Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 1, 2007
Stings and Plea Bargains

Idaho Sen. Larry Craig resigned Saturday over a men’s room sex sting, bowing to pressure from fellow Republicans worried about a scandal dimming their election prospects.
[…]
Craig’s resignation completed a stunning downfall that began Monday with the disclosure that he pleaded guilty to a reduced charge following his arrest during a sex sting in a Minneapolis airport men’s room.
Sen. Craig resigns over sex sting

That’s ok. He is a hypocrite who several times voted against gay people’s interest. There are too many such hypocrites around. The Republicans only pushed him out to lessen the damage to themselves and only because they are sure that the Republican governeur of Idaho will send them an adequate partisan replacement.

But aside from the politics, the case let me think about the differences between the U.S. and old Europe, i.e. Germany. Again they are bigger than I first thought. This in the social sphere as well as in the legal realm. 

The mayor of Hamburg (rightwing) is openly gay as is the mayor of Berlin (leftwing). At political-social gatherings the leader of the German liberal democrats is usually accompanied by his same sex partner. Exept for a few hillbillies and some catholic bishops (hypocrites themselves), nobody cares about it.

More generally, talk about sexcapades of politicians is frowned upon. Over some beer journalists will tell you all the juicy stories, but they don’t print them. Using one’s political opponent private sexual doings to smear him/her, usually ends with a backlash. (People here were disgusted by the Clinton affair. Not about the sucking or the cigar – who cares, but how such private stuff could be pulled into open court.)

U.S. conservatives often proclaim their ‘christian nation’. Luke 6:41 says: "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? …"

What is Craig supposed to be guilty of? Looking for contact with a consenting adult? An attempt to abet someone for sex?

On the legal side the sting operation is strange to me. Such tricks are forbidden here because they are so easy to abuse. What can be abused, will be abused. Legally they are seen as "seducement to a punishable act" and are crimal acts themselves. 

A plea bargaining is, if I understand this correct, a deal in which a defendant pleads guilty to a lesser charge and the prosecutor in return drops more serious charges. This is not possible in the German system. A charge is a charge and can not simply be dropped or exchanged for another one.

Deals can be done over a voluntary confession in exchange for a lesser penalty or probation. But they don’t change the accusation. Any deal needs to be done in front of a judge and the defendant must have a (public) lawyer. The reason is again possible abuse.

In the U.S. 90 percent of all cases are settled by plea bargaining.

How many who struck such deals were not guilty? How many prosecutors routinely charge higher crimes just to induce pleas for lower ones thereby juicing up the statistics that show them being ‘tough on crime’?

How many plead guilty to a lesser charge to avoid the chance of being judged guilty for a bigger crime they might not have committed at all? (Plea bargaining can be a real ‘prisoner’s dilemma’ for the defendant.)

The Craig case was a he said/he said situation that any good lawyer would have slashed down in front of a court. Craig was dumb not to use that chance. But it was also unfair to offer a plea to him without demanding him to consult a lawyer first.

Per capita the U.S. has the highest rate of prisoners in the world. Maybe people in the U.S. are simply more criminal than elsewhere. Then again, the public pressure for ‘successful’ policemen and prosecutors, ‘successful’ measured by numbers of ‘guilty’ pleas, may give them the wrong incentive. Sting operations and plea bargains may give them the wrong instruments.

Only a few countries use stings and only few have, much more restricted, plea bargains at all. Some argue pleas are needed as it would be too costly to give everybody a trial. But good and fair prosecution and trials may even be cheaper than to build more and more prisons.

Senator Craig leaves for the wrong reason. He is a hypocrite and should leave in shame because he hurt gay people. He should not leave for being gay and because of abusive tools in the hand of the police and prosecutors.

Comments

his fine was small, as was the charge. if we want to change laws like that we should get rid of homophobic senators that pass such restricting laws.
oh yeah, we just did

Posted by: annie | Sep 1 2007 20:38 utc | 1

b
i wouldn’t worry so much about the end of jurisprudence in those united states. it is already a form of depravity in itself. all bourgeois law has one role – to protect property & that is how it has remained. american jurisprudence has always been an affair of men – white men. the jurist of intellectual weight are few & far between this century – thurgood marshall & felix frankfurter being exceptions to that – one was a black – the other jewish. these two men added to our knowledge of jurisprudence & to a more just america – but in effect today they are little more than the nazi judge freisler – screaming & harrassing the defendants while building a prison industry that would make the chinese blush

