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October 12, 2007
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While the page views per day at MoA is fairly constant, the number of comments per day seems to be down.

That’s sad as the blog and I are living off your comments. So I wonder why there are less and less.

Politically my writing moved a bit further to the left – content wise it got a bit more international? Could those be reasons for less participation?

What to do better? What themes should get more emphasis at MoA, what should be covered less?

Please check the archives of the last months and let me know.

I’d love to post more stuff from other writers here. If you’d like to publish on MoA please send your piece to the email address on the ‘about’ page.

Thank you all for coming here.

Comments

As far as I’m concerned, you shouldn’t change a thing — the topic mix and the insights and perspectives I get here are unmatched anywhere else. When I slack off on commenting it is always more a function of being overwhelmed in my own life than of losing desire or interest to do so. I find when I start commenting it’s so interesting and enjoyable that I can lose hours out of a day without realizing it… and right now that is not something I can afford! So I’ve been reading without participating lately but that’s not fair either. I will try and do more.

Posted by: Bea | Oct 12 2007 19:59 utc | 1

Bernhard,
Bea has echoed my thoughts completely. Yes, please don’t change a thing. I would love to comment more but I am just short of time lately. Your thread topics and the comments that have followed have been excellent.
There is an item that I would like to discuss more though. I am concerned about the global monetary system – I know so little how it works though that I cannot even phrase the question. I also have another idea for a thread that I will send to you personally for your opinion.
Thanks again.

Posted by: Rick | Oct 12 2007 20:25 utc | 2

b,
this is a great blog. In fact you may be ahead of your time. The truth is international, so you are well covered there. People come here because they are curious to learn something new. Again & again. Or to gain/share interesting perspectives. I like it as it is. Its great so please do’nt change.
not everyone is going to like the style, the content, the range or maybe they might think it leans too anti-this or pro-that … Thats fine too.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Oct 12 2007 20:54 utc | 3

Wot dey sed; Ergo bibamus…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 12 2007 21:06 utc | 4

b
you know i think this is a magnificent blog & the quality of comments is quantum leaps ahead of anything elsewhere
it is true to say that most of us here live & work active lives – hopefully ones of resistance also – & given this world – i imagine there are a number of us including you who are fatigued by the events we are living through
you can’t live through the obscenities we are passing through & not remain untouched
so it leads sometimes to less posting – i know it is true of myself, especially thrown about by the sickness as i am – but that being said there isn’t a day that passes without checking in here – mostly for a solid moment other times to gather news
i do not think you have to change anything – there is a purity of purpose in the form & given the nature of some of the posts – they are of such quality they require significant meditation – yr meditation on burma for example – required attention
isn’t it true also that for all the time we have been here – there have been moments such as this – a little less activity but i am not surprised that the pageviews remain constant because you have constructed a solid resource & an implacable one

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 12 2007 21:21 utc | 5

As a longtime visitor here (and at Billmon’s Whiskey Bar before this), I agree with some of your other posters. This is a great site. Keep doing what you’re doing, and you’ll be fine.
Part of the problem is that there are many good sites out there, and readers who might patronize yours more frequently have their own and maybe one or two others they can get to in a busy day. It’s often just a matter of time. But don’t get discouraged, please!

Posted by: kelley b. | Oct 12 2007 21:56 utc | 6

echo the sentiments above……….. just do it. I got blog stress syndrome from doing Iraq (can I sue)………

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Oct 12 2007 22:12 utc | 7

Bernhard,
I am sorry that I have not replied more. It is not you, it is more us.
It gets so hard to find a decent comment these days given the damnable actions of my government — I just do not know what to say sometimes.
Please keep up the good work you do.

Posted by: Bucky | Oct 12 2007 22:12 utc | 8

I check in every day, Bernhard, and you’re doing superb work. I mean it. And many, many thanks for this!…. As for my own silence: I haven’t had a fresh thought in many a moon, and in fact I’ve moved to Europe in hopes of some revival (detoxing, I suppose). When fresh thoughts come–and indeed they shall–you’ll be the first to know.

Posted by: alabama | Oct 12 2007 22:48 utc | 9

I am also an old ‘whiskey bar’ fan, and I am a fan of this site, as is! Don’t change things that you think work, and thanks for asking the readers. I’m among those who rarely comment. It’s not you, it’s me. This is a lefty-international type blog, please keep it that way… and thanks for all the work, many of us ‘non-commenters’ also appreciate it.!

Posted by: anon in chicago | Oct 12 2007 23:05 utc | 10

I have been a long time lurker here and at Billmons. Please continue on. I check this site everyday and I am amazed on the conversations that go on here.

Posted by: lurker206 | Oct 12 2007 23:25 utc | 11

B:
Most comments I’d make amount to “YEAH!” or “I totally agree with you!” or some other banal blather.
Your writing doesn’t deserve my commenting……? or something. I read everything via Google Reader these days, too.
But if “Go get ’em tiger!” is what you need from me, it’s an easy trade for the good writing.
Best,
-j

Posted by: Jeremiah | Oct 12 2007 23:40 utc | 12

tho i have to say that even in my parlous state i miss my scuffles with old slothrop

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 13 2007 0:05 utc | 13

I am one of your regular readers who hardly ever posts, but maybe I should. I really appreciate what you are doing, please keep up the good work!
Though European, I currently live in Hong Kong. By the way, this week I got an invitation to help sponsor a lecture/dinner event for Tony Blair, billed as a “World Leader”, who is apparently going to rake in lots of cash for speaking to an audience of businessmen here. I would have liked to reply that far from eager to co-sponsor, I would not attend the event if they paid me, since I loathe and despise the man – but of course one does not, as the constraints of politeness and position make it inadvisable to put such feelings in writing.
However, it is my fervent wish for Blair to end up facing a tribunal to answer for his crimes, and as he is not that old, it might yet happen sooner or later.

Posted by: Miriam | Oct 13 2007 0:25 utc | 14

I’m one who checks MOON OF ALABAMA several times a day, just to see what’s new. I don’t know enough to post much — my opinions are largely informed by other blogs. As a retired copy editor, my experience is in pushing other people’s words around, but also weighing them for consistency, conciseness, and accuracy. Our public discourse lacks most of these nowadays. My spouse and I are emotionally involved, and worn, by disputes in the Episcopal Church, which is trying to avoid acknowledging the shape of the earth in order to remain in relationship with those whose texts portray it as flat. In short, it’s a time of outrage fatigue, a gap between political seasons.
If your readership is holding up, B., I think you’re contributing. Most of us have said what’s to be said, many times over. Something is sure to come along to stir up comment again. I hate to think what that might be.
One idea. So much of the blogosphere buys into the idea that the traditional media is falling down on its job of informing readers and fact-checking authorities. But from its actions over time, the traditional media’s job is to sell the establishment narrative, however little it relates to reality. Indeed, reading the establishment’s version of reality over and over, backed by the highest authority, is intended to keep us conflicted, doubting our perceptions, feeling that organizing is futile. I don’t know how we get out information in the face of the traditional media’s ignoring or distorting it, or how we can counter its lies about those trying to speak of reality. The Web helps, but reaches a minority of citizens. But the job needs doing. Already the heavy hitters like the NYT and WP are demeaning and trivializing progressive leaders, not to mention the open slanders of the rightwing propaganda outlets. More progressives probably will be elected next year, but the future won’t save us. The crisis is now.
Thanks, Bernhard, for this forum. Please persevere.

Posted by: mudduck | Oct 13 2007 0:51 utc | 15

In post 15, I wondered how to get word to people professionally misled by the traditional media and the rightwing propagandists (fine line, sometimes). FireDogLake yesterday had a post by Naomi Klein, author of The End of America; A Letter of Warning. She’s finding people on her book tour starving for information and outlets for fighting back:
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/11/12187/
I am traveling across the country at the moment — Colorado to California — speaking to groups of Americans from all walks of life about the assault on liberty and the ten steps now underway in America to a violently closed society. The good news is that Americans are already awake: I thought there would be resistance to or disbelief at this message of gathering darkness — but I am finding crowds of people who don’t need me to tell them to worry; they are already scared, already alert to the danger and entirely prepared to hear what the big picture might look like. To my great relief, Americans are smart and brave and they are unflinching in their readiness to hear the worst and take action. And they love their country.
But I can’t stand the stories I am hearing. I can’t stand to open my email these days. And wherever I go, it seems, at least once a day, someone very strong starts to cry while they are speaking. . . .
[More at the URL]

Posted by: mudduck | Oct 13 2007 1:17 utc | 16

Naomi Wolf, not Klein, & some interesting commentaries.

