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September 6, 2007
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McClatchey commentator Joe Galloway: Can’t we do better than this?
Tragedy has its own logic and it is completely different from what is thought as rational thought. Events proceed while some hapless being tries to mould them and at the end the fellow blinds himself or perhaps further on when very weak blind and in despair the gods offer him a place of rest. Posted by: jlcg | Sep 6 2007 11:22 utc | 2 Air Force investigates mistaken transport of nuclear warheads
uh, mhmmmm? *ears pull back like a cautious cat* Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 6 2007 11:43 utc | 3 Something is up today. maybe Syria is going to be the scapegoat for Shrub’s frustration/penis envy or whatever. Al-Jazeera has just flashed up that Syria launched an air strike on Syria. The Syrians have attacked the Israelis for violating airspace dropping bombs? Posted by: Debs is Dead | Sep 6 2007 11:55 utc | 4 Israel launched a strike on syria. The ‘bombs’ may have been ammunition Posted by: Debs is Dead | Sep 6 2007 11:58 utc | 5 Michael Ledeen Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 6 2007 12:13 utc | 6 Haaretz reports this as “Syria says Israel bombed Syrian targets” at midnight. Israel, of course, refuses all comment on the matter. Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 12:13 utc | 7 Contradictory reports on Gaza:
Israeli Defense Minister Barak makes threatening noises again about a full-scale invasion of Gaza. Yet Haaretz reports that the IDF objects to this move, and no real preparations are being made for it, because the tension with Syria is currently so high. After a cabinet meeting on the matter:
And yet, the army overnight reportedly moved 1 km into the Strip.
Ummm… bulldozers? Does that mean they are demolishing more structures along the border? Just wondering. Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 12:28 utc | 8 Human Rights Watch issues damning report on last year’s Lebanon War
Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 12:40 utc | 9 I meant to include the following also in #9:
Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 12:43 utc | 10 Nahr al-Bared residents in despair over complete destruction of the camp. Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 12:50 utc | 11 UN report: Palestinians Poorer Than Ever Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 12:55 utc | 12 Lebanon’s presidential elections have now officially been scheduled for September 25. Here are some pieces that help provide more background into understanding the complex political issues surrounding the all-important presidential election:
An in-depth piece from the Lebanese press on this development. Some key points:
A piece by a Syrian analyst, posted on Syria Comment, offering a different perspective on Berri’s call for a “consensus candidate.” Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 13:10 utc | 13 A different excerpt of b’s link in #1 expresses solidarity with
The bit about Cheney sleeping a different bed every night feels demonstrably false. Is there any corroboration? Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Sep 6 2007 13:30 utc | 14 Just to add to Bea’s post #11: Posted by: Sam | Sep 6 2007 13:51 utc | 15 @Hannah – google “cheney” “undisclosed location” – it’s a running joke since Cheney was hiding several times for “security reasons”. Hannah K. O’Luthon: Posted by: Sam | Sep 6 2007 14:05 utc | 17 Thanks b: Posted by: Sam | Sep 6 2007 14:12 utc | 18 would like to write something about the german terror plot”, but i’m leaving for holidays at the very moment… Posted by: snafu | Sep 6 2007 15:15 utc | 19 would like to write something about the german terror plot”, but i’m leaving for holidays at the very moment… Posted by: snafu | Sep 6 2007 15:16 utc | 20 snafu, Posted by: ralphieboy | Sep 6 2007 16:33 utc | 21 Anyone want to put odds on either a false flag attack or a small new war in the middle east occurring between now and sept. 15? Posted by: Malooga | Sep 6 2007 16:49 utc | 22 I’m not a gambler but I put a red ‘x’ on my calendar (the 14th) per Uncle’s #3. Posted by: beq | Sep 6 2007 16:56 utc | 23 Vanity Fair: Billions over Baghdad
Plus a Q&A with the authors of the piece: The Booty Vanishes
@Malooga (#22) Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 6 2007 17:45 utc | 26 Uh, you may want to sit down for this one, pour your self a tall stiff drink, take a couple of deep long breaths, drink that drink, then pour another…
Also see, Biderman’s Chart of Coercion.’