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 1 2007 21:19 utc | 2

@bernard good to see someone else feels the same way about this. Pity neither of us live in amerika but you get that.
Peeps can call Craig a hypocrite but on the basis of motes and eyes and stuff they need to consider their own hypocrisy.
It seems to be a prevalent view amongst the left in amerika that marginalised people suchs as blacks and gays don’t belong in conservative politics, that they should be so grateful for all the good works done them by the left (yeah right! irony intended) that they only think left.
In other words ‘we’ (we meaning we of the left) have loosened the shackles a little and in return we chain you to us.
Craig wasn’t a standout gay basher from what I understand, he voted the party line on gay issues, probably from self-protection as much as anything else so there is no huge double standard here. Maybe if he had been caught fucking a tree he would deserve lampooning since he is an anti-environment zealot by all accounts. Duly elected by other anti-environment zealots.
Is that what this is? Only those who agree with the left should be allowed to hold office? It is just too difficult to convince people to vote ‘correctly’ so let’s just let em vote then negate it on a sexual technicality. Err isn’t what we often hear is the basis for for complaint about the way the rethugs do things? Ohh I get it! It’s OK for ‘us’ but not for them.
In principle I have no problem with a decision by those on the humane side of amerikan politics to wash their hands of the whole shonky process and grab a gun and hit the streets with the comrades, to sort it out. But this way is a weak assed, mealy-mouthed way of resisting. Born out of double dealing now, imagine how bad it would be by the time power began to corrupt.
As for the tawdry little entrapment at the airport – Imagine for a moment that the bloke on the receiving end wasn’t a rethug senator, but was a current victim du jour like an arab-amerikan. Everyone would be convinced that it wasn’t the foot tapping or the wide stance which got the bloke in trouble, it was the turban or the beard or the arabic visage.
That is the real crime here. That law enforcement in a nation with a murder, rape and assault rate that should be the country’s greatest priority, is sitting in the stall of a shitter waiting to see if anyone will play footsie with him. If Craig or an Arab-amerikan or anyone else had got it on with the butch, blonde narcissist copper in stall 3, would the world have ended ? Would anyone have even noticed, much less cared? It sounds to me from the precautions ‘n all that gay blokes in amerika have to screw on tippy toe, always being careful not to wake the neigbours. Now that is both sad and a crime.
I must admit I’m not a big fan of overt sexual activity in the public bogs, after all most of us go in there to splash the boots, not play with other blokes bottoms, but I have also noticed that in countries where most sexual acts between consenting adults is legal, there seems to be less weird noises coming from the stall in the corner where the light bulb is permanently ‘broken’, fewer ‘glory holes’ carved into the woodwork or arcane grafitti about buggery across the walls, than there is in repressed societies such as amerika.
It isn’t even as if by getting rid of Craig any greater purpose will be served – that the end could justify the means. The conservatives of whatever state he represents will vote for a different conservative male, one they can be ‘more sure of’ and all that will have been accomplished will have been to ensure that the rethug party is peopled by conservative middle aged, middle class males who conform in every way with no divergence. That’s meant to be a good thing?

Posted by: Debs is Dead | Sep 1 2007 21:36 utc | 3

Hypocrisy, hypocrisy, How easy is to throw that word around particularly about people we don’t know anything about like “Catholic bishops” Is the knowledge of the law the same as the actively carrying of its provisions? Does it mean that when B crosses a thoroughfare under a red light he is a hypocrite? Non sense , the knowledge of the law is not the same as the ability of obeying it. What I want to do I don’t do and what I do I don’t want to do. Larry Craig I suppose was overwhelmed by the weight of his flesh but that has nothing to do with his ability to see what is right or wrong. He gave in in a moment, that is all, and we all give in constantly. What is intolerable or should be is that the public powers entice, tempt people to commit crimes. That is what is an abomination. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. If I am a thief does that mean that I have to condone stealing? Where has this idea arisen that in order to command one has to be blameless. I understand Craig but I don’t understand the State that is supposed to be the ethical substance in which we live. What is the difference between a drug pusher and a police pusher even if it is in the sordid conditions of an airport urinary?

Posted by: jlcg | Sep 2 2007 0:26 utc | 4

Very interesting article. I wished it would have been cross-posted on an American blog.
There seems to be a whole industry of “newsmakers on MSNBC”, who use sting operation set-ups in front of live cameras to catch sex predators. I think they must make a good profit with the viewing rates they get for this stuff. I can’t imagine that something like that would be allowed at all over in Europe.
Sorry for my ignorance, but is this a blog written by an American living in Germany or a German living in Germany. Do you consider this an American blog or a German one? I am confused. Never thought bernhard would be a German. Would you mind giving me a hint? Thanks.

Posted by: mimi | Sep 2 2007 1:29 utc | 5

Very interesting article. I wished it would have been cross-posted on an American blog.
There seems to be a whole industry of “newsmakers on MSNBC”, who use sting operation set-ups in front of live cameras to catch sex predators. I think they must make a good profit with the viewing rates they get for this stuff. I can’t imagine that something like that would be allowed at all over in Europe.
Sorry for my ignorance, but is this a blog written by an American living in Germany or a German living in Germany. Do you consider this an American blog or a German one? I am confused. Never thought bernhard would be a German. Would you mind giving me a hint? Thanks.

Posted by: mimi | Sep 2 2007 1:30 utc | 6

@ mimi – German living in Germany. As to an American blog or a German one, that, I think is irrelevant.

