prisoners, passed them on to the police, and then stood by as the detainees were tortured.

If there was a god John Paul 2 would be rotting in hell for the misery of Latin America which he conspired to enable.
As usual I digress big time. Papal indulgences were a device thought up by some young up and comer in the Church Hierarchy who was tasked with solving a thorny problem.
This ten commandments bullshit was all well and good for the peasants. The masses don’t produce if they’re fucking each others wives, in likelihodd they’ll kill each other causing the loss of valuable economic units – not too mention breeding stock.
We can’t g\have em trying to steal their stuff back either. What’s ours is ours. All in all the god’s law line is invaluable for keeping things as they should be.
However that said, the rich herded like cattle, can’t be held accountable for every strumpet they grab out of a tenant’s house to bonk.
As for this business of sending them to hell for getting rid of an upstart standing between the strumpet and the fulfillment of their desire is ridiculous. As if a rich man should go to hell for killing a peasant!
Mean to say, what is the point of being rich if you can’t enjoy your wealth?
So back in the 10th century a system was organised whereby the rich would buy forgiveness off the church for large sums. Called papal indulgences. By the time of the reformation 500 years later it had evolved into a complex system of arts patronage. As well as financing wonderful art and marvelous architecture, it had enabled some of the most evil oppression of ordinary people – us mob – both within Europe and just beginning the destruction and genocide of the Americas.
Al Gore’s bullshit of reducing the multi-faceted environmental consequences of our rampant consumerist culture down to carbon emmissions and global warming has allowed the BS carbon credit system to get off the ground. People buy a block of land and plant a few trees (papal indulgences) then they kick up as much mess, resource wastage and toxicity as they like.
Of course poor people can’t pay for any of that and they will be hit with a double whammy. Not only will energy costs rise drastically, the food sources and income generating methods they once had will be confiscated so the rich can plant trees.
This is a sick perversion of everything that the environment movement once stood for.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 12 2007 21:51 utc | 14

DID@14, (Reformation link)
I will forever remember JOHN WYCLIFFE (1320-1384) words — “Who can forgive sins?” Wycliffe taught: “God alone!”
and what an awesome victory against moral superiority for Wycliffe, to have his bones exhumed & burnt by the Pope

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Oct 13 2007 2:07 utc | 15

For what it’s worth (not much I guess), but I heard Gore on Danish radio this morning making a short statement, before which it was announced that he would answer no questions.
What he said was that he and his wife were getting ready to go to Oslo to accept this honor on the behalf of all those who have worked hard and diligently and for so long to bring the reality of this crisis to public attention and the necessity for it being addressed with the seriousness it deserves. [that’s not a quote of course, and I think I spun it a but…]
Furthermore, he is donating his share of the prize money to some enviromental group — I didn’t catch which.
That said, why pick on him? As far as I can see, from the standpoint of his convictions and the access he has to the public mind he is doing the best he can to make a differnece.
Gandhi’s injuncture was that, it may not seem that the little can do makes a difference or change, but that does not absolve you from the responsibility to do the little you can do to make a difference.
Or, as Pete Seeger used to sing about the futility of what “one man’s hands” can accomplish, “…but if two and two and fifty make a million, we can make that day come around!”

Posted by: Chuck Cliff | Oct 13 2007 8:55 utc | 16

There are two elements not mentioned here…
1) Gore’s anti-Iraq war stance, this is public, and can be seen as promoting peace; 2) perhaps not really germane here, in the sense that it certainly was not openly discussed, but may have contributed to the general ambiance – Gore is generally considered to be innocent re. 9/11, as to previous knowledge, suspicious actions on the day, and direct participation in the cover-up. (Silence is a lesser sin..) He is somehow seen as ‘clean’ on this score. My own perception, for what it’s worth, is that that is roughly correct, or can be reasonably assumed.
Lastly, Gore’s venture into TV is hardly ever mentioned, so I’ll add that current tv is absolutely worth a look. The last thing I saw there was ‘Rebels in the pipeline’ – about the rebels in Nigeria (MEND) – good pictures, very pointed. Not deep analysis, but the format doesn’t really allow it. I also watched one doc. some weeks ago about Palestine, with good on the ground coverage, it pulled no punches, was really quite devastating, and factually correct.
A check today -search:: Palestine- shows mostly discussion threads and at top a ‘softish’ shortie titled ‘Children of Palestine’ – that is the free content – going to p. 2 you can view:
A West Bank Heart: link
or A bullet journey link
both are viewer submitted, and quite representative.
current tv
BBC on Gore’s tv
Better than nothing.

Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 13 2007 11:20 utc | 17

I read this opinion on the Peace Prize this morning at Antiwar.com
I feel it pretty much sums up what I think about it.
Link

Posted by: Ensley | Oct 13 2007 12:35 utc | 18

Hannah’s answer is much more probable than any effort to encourage a Gore presidential run.
Gore’s circumspection on receiving award and his emphasis on the scientists and co-winners of the prize as the people who did the heavy lifting help the prize retain some luster and dignity.
As for U.S.-centricity: This is the country whose oil consumption, economy, and world footprint give it the capacity and obligation to make the biggest difference in slowing the planetary meltdown. It’s completely appropriate to point the big Nobel finger at our failure to do so, which is how I read the award.

Posted by: Nell | Oct 13 2007 20:03 utc | 19

Post at TPM goes into a couple op-eds today on why the right is in a tizzy over Gore. This one from Bob Herbert:

[…]In the race for the highest office in the land, we showed the collective maturity of 3-year-olds.
Mr. Gore was taken to task for his taste in clothing and for such grievous offenses as sighing or, allegedly, rolling his eyes. It was a given that at a barbecue everyone would rush to be with his opponent.
We’ve paid a heavy price. The president who got such high marks as a barbecue companion doesn’t seem to know up from down. He’s hurled the nation into a ruinous war that has cost countless lives and spawned a whole new generation of terrorists. He continues to sit idly by as a historic American city, New Orleans, remains wounded and on its knees. He’s blithely steered the nation into a bottomless pit of debt.

And this by Jonathan Chait:

The defensiveness of Gore’s critics comes because he is the ultimate rebuke to Bush. Gore, obviously, is the great historic counter-factual, the man who would have been president if Florida had a functioning ballot system. More than that, he is the anti-Bush. He is intellectual and introverted, while Bush is simplistic and backslapping.

Personally I’d go a step further and say that Gore represents a counterfactual truth not only against bush, but the entire republican fascist/faith based machine. It’s as if with all their shrieking, they’re admitting in effect to being like Dracula, and after too long a hard days night of rampant bloodsucking, is now been caught by the morning sun.
I suppose there are reasons why, I feel like we’re reliving the 16th century.

Posted by: anna missed | Oct 13 2007 20:42 utc | 20