A shorter version of Biderman’s Chart of Coercion is DRTC. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 6 2007 17:45 utc | 27 don’t get all spun up about the B-52 incident. This was a big screw-up that ordinarily would not get press. The Air Force can transfer all the nukes they want to without anyone ever finding out about it. At no time was anyone in danger. Posted by: dan of steele | Sep 6 2007 17:49 utc | 28 Speaking of distractions.
Posted by: beq | Sep 6 2007 18:01 utc | 30 Chemical ‘WMD’ found at U.N. may be little more than cleaner Posted by: Malooga | Sep 6 2007 18:37 utc | 31 in case there is someone who was wondering what happened to Riverbend, it seems she and her family made it to Syria. Like all of her posts, this too is very sad and revealing of the human suffering we have caused. Posted by: dan of steele | Sep 6 2007 18:37 utc | 32 Mortgages in foreclosure at record high
There are some five variations of headlines now at Yahoo news that say something like Stocks advance with economy optimism
Fuck. Inflation. Can’t. Let. The. Markets. Down. how ’bout this?
Posted by: b real | Sep 6 2007 18:45 utc | 34 Bwaahhhh – they put up 15 feet metal fences all around Sydney to protect Bush’s ass and then happens this:
Unca Scam, at 27, Posted by: Tangerine | Sep 6 2007 19:16 utc | 36 Haaretz on the bizarro midnight raid on Syria: The Question is, How Will Damascus Respond?
Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 19:33 utc | 37
Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 19:41 utc | 38 Very interesting post today on Informed Comment that sheds light on why Bush decided to beam himself in to Anbar in particular as opposed to the green zone.
Posted by: Bea | Sep 6 2007 19:48 utc | 40 My collected works are available for the first time in print at Wolf DeVoon Lulu. Mostly theoretical stuff on liberty and the rule of law, addressed to future generations. Posted by: Wolf DeVoon | Sep 6 2007 20:41 utc | 41 @b #25 – The CBC did a special on the Iraq Oil For Food funds built up over the embargo years that amounted to 22 billion. By the time Bremer left and handed the remaining funds over to the Iraqi government there was only 3 – 1/2 billion left. Can’t remeber the name of it but it is still on their web site. The real irony was when Negroponte took over he emailed a request to the US asking for 3 – 1/2 billion to be taken from the 18 billion reconstruction fund for security and got it. Posted by: Sam | Sep 6 2007 20:50 utc | 42 In other news,
And here is the latest flare up of a chronic concern:
Posted by: Alamet | Sep 6 2007 23:05 utc | 43 berezovsky, mate of murdoch – what a small time hood Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 6 2007 23:09 utc | 44 Regarding yesterday’s LOOSE NUKES story!!! Important update!
