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September 23, 2007
OT 07-67
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Dear Rupie Murdoch is busy stirring things up again – front page feature art. of his london times Israelis seized nuclear material in Syrian raid Posted by: jj | Sep 23 2007 8:24 utc | 1 NSA taking over domestic Internet “security”: NSA to defend against hackers
The programs name: Turbulance
It would seem that NSA is the defacto power in the US. a kind of KGB if you will. completely secretive and immune from congressional oversight. for some basic background in NSA wiki has some interesting things to say. Posted by: dan of steele | Sep 23 2007 11:30 utc | 3 I am sure everyone has heard about the silly girl who wore a fake bomb on her sweatshirt to the airport. of course none of that is true except what Maj. Scott S. Pare of the state police, commanding officer of the airport’s security contingent said. “Had she not followed our instructions” when confronted by state troopers, “we would have used deadly force,” Posted by: dan of steele | Sep 23 2007 12:09 utc | 4 Some murkey Newsweek piece: The Whispers of War
Fallon foresees ‘no war’ with Iran
Colorado sheriff creates roadblock so private firm can demand DNA blood sample
Is it fascism yet? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 23 2007 16:04 utc | 7 Only five out of 200 people complained when they were instructed by Sheriff’s deputies to pull over so that a 3rd party could test their breath, blood and saliva? I’m sure more than a few people are looking at that feedback with drool pooling in the corners of their mouths. Does anybody know the status of William H. Steele? The most recent story I’ve found — courtesy of Wikipedia — is a June 28 Stars & Stripes article which said his court-martial was scheduled to begin August 15. Since then: nothing. The most recent NYT story I could find was June 15; the most recent WaPo May 2. It appeared from the first that reporters were being waved off the story by the military, but when a Lieutenant-Colonel is facing capital charges of “aiding the enemy”, you would think there would be some coverage. Posted by: Frughul | Sep 24 2007 3:19 utc | 9 Columbia withdraws invitation to Ahmadinejad
They are casting a very wide net. There are PRIVATE organizations, assisted by cops, trying to bully people for their DNA. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 24 2007 3:59 utc | 10
geez… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 24 2007 4:09 utc | 11 As I recall, he “walked out” during the conversation on whether higher American casualty numbers were necessary to hasten the war’s end… Posted by: PeeDee | Sep 24 2007 4:24 utc | 12 Uncle @ 10 Posted by: small coke | Sep 24 2007 4:49 utc | 13 Walter Pincus parses the words uttered on the “surge” reductions and finds that there may well be no troop reductions next summer A Cautious Approach to Troop Reduction Papers please ! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 24 2007 7:39 utc | 15 i really don’t usually watch these things but i did tonight. i was flipping stations. the result surprised me. she didn’t win the $10,000. Posted by: annie | Sep 24 2007 8:30 utc | 16 b’s link @ 5: Posted by: Sam | Sep 24 2007 9:05 utc | 17 Military baiting, killing Iraqis
We’re like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheepherder’s feet. ‘Pick it up.’ ‘I don’t wanna pick it up, mister, you’ll shoot me.’ ‘Pick up the gun.’ ‘Mister, I don’t want no trouble, I just came to town here to get some hard rock candy for my kids, some gingham for my wife. I don’t even know what gingham is, but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff. I ain’t looking for no trouble, Mister.’ ‘Pick up the gun.’ The sheepherder picks up the gun, three shots ring out. ‘You all saw him, he had a gun.’ Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 24 2007 9:51 utc | 18 French PM Fillon tells farmers ‘France is broke’
Snip…
Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 24 2007 10:10 utc | 19 Saw reports of riots in Hamburg. As usual the papers only report what the police said in their press release. What’s up? Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Sep 24 2007 11:51 utc | 20 @Sam #17 Posted by: Bea | Sep 24 2007 12:50 utc | 21 well well well Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 24 2007 17:45 utc | 22 to be a puppet – when u s imperialism – was at the peak of its power- was always a dangerous job – but for all the puppets in iraq – it is also demeaning. it is hard to tell what is worse. maliki appears to be on medication. & talabani tends to be always in trance. it is perhaps the first u s colony that is ‘governed’ by somnambulists Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 24 2007 17:58 utc | 23 Fallon does not foresee war with Iran. (b at 6) Posted by: Tangerine | Sep 24 2007 18:27 utc | 24 CTV Will Webcast Ahmedinejad’s Speech Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 24 2007 18:31 utc | 25 ahmedinjad hit below the belt when he spoke of the ‘self-absorption’ of the united states – he touched something vey important Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 24 2007 19:15 utc | 26 ahmedinjad hit below the belt when he spoke of the ‘self-absorption’ of the united states – he touched something vey important Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 24 2007 19:16 utc | 27 bollinger appeared to be the more ‘fanatic’ & fundamentalist Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 24 2007 19:25 utc | 29 Sam noted: Posted by: jj | Sep 24 2007 19:25 utc | 30 sorry to go on but the anti ahmedinjad protests had all the ‘innocence’ of a nazi youth rally during the olympics Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 24 2007 19:40 utc | 31 I like this part of yesterdays interview with Ahmedinejad (that journalist is such an idiot):
Ahmedinjad was nicely assassinated by the University President before he even reached the stage. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 24 2007 19:54 utc | 33 Ahmedinjad was nicely assassinated by the University President before he even reached the stage. Posted by: jj | Sep 24 2007 20:07 utc | 34 The “holocaust denial” is as much real as the “wipe Israel off the map” meme.