Posted by: beq | Sep 2 2007 1:45 utc | 7

I strongly suspect that the secret permanent government has the goods on EVERYBODY at the level of congressman or governor (and up) — and business Poo-Bahs, too. After all, one needs a responsive government, doesn’t one? (I suppose Gannon’s nightly visits to the White House were only meant to plumb Bush’s level of responsiveness, which, when found slightly wanting, were “piqued” by letting the cat out of the uncredentialed journalistic bag.)
Besides, control on this “private” level allows the rest of our society to function more efficiently, with greater visible openness — a lesson the Communists never completely grasped. (Just more evidence that the Washington Consensus/Davos gang really do understand the meaning of progress.)
Why this particular incident on this particular person, this Senator, at this time, I don’t know; many interpretations are possible.
At one point, many moons ago, when I lived in New York City, I became friends with a neighbor across the hall in one apartment building I lived in — a very cute young transsexual who was paying her way through sexual reassignment surgery by taking part in the high-end sex trade (ply-to-pay, not pay-to-ply ;-). I remember going to a party one evening at her flat, filled with all her friends in a similar place in life. Late at night, when everyone else had gone, the discussion turned to who had slept with who lately — literally the names of many of the most powerful people in the world (including one or two one would still recognize from the Middle East) were dropping right and left — and what they were into, whether they were “icky” or not, and how much they tipped. I will not name names here, but I must admit it was very eye-opening, and jaw-dropping.
None of this is so surprising considering that, in our capitalistic society, even in the relatively well-to-do USA of thirty years ago, a very significant percentage of our attractive young population engages in the sex trade to either pay for an education, or otherwise pay for what they want, or need. And here I am only referring to those who engage in the trade voluntarily. Many more are forced involuntarily. (There were many neighborhoods of Manhattan where it was hard to sleep on a summer evening because of the continual sounds of the street girls fighting with their pimps.) And we are all well aware of the unctious Nicholas Krystoff spending NYTimes account money to buy a few Nepalese girls out of sex slavery, caused by a society torn asunder from structural adjustment — the really important relationship he neglected to report about.
Of course the sex trade, like most of our society, is completely segregated by class. That is what is most surprising about Craig’s entrapment: Senator “Wide-stance” was simply in the wrong “class” of stalls altogether.
But then, capitalism always claims its victims from all walks of life — it is, to a greater extent than most of us realize, an equal opportunity corrupter and destroyer.
It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone that in our repressed Calvinistic society, for the ruling class, sex is just another commodity, another “need” to be satisfied through shopping. That such “needs” would involve long-term comparison shopping should not be surprising either — it can be hard to make a decision on a “big-ticket” item, if you know what I mean; the bigger the “ticket,” the more one must try things out before cumming to a decision. That fear is often an inducement to out-of-control risk-taking shopping sprees can only be underscored and validated by Bush’s timely appearance reminding us all to shop and engage in fantasy (Disney World) in the aftermath of 9/11. And one doesn’t need a psychologist like Justin Frank, author of “Bush on the Couch,” to realize that the more one projects power and violence in one’s professional life the more one seeks a reciprocal balance in one’s private life. Just the laws of nature; and we all know that nature can be quite kinky when it wants to.
Now, I don’t care what anyone does in their private life, either. I think it is healthy at a certain age to try things out and explore your sexuality, and I am certainly glad that I came of age before AIDS. But I am currently reading a book by Brazilian theologian Leonardo Boff about St. Francis, where he decries the lack of TRUE Eros in this world (no wonder he was disciplined with a year of silence!)– and I certainly agree with him on that. (In this sense, Eros can also be defined as the longing for wholeness or completeness, and is used to describe fulfillment between man/woman and man/Gods.)
I do agree with b that entrapment of any sort is a facist tactic, not “law enforcement.” And I do agree with our esteemed comrade, r’giap, that the Law is just a very particular form of Cultural Hegemony. When a rich person falls from grace, we are encouraged by our media (emotional mediator is perhaps a better term) to empathize with that person’s plight, as in a Greek tragedy. In the case of the poor, we are plied with programs like Fox’s “COPS” — a complete sexual orgy of Calvinistic denigration of our “defective” underclass, barely human creatures who are best wiped of the face of the earth for our safety.
Well, be that as it may, that’s the “Law,” but where’s the justice?