Also, don’t miss:
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 7 2007 0:17 utc | 45 The two Germans, who plotted to attack US installations in Germany, puzzle the average American person quite a bit, I believe. Posted by: mimi | Sep 7 2007 2:06 utc | 47 Is China quietly dumping US Treasuries? Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2007 2:13 utc | 48 @ beq 39 Posted by: mimi | Sep 7 2007 2:17 utc | 49 It’s needed to take a step back and take a look at oneself from time to time. Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2007 2:19 utc | 50 U.S. Arms Exports and Military Assistance in the “Global War on Terror”
Posted by: b real | Sep 7 2007 2:36 utc | 51 Three important articles on Grand Imperial Strategy, Middle Powers, and resistance in South America: Posted by: Malooga | Sep 7 2007 3:01 utc | 52 #49 Posted by: jony_b_cool | Sep 7 2007 3:12 utc | 53 english, as a language, has official status in more than 75 countries. (source: stephen burman, the state of the american empire: how the usa shapes the world, univ. of california press, 2007, p. 104)
a brief historical refresher:
Posted by: b real | Sep 7 2007 4:03 utc | 54 I don’t know what to make of these groups, I just know their appeal isn’t restricted to their own membership… Documentary looks at Nazi porn in Israel
When I was a teenager, there were always little posses of my peers getting together for long road trips to kick the asses of the “Satanists” we’d heard were active in some rural enclave or t’other (there were “terrorists” in those days, but they didn’t get the kind of press they do now and they really didn’t appeal to us on the same level). I figured out early on that it was a combination of identity reinforcement and a way to relieve the boredom, but the trips were scenic even if they invariably ended with disappointment that the boogiemen didn’t show themselves. This was during the Cold War and I recognised the same thrill in my elders when they were chasing largely imaginary Communist plots that we teenagers experienced when we were chasing away our imaginary “Satanists”. Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 7 2007 4:07 utc | 55 A small word of caution about a group that does much good: Posted by: Malooga | Sep 7 2007 4:10 utc | 56 @ b real #54: Posted by: Malooga | Sep 7 2007 4:21 utc | 57 This is so transparent as to be ludicrously comical: Posted by: Bea | Sep 7 2007 4:24 utc | 58 @mimi – the recent plots in Germany @ b 59 Posted by: mimi | Sep 7 2007 5:04 utc | 60 upstream in #34 i linked to a bloomberg piece on the u.s. embassy in abuja, nigeria issuing a warning of “terror” threat to u.s. interests in that nation.
consider the following as a possible motive for the “non-specific” terror threat in nigeria:
there have been calls for OPEC to boost production quotas to ease problems stemming from reports alleging inventory reserve shortages, ‘threatening’ price increases, concerns over the affects of hurricane season, and world economy imbalances stemming from u.s. financial market woes. but OPEC appears to be standing firm & many analysts don’t think they’ll budge.
so could this warning from the u.s. embassy in abuja be part of a tactic to help push the price of crude up so high that it puts more pressure on OPEC to increase quotas next tuesday? Posted by: b real | Sep 7 2007 5:25 utc | 62 @mimi – 60 – first let me recommend to you Telepolis, a small but serious German online magazine with some alternative views. Alamet’s link @ 43: Posted by: Sam | Sep 7 2007 6:41 utc | 64 @ b 63 Posted by: mimi | Sep 7 2007 7:07 utc | 65 The
On IntelCenter and Mrs Katz see Where do messages from OBL, Zawahri come from?
continueing on b’s #33 post, Reuters has an article with both the denials by the Fed and actually what they did: Posted by: Sam | Sep 7 2007 8:07 utc | 67 Turning to Afghanistan: Posted by: Sam | Sep 7 2007 8:26 utc | 68 I think Bush still thinks of himself as “I’m the war President”: Posted by: Sam | Sep 7 2007 9:06 utc | 69 Tell us again how safe Anbar is now: Posted by: Sam | Sep 7 2007 9:07 utc | 70 sam , they have rewritten the article to make bush sound more sane. after copying this segment i went back to find another amusing part of the exchange and this had already been scrubbed along w/a rewrite of what you copied. Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2007 10:56 utc | 71 b. this ms katz has an interesting past. evidently her father was hung in the town square by saddam. she is an independent self styled terrorist trapper! i’ll see if i can find the article i read about her a while back. SITE is not to be trusted. o wait, i think i remember. the weekly standard circa 6/07(that bastion of truth)claimed that the baath party (w/al douri supposedly in attendance)had a “heros meeting” was aligned w/al queada where they swore alliance. this was intercepted by SITE (who else) listening in on some yemen terrorist message board! Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2007 11:23 utc | 72 SITE is so creative Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2007 11:27 utc | 73 here’s a new yorker piece on the site institute Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2007 11:46 utc | 74 Rue89 has an interesting story on the man that planted the bomb Iran story in the Sunday Times: Posted by: Sam | Sep 7 2007 12:06 utc | 75 Some Iraq developments: Posted by: Sam | Sep 7 2007 12:17 utc | 77 The number of U.S. troops in Iraq has climbed to a record high of 168,000, and is moving toward a peak of 172,000 in the coming weeks — a level that could extend into December, a senior military official said Thursday. Posted by: Malooga | Sep 7 2007 13:46 utc | 78 It should be understood by everyone here as axiomatic that any so-called terrorist plots uncovered in the US or Europe and trumpeted in the press are fake and meant to scare people and manipulate their minds and buy off their “free” votes. Posted by: Malooga | Sep 7 2007 13:55 utc | 79 @Malooga Posted by: Bea | Sep 7 2007 14:10 utc | 81 terrorism is a tactic that primarily relies on psychological impact. just as the cia et al are/have perfecting/ed torture in the psychological realm, rather than the physical, terrorism is being refined to the point that it no longer needs much in the way of material deed. the battlefield is in played out in people’s heads. Posted by: b real | Sep 7 2007 14:38 utc | 82 Ain’t Republican democracy grand: Posted by: Sam | Sep 7 2007 14:48 utc | 83
Astonishing, but without an opposition party … The crazies – exclusive excerpts from The Terror Presidency: Law and Judgment Inside the Bush Administration by Jack L. Goldsmith. Goldsmith served as head of the Office of Legal Counsel from October 2003 to July of 2004.
well stated b real 82, i’m stealing that for another forum. very succinct. Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2007 18:59 utc | 87 ditto that for 79, sorry i’m reading bottom to top, yep. war is the health of the state alright. Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2007 19:12 utc | 88 on al jazeeras tap of bin laden he looks more like groucho marx or my uncle lev. his beard comes from the same place where john bolton buys his toupées Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 7 2007 19:43 utc | 89 ô it is utterly ridiculous & reaches a new low in cia production values Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 7 2007 20:00 utc | 90 in the last open thread i pointed out that the u.n. team visit to the ogaden region of ethiopia was widely expected to not be an independent investigation, rather that they would be chaperoned by the ethiopian regime to select spots in order to avoid interrupting the govts scorched-earth counterinsurgency operations in the area.
ogaden online: UN Engaged in a Face Saving Exercise
also see Posted by: b real | Sep 7 2007 20:38 utc | 91 Hillary’s Prayer: Hillary Clinton’s Religion and Politics Posted by: Tangerine | Sep 7 2007 20:55 utc | 92 where’ do murdoch & his pals get their Grand-Guignol commentators Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 7 2007 21:34 utc | 93 Sam, thank you very much for the Iraqi poll @ 77, and the link @ 75. Debat reminds me of Scaramella, the self-styled nuclear proliferation and ecology and everything in between expert who was involved in the Litvinenko case. Very interesting! Posted by: Alamet | Sep 7 2007 21:39 utc | 94 I love Petras more than Chomsky these days. Better marshalling of data,has lots of information I don’t know, shorter, more concise, more readable, and far more understanding of the true nature of class- struggle. Chomsky sees things in terms of power; for Petras it is class that is the prime determinant. And the guy publishes just as much. He’s a marvel at his age. Posted by: Malooga | Sep 7 2007 22:32 utc | 95 By the way, those links I posted will help anyone to understand what’s going on in Latin America, just as b real’s links help us understand Africa. Posted by: Malooga | Sep 7 2007 22:34 utc | 96 If Catholics were in power in DC, Hillary would be going to Mass. Posted by: DeAnander | Sep 7 2007 22:46 utc | 97 malooga Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 7 2007 23:47 utc | 98 Malooga @ 95, no question! These days James Petras is about the only Big Name Intellectual whose writings I try not to miss. (Though I gather he isn’t as big a name in the US left circles as he is in the rest of the world.) Posted by: Alamet | Sep 8 2007 0:38 utc | 99 Two ZNet articles, both good and informative, looking at the two sides of what is essentially the same coin: Posted by: Alamet | Sep 8 2007 0:46 utc | 100 |
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