Posted by: anna missed | Oct 13 2007 1:27 utc | 17

I find it harder to have something to add. Or rather the situation in Iraq and the world at large saps me of energy. Or perhaps it is the perspective. Let me try to sort that out.
We tend (here, there, everywhere) to read, see and analyse things for the point of view of the US government (what are they up to in south Iraq?), the republican party (what are their scheamings to defeat the democrats in the next election?), the democratic hopefuls for presidency (will Al run?), power brokers, decisionmakers. And that is useful. Putting yourself in anothers shoes is often the best way to understand them. But we are not presidents, party leaders, power brokers, decisionmakers. So we do not really come that much closer to what we can do. And somewhere we might be convinced that it is only the talking heads on the tube that matter. Unless they say there is a revolution brewing we might have a hard time believing it even if we would be standing in it. (Notes for the revolution: first take the TV towers)
But we can change the world. We are humans, humans change the world the whole time (sometimes dramatically so, noticed the weather lately?). It is just that most of it never ends up in history books as individual acts, it is just the great unwashed masses moving like currents, forcing a king or two to loose their thrones (or their heads). Most revolutions succeed when the grunts – cops or military – say “screw this, I’m going home”. Well that is people like us, both the revolutionaries and the grunts, members of the great unwashed. And together they decide the outcome. Not the leaders. Oh, to make a good story of it most historians pick a person or two that “lead” the movement. Never mind that the leaders were figureheads or spokespersons and lots and lots of individuals did what little or much they could and together they changed things. Leaders come along or are appointed when their is a movement (formalised or not) in a direction. I suspect the narrative of the so called leaders of the world being in charge, is the most power draining the same so called leaders has ever come up with.
So how then to get power, to recharge? I think the best way (for me anyway) is to hear about and talk about what we each do. Because we all do acts of resistance – big or small – and it is that sum of human actions that change the world all the time. I have written here about what I do (pirate things), but what do you do to fight the evil empire? Even if its just symbolically it is always great to hear.
And finally, to beq, for a favorite act of symbolic resistance taught at the MoA summit: Cheers and FUCK BUSH!

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 13 2007 2:33 utc | 18

b,
if you want to, “Acts of resistance” could be the topic for a thread or something.

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 13 2007 2:35 utc | 19

And oh, I know what b does. He runs a blog. 🙂

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 13 2007 3:07 utc | 20

ASKOD,
Good comment. Speaking for myself, I definitely waste too much time reading/thinking what the corporate media focuses on. We can change the world – each of us can. But we need to quit thinking and acting in the environment that is presented to us– an environment of kool-aid where even the fumes can affect one’s thinking. In a spiritual sense, we need to ignore, even discard this world as best we can and proceed from ‘there’. ‘There’ is a frightening place, a place of true freedom and unlimited opportunity, yet without the safety or comfort of our present situation. Quizá Mañana, eh?

Posted by: Rick | Oct 13 2007 3:14 utc | 21

bernhard, i am still reading. not much time for commenting though. just too busy trying to satisfy work and school responsibilities and use the time left to work towards making change happen. my interests have become more focused and i don’t have as much free time as i used to to comment, but i don’t think you should change a thing. i also love coming here and finding visual work posted by different commentators.

Posted by: conchita | Oct 13 2007 3:39 utc | 22

I love this place, b. Don’t be discouraged, for fuck’s sake. MoA is almost the only blog, at least that I’ve found, where the writing is dedicated, dogged and spot on, and the comments are more like a conversation with friends who have the time and ability to actually expound on something worthwhile. Every other place, it seems to me, is an outlet for ADD, scattershot one-liners, emoticons and in-jokes. Better a thread on MoA with 4 comments than a Kos diary with 475 comments, none of which contain any depth whatsoever. Even if it seems like you’re howling in the wilderness, at least you’re still howling, mate!

Posted by: Tantalus | Oct 13 2007 4:22 utc | 23

b.. i love you and moon! i am out of town because of my show and lots of packing up ‘n stuff. staying w/friends and not a lot of computer time. that is the only reason i have not been commenting. i’ll be home next week sometime.. then w/houseguest for a couple weeks but still i will have more space to comment..
forever yours
annie

Posted by: annie | Oct 13 2007 4:39 utc | 24

The good news is that Americans are already awake: I thought there would be resistance to or disbelief at this message of gathering darkness — but I am finding crowds of people who don’t need me to tell them to worry; they are already scared, already alert to the danger and entirely prepared to hear what the big picture might look like.
madduck #16. this is totally my experience in my travels also.. i have been attending lots of dinner gatherings and catching up w/friends lately..last night w/a bunch of scientist buddies. their conversation was all over the place. israel lobby, DA scandal, left behind video, and of course, AQ brought the rain and traffic jam last night! seems it is the running joke down at the angem lab whenever things go wrong it is always AQ’s fault.

Posted by: annie | Oct 13 2007 4:48 utc | 25

I should stop lurking and peeking through the blinds and speak up now and again, too.

Posted by: theodor | Oct 13 2007 6:24 utc | 26

salam
You are doing great work here, ya Bernhard
mabrouk w alf shukr
For You, for Annie and for all the other jewels who shine here:
7abibi

Posted by: n/a | Oct 13 2007 7:02 utc | 27

If you want my comment, well, this little dandelion looks up and thinks that there is some powerful sunflower type of writing by you and others on this blog, and that my “yeah, right on baby!” comments are superfluous.
However, feedback is needed, you are not a mindreader, and want to know that you are not wasting your time. — So: ever since Steve Gilliard died, this is my #1 site for ideas about how the US military situation is going. And there are other interesting insights besides the strictly military, and a wonderful collection of links. Much of this I would not find by myself. The Iraq was caused a re-education and complete re-examination of what I thought I knew, and your blog has contributed. And yes, while you have gone to the left somewhat, so have I. Actually seeing and understanding the linkages between the US govt. and the megacorps does tend to affect one’s perceptions of how things work.
It is interesting to see people say that Americans are waking up. I do hope they are correct, because what I see is that some Americans have given up and left the country, and feel a sense of relief afterewards. There is also this writer — his Sept. 28 “goodbye message.” Conservative, curmugeon Fred lives in Mexico and says that the US is in the middle of a trainwreck which has to go to completion. That some writers of his acquaintances are now afraid to write what they think … That the policeman is inevitably coming in the middle of the night. That the whole unfolding scenario is grimly amusing and more entertaining than Oprah.
Sorry, for some reason cannot post the link properly
http://www.fredoneverything.net

Posted by: Owl | Oct 13 2007 7:17 utc | 28

fred on everything

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 13 2007 7:25 utc | 29

Wa Alaikum Salaam, n/a

Posted by: Owl | Oct 13 2007 7:26 utc | 30

i’d be surprised if people were commenting less b/c they noticed a turn further left or a more inclusive worldview. more radical thinking is required in order that it lead to more effective action if we, collectively, are to avoid the place most of the world appears to be headed & i think there have been some stellar posts lately. sharp analyses & items that otherwise i’d not have picked up.
at the same time, though, i’m in one of those stretches where i find myself having less time to keep up on everything & then it seems my mental (& digital) energy is largely spent for when i do get to really sit down & read, which makes it tougher to concentrate & offer quality contributions/feedback.
but the quality of the site hasn’t wavered one bit, so far as i am concerned. incredible stamina, b. you’re making billmon look like he took a fall in the second round.