Posted by: Malooga | Sep 2 2007 2:32 utc | 8

I think Europe as a whole is much more cilivized than we here in the US. Hypocrisy seems to be a virtue here nowdays. Shame

Posted by: Ben | Sep 2 2007 4:09 utc | 9

@b & Debs is Dead:
I think you underestimate the extent to which the Republican party is effectively monolithic in the U.S. If you pay attention to what they do, instead of what they say, pretty much any Republican is identical to any other. There are occasional differences between Democratic politicians — not as many as I’d like, really — but effectively nada within the Republican ranks. (The sole exception is their area of origin, and then it’s only a matter of substituting one location for another.)
Conservatives mutter about how “Bush is not a real conservative” and how the Republican party has lost its soul (as though it ever had one!) but when it comes down to it, they defend him, and they all voted for him, twice. Who cares whether they have some theoretical differences with the neocons if they all act the same way?
So yes, I think it perfectly okay to castigate Craig for being a hypocrite. His sexual orientation is only incidental; he helped erect (no pun intended) laws against behavior in which he desired to partake, and he helped to foster the right-wing agenda within the U.S. which sees forced closeting as only the first step in how to “deal” with gay people. If he hadn’t been caught, he would still be doing it. He is hoist by his own petard, and I’m glad to see it happening. If only we could see more of it — say, for example, lots of drug-related arrests among the right wing, or lots of arrests for sexual and financial misconduct among the right-wing clergy– oh, wait, we are getting that last one.

Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Sep 2 2007 4:50 utc | 10

I don’t see this as entrapment. This was a public bathroom that had numerous complaints about it directed at the police department. How else can they stop this behaviour than by posting an undercover officer? There is no other way. Children use these bathrooms and they should not be subjected to that kind of behaviour especially when accompanied by only the mother that cannot go in there with him.

Posted by: Sam | Sep 2 2007 5:22 utc | 11

I suspect Jane Hamsher and Firedoglake got it right…
“Larry Craig thus becomes a powerful lesson to anyone in the party who might think of crossing the Boy King, be it over the war or FISA or anything else: do so at your own peril.”
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/01/larry-craig-gone-but-not-forgotten/

Posted by: SimplyLurking | Sep 2 2007 5:31 utc | 12

Craig is a smooth stone sinking in a pond, its ripples gone.
Meanwhile, BushCo opened the flood gates for foreign trucking and the nascent WalMart-NAFTA freeway from Mexico to Canada (it’s not this: http://modeshift.org/?p=136, it’s this: http://www.nascocorridor.com/), bringing cheap Chinese sh-t into America, and stealing grains and meat products back out; Bush has pablumed the easy-credit con with taxpayer bailouts, ensuring continued housing asset inflation, so that soon young couples will be looking at a national median home price over $500,000, and rents over $1,000, e.g. millions of homeless crowding the freeway offramps and grocery dumpsters; and BushCo’s pushed health care for the 43M uninsured US back on the poor states, most of which haven’t two nickels to rub together, once you look at their public employee retirement.
All that in the same week you’all were crooning over Craig.
The Great Satan is dancing over Jesus’s bones tonight.

Posted by: Gerbil Moffet | Sep 2 2007 6:10 utc | 13

plea-bargaining raises serious questions. Likewise subjecting defendants to more serious charges if they refuse to cooperate (i.e snitch).
these measures disregard the indispensable notion of balance in the judicial system. As they instituitionalize the notion of society permanently under siege.
it may be too obvious to mention, but race is the historical reason for the attittudes towards justice that lead to these type evolutions.
the same applies to the death penalty.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Sep 2 2007 6:13 utc | 14

And either Gonzalez or Rove or both had their hands on the Gestapo action.
No wonder Bush is crooning. He serves his constituency better than any other President ever has.

Posted by: Malooga | Sep 2 2007 6:18 utc | 15

http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/05jul/images/pal4.gif
NASCO built. Can you spell M-E-T-A-S-T-A-T-S-I-S?

Posted by: Paul Ringwood | Sep 2 2007 6:22 utc | 16

@Sam – 11 – How else can they stop this behaviour than by posting an undercover officer?
Have some uniformed policemen patrol there once a while?
Or if one wants a real conservative market solution: License a gay sex-shop with an attached discret and comfortable darkroom within the airport. Entrance fee $1 per 15 minutes, condoms included, and age restricted to 18+. Beer $3 a can, champagne and caviar depending on available sources …
The weird thing – I am not aware of any public toilet here that has such a community. Except, maybe, in certain obvious pubs. Why is that?
@mimi – 6 – Do you consider this an American blog or a German one? I am confused. Never thought bernhard would be a German.
A great compliment, thanks. I am a German writing from Germany (bad grammar, lacking vocabulary and defective spelling included.) I consider this an international blog, though its origin, the English language, the overwhelming role of the empire in the analysis and the majority of the readers do make it sort of ‘American’.

Posted by: b | Sep 2 2007 7:24 utc | 17

Have some uniformed policemen patrol there once a while?
Once in a while wont do it. A uniform instantly influences bahavior. That arrest never would have happened if the officer was in uniform. They guy was peaking through the crack in the stall before he even entered the adjacent stall.
Or if one wants a real conservative market solution: License a gay sex-shop with an attached discret and comfortable darkroom within the airport. Entrance fee $1 per 15 minutes, condoms included, and age restricted to 18+. Beer $3 a can, champagne and caviar depending on available sources …
This isn’t Europe we are talking about this is the land where gay bashing wins elections. Your idea would create a national outcry.
The weird thing – I am not aware of any public toilet here that has such a community. Except, maybe, in certain obvious pubs. Why is that?
The difference in thinking is so great that you can’t understand it. They pass laws supported by the public constantly subordinating gays which the courts are froced by the constitution continuously strike down. Thier great recently deceased religious leader, Jerry Falwell, came up to Canada to do one of his televangilist shows. He proclaimed that if a gay man came on to him he would kill him and lie to God about it. A formal complaint made it public causing an uproar. You just can’t imagine the stigma down there.

