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September 20, 2007
New Fake(?) Bin Laden Tapes

There is a new ‘announcement’ of a Bin Laden tape to declare war on Musharraf. After the recent dubious ‘Bin Laden tape’, with only still pictures while the voice over talked about recent events, we should judge this ‘new evidence’ carefully:

CAIRO, Egypt – Osama bin Laden will release a new message soon declaring war on Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, al-Qaida announced Thursday.

The announcement of the upcoming message came as al-Qaida released a new video in which bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, boasted that the United States was being defeated in Afghanistan, Iraq and other fronts.

A banner posted on an Islamic militant Web site on Thursday advertised that another message would be released, though it did not say whether bin Laden would appear in video or speak in an audiotape.

"Soon, God willing: ‘Come to Jihad (holy war)’, from sheik Osama bin Laden, God protect him" the banner read.

"Urgent, al-Qaida declares war on the tyrant Pervez Musharraf and his apostate army, in the words of Osama bin Laden," it read.

Such advertisements usually precede the release of the video by one to three days, according to IntelCenter, a U.S. counterterrorism group that monitors militant messages.

Being an technical Internet guy since 1992, I am again wondering how any website, with a fixed IP address and thereby known physical location, can post anything like this without the international alphabet soup of secret services knowing the authors. I find this very unlikely. IntelCenter, as well as its sister company SITE which also ‘releases’ alleged Bin Laden tapes, are ‘private’ institutions headed by former U.S. government employees and financed through U.S. government contracts.

To anyone in this world who wants to post ‘terrorist’ footage to an international public, the most anonymous way is to send a CD or video tape to the outlets of legitimate news agencies. Anything put up on the web is by definition traceable. An envelope dropped into at a public letter box is not. The first Bin Laden tapes in 2002, likely real ones, were delivered anonymous to Al Jazeerah. So why are these ‘new tapes’ released through U.S. government contractors?

The sole fact that such ‘tapes’ and ‘announcements’ are now provided through IntelCenter and SITE is reason to doubt their origin. The content of these tapes, with ‘Bin Laden’ endorsing left wing writers he likely never read and declaring war on U.S. sponsored dictators, is playing right into Bush’s hand. Another reason that lets me disregard them as rubbish.

The recent announcements and tapes have thereby only one value. They allow a glimpse into the propaganda strategy of the imperial regime.

Comments

Being an technical Internet guy since 1992, I am again wondering how any website, with a fixed IP address and thereby known physical location, can post anything like this without the international alphabet soup of secret services knowing the authors. I find this very unlikely. IntelCenter, as well as its sister company SITE which also ‘releases’ alleged Bin Laden tapes, are ‘private’ institutions headed by former U.S. government employees and financed through U.S. government contracts.
Yes b, I wonder the same thing. How can the corporate media not be asking these questions?
Looking at the whole world situation, if an alien life tried to report objectively of all the ‘goings on’ here on planet earth, no reader would believe it. Like I often hear: “You can’t make this stuff up!” But yet here it is – this “nightmare” as rgiap calls it – right in front of our eyes!

Posted by: RIck | Sep 20 2007 14:30 utc | 1

Now that was fast – the White House must have some urgent FISA need or so in Congress – some four hours after the above cited piece the ‘tape’ is out: Bin Laden urges Pakistanis to revolt

Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden called on Pakistanis to wage a holy war against President Gen. Pervez Musharraf in a new recording released Thursday, saying his military’s siege of a militant mosque stronghold makes him an infidel.

Bin Laden’s voice was heard over video showing previously released footage of the terror leader. The video was released Thursday on Islamic militant Web sites and first reported by Laura Mansfield, an American terrorism expert who monitors militant message traffic.

No video, only voice over. Released by Laura Masfield

is an Arabic translator and former Associate Director of the Northeast Intelligence Network [1]. Mansfield is a contributor to World Net Daily and FrontPageMag.com.

The CIA will confirm that the voice is Bin Laden’s (via speech synthesis, but who will care) and when in the near future some outraged Pakistani will try to ouster Musharraff, the ‘Bin Laden tape’ will justify to kill them as ‘Al-Qaida terrorists’.