Posted by: b real | Oct 13 2007 8:23 utc | 31

Tantalus @ #23 says what I’ve said many times — that the comment threads here are actually worth reading, generally on topic and, when not quite, usually contain interesting sidenotes.
Hmmmn, now how could that be? Perhaps it just might have something to do with the posts? Could it be that concise, intelligenly well-written and well documented posts have something to do with this?
Not that it helps all that much, I guess, but I promote this and a couple of other sites whereever I go. Otherewise I don’t comment much here unless I think I’ve got an angle from Denmark that fits in.
Anyway, b, keep on trucking, man.

Posted by: Chuck Cliff | Oct 13 2007 8:37 utc | 32

I am a very rare contributor (The only thread I made a major contribution to, something about Neocons/Zionists and the ‘religious extremism’ of the Talmud, was completely deleted!), but I am a regular reader and believe this is the most intelligent blog in the WWW. I can forgive you, Bernhard, for deleting a/m thread, as I can all but imagine the pressure you faced to sacrifice intellectual integrity to avoid lawsuits and whatnot. If anyone needs my juicy excerpts from the Talmud please contact me at my private email address and I’ll oblige.
I leave you with my ‘quote of the day’ from the flag-waving, pseudo-swaggering, Gung-Ho and courageous U.S. President, someone who truly leads by example and should be a living inspiration to the 3,700 dead and 20,000 wounded U.S. soldiers whom he sent to the killing fields of Iraq:
“I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes.”
(George Bush Jr., interviewed by the Houston Chronicle, 1994)

Posted by: Parviz | Oct 13 2007 9:10 utc | 33

I noticed there were less comments too. I wondered should I spice things up by posting something outrageous and decided that was silly. Bea said it right…change is not wanted. My only idea is a small addition: maybe occasionally (eg once every 10 days) a more general, open topic, not linked to the week’s news specifically, or only tangentially so, or arising from it; what’s left of communism? what do the ‘subprime’ losses really mean? what is happening to Uzbek workers? kinda stuff without spilling over into grand future of man philosophy etc. debates.
The blog is great, so one should be very careful of changes. Round for all so we can cheer Bernhard.

Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 13 2007 9:52 utc | 34

@parviz – 33 – The only thread I made a major contribution to, something about Neocons/Zionists and the ‘religious extremism’ of the Talmud, was completely deleted!
Huh??? That would be this thread? – deleted??? Sorry, I am not aware that I deleted any thread. Deleted troll and spam comments but a thread? Can you specify that a bit more?

Thanks to all for the encouragement.
Still, please don’t be so selfish :-). Who else could be interested in this blog and your discussions – how can we reach them? I am sure there is stuff and aspects missing I could add without much trouble. Your critisism is welcome!
I’d also like co-blogger(s) – any takers?

Posted by: b | Oct 13 2007 10:07 utc | 35

b,
one suggestion that might help improve publishments :
maybe create a link that opens a “post a publishment” page similar to the “post a commemt” section so contributors can enter their stuff from within MoA without having to go into their email. The submissions would be saved to a file or auto-emailed to you, for review. The downside is that some level of abuse of this feature by disgruntled elements may occur occccasionally.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Oct 13 2007 10:59 utc | 36

Greetings from a power lurker, several times a day. Keep up the great work.
This site is the most helpful one I’ve found in my field—energy conservation in buildings. Bear with me here. “Sustainability” is generally taken to mean something along the lines of meeting “our” energy needs while not sacrificing the needs of future generations. Heads generally bob up and down in agreement. But this sustainability pact is assymetric for the respective parties. Where are the voices of future generations regarding this contract and its current implementation? We might try a little space-time transform here and listen to the voices from parties to other assymetric pacts that “we” are engaged in. Say, the voices from Iraq, from the Palestinians, from Native Americans. The idyll of a glorious techno-future is a real as flowers and kisses to our troops in Iraq. The distribution of remaining resources will be as treacherous as the treatment of various tribes and factions in Iraq. The value of changing incandescent bulbs for fluorescent is about the same as having voted Democratic, and just as compelling for most people. And the chance of actually meeting future needs is as unlikely as righting the wrongs that this administration, past administrations, and our dismal historical record indicate.
I come to Moon not for lefty politics, not for pessimism (got enough, thanks), but for humanism and its voices. Thanks rgiap especially, but everybody.

Posted by: Browning | Oct 13 2007 11:15 utc | 37

Energy, one study (I just looked for the link only in German and it didn’t pop up) showed that 60% of energy consumption in Switz. is used to build, maintain (eg roof repair etc), and service buildings. They counted in heat, hot water, electric light, and nearby access (eg car park in front) but not human productive activity within the building, industrial, commercial, or private, including cooking of meals. Nor roads etc. to them. Those distinctions are hard to dice; they tried to concentrate on the standard minimum related to the building itself, taking into account it is inhabited by humans who need to be kept alive and clean. 60%!
In the US as elsewhere ppl see the backdrop of the environment as fixed, stable, normal, and they concentrate on what can be felt as energy use, such as gas for the car, the plane, the snomobile, the bus, etc.
this pol site says 50%, in french, it is all I could find right now:
ecologie libérale

Posted by: Tangerine | Oct 13 2007 12:02 utc | 38

B
Don’t worry about it – you’re doing a great “job” with this blog.

Posted by: dan | Oct 13 2007 12:16 utc | 39

theodor
yes, you have much to offer
& it is generally true that lurkers have a great deal more knowledge & wisdom than they thin they have & the interconnections would be intersting to find out
it is at the centre of my work in france to connect with the richesse that exists in all people – that is not an idea of ultrademocracy but rather that – without the dissassociative intervention by the state & all its apparatus – represive & ideological – there is solid information in everyone’s experience
if that is true in culture & i know it is then it is truer here

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 13 2007 12:40 utc | 40

b, re (35), I just rechecked a lengthy private email to me from Rick Happ and realize that I goofed. He was referring to another thread that was closed. Sorry for spreading Misinformation (I actually prefer the Pentagon’s expression Disinformation!).
F A N T A S T I C BLOG. Keep it up.

Posted by: Parviz | Oct 13 2007 14:01 utc | 41

He was referring to another thread that was closed.
Ok – closing threads is different. I close about anything older than a few weeks to prevent spam comments. I once a while close threads when the screaming gets too loud. I hate to censor …

Posted by: b | Oct 13 2007 14:08 utc | 42

RGiap:
To connect with the richesse that exists in all people: for some reason humanism seems to be a dirty word out in the mainstream, but it should never be forgotten that Erasmus and the ur-humanists were reacting to the oppression and cognitive dissonance of the Catholic Church at one of its very lowest points. It’s rather easy and obvious to compare GWB to various modern dictators and despots but it struck me recently that a better comparison might be the Medici or Borgia popes, especially Leo X, who is supposed to have said “It has served us well, this myth of Christ.” Substitute ‘America’ for ‘Christ’ and there you have it.

Posted by: Tantalus | Oct 13 2007 14:42 utc | 43

The above was meant to be a THANK YOU for Giap’s humanism and the humanism of all those who inhabit this place – I was distracted by fatherhood and a wooden crocodile.

Posted by: Tantalus | Oct 13 2007 14:47 utc | 44

Bernhard,
Thanks for the time you give in keeping the blog going. It has been a pleasure to see you grow as a writer. Often I find there is much I want to say, but not much that adds to the discussion, so mostly discuss with those around me.
The blog is fine as is, but hope some of the more talented will help you out.

Posted by: ww | Oct 13 2007 16:00 utc | 45

hello b
I´m german and i can understand all what is commented here,but i don´t feel able to post by my self.I´m a daily visitor,don´t change anything,i need this website.Many thanks and best wishes to all.

Posted by: glarew | Oct 13 2007 16:02 utc | 46

n/a #27, thank you. beautiful.

Posted by: annie | Oct 13 2007 16:29 utc | 47

Once again, others have expressed it better than I could. But I’ll add my vote to the general sentiment and say keep it up. This blog has been consistently the best that I have read. I travel for work a lot and rarely have time to collect my own thoughts enough for a worthy piece of my own. I appreciate everyone else’s contributions as well.