Posted by: Sam | Sep 2 2007 9:50 utc | 18

Two questions came to mind about the Senator Craig story:
1) How many houses were burglarized, cars stolen, etc. while The M-StP police department posted an officer to bust sorry old perverts in public restrooms?
2) How many other really important and potentially nasty things are going in the White House and elsewhere in Washington while the press is busy being distraced into devoting so much attention to the story of how a police officer busted a sorry old pervert?

Posted by: ralphieboy | Sep 2 2007 10:00 utc | 19

The only way one can remove a politician, it would seem, is by catching him in flagrante delicto.
I have seen a poster reading “Will someone please give Bush a blowjob so that we can impeach him?”

Posted by: hopping madbunny | Sep 2 2007 10:35 utc | 20

@Sam – Once in a while wont do it. A uniform instantly influences bahavior. That arrest never would have happened if the officer was in uniform. They guy was peaking through the crack in the stall before he even entered the adjacent stall.
Yes, a uniformed policement would influence behavior. THAT IS exactly what he is supposed to do. Why arrest anybody and throw ’em into prison when you are able to influence the undesired behavior just by showing a face above a uniform once a while.
If there is a drugscene developing at some corner here, the police starts patrolling there and making things “unconformtable”. The scene vanishes, maybe moves elsewhere but will be haunted there just the same. It eventually dies out that way. Simple to do, cheap and effective.

Posted by: b | Sep 2 2007 11:18 utc | 21

b,
who needs a uniformed police officer? A telescreen and a poster reminding us that “Big Brother is watching you” would be just as effective…

Posted by: ralphieboy | Sep 2 2007 12:09 utc | 22

b:
Yes, a uniformed policement would influence behavior. THAT IS exactly what he is supposed to do. Why arrest anybody and throw ’em into prison when you are able to influence the undesired behavior just by showing a face above a uniform once a while.
You would have to post an officer in the bathroom 24/7 not once in a while. Besides that’s not the way it works. The public complains and demands arrests. Sheriffs are elected not hired. We are talking about the country that has more people in jail per capita than Russia or China. No arrests no re-election. The object isn’t prevention it’s quotas for the next election campaign.
ralphieboy:
who needs a uniformed police officer? A telescreen and a poster reminding us that “Big Brother is watching you” would be just as effective…
Yah Big Brother filming you while you shit. That oughta go over real good.

Posted by: Sam | Sep 2 2007 13:09 utc | 23

Ralphieboy has it right. Its “Mission Distraction” time again! While the Neocons ramp up the war rhetoric machine to invade Iran and while they quietly create more power to the Executive Branch or use freely powers that the Constitution does not give them, the dull witted American public is treated unstopping coverage of Larry Craig joining the Religious Reich Republican Rump Riding Club and Britanny Spears minus her panties….again!
How well they learned that sex not only sells, it distracts! I’ve come the conclusion that every time another of the headline grabbing waste of mind news stories is blaring across the media, I need to go to the web and see who is being tortured, how many civilians are being killed in Iraq, what Homeland Insecurity power grab is taking place, and what part of the Constitution and Bill of Rights is quietly being sprayed with battery acid!
In other words, its business as usual in Bush’s wacky land when they throw one of their own to the wolves to cover another bloody trail!

Posted by: Diogenes | Sep 2 2007 13:56 utc | 24

@beq and @bernhard:
Thank you for enlightening me and many kudos to both of you for all the words and art. I am amazed myself how much I like reading you. Had I known … now I understand a bit better why … being a German in America, you so often express my feelings to the point and so well, I can’t say thanks often enough.
Wow, that makes me a happy camper now. A light in the tunnel of a German, who feels like being trapped in the American diaspora.
Ah, why couldn’t I imagine that by myself. πŸ™‚ Your Brecht quotes brought so many memories back to me including Lotte Leynia singing “The moon of Alabama” that great sound of her interpretation of “Surabaya Jonny”. Still hear it some 45 years later. It was in the early sixties and I was a teenager hopelessly in love with Lotte Leynia’s singing.

Brecht and Weill also wrote “Surabaya Johnny,” a bone-chilling wail by a tormented woman hopelessly in love with a brutal sailor:
You said lots of things, Johnny!
Not a word was true, Johnny —
You lied from the moment we met!
I hate you so, Johnny!
I hate how you stand there
laughing at me!
Take that pipe out of your mouth, you filthy dog!

Surabaya Johnny, I’ll miss you so.
Don’t quit writing … please.