Posted by: b | Sep 20 2007 17:20 utc | 2

You are far too mild, b.
Everything we are told is a lie. EVERYTHING. If it wasn’t a lie, it wouldn’t need to be told to us, it would be obvious and we would know it. If we were winning the fake “war on terror,” the stories wouldn’t say “We Are Winning,” they would say, “Drugs Found in Venezuelan Tanker,” or “Threat of Global Warming Forces Innovative New Pre-emtive Climate-Saving Intervention Strategy,” or some such other drivel. Anyone can make up the sad rationalizations the press bombards us with 24/7; it is evil child’s play, a simple parlor game.
Ten years ago, the big new “thing” on the web was called “push technology,” i.e. finding ways to prevent user choice — the one feature which made the medium so attractive — and shepard users into “portal sites,” where they would be treated to the same gamut of advertising propaganda that they get 24/7 in every other activity of modern life.
A simple analysis would reveal that there are only about a dozen US news sources, and about 200 reporters and editors nationwide, at the most, who are agenda setters, pushing the news at us every day. The New York Times and Washington Post “set” the daily national agenda (most certainly on orders from above), and smaller regional and local papers, which don’t have the money for their own reporters, follow their lead, or run the same exact stories off the wire.
If I ran the CIA, and I didn’t have every single one of those two hundred sewn up as assets, one way or another, I simply would not be doing my job, and I would be worried that the President might fire my sorry ass. The system is so centralized, thanks to the “liberal” Clinton, that it is now child’s play to control the news — probably relegated to one single assistant under-secretary of something or another.
News is carefully tailored to fit the narrow constraints of the modern-day, industrially-bred, American sheep’s short and flighty attention span. One big story, several smaller ones for those who like variety, one “good-news” story, one outrage; the formula never changes, and neither do the stories very much, really. Just push, push, push.
We know enough, here at MoA, to recognize the broad outlines of this strategy. We know enough to see that we are already deep into Brehznev Soviet Union territory, where we must see who is standing next to whom to guess at the true power relations and what is really happening below the surface.
In any event, Bin Laden was chosen as carefully as a Supremme Court nominee. He was relatively young, in his late forties, guaranteeing a long career, should they want, in this “long war.” Besides, the stress never seems to be able to work its evil way into Bin Laden’s caves: he only gets younger as time goes by. Which is pretty good, since they are certainly keeping someone very busy churning these things out. For all we know, they have a whole stable of Bin Ladens acting out their nefarious role upon the world stage for all to watch and enjoy. It’s a new genre: Middle Eastern Post-Modern Gothic.

Posted by: Malooga | Sep 20 2007 17:51 utc | 3

You are far too mild, b.
Everything we are told is a lie. EVERYTHING. If it wasn’t a lie, it wouldn’t need to be told to us, it would be obvious and we would know it. If we were winning the fake “war on terror,” the stories wouldn’t say “We Are Winning,” they would say, “Drugs Found in Venezuelan Tanker,” or “Threat of Global Warming Forces Innovative New Pre-emtive Climate-Saving Intervention Strategy,” or some such other drivel. Anyone can make up the sad rationalizations the press bombards us with 24/7; it is evil child’s play, a simple parlor game.
Ten years ago, the big new “thing” on the web was called “push technology,” i.e. finding ways to prevent user choice — the one feature which made the medium so attractive — and shepard users into “portal sites,” where they would be treated to the same gamut of advertising propaganda that they get 24/7 in every other activity of modern life.
A simple analysis would reveal that there are only about a dozen US news sources, and about 200 reporters and editors nationwide, at the most, who are agenda setters, pushing the news at us every day. The New York Times and Washington Post “set” the daily national agenda (most certainly on orders from above), and smaller regional and local papers, which don’t have the money for their own reporters, follow their lead, or run the same exact stories off the wire.
If I ran the CIA, and I didn’t have every single one of those two hundred sewn up as assets, one way or another, I simply would not be doing my job, and I would be worried that the President might fire my sorry ass. The system is so centralized, thanks to the “liberal” Clinton, that it is now child’s play to control the news — probably relegated to one single assistant under-secretary of something or another.
News is carefully tailored to fit the narrow constraints of the modern-day, industrially-bred, American sheep’s short and flighty attention span. One big story, several smaller ones for those who like variety, one “good-news” story, one outrage; the formula never changes, and neither do the stories very much, really. Just push, push, push.
We know enough, here at MoA, to recognize the broad outlines of this strategy. We know enough to see that we are already deep into Brehznev Soviet Union territory, where we must see who is standing next to whom to guess at the true power relations and what is really happening below the surface.
In any event, Bin Laden was chosen as carefully as a Supremme Court nominee. He was relatively young, in his late forties, guaranteeing a long career, should they want, in this “long war.” Besides, the stress never seems to be able to work its evil way into Bin Laden’s caves: he only gets younger as time goes by. Which is pretty good, since they are certainly keeping someone very busy churning these things out. For all we know, they have a whole stable of Bin Ladens acting out their nefarious role upon the world stage for all to watch and enjoy. It’s a new genre: Middle Eastern Post-Modern Gothic.

Posted by: Malooga | Sep 20 2007 17:52 utc | 4

Whoops!
PS This is a good sign for Musharaff, giving him leeway to do what he needs to consolidate power. I guess the threat of the two old hands coming back worked its magic on the Mush man.