Posted by: biklett | Oct 13 2007 16:43 utc | 48

Muchas gracias, Senor B!
I’m deeply indebted to you and your blog.
Since discovering your blog I am no longer depressed, I am once again potent, and my teeth are whiter! Imagine!
Seriously, I talk about and share comments from here daily. I view it daily, sometimes several times to follow a thread. I recommend the blog to others. We chew on posters comments and love the insights gained. This blog really is a lifesavior in a sometimes dark murky world. I wish I could personally meet and thank most of the posters here, especially my fav, R’Giap. Bea and annie, and Uncle are also people whose posts I jump on.
Thanks to you ALL. Vist Tucson and I’ll host the tequila!
Jake

Posted by: Jake | Oct 13 2007 18:02 utc | 49

Tantalus,
I’ve been thinking the same thing. But more how the belief/faith structure in xtianity is so easily replicated as a belief/faith in americanism and patriotism, using the same basic structure. Its really not a big leap to see rush limbaugh as a modern day calvinist preacher, deploring all people who might question their belief in “america”. A notion of course which he is an ultimate (elect) authority – even using it against his republican callers as not being “real” republicans. I’m seeing calvinism as xtian denomination almost custom made for this purpose of merging religion and state, along the same lines that fascism merges industry and state.

Posted by: anna missed | Oct 13 2007 18:22 utc | 50

Thanks Bernhard, and all. I also mostly lurk, looking at comments several times a day but only occasionally getting up the nerve to say anything. Do appreciate the intelligence here. Very much appreciate the roster at the right of recent posters. Have often wanted to look up past posts by given authors, but only the posts where the name isn’t a link show up in the search. Is there an HTML frame that would enable an author search? If not, not. It’s a great website.

Posted by: plushtown | Oct 13 2007 19:46 utc | 51

Anna Missed,
I’ve always shied away from investigating this subject too much as I find it monumentally grim (I’m a Medievalist by inclination), but I’ve always thought (with no real evidence) that Calvin’s Geneva was a sort of very early pre-fascist experiment in statehood. A lot of those principles were carried over to the Colonies, of course.
Seems to me that, depressingly, you could use all of the Reformation factions as part-metaphors for today’s govt: pre- and Counter-Reformation Papacy, Calvinists and Anabaptists. Btw, have you read Q by Luther Blissett?

Posted by: Tantalus | Oct 13 2007 20:28 utc | 52

Boy, I step away for one day and all hell breaks loose!
Last winter, when I was away from this blog for a number of months, on Christmas Day I wrote a very personal post about how important this blog had been to me and how much it had meant to me, supported me in times of deep distress and feeling lost, and how much I had learnt from it. Unfortunately, I wrote it straight into Haloscan (Goodbye-scan is more like it), and as I was making my final polish, my browser crashed, and the post was gone and irretrievable. As I was deep into the Christmas spirit that grey morning, I cursed every cussword I knew, in every language I knew — which took almost a full hour — and then took it as a sign that the time wasn’t right for me to begin posting again with my own personal crises going on. But, I wish that post hadn’t been lost, b, and that you had received it, and heard the deep-felt appreciation I have for your work and your efforts. At this point in life, I am more interested in reducing my ecological footprint than traveling, but I was still sorry that I did not have a chance to meet with you and fellow MoA posters at the reunion — there are two dozen people I know through this blog, all over the world, that I would love to have a chance to meet and discuss ideas with.
Recent local and personal events have shaken me deeply, and I have again experienced moments of crisis of faith in living. I spoke with a mentor who has lead a long life of religious faith combined with the most radical political activism (involving serious jail-time — an old friend of the Berrigans, by the way), and rather than attempting to assuage my doubts, he affirmed them: Real political work, as with real religious work in a vital and living — not dead — tradition, takes great strength and courage, and always involves a struggle — a deep personal struggle — to seek what is right, and to continually question and examine our responses.
That said, running a blog like this, of this quality and depth of insight, involves serious dedication and commitment, lots of hard work, and it will always be a struggle, it will never come easy. Sorry to have to inform you of this, but I’m sure that you have already figured this out by now. Others are right, parroting the party line, being a Kos and jetting around the world giving glib and shallow speeches about “Netroots” is far easier and more rewarding. Really thinking through issues and debating them, critically reading the news, following the posts from the New Global Gulag™, experiencing the outright rapine pillage of our planet with eyes wide open, is hard and painful work. For most people it is simply too depressing. And we all have a right and a need for a mental health break. Perhaps, you should think of giving yourself a vacation from time-to-time, and handing the daily maintainence over to one of us for a week or two a year.
That said, let me make a few honest and direct points, since you would rather have constructive criticism than puffery and empty praise.
You have moved to the left, and that has probably pissed-off a few people. That’s life, and that’s the trade-off you have to make. Anyone can start a blog and post a few articles about what a jerk Bush is, with a few funny photoshopped pictures and have more views and comments than this blog in less than a month: But what’s the point of that? And where would all of us go? I have watched your thinking evolve and deepen with great love and admiration. I believe that you have been doing some of your best work quite recently. As I have found from some of what I consider my best posts, often that translates into fewer comments rather than more. I have agonized over this, and tried to figure out why this is so, but I’ve come to accept it. Yeah, it is far easier to write “What’s up with the Democrats” and get 50 quick responses, but then what makes this blog unique, and worth my precious time? I skip over those posts generally, and don’t even read them anymore, unless they are keyed into substantial institutional or social analysis of social change — all of which involves real thinking.
So I say to you, don’t worry about page views and post numbers, they wax and wane for all manner of reasons beyond your control; worry about the work, and everything else will take care of itself. I remember you posting something like this about a year-and-a-half ago, feeling stuck, and right after that, things picked up again.
I have introduced this blog to several of my friends, and quite frankly, most of them do not get it. They either do not have the time to post and read and become a member of a virtual community, or they are uncomfotable making the leap to a first post, or they do not see the point in analyzing their views, or whatever reason, it seems that a blog like this is simply not for everyone.
It would be nice if Billmon were still around; the man could write about his toenail clippings and it would be interesting and relevant the world over, but, sadly, few of us can write anywhere near as well as him. But, we should remember that Billmon began his blog during a much headier time for the world, and I think that many of us still had hope that we could REFORM our way out of our problems at that point in time. (My mentor emphasized to me that one must accept that the world is doomed and that we cannot personally save it, in order to have the strength and fortitude to do the day-to-day work to try and save our little piece of it.) We now live at a point in history when the simple, but essential, cataloging of atrocities is often all we can manage. We can attempt to push back, but if we are honest with ourselves, we must accept that in many, many, ways humanity and the planet have lost, and continue to lose, ground. That doesn’t mean that there has not been progress in some areas, and that there is not cause for hope, too, but it does underscore the essentialness of the work being done on this blog.
While I am on the topic of Billmon, I remember finding his blog and reading it and liking it. (How many years ago?) My own political thinking was changing so fast and deepening so quickly as I sought to make meaning of the events swirling around me: I went from wondering why Clinton was impeached, and why the election was stolen from Gore, and reading Daily Kos, to reading Ken Knabb and Guy Debord, and devouring Wade Frazier’s whole web site, and everything Chomsky wrote, starting with his talk on “The Grand Imperial Strategy in Iraq” — 0 to 60, literally, in less than a year of very heady late night studies, and bleary-eyed mornings at work. My whole construct of the world I thought I knew, and understood so well (with the help of NPR, of course), simply fell apart under the weight of events and evidence, and that is a scary thing to face and still find the strength to get up and find direction and function again in the world. One late Poe-like night, as I was pondering all of this, I navigated over to Billmon’s old site — before success hit and reader input was disabled — and chanced upon a discussion between r’giap and theodor in the comments section, and I was hooked. I knew I found a place where more substantive discussions, often free-roaming like jazz, yet supported by theory and evidence, could form and coalesce and take place; where poetry and spirit and politics could be fused together into a new and better understanding of the world, and, yes, a humanism, as many of you have called it, could take root and grow among us. I was hooked then and there, and Bernhard, never doubt it, I still am. After “Whisky Bar,” this place has become, and remains, my touchstone for understanding current realities.
So, what are my fantasies and wishes for this blog? Like others here, it is predominantly for less change rather than more. Still, there are several things I would love to see develop. It would be great to have more people posting, but talents like r’giap and DebsIsDead, who have so much to offer the rest of us, don’t grow on trees. (Actually, I’m not sure about DiD, perhaps they do grow on trees in the antipode.) Yet, I see the task of increasing posters and viewers in a very old-fashioned way: By word of mouth, from one person to another, and I think we should all make the effort to introduce others to this place and buy them a first round, so to speak. I, too, miss the occasonal slothrop comment, but I do not miss how he was allowed to take over threads at times and insult people, and derail discussion, with an unending stream of ad-hominems.
We have posters like Uncle $cam, b real, and Bea, who often post on a particular area of expertise or interest, for them: Civil liberties, or Africa, or Palestine, as the case may be. I generally comment at length about the mechanisms for engineering consent within society. It would be great to have more posters on these topics, but also on others who specialize in areas where we are weak.
Another thing I particularly value about this water-hole is the international feel of it — despite us employing the lead imperial language in our communications, and our focussing on the most central node of empire, namely, the US. I have encouraged a friend to post on events in Latin and South America, but unfortunately, without success. It would be great to have some posters from that area of the world where so much is happening these days. The more primary sources we can develop, the better. It would also be great to have some more posters from all parts of Asia. I have asked here for an explanation of the forces behind events in Korea without success.
I believe that every nation around the world faces struggles between the perquisites of power and exception, and the forces for equality and sustainability. The more we can find out about those struggles, big and small, all over the world, the more pieces of the puzzle we can put together, and the better we can understand our species and where we are going. So, I would like to encourage anyone who knows someone who can help us in this way to introduce them to MoA and encourage them to post about their exeriences and struggles.
Besides that, yes, we should all pitch in, myself included, and add a post or two, or even more, a week, to take the enormity of the load off of b’s shoulders before he burns out.
But beyond that, be careful: Don’t fix that which is not broken. If you want fame and fortune, open up a more traditional bar where people know what they will be drinking before they cross the threshold, and can predict their level of hang-over upon leaving. But for the rest of us locals, who like a little more adventure in our libations — even if we leave to face the world with an increasing case of indigestion, and fear and trembling — things are very much as they should be in the one place in this cyberworld which remains sane by the very pedestrian, but necessary and essential, work of naming and describing the ubiquitous insanity, itself.