Posted by: mimi | Sep 2 2007 14:27 utc | 25

@beq and @bernhard:
Thank you for enlightening me and many kudos to both of you for all the words and art. I am amazed myself how much I like reading you. Had I known … now I understand a bit better why … being a German in America, you so often express my feelings to the point and so well, I can’t say thanks often enough.
Wow, that makes me a happy camper now. A light in the tunnel of a German, who feels like being trapped in the American diaspora.
Ah, why couldn’t I imagine that by myself. πŸ™‚ Your Brecht quotes brought so many memories back to me including Lotte Leynia singing “The moon of Alabama” that great sound of her interpretation of “Surabaya Jonny”. Still hear it some 45 years later. It was in the early sixties and I was a teenager hopelessly in love with Lotte Leynia’s singing.

Brecht and Weill also wrote “Surabaya Johnny,” a bone-chilling wail by a tormented woman hopelessly in love with a brutal sailor:
You said lots of things, Johnny!
Not a word was true, Johnny —
You lied from the moment we met!
I hate you so, Johnny!
I hate how you stand there
laughing at me!
Take that pipe out of your mouth, you filthy dog!

Surabaya Johnny, I’ll miss you so.
Don’t quit writing … please.

Posted by: mimi | Sep 2 2007 14:29 utc | 26

Hi mimi – As I understand it, Bernhard will write as long as we participate. I’ll ask before he does that if you would like to write about your situation, it will be more than welcome.
As a citizen of the states, I value this community because of its diversity.

Posted by: beq | Sep 2 2007 14:39 utc | 27

the bankruptcy of the judiciary, the congress & senate & especially the whit house shouls come as no surprise
what is surprising however is that it looks like a rerun of the three stooges – with bush cheney gonzales re-enacting curly mo & larry (?)
unfortunately it is not high farce but low comedy – a sort of sordid slapstick
& as others have pointed out various mis en scenes are there to hide even worse crimes or to cache crimes that are in preparation
tho siun works very hard with the firedog lake community ( i respect very much her efforts) their complete infantilisation of the law makes me want to puke. it is an undergraduates obsession with the ‘law’ – when in reality none exists
when non -law law graduates come from the ‘christian’ universities’ – – it is no suprise at all – they don’t look at precedents or statutes or even the constitution – there they prefer scripture & they think that is all they need – puty the poor fucking defendant that has them for a lawyer. but then they hate the blacks & the poor – so most probably they never represent them
in fact if i was the ‘flic’ with vrai -i would have tasered him – taught him some manners & another world view if he was lucky
but behind all this is a dumbness so destructive that in the end it will destroy itself

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 2 2007 16:54 utc | 28

“Nimm doch die Pfeiffe aus dem Maul, du Hund!”
wilkommen, mimi. i’m an american moonbat who adores lotte lenya and kurt weill. we’re living in mahagonny, where the only law is “you can do anything you want, as long as you can pay for it.” our mahagonny wasn’t spared the hurricane though….no “heavenly salvation” for new orleans. and where is our Happy End? “Hosiannah Halliburton! Hosiannah KBR!”
rgiap: everytime I remember the 3 Stooges episodes, all I can think is “who’s gonna clean up this mess?”

Posted by: catlady | Sep 2 2007 18:41 utc | 29

catlady
unfortunately, that one question is easy. at the beginning of the 21st century it is women who have to clean up the mess of men

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 2 2007 18:59 utc | 30

Alabama Song a sweet rendition.

Posted by: anna missed | Sep 2 2007 19:23 utc | 31

or lotte lenya

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 2 2007 20:38 utc | 32

it all makes sense now? some are saying the catapaulting of the Craig story was Bushco operation, engineered to crowd out any discussion of Gonzales & the Justice Department he made a shambles of. The fact Craig teamed with Feingold to oppose the patriot act says much. Also could explain the differential treatment of Craig and Vitter.
Doesn’t and wouldn’t surprise me at all, frankly–Bushcult is a vindictive muthafucka.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 2 2007 21:13 utc | 33

@b – Your comments on the bathroom problem reflect a thought process of prevention to tackle social ills. The US doesn’t work that way. Prevention is for “liberals” in other words a commie plot. If prevention was anywhere in the US lexicon they wouldn’t have 47 million people with no health insurance and an exemption for pre existing conditions for the people that do have health plans. It’s the same with crime where problems are tackled with punishment not prevention. Tough on crime gets people elected. Prevention programs are either ridiculed or attacked with religious fire and brimstone. Even sex education for children is attacked on the same lines.
This was not always the case and I believe that the change came as a result of the rebellion in the 60’s against the Vietnam war. Then it was the generation gap as children were horrified by their warmongering parents and the peace sign became the symbol of resistance. US elites reacted to this by funding an explosion of right wing stink tanks and born again christian preachers purging the masses of the evil soft on crime liberals. It is this mindset that got Clinton elected by watching a retard get executed. It is this attitude that led Bush to mock a killer on death row. This is a society where hospitals regularly dump seniors patients in the middle of skid row to save money and there is no public outcry.
Nothing explains this mindset more than hurricane Katrina. An all out plea for compassion is simply ignored. In most coutries this would have resulted in a procession of vehicles laden with supplies to help thier fellow citizens. Not in America. What they got is the military pointing guns at those citizens and a Colonel yelling at them to put the guns down because TV reporters caught them on camera. Even sportscastors were too busy mocking Sean Penn’s sinking boat while they sat on their asses watching from the safety of their living room.