on jj’s @30 Posted by: b real | Sep 24 2007 20:15 utc | 36 I certainly don’t agree with Ahmedinejad, but the unwarrented hostility he is meeting in the U.S. and the immense bias of the media accounts makes one wonder if he could say something that might put he positive light on him. Maybe “Iran surrenders” and “I’ll kill myself now” would be sufficient – maybe not. JJ, I can send you some Prozac to smoke if you think it would help… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 24 2007 20:30 utc | 38 I rarely if ever read the front page, but DHinMI over at dkos caught my eye, the front page has this:
I stand by this: Giuliani-Gingrich ticket. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 24 2007 20:48 utc | 39 @askod – 20 – Saw reports of riots in Hamburg. As usual the papers only report what the police said in their press release. What’s up? UAW Strike
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Posted by: Rick | Sep 24 2007 20:55 utc | 41 Civil discourse, get your ci…. Iranian president spars with academics in NY
For your edification and fast find:
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 24 2007 21:57 utc | 42 what i saw was some thug parading as a scholar exhibiting in every sense both an absence of culture & manners – providing plenty of evidence – if any was needed to a middle east audience just how barbaric a certain kind of america is Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 24 2007 22:40 utc | 44 perhaps bollinger holds the bill o’reilly chair of moral philosophy Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 24 2007 22:44 utc | 45 Bea @ 21: Posted by: Sam | Sep 24 2007 23:12 utc | 46 @Sam #46 Posted by: Bea | Sep 24 2007 23:32 utc | 47 Who is Isreal? Who is the US? Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Sep 24 2007 23:45 utc | 48 TRANSCRIPT of Ahmadinejad’s Columbia speech for what it’s worth. Note the source. via Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 25 2007 1:41 utc | 49 Opening salvo: (Note b, if this is to long feel free to delete it)Also, keep in mind the above in that this is translated from the Israeli project.
LEE BOLLINGER is a Complete dickhead in my opinion, but then I’m not big on Ahmadinejad either, and even less so on Israel policy. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 25 2007 2:02 utc | 50 wow. i’ve purposely avoided the story, but just skimming over #50 is very alarming. they say a little ignorance can be a dangerous thing – wow. so what do you say when this kinda crap pours out of a university president? are we making the nazi’s look bad yet? Posted by: b real | Sep 25 2007 2:18 utc | 51 yikes. screwed that one up. sorry. ‘a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.’ Posted by: b real | Sep 25 2007 2:33 utc | 52 uncle Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 25 2007 2:38 utc | 53 “exhibit the fanatical mindset that characterizes so much of what you say and do” best describes his views, actions, and that group from which he comes from. Posted by: BenIAM | Sep 25 2007 2:39 utc | 54 Usually when Hitler and Nazis are brought into an Internet discussion, it ends the discussion. I think there is a formal name to this sarcastic “Law of Physics” though the name of this Law escapes me at the moment. I am happy not to see it end here; in this case the U.S. elites look so bad that even basic universal truths are moved aside in wonderment! As b real said “Are we making the Nazis look bad yet? In answer to b real’s question, all I can say is “The only people we are making look bad are ourselves, and we’re trying awfully hard at doing so.” And by “we” I mean those in the U.S. Media and that jerk from Columbia University who insulted the President of Iran as part of his introductory speech. Any decent human being, – in any formal cultural setting, in any nation of this planet – would at least have let the invited guest speak his words and then afterwards, allow him to answer questions. There was no need to begin with insults. Posted by: Rick | Sep 25 2007 3:36 utc | 55 Posted by: biklett | Sep 25 2007 3:41 utc | 56 Ya gotta wonder how bush would do delivering a speech at a major Iranian university. Naah, it doesn’t take much imagination to picture that. Posted by: anna missed | Sep 25 2007 3:53 utc | 57 Bill Burroughs was a Columbia alumni wasn’t he? Considering his most ingenious construction was ‘The great adding machine scam’ is looks like the place has been downhill ever since.