Posted by: Malooga | Oct 13 2007 20:38 utc | 53

b –
I totally support this site and read it regularly — I am just too depressed about the state of this nation to comment further on the incredible observations and insights documented over and over. What more is there to say? I am past saddened and feeling very dark about not only the future of the US, but the world in general. Never has rational awareness of a situation resulted in less real action to mitigate. To say that the US system has failed understates the generalized failure of the political systems in most western governments. We already know that many of the western big 8 have also used Iraq as a vehicle for enriching their own corporate fat cats. So what is there to do? Personally, I think that this is time for waiting. Things will not stay the same but will evolve and at some point there will be opportunity for meaningful action. The boil just has not ripened enough… But be assured, I continue to read here — and learn humbly from many posting who are more wise and knowledgeable. I donot know what else to do.

Posted by: Elie | Oct 13 2007 20:52 utc | 54

Annie @ #47
3afwan, You are most welcome. As You liked it, I will give You the video and You can get a translation here
Take care always, You are in my thoughts and prayers.
ma3assalaama
@ Owl
w Eid mubarak!

Posted by: n/a | Oct 13 2007 21:26 utc | 55

like malooga, i’d love to see some more detailed posts from latin & central america. what is happening there is really the only light i see. & like all things it is not homogenous. the differences between the movements in latin america are significant – between lula & chavez for example, or kirchner & morales
i’d love to read more on the political economy of communications – & we have a number of experts here on that question (theodor yve written a fabulous book – the questions you mine in it are crucial & even central questions
people like malooga sharing their physical & material realities are of significance to me – not because they are confessional indeed they transcend the confessional because the we is always present & the desire to speak & speak as beckett suggested is done from somewhere deep in all of us
we are living through a unique history – it is also true to say that many are dying in this unique history. the forces which appear to dominate late capitalism & its cousin salafist islam are but transparent & insubstantial & indeed ephemeral things but we are all paying the price of living through this epoch
when i am directed through here to dkos & other ‘like’ sites i am amazed at the insubstantiality of the ‘work’ there for the most part – substandard sidney blumenthals, chipmunk chomskys & oscar wilde as seen through ohio – the absence of information or the disassociation of that information creates a thirst – even in the midst of life – to ‘know’ & it is only here that i find that thirst shared, communicated & answered

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 13 2007 22:29 utc | 56

(My mentor emphasized to me that one must accept that the world is doomed and that we cannot personally save it, in order to have the strength and fortitude to do the day-to-day work to try and save our little piece of it.)
That certainly is an approach. I agree that we should accept that we can not personally save it (least we try the route of first gaining power, which only leads to postponing doing what you think is right for what is tactical until the day you realise that the perfect moment never comes). I have a harder time with the acceptance that the world is doomed (to what, I must ask).
Myself I kind of keep a blurred doublevision, one eye sees the world as it is heading while the other sees the ways it should be heading. Maybe that is what is giving me headaches.

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 13 2007 23:49 utc | 57

like malooga, i’d love to see some more detailed posts from latin & central america.
Is Pedro still around? Pedro from Brazil (if memory serves)?
Last time I remember seeing him here I asked where his daughter went to in Europe. I hope I did not spook him. I am sure I had some valid reason to ask that. Or some flippant reason.

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 13 2007 23:54 utc | 58

plushtown,
Have often wanted to look up past posts by given authors, but only the posts where the name isn’t a link show up in the search. Is there an HTML frame that would enable an author search?
I would use google for this. Search for the phrase “posted by: X” at site moonofalabama.org (under advanced). Only leads you to the threads though but you can use what search function your browser has (usually found under edit in the menus, or ctrl+F on standard windows applications) to find the posts within the thread. Here is a number of threads you’ve posted in.

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 14 2007 0:14 utc | 59

have a harder time with the acceptance that the world is doomed (to what, I must ask).
My belief, and no one else’s that I’ve seen so far, is that coasts will succumb to tsunamis and huge sea level rise after inevitable earthquakes under ever-lightening Greenland and/or West Antarctic glaciers. I suspect they’ll be roughly simultaneous with each other and probably with dozens of quakes worldwide (overuse “perfect storm” will you? We’ll give you more “epicenters” to use rightly than you can count!) but am not sure of that, nor of what the credit grantors will do to/with the shocked inland survivors. Might declare a Jubilee, might cast “Gidget Goes to Death Camp”. Might do both, and many things in between. They will have armies in the mideast and elsewhere trained to follow orders amid chaos.
Oh, by the Gregorian calendar, today’s the 700th anniversary of the big Templar roundup, Friday the 13th, 1307. Or if you wanted to commemorate by the Julian calendar, as was used in 1307, it will be 13 days from now, on our Friday the 26th.