Posted by: Sam | Sep 2 2007 23:19 utc | 34

Sam@34,
you are right.
and you are right enough that it needs to be pointed out that :
the hardening of public attitudes wrt the means & ends of law enforcement, the judicial process & punishment are very much driven by race, historically.
we are all in essence victims of this outcome, regardless of race.
but we are generally conditioned to treat race-factors like blind-spots. And that we are perpetually under siege by forces that would otherwise overrwhlm us.
and an informed comparison of how Europe differs from the USA on these issues will eventually point to race as a major historical factor.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Sep 3 2007 5:20 utc | 35

Senator Craig leaves for the wrong reason. He is a hypocrite and should leave in shame because he hurt gay people. He should not leave for being gay and because of abusive tools in the hand of the police and prosecutors.

You’re not just good, you’re damn good, Bernhard, you have not only lifted Bilmon’s mantle, you constantly raise it to ever higher levels!
Almost no one has addressed the wierdness of the sting — jeeze, you can’t even take a crap now without wondering if the guy in the stall next to you is a guy or a guy…

Posted by: Chuck Cliff | Sep 3 2007 8:15 utc | 36

remembereringgiap@32, catlady@29, beq@27
Thanks for the kind words of welcome and the Lotte Lenyia song. πŸ™‚
Beq, I don’t feel like writing, I am just grateful to read and lurk and sometimes snark for self-therapeutic reasons. Raised in Hamburg, studied in Berlin, since 1982 in the US, with more than enough diversity in my life, I feel … old and confused in Washington DC like since quite a while … and I can’t forget about the suitcase in Berlin, I left behind. Will I ever pick it up?
I still don’t get used to sit between the stools. Dreaming of a real good ‘ol wing-back chair in a room with a view and my books and an occasional visit to the next wiskey bar at the Moon of Alabama alley, that’s all I want.
Oh, catlady, and I can clean up as if there is no tomorrow … but, hmm, as Suze Orman taught every American woman, I am not for sale, these days, so now I do cleaning just for charity reasons.
Cheers

Posted by: mimi | Sep 3 2007 16:21 utc | 37

Gee mimi – You should have spoken up here a year ago then you could have met our kind host and gone back to Hamburg. We could have even picked up that suitcase in Berlin.
But! You’re in my hometown now and not too far away…

Posted by: beq | Sep 3 2007 17:02 utc | 38

@beq – 38 – the “suitecase in Berlin” is a a famous German song (english text) from the early 1950s.
mimi – Berlin is great again – much different than the 1980s though – maybe too great and in some ways like DC, but you would like the former east Berlin … don’t miss to see it again

Posted by: b | Sep 3 2007 17:27 utc | 39

Ach, I miss the Berlin of the ’80’s, and my German girlfriend…..

Posted by: Malooga | Sep 3 2007 18:19 utc | 40

a little question – how would trauerspiel be translated into french – tragediΓ© (?)

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 3 2007 18:51 utc | 41

@r’giap – yes, correct

Posted by: b | Sep 3 2007 19:13 utc | 42

Thanks b (#39) I figured I was missing something, as usual.
But don’t ever miss a chance to see Hamburg or as much of Berlin as you can. Or Lubeck!

Posted by: beq | Sep 4 2007 12:29 utc | 43

b @ 39, beq @ 38,
b that suitcase song, thank you … :-), my parents, if they were still living, would immediately have started humming.
Oh, and then I remember a songwriter in Berlin, I think he wasn’t really a famous, just made one great album of his beloved, ugly Berlin between the back alleys and the Wall, the Berlin I knew, the cozy niches of our prison island, where lovers could find a moment of happiness and feel at home. He sounded a bit like a mixture of Wolf Biermann and Leonhard Cohen. Unfortunately I can’t remember his name. May be somewhere in the suitcases in the attic … I will find it. A time bygone.
I miss the Wall. I have been in Berlin in 2004, but had time only for an official tour. I found myself desperately looking out for the Wall and got very irritated and confused not finding it. I was so used to know where I am in Berlin in relation to the Wall and I find myself disorientated.
I felt betrayed, they just left a grey strip on the pavements of Berlin streets, where once the Wall determined what Berlin was all about. I was very disappointed. Americans would never have treated their own history like that, just erasing most of it like as if it never had existed. I want my Berlin Wall back. πŸ™‚
Oh, and no, the Berlin of today is not like DC, DC is a village, a pretty one, but a village, that is to say a village with ambitions, great museums, an attitude and back alleys, almost like the Berliner ones, nah, but not really … πŸ™‚ Not that I don’t like DC, I always love it when I come back to the US from Germany … til I start thinking again of … you understand … what used to be my home.