You’ll agree that while it is only slightly more cogent, it is rather more truthful. Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 25 2007 4:03 utc | 58 Any decent human being, – in any formal cultural setting, in any nation of this planet – would at least have let the invited guest speak his words and then afterwards, allow him to answer questions. There was no need to begin with insults. Posted by: jony_b_cool | Sep 25 2007 5:32 utc | 59 i saw 60 minutes w/the interview of Ahmadinejad . the reporter was incredibly rude. not only his words but his facial scowls and his body language. gross. what an embarrassment. Posted by: annie | Sep 25 2007 5:43 utc | 60 Ahmadinejad, at Columbia, Parries and Puzzles
This is the full, 81 min (embedded small screen vid) speech given today at Columbia University by President Ahmadinejad of Iran. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 25 2007 6:48 utc | 62 @Rick (#55) Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 25 2007 7:02 utc | 63 Bea @47: Posted by: Sam | Sep 25 2007 7:14 utc | 64 @Sam – much wrong in your words above – for now I’ll just pick this: b: Posted by: Sam | Sep 25 2007 7:59 utc | 66 Somebody at the Guardian should take a refresher course in basic English… FCC Proposes ‘Fake News’ Fine Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 25 2007 8:41 utc | 67 You’ll have to ask the IDF why they were there not me. Posted by: annie | Sep 25 2007 8:43 utc | 68 sorry, late night, those bold strokes…and missing italics.. Posted by: annie | Sep 25 2007 8:47 utc | 69 The point is if they are not willing to kill women and children enmasse they haven’t a hope in hell of ever winning this militarily, which means hatred and targetted killing forever. Posted by: Debs is Dead | Sep 25 2007 8:56 utc | 70 Many of this group are already well known in 9/11 revisionist circles. What seems to be interesting is the question of whether or not the numerical mass and solid professional credentials of the CIA-7 will be a sufficiently authoritative nucleus to make revisionism respectable among “right-thinking” Americans. Alas, I doubt it. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Sep 25 2007 9:00 utc | 71 you make a very good argument Sam and I too have come to the conclusion that most Israelis and most Jews are not happy with the present situation. Posted by: dan of steele | Sep 25 2007 9:04 utc | 72 I’d be interested in hearing an exegesis for this fairy tale about the diamond industry. It would seem that a major scam is about to pop, if the tale turns out to be true. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Sep 25 2007 9:56 utc | 73 annie @ 68: Posted by: Sam | Sep 25 2007 10:30 utc | 74 What World War III
missing the forest for a tree
that’s a long way from the days when shell was arming the nigerian police and others to protect its interests, eh? it’s a cynical move though, this attempt to pacify the delta youth, b/c non-violence generally only works when the aggressor is already convinced for their own reasons to vacate/cease operations. it buys them time to pump more crude & natural gas. especially now that a permanent u.s. navy presence in the gulf is in the works.
Posted by: b real | Sep 25 2007 16:00 utc | 76 hannah #71, solid professional credentials of the CIA-7 many more Posted by: annie | Sep 25 2007 16:02 utc | 77 Why is it so easy to rile up US Jews? Posted by: annie | Sep 25 2007 16:24 utc | 78 that last comment was not directed at you sam. just my request for discussing the zionist agenda. Posted by: annie | Sep 25 2007 16:28 utc | 79 i’m sure there are an abundance of progressive jews in israel also, just not as many as the US. ask yourself, if there were a 1000 naomi kliens, seymore hershs,maloogas or chomskys in israel, would it change coarse? A deeper look into the manipulation of statistics in Iraq: What Defines a Killing as Sectarian?