Posted by: Malooga | Sep 20 2007 17:54 utc | 5

They must want to put fear into the hearts of Europeans as well as Pakistanis, all of a sudden. Zawahiri Calls for Recapture of Spain

DUBAI – Al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri has called for Spain to be restored to the Islamic world, saying the first step needs to be the cleansing of Spaniards and French from the Maghreb.
Zawahiri was speaking in an 81-minute documentary-style video entitled “The Power of Truth” made public on Thursday by the US-based SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors extremist websites.

Posted by: Bea | Sep 20 2007 18:02 utc | 6

Meanwhile, what to make of this? (I know it’s OT here but thought it went too well with the above post not to include it here… although this would seem to be reporting on a “real” Arab takeover of European assets as opposed to a merely threatened one…)

Posted by: Bea | Sep 20 2007 18:04 utc | 7

Perhaps this is why…
Senate rejects restoration of habeas corpus

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 20 2007 18:07 utc | 8

From Bea’s link @7

“Neither QIA nor Qatar Holding currently intends to make an offer for the LSE but reserves its position in the event that a third party announces a firm intention to make an offer,” the statement continued.

Statement almost makes the LSE purchases by Dubai and Qatar sound pre-emptive. Is that possible? What third party might be interested in a majority interest? And who currently holds the majority interest? In what currency are LSE transactions cleared?
Dubai, of course, has recently been transforming itself into the financial center of the ME.

Posted by: small coke | Sep 20 2007 19:01 utc | 9

A recent Memri analysis found that most Iraqi jihadist sites were hosted in the United States. I’ve had questions since seeing this about how they’re paid for and why they’re allowed to continue in business. Only questions, you understand…..
http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD167807

Posted by: Steve | Sep 20 2007 19:01 utc | 10

My first reaction on seeing this news was that Musharraf decided that if it was that easy for the US admin to fake up convenient ABL announcements immediately prior to elections he might as well do one of his own.
Now I see that he used the same source.

Posted by: PeeDee | Sep 20 2007 22:48 utc | 11

My guess is that $cam and Bea are both right. From what I understand from friends/family in the UK, the European street isn’t all that interested one way or another in the notion that M.E. = evil. Prove that Euroland is firmly in the Dar el Harb and use that to justify keeping habeus corpus off the books.
The al-Andalus connection is perhaps a bit of coded irony: tapes from a dead man whose beard is ever refreshed in the fastnesses of the Hindu Kush; and if anyone remembers El Cid they’ll recall Charlton Heston’s corpse, stuffed, dressed and propped up on a corpse, galloping down a beach in al-Andalus to terrify the enemy. Or perhaps it’s just me who sees current affairs these days as having all the subtlety of a Carry On movie.

Posted by: Tantalus | Sep 21 2007 0:38 utc | 12

Interesting Steve @#10
Reminds me of the Boston globe article: Some cars used in Iraq bombings hail from Texas
Gives new meaning to Al CIA duh… 😉

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 21 2007 1:15 utc | 13

Uncle $cam,
Yes, I’ve been watching that for some time now. There are occasional updates but nothing definitive. There was a recent police rollup of a car theft gang in Maryland where some of the vehicle id numbers had turned up in Iraq but still….

Posted by: Steve | Sep 21 2007 1:52 utc | 14

Yeppers, Steve, here is a photo of “Al Qaeda In Iraq” for your collection.
Whether Al queda exists or not, pre 2001 and pre 2003 especially, the idea of resistance to a global corporate domination was both western and non western and there was a fair bit of exchange. Now do I think there are radicals in Iraq? Well, I’ll put it this way, I guaran-Goddamn-tee you if Iraqi’s were on American soil doing the things we are doing over there, there would be more than just a little resistance.
If the actual question doesn’t simply deal with the label of “Al Qaeda”, but rather with the reality of the existence of well-funded and often very well-trained paramilitary groups associated with militant forms of Sunni Muslim, primarily Wahhabist, religio-political ideologies that pursue the goals of jihad through acts of violence, terrorism and warfare- the answer is “yes” and “no” but we opened that door. In other words, as much as Al qaeda is a Western intelligence construct, it is also real, now. Real in the bifurcation of ANYONE that doesn’t fit our aims is Al queda and It refers to the perpetrators of any acts of terror or resistance to our plans.
Further, Jeff mills says, “the “War on Terror” is inflaming passions and creating flesh and blood enemies, which is precisely what the war-makers require for their generational game. They needn’t hoax the fact that millions of Brzezinski’s “stirred-up Muslims” want their heads. They just need good intelligence to keep the game on script.”
Just as the saying goes, ‘If there were not a God we would have to create him, so to we have to create a controlled enantiodromia, of opposites in a echo chamber feedback loop to justify our stay. If there were no Al qaeda we’d have to fund them…etc.. it’s mostly, a sciamachy. We created this sanguinivorous monster, …blood, oil, and soon water, there is no difference.
As chris floyd writes,