Posted by: mimi | Sep 5 2007 4:36 utc | 44

Mimi: when the moonbats visited Bernhard last January*, he took us on a fascinating tour of Berlin, carefully planned to give the Americans in the group the best historical impact. Lesson #1: in Germany, the Americans didn’t “win” WWII. I thought the huge Sony plaza that stands on the old Potsdamerplatz was a stunning statement of global corporatism. Sigh. But seeing the opera house, and the new Chancellory facing the Reichstag (it’s late, I’m probably scrambling things), and Victory gazing the full length of the boulevard (without an angel on her shoulder, alas)–I was amazed, over and over, to think of the resiliency of the city herself.
I think Germany has done a much better job of preserving its history than the US has. Look how they’re turning what’s left of New Orleans into a Disneyfied French Quarter. How long will it take us to recover after our current system implodes?
*you can find some of our ravings in the January archives, first week. be warned, we drank much and slept little. wunderbar!

Posted by: catlady | Sep 5 2007 5:03 utc | 45

Depends on what intends portends.
Senator Craig may renege on resignation…go, Larry, go.

Posted by: catlady | Sep 5 2007 18:28 utc | 46

Correct, in Germany, the Americans *didn’t* win WWII. The Russians did. It was not American troops that destroyed Hitler’s empire. It was Soviet troops, backed up by 40,000 tanks, that pushed back the Nazi regime inexorably and took Berlin and caused Hitler to take his own life. For that matter, the vaunted atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not cause Japan to surrender. Rather, the entry of the Soviet Union into the war, and the destruction of a million soldiers of the mainland Japanese army (the Kwantung Army in Manchuria), likely had more effect upon the Japanese decision to surrender. The Japanese feared the Americans. But they feared the Americans a whole lot less than they feared Stalin’s Soviet Union. Stalin was *not* a nice guy, and they knew it, and if an invasion of Japan was launched and the Soviets participated then the Soviets would get a part of post-surrender Japan. They surrendered while they could stay out of Soviet hands, not because of a couple of bombings of a couple of their cities.

Posted by: Badtux | Sep 5 2007 22:15 utc | 47

@ catlady 45
yes, it wasn’t uncle Reagan, who made the Berlin Wall come down, but you know, let’s be generous, most Americans believed in the gentleness of uncle Reagan’s propaganda and what the heck, who cares after all, who had won the cold war, to me all that counts is that the wall came down without killing anybody and that the so-called cold war was supposedly over. Well, we were allowed to dream for a couple of years, but then, everybody had to stop dreaming, including the Americans.
Concerning the resiliency of Berlin and your comparisons to New Orleans, I think it’s hard to compare. I think the difference is that people in Berlin after WWII and the division, had to rebuild, they couldn’t just go off somewhere and leave the destroyed or neglected neighborhoods behind. Where should they have gone to find greener pastures (other than emigrating to the US) everything was destroyed, so you just had to put in your sweat equity and rebuild.
In the US you can afford (well not afford, but it’s at least possible) that people leave a ghost town behind and try to start somewhere else. The governmental system also supported the people to leave instead of helping them to stay put and rebuild with the help of the Army engineers corps and National Guard. So badly and cruelly mismanaged, you can only cry. I haven’t seen the Disney world they recreate there now in some parts. I don’t think it will work that way.
I always had the feeling that the soul of New Orleans was created out of human pain and despair and the unique resiliency of the African-Americans to trick out and overcome whatever fate did hit them. That’s why I do believe that New Orleans will come back, as cynical and awful that may sound, there is plenty of pain, which will create plenty of furious anger to fight their fate with “laughing and singing through the tears”. People just need to get angry enough and I hope they will.
I believe the system will economically and consequently political crash in a way that “real change” becomes the only alternative to survive and to reconstruct people’s lives and heal their souls.
I can only add something that puzzled me here when I first came to the US. I realized that in DC the areas that were burned during the civil rights movement’s demonstrations and clashes, weren’t rebuilt even 25 years later. Similar to the burned out neighborhoods in LA. I tried to figure out why those neighborhoods very never rebuilt or why it takes several decades until it changes. When they finally are turned around and rebuilt, you don’t understand, why now and not earlier.
I don’t understand the system. What is the role of huge development corporations, who dictate what is built and for how much it’s going to be sold? Why can’t people build what they want (ie. small if they don’t have enough funds) on their own little piece of land? Why do you HAVE to buy pre-built, prefabricated houses?
One of the observations most Germans who come to live in the USA express consistently is that people here are by no means very free.
Everything is prefabricated and served according to a menu cooked by the huge development corporations, be it food or houses. Somehow there must be laws in the books that protect the developer’s interests and profits so much, whereas no laws seem to be in place that protects the interests and freedom of choices for the individual homeowners. Well, if the majority of people eat themselves to death with junk food and the majority of bridges and companies and water treatment facilities collapse, it will change.

Posted by: mimi | Sep 7 2007 6:44 utc | 48