Could it be that progressives, who by some coincident are also jews, do not identify themselves primarily as jews and therefore have see no need to talk out as such? Posted by: annie | Sep 25 2007 17:40 utc | 82 Thanks @76 Posted by: jony_b_cool | Sep 25 2007 17:41 utc | 83 @ Sam, #46 Posted by: Jake | Sep 25 2007 17:42 utc | 84 annie, Posted by: dan of steele | Sep 25 2007 17:53 utc | 85 once more, we have to be clear – that the likudniks, that the elites who govern the state of israel – do not represent the jewish people. those likudniks represent ‘interests’ & it is the interests that need to be understood & confronted. the vast mass of european jewry who were exterminated were proletarians & peasants. raul hilberg’s cold hard facts prove that Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 25 2007 18:06 utc | 86 Naomi Klein Schools Alan Greenspan mp3
btw, this jena 6 thing is about to blow up, to whose benefit is that? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 25 2007 18:47 utc | 87 FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK Posted by: annie | Sep 25 2007 18:54 utc | 88 the peacock report: Blackwater, Other Defense Behemoths, Get $15 Billion Narco-Military Contract
also, a comment by douglas valentine @ feral scholar that has gone unanswered
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Posted by: b real | Sep 25 2007 19:21 utc | 89 “Critics have come along and said ‘I don’t like your plan,'” Biden said, adding: “if you don’t like Biden’s proposal, what is your idea?” Posted by: Rick | Sep 25 2007 22:19 utc | 90 The Whitehouse dead enders are getting increasingly desperate for some good news, so desperate that Condy Rice the well known purveyor of untruths and distortions has decided to ‘praise the enemy’. This over-used ploy of failing football coaches whose team got their asses kicked around the paddock too many Saturdays is notable for one thing. She is praising a long ago bested coach from last season:
Things must be desperate indeed. It tells us firstly that there isn’t much in the way of usable statistics from thise season’s meisterplan ‘the surge’ and that things may not be going as swimmingly in Anbar as team management was claiming a couple of weeks ago.
tends to demonstrate that the old established tribes of Anbar who are local leaders when sitting round the pre-game press conference but foreign fighters (probably with dubious transfer papers) when on the acsendant are being more recalcitrant than BushCo and BetrayUs were claiming last week.
Then back on the old song:
I’m sure someone could dig up some acerbic retort by a famous coach, that words come cheap but games are won by deeds on the field of play or somesuch. Apart from the diehard neo-con amerikan empire season ticket holders no one else listens. Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 25 2007 22:36 utc | 91 @Rick #90 Posted by: Bea | Sep 25 2007 23:19 utc | 92 @Debs, congrats, you made me laugh out loud. Posted by: DeAnander | Sep 25 2007 23:46 utc | 93 Hooray for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, he’s the bestest since Vince Lombardi” Posted by: annie | Sep 26 2007 1:34 utc | 94 heck, they would resurrect him from the dead if they could. -annie Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 26 2007 1:45 utc | 95 A proposal for a general strike on election day November 6, 2007. See also whystrike.blogspot.com. Mentioned on cursor.org. Posted by: PeeDee | Sep 26 2007 2:03 utc | 96 heh. since debs is dead mentioned “things may not be going as swimmingly in Anbar as team management was claiming a couple of weeks ago”, correctly placing the testimony of the 11th & 12th on the calendar, that brings to mind the following in a DoD press briefing today by the joint chief of staff director of op planning, which may explain one of the many problems w/ usa[mnesia] journalists these days
Posted by: b real | Sep 26 2007 2:42 utc | 97 good chronology of u.s. role behind somali crisis
Posted by: b real | Sep 26 2007 3:36 utc | 98 @Sam #64 Posted by: Bea | Sep 26 2007 4:24 utc | 99 Shit Monolycus, your 67 made me spit tea all over my keyboard… Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 26 2007 5:43 utc | 100 |
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