It’s a shell game, with money, companies and corporate brands switching in a blur of buy-outs and bogus fronts. It’s a sinkhole, where mobbed-up operators, paid-off public servants, crazed Christian,[Jewish and Islamic] fascists, CIA shadow-jobbers, war-pimping arms dealers – and presidential family members – lie down together in the slime. It’s a hacker’s dream, with pork-funded, half-finished, secretly-programmed computer systems installed without basic security standards by politically-partisan private firms, and protected by law from public scrutiny. It’s how the United States, the “world’s greatest democracy,” casts its votes.

Personally, I’ve come to the point of needing hiring a saulie, as I am past the line of giving my power away to these fucks. I’m out of tears.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 21 2007 4:22 utc | 15

b,
if true this is a big story. I thought the guy on the last tape didnt look much like bin laden.
Let’s see a critical investigation of the issue.
But i’m tired of conspiracists. The 9/11 ‘troofer’ people have done lethal damage to anyone caught up in it. Dont get caught in the same trap.

Posted by: b2 | Sep 21 2007 12:13 utc | 16

“Well, I’ll put it this way, I guaran-Goddamn-tee you if Iraqi’s were on American soil doing the things we are doing over there, there would be more than just a little resistance.”
$cam, that also happens to be the thrust of our trailer for Meeting Resistance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U623_GTYX-8

Posted by: Steve | Sep 21 2007 13:50 utc | 17

Just leave a trail of breadcrumbs and people will find whatever you want them to… S.C. mom scoops al-Qaida with its videos

Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 21 2007 14:16 utc | 18

heh. from monolycus’ link to the propaganda piece

There have been times when an impending video release has kept her from a planned shopping trip with her daughter.

Posted by: b real | Sep 21 2007 15:21 utc | 19

Binny, poster-boy terrorist, minor TV star. (The US was the first to give air time to real live terrarists.)
Many famous ppl live on beyond their deaths, in the traditional way (literature, etc.), but also thru cinematics and myths that keep the person in the present. Usually, though, they are presumed, understood, or even announced, as dead, one speaks of ‘legacy’ or presents the past as relevant to the present. John Wayne, John Lennon, John Kennedy.. and lots of other Johns.
To attain immortality, to live on after death in a corporeal or semi-such shape, it is necessary to be either a terrorist or a religious figure. Those guys have 9 lives and counting!
Please, if Paris Hilton overdoses, lets keep her around? Let us extend that privilege to all?
PS. The legal fight over the copyright of the “Bin Laden” name was resolved a few years ago. It is copyrighted, now belongs to Yeslam BinLadin. (also Laden, all in the small print.) I reckon he has a good case, that name cannot just be banded about like that, referring to who knows what. Ghosts, figments, what not.
🙂

Posted by: Tangerine | Sep 21 2007 15:25 utc | 20

*bandied about* is what i meant.

Posted by: Tangerine | Sep 21 2007 15:27 utc | 21

badger
What strikes me as even more peculiar is that this is heppening at the same time that the “AlQaeda” message is becoming noticeably more Bush-like, by which I mean that the stress is more and more on the irreconcilable and open-ended “war of cultures” nature of the conflict, (as opposed to earlier positions that in effect said “as you kill you will be killed”, suggesting that the conflicts were thought of as defined). And in this context the Zawahiri remarks about killing the French and Spanish in the Maghreb are particularly telling.
So these two things are happening at the same time: These messages are filtered through Washington-based groups, and the content of the messages is increasingly supportive of the idea of an open-ended and endless war between Islam and the West.

Posted by: annie | Sep 21 2007 17:52 utc | 22

Thanks for sharing that Steve, it looks pretty powerful. Meeting Resistance Trailer
Are you by chance Steve Connors?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 22 2007 13:24 utc | 23

“Are you by chance Steve Connors?”
I am indeed.
S

Posted by: Steve | Sep 22 2007 13:30 utc | 24

@Steve
Looks like a great movie, thanks so much.

Posted by: Bea | Sep 22 2007 14:29 utc | 25

Thanks folks. Please spread it around people you know who would be interested. Apart from the small cities we’re showing in we have our main release in NY, DC and – we hope – LA from October 19th. You can sign up on the site for reminders etc.
Even those who have a deep knowledge of the Iraqi resistance are finding a good deal to chew on with Meeting Resistance. That includes the US military who are bringing us to screen in Baghdad next week. It should be interesting:)
B, thanks for the use of your real estate – again – and for providing us all with a place to go to receive and exchange knowledge. Very valuable.
Best
Steve

Posted by: Steve | Sep 22 2007 15:38 utc | 26