Posted by: plushtown | Oct 14 2007 0:28 utc | 60

Thank you Swedish Kind for search info. Am bad/neurotic with computers. Time stamps show how slow also. Sorry my subjects are so grim. (why I use the stuffed animals, to put big eyes below too many words)

Posted by: plushtown | Oct 14 2007 0:35 utc | 61

I am taking the huge sea level rise for granted, tsunami-style or even. That train has long since left the station. The climate is a freaking huge system and we humans has been pushing it in one direction for 150 years or so. Now that it has started rolling and picking up speed, we figure it might not been the best idea and try to stop pushing so hard (Kyotoprotocolls and what not). The name of the game now is mitigation, adaptation, and freaking survival. Ok, some might see this as doomed, I see it as taking a clear look for what is coming our way. That was why I was interested in what Malooga meant by doomed, because in the scenario of melting ice and rising seas there is still room for survival.
I live on a hill and intend to keep living on ridges, hills and highlands, if not forced to do otherwise. No point in moving to the coast, it will come to me instead. And if the water receeds quickly one day, run for the hilltops.
P.S. love the stuffed animals, they are so cute…

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 14 2007 1:11 utc | 62

Latin American is almost permanently off the media radar, for two primary reasons 1) largely poor not significant producers or consumers to the global marketplace of commodities and 2)the emergence of anti-neoliberal regimes push them beyond the pale, excepting for the covert attentions of the CIA. The news that does gome through is largely critical, like just today an article in the Guardian relating that Chavez’s Stalinism comes to the fore once more in his banning of artists who were critical of him a couple of years ago. Pol Econ of communication is hard to come by, but a recent useful article by the indefatigable Mike Gonzalez can be read here:http://www.isj.org.uk/index.php4?id=138&issue=108

Posted by: theodor | Oct 14 2007 1:17 utc | 63

Briefly, when I say that we must look upon civilization as doomed, I am not making some sort of grand, albeit glancing, prognostication. Surely, I have no more idea of what will happen in the future than any of you do, although I’m willing to bet that things will not be altogether pretty.
I am merely offering up a model of non-attachment to success in “saving” anything, as the way to do activism.
Martin Luther King, among others, observed that the fights really worth fighting are the ones we are sure to lose — not forever, just now, in our short and insignificant lifetimes. Think of the fight against slavery (still ongoing in many forms), for the right to vote for women, etc.: Those fights were indeed won, at least to a significant extent, but not by the people who started the battle. Those people needed faith in the rightness of their cause to fight, but they could not be attached to saving the world, or even a small part of it. For victory, such as it was, and impermanent as it was, lay many generations ahead of those who initially raised society’s consciousness and began the struggle.
Think too of the glorious revolutions which did not last, The Paris Commune, for instance. The significence of the achievement does not pale because the success was ephemeral. Nor, was the sacrifice of those who struggled, and died for their cause, in vain.
For they, and in a similar manner, we, do not fight because we are sure we will win. We do not fight to save the world, because we, as individuals, can’t. We fight to save ourselves, whether we understand that to be in a religious manner, or agnostically, to save our consciences, our humanity, our dignity in this life. That is all we can do as humans.
It is a very small thing, but it is a very great thing.
When we think of a Paul Robeson, a Martin Luther King — the list of true heroes goes on forever, and most are anonymous to History as written by the “owners of things” — we do not think of whether they won or lost, as if they were some sort of baseball pitcher or football goalie, whose records we easily compare and debate from the comforts of our couches; we think of their natural digity and faith in their struggle, not matter what the cost was to them personally.
Life is always a struggle, and the highest form of that struggle is the struggle for peace, justice, and equality for all living beings. (It certainly beats struggling to make your first billion, or two, or whatever the pirate psychopaths of today, that Time and NPR treat with reverence, struggle for.)
I think, as I write this now, that the point I am trying to make is similar to the one Derrick Jensen made about the futility of hope. We don’t do what we do because we “hope” the world will get better; it might not, and surely some days it seems to be getting far worse. Even if things do improve, it will come on the back of the deaths, and suffering, of many of the world’s most innocent, poor, and helpless, not on the backs of the Al Gores of the world, who find a way to make a fortune by “doing good.” The Al Gores of this world can indeed expect to see a payback in this lifetime, but the peasants, campesinos, the so-called “wretched of the earth,” cannot, and yet the struggle for them, as for all of us, is the highest cause to aspire to.
The Buddhists refer to this as the Bodhisattva ideal. The Kissengers and Cheneys of the world rush to crush out the spark of unity and dignity in terror, and with terror, because they know full well that if they do not, it will spread like righteous wildfire among the parched souls of humanity.
I will amplify upon this more in another post, if anyone is interested.

Posted by: Malooga | Oct 14 2007 2:31 utc | 64

MoA is indeed a beautiful place. Thanks for everything you do, Bernhard. It’s also true that the number of first-rate commenters here is truly something to celebrate.

Posted by: Copeland | Oct 14 2007 3:00 utc | 65

As comment number 66–or so–I am glad to see, bernard, you have provoked so many responses.
You also provoke a response from me, for I have been remiss: I have not mentioned, as I ought to have done before, but will say now that this is one of my favorite blogs, which I visit every couple of days or so. I greatly appreciate your excellent work.
In my own life, I have been posting less, generally, and reading blogs everywhere with more of a tendency to skim. It seems that in one sense there is not much happening: The crises that have been predicted by alert people for over a year now are indeed starting to unfold–as predicted! These days I feel like I am running down a checklist: Housing bubble popping and market crash?–check; Housing foreclosures up?–check; Bad debts leading to banking crises and failures?–just starting–check; Start of dollar hyperinflation?–kudos to those who guessed that Bernanke would destroy the dollar to save his friends!–check; Turkey invades Kurdish Iraq?–it all depends on what the meaning of invades is!–check; desertification in the First World boosts food prices?–ahead of schedule–check; Oil rises again after a modest but much ballyhooed decline–again this month!–check; Global warming accelerates?–ahead of schedule with Arctic summer ice down 30% from its previous all-time low, and Greenland melting if anything faster than the Himalayas–check.
Et cetera.
I am not complaining–checking in on the news is necessary. But the trend of events is now so thoroughly predictable and so thoroughly bad, that we need to look ahead to the inevitable crash that lies ahead and ask, not how do we prevent it (that window has closed, some years ago now, but) how do we wish to try getting through it? Although trends are boringly predictable right now, they end in a disaster that is both arduous and completely chaotic.
In the US, Democrats are just starting to wonder if they are being betrayed by their leaders, who in fact just keep enabling the Republican crime syndicate–well du-uh! It is painful to read such innocent angst. So I am trying to get my thoughts to move a step ahead. For example, in the US, the collapse of industrial agriculture is of interest to a few gardeners and cranks–despite accelerating oil prices and persistent weather patterns of drought. In short, we are totally asleep. Well, what is the rest of the world thinking about this stuff?
Keep posting!
Thanks.

Posted by: Gaianne | Oct 14 2007 4:13 utc | 66

Thank you Bernhard for the great work. I am a regular lurker and hope you will continue your writing.

Posted by: Fran | Oct 14 2007 5:17 utc | 67

deanander’s emergency wormcasting network

Posted by: b real | Oct 14 2007 6:20 utc | 68

@Malooga (#53): I have asked here for an explanation of the forces behind events in Korea without success.
What do you want? If you were talking to me, then talk to me… but I didn’t see any of your previous requests. I try to read every word here when I can, but I do miss things occasionally. There’s a link to my email address at the end of each of my posts and I assure you that it does work.
If there’s something “on the ground” to report here, I’ll report it. I just don’t want to write up lengthy posts about how there is still nothing going on as I did here. Yes, there was a move (yet again) to formalize an end to the hostilities between the North and South. Roh Moo-hyun is a lame-duck who will be replaced by year’s end and his meeting with Kim Jung-il two weeks ago was a giant “Fuck you!” aimed directly at Washington, D.C. I’ll remind you that Kim Jong-il had almost precisely this same meeting with Roh’s predecessor, Kim Dae-jung, in 1994. There’s nothing new about this situation except that the North and South have agreed to compete as a unified country in the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. Make of that what you will… it hasn’t bothered too many people here in the South.
Are you asking if North and South Korea are finally ready to end 54 years of not fighting? They were ready for that 54 years ago. There are three primary factors that are keeping this peninsula divided: U.S. interests, decades of internalized propaganda efforts and concerns about how unification would affect the South’s presently robust economy. Ask Bernhard if repatriating poor and rich families works in practice. It’s outside my realm of expertise.
As for the rest of the Moon, the total number of comments have been down because certain trolls (whom I, for one, do not miss in the least) haven’t been cluttering things up by baiting people and generally attention whoring. The comment count does not bother me, but I have never been one who is comfortable sacrificing quality for quantity.

Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 14 2007 6:57 utc | 69

As always, thank you Monolycus.
I had no idea what they were singing, but, Damn, after watching that ‘DPRK Is Invincible’ vid, I wanted to stand and sing out with em…lmao!

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 14 2007 7:15 utc | 70

Yeah, Unca, you should hear them cover ABBA’s “Dancing Queen”. It’s toe-tapping goodness.

Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 14 2007 7:29 utc | 71

@#56: substandard sidney blumenthals, chipmunk chomskys & oscar wilde as seen through ohio
Speaking as a native Buckeye, that analogy chafes a bit. We had a knock-down, drag-out fight on this site once before when Unca linked to a Joe Bageant piece defending these very “salt of the Earth” sorts we “enlightened” folk so love to sneer at. I don’t think you do the cause any good with the implicit academic elitism, but the last time I suggested that we might be a tad divisive and counter productive with the snobbery, I had my ass handed to me by affronted snobs.

Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 14 2007 8:42 utc | 72

Thank you Malooga,
now I think I grok it. We must count on loosing and still fight.
We fight to save ourselves, whether we understand that to be in a religious manner, or agnostically, to save our consciences, our humanity, our dignity in this life. That is all we can do as humans.
Totally agree. Besides it feels good to fight back.

Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 14 2007 11:02 utc | 73

Bernhard,
Nagyon kösönöm sépen! – in Budapest these days, on to Croatia next week – but still manage to check in with MoA several times a day – been a busy travelling year. So many posters at MoA get links, etc. up before I can and I have been posting less, but reading all the time, every day, several times a day. I depend on your site for info, analysis, sanity.
Nearly daily I remark to bun that you are brilliant, spot on with some post, collecting disparate sources for an insightful take – you were miles ahead of anyone else on the Israel attack on Syria, which I’m just today seeing any analysis of on the front page of NYT. And I think your writing/analysis has just gotten better and better.
One topic I’d like to learn more from posters at MoA is the global bubble economy as it relates to the “carry trade” w/Japan, the deindustrialization of the “west”, the rise of China, comparative FOREX reserves, global shift of power to China, Russia, Gulf states, etc.
Again, thanks to you b, and all the posters.
Hamburger

Posted by: Hamburger | Oct 14 2007 11:52 utc | 74

monolycus
i was simply suggesting that i get very little for a dkos site with their one line witticisms nor their breaking news hysteria. in fact other than those post that either a conchita or an uncle point out to me i see no quality at all
we have our off days here, me more than most – but the level of quality has remained significantly high
& actually i am not an academic, all my life i have lived closer to the gutter than i do to the stars

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 14 2007 13:06 utc | 75

Monolycus,
Is there a lot of snobbery on MoA? No-one here has much truck with the common denominator, but one of the things that makes this such a very, very different place is that everyone makes an effort: writing is difficult, and writing well is extremely difficult (speaking from experience, that is: I earn my living from writing, and weeks can go by without a single word I like appearing on the screen). If there is an elitism here, it is purely that the contributors – and are we as diverse as the Kossacks? Maybe – strive to communicate in depth and detail. If being articulate makes one an elitist, then we’re all doomed…
Not a personal dig at you AT ALL, Mono – you are one of the people who makes this place such a treasure.

Posted by: Tantalus | Oct 14 2007 14:01 utc | 76

B,
You keep at it. This is a really great blog. What happened to Billmon can happen to any of us and we simply can’t allow that. I write political poetry and just the last week or so I’ve been bleak from the enormity of the blackness around us. Cernig at Newshoggers calls it “Lying Bastard Fatigue Syndrome.” My wife pointed my to an article on Beethoven who apparently had a 5 year slump as a result of his outrage at the Metternich reaction after 1815, then came back and wrote his late phase in protest. We all have to keep at it. Malooga, that post at 64 is inspirational, more please. Gives me a much needed jump start.

Posted by: John Shreffler | Oct 14 2007 14:15 utc | 77

R’giap: i was simply suggesting that i get very little for a dkos site with their one line witticisms nor their breaking news hysteria. in fact other than those post that either a conchita or an uncle point out to me i see no quality at all
Agreed.
we have our off days here, me more than most – but the level of quality has remained significantly high
Also agreed, with a caveat about you being off “more than most”. I hadn’t noticed that.
& actually i am not an academic, all my life i have lived closer to the gutter than i do to the stars
We have quite a lot in common. I was just chafing at the remark about Ohio, really. It really was a beautiful place at one time and being a Buckeye was a favorable distinction. Change is a constant, I suppose.
I also realize how it might seem hypocritical of me in one breath to say that I prefer quality to quantity while in the next complaining about how snobbery is divisive and we should embrace our unwashed brethren. But, damn it, I believe that if we ever want to be more than an echo chamber impotently bemoaning the state of mankind, we have to acknowledge the role we play. We ARE mankind, even if we like to think we are somehow a species apart from those dreaded Republicans and NASCAR fans.
B linked to a wonderful Frank Rich essay in the most recent open thread about The ‘Good Germans’ Among Us (I’m re-linking here due to relevance). Rich describes a phenomenon we are all familar with: Those who enable others by burying their heads in the sand. There’s a variation of that, though. Some people bitch and, in doing so, seem to feel that this absolves them of the ‘Good German’ label. It’s a variation of the bumper sticker that says “Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos.” In other words, by making it clear that the person recognizes the state of affairs, they absolve themselves of any blame as well as the ‘Good German’ label. I’ve written about this before, and it’s not worth re-hashing now because I am not accusing anyone here of engaging in it.
But there’s another side to this self-styled absolution that is dangerous… and, again, I have written about it before. That is when our attempts to assuage ourselves that we are not part of the problem are so… well, off-putting, that we turn others away from being part of the solution. We are no longer passively empowering our enemies when we do that; we are actively empowering them. We need to examine our motives and explore contingencies when we feel the need to resort to shock and/or outrage to make ourselves heard (This is, incidentally, also why I didn’t feel that nasty little troll who is currently taking a break was just a harmless diversion).
Do we do more harm than good? Sometimes, I believe we might. The right-wing does not give a hoot in hell about the welfare of the poor, but they are the least hypocritical about it. When US servicemen lash out at their detractors and claim that they were protecting liberties, one wonders whose liberties they might possibly be referring to… certainly not the free speech of their detractors. More often than not, these detractors are poor. Similarly, when we on the left dismiss the Kossacks (and, Lord, it’s easy to do), one is left to wonder whose civil liberties and human rights it is that we are interested in. Certainly not our own comrades on the left whom we feel are misguided, nor again those on the right. So where is this mass of humanity we were ostensibly interested in helping? We’ve run them off for not being up to par. Annie recently wrote: “where do we focus when we look outside of ourselves, how far is the reach? for some people their empathy may be limited to their family, their race, their country, those that share the same political leaning.” Do we only focus on helping those we like or are we actually trying to redeem Republicans, Israelis, and the whole kit and caboodle of fellow human beings (This would include those unfortunate comrades of ours on the left who were born, through no fault of their own, without a trace of talent or insight)?
Once again, this is a scattershot and I am not accusing any specific person of any specific thing.
Oh, and by the way, Plushtown, I adore your chosen medium. Keep up the good work!

Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 14 2007 14:23 utc | 78

Oh yes, I want to thank the Host (B) for things like photographs, art, etc. For me that helps keep the mix fresh.
It is fun to hear the heavy intellectuals here comment on the non-rational. But, I come here for the world class analysis, B. I am sorry I don’t have the time to do situation papers like you seem to so easily spin off. I’m a second or third rate intellectual, but I love reading and cheering you folks.
My international interests are mainly the middle-east (Syria down to Egypt), and closer to home here in the U.S., our North American trade agreements.
Have a lovely weekend, you Moonshiners!

Posted by: Jake | Oct 14 2007 14:30 utc | 79

@Tantalus:
You posted that while I was in the process of composing the above ramble or I would have responded immediately.
Is there snobbery? Sometimes. I’m not trying to be too self-referential or cryptic, but a lot of my comments above have arisen as the direct result of some personal grudges I’ve been nursing for awhile. No worries.
As for contributors here expressing themselves well; I agree. There’s a level of sophistication of thought and expression here that’s sorely lacking elsewhere. I think, though, that this sophistication is self-evident and contrasting what we do here with what others do elsewhere isn’t necessary. I think it would be best if we led by example (as we do, for the most part) and let others discover for themselves how discourse can be managed.

Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 14 2007 14:31 utc | 80

Monolycus:
I think, though, that this sophistication is self-evident and contrasting what we do here with what others do elsewhere isn’t necessary.Absolutely. The last thing we want is a “Don’t blame me, I read MoA” mentality (magnetic ribbons, though – could be lucrative) but I had to give a howl of gratitude, especially to b.

Posted by: Tantalus | Oct 14 2007 14:49 utc | 81

it’s important that what happens here is sometimes far from consensual – that we are different more or less most of our prejudices are out in the open – i think the fury of the first year here at moon created a sort of ‘rupture epistemomogique’ with a certain kind of posting
i’m with tantalus on this – when i compare the rapidity of response of b & the thoughtful but tough inteventions of b real – i am in awa a little – knowing as tantalus does how difficult it is to get those words going where you want them to
& precisely because i was a polemicist so young (an admission here – when i was very young i was a part of an artistic collective that the party wanted absorbed into another cadre organisation & i was ordered to write an essay which i can still recall, was in its maoist highfever called ‘on the contradiction between two lines’ when there was no contradiction or many, no lines or many – it was an exercide in style in the same sense that i would criticise a l f celine for being a ‘stylist’) – what slothrop would call my sentimental & affective humanism – is simply trying to speak as clearly as possible
& connecting it always to what i actually do & witness in my day to day life
i suppose in relation to other posters i’m as hungry today as i was when i was 14 for information – age doesn’t weary that & the post here take me to sources, to information, to knowledge i would not find alone or would take a disproportionate length of time
monolycus, i guess i am guilty of some binary thinking sometimes – but i would suggest in defence – that it is necessary for me to draw lines – i suppose an example of that was my insistence on the crimes of empire, on the immediate beneficiaries of the crime, the nature of the perpetrators etc with slothrop – to the point where it must have been as subtle as a sledgehammer – but i thought the line was being muddied, that there was an absence of listening & a ‘contest’ was being established & to quote the female character in roeg’s magnificent film ‘bad timing’ – “i don’t know if i want what i have let alone the things you have” – i’m not remembering the line clearly but she is telling the garfunkel character that she can do without the burdenn of being him that it was tough enough being her. sloth’s vehemence in absenting the crimes, attacking notions of empire etc etc forced a kind of crudity & violence in me that isn’t characteristic
other than that it seems to me essential – that we post in whatever state we find ourselves in – in fury, in melancholy, in questionnement, in doubt & that there are others here who can anchor our fragments
i was just remembering something walter benjamin sd of albert berg the composer on his death – that his despair anulled the negativity of this world

Posted by: r’giap | Oct 14 2007 17:31 utc | 82

Been reading your work since billmon’s time and its exactly what i want it to be.
don’t change a thing.

Posted by: shershahsuri | Oct 14 2007 18:52 utc | 83

Malooga @ 53 —
You said it very well – and that is about what happened to me. I thought I knew enough to figure out how politics worked, and then had to re-educate myself, after the Iraq war started, and I realized I had no real clue. Re-examinng basic premises has led me far from my original thinking. The various blogs were extremely helpful, and “Moon” continues to be that.
Bernhard, just one suggestion — please, regular information about the woman street musician in Germany?

Posted by: Owl | Oct 15 2007 3:23 utc | 84

swedish kind of death, #62: Ok, some might see this as doomed, I see it as taking a clear look for what is coming our way. That was why I was interested in what Malooga meant by doomed, because in the scenario of melting ice and rising seas there is still room for survival.
I live on a hill and intend to keep living on ridges, hills and highlands, if not forced to do otherwise. No point in moving to the coast, it will come to me instead. And if the water receeds quickly one day, run for the hilltops.

There is always room for survival, but soon not on a coast. Problem is not melting of ice, stressed by our shepherds, but sliding, pushed by inevitable earthquakes, publicly ignored by them.
If you own coastal real estate, realize that any time our leaders want an induced sell-off all they have to do is have a celebrity or businessman state the obvious and your neighbours will try to sell to 0 buyers. The good news is, they probably don’t want such a panic. Fish stocks will be restored and consumers consumed much more elegantly if the whole visible species remains in denial.
My guess is that you want to be at least 300′ above sea level, and more is better. Ice totals, including estimates of 160′ from the non-melting/increasing East Antarctic and 20′ and 21′ respectively from the melting West Antarctic and Greenland would suggest a little over 200′ would suffice, but it must be hard to estimate East Antarctica’s glacial weight/potential displacement, and land worldwide may be toppled into ocean as well.
An NY Times article last May about Waterbury Ct ( 215’-865’ above current sea level ) makes me think the neighbourhood north of downtown called Hillside is probably ultimately dry, as is the evangelical Holy Land (former) amusement park on still higher ground. Similarly, Kiryas Joel in NY state is also only about 30 miles inland, but 850′ above current sea level. I doubt the hoi polloi of either devout group have a clue as to why inland is good, but this quote seems prescient: “the Rabbi Ahron Kaufman, who spearheaded the migration here, said that while growing up in New York, he had “never even heard of Waterbury, and Connecticut — what was that?”
Now he talks of it as the golden land, a sly smile spreading across his face, as if he were letting an interloper in on a secret. “This is the best of every world,” he said. “A city, the suburbs and the bungalows in the Catskills, all wrapped into one.”

And, at article end:
Rabbi Kaufman, 48, an ebullient man who sees the building of the Orthodox community in Waterbury as a personal mission, takes particular pride in Ingenious Productions, a fledgling film company that has made movies for several Jewish organizations and a three-part spoof called “Rabbis” for the yeshiva.
As Yossi Reichmann, 23, and Moshe Bree, 22, two filmmakers, sat in his office one afternoon, Rabbi Kaufman prodded them a bit about their future.
“You know, you could really make it,” Rabbi Kaufman said, another grin on his face.
“We know, we know,” Mr. Bree said.
“And,” Rabbi Kaufman said, his eyes gleaming, “you could set up a film company in Waterbury, bring in all kinds of business.”
Mr. Reichmann looked far more skeptical.
“Um, well,” he said, “I don’t know that Waterbury will ever be the center of the film industry.
said the one without the “grin” and “gleaming” eyes.
In my 35 years in the used book business I’ve bought from guys who sensibly left Europe in the 30’s and talked with them about why they evacuated while friends and relatives did not. I’ve also looked at thousands of titles from the 20’s and 30’s (periods of better quality book production) for signs conscious and unconscious of cataclysms to come. Clues, hints, ironies abound.
I hesitate to put such here, the charge of anti-semitism being such a poisoned sword, but organized devout groups will be very useful as functionaries to the irreligious tippy-top. Evangelicals will be the other big yahoo pool, but sufficient #’s of them will already be inland.
Oh, from yesterday’s NYT: these 75,000 Syrian Jews will all be dead, their wealth and power gone, as will the money of Hollywood, Florida, unwarned London, and all coasts.
If anyone wants Waterbury article e-mailed because too old to be free, e-mail me.

Posted by: plushtown | Oct 15 2007 11:47 utc | 85

Many thanks for all you do, all of you.
And please continue.
I am immensely grateful for the insights and commentary on this blog.
And b., accolades and all my deep gratitude always.
Thank you. Thank you.

Posted by: Fighting Bob | Oct 16 2007 3:11 utc | 86

Just wanted to add my endorsement for b’s work, and agreement that the general quality of the material put up for discussion here is the best that I know of on the net. There are many contributors who leave me in a state of happy ambivalence: they have such interesting things to say and state them with such elegance or passion that I have a strong desire to meet them in person, and yet I fear such a meeting since it would introduce the all-too-human elements of physicality to what, in this ethereal sphere, remains a purely intellectual-emotive exchange. I attribute that “ethereal” quality to b’s stimulation and guidance. (And by guidance I certainly include his prerogative to escort trolls to the bar door.)
As to b’s “moving to the left”, I see no problem as long as “reasonable rightists” and/or anarchists can also feel at home here.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 16 2007 10:23 utc | 87

Boy, did I miss the boat on this one. Been incommunicado but b, don’t change a thing.
FUCK BUSH!!
[wink to askod]

Posted by: beq | Oct 17 2007 8:33 utc | 88