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August 7, 2007
Another Rightwing-Jewish Chavez Smear

While reading the NYT this morning I stumbled across the headline Jews in Argentina Wary of Nation’s Ties to Chávez. The piece is by one Alexei Barrionuevo, a staff writer who usually covers financial and business issues.

Why would Jews in Argentina would be "wary" about the President of Venezuela visiting their country? Staying with Mr. Barrionuevo’s usual trade, the article is mostly about deepening economic ties that Venezuela and Argentina:

President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela said Monday that his country would help the government of President Néstor Kirchner refinance more of Argentina’s debt and increase its energy supplies.

The agreements help solidify the relationship between the countries; Venezuela has played an important role in helping Mr. Kirchner revive Argentina’s still-recovering economy.

But they are also causing potential political problems. In recent days, Jewish leaders here — part of Latin America’s largest Jewish community — have been expressing growing concern about Mr. Chávez’s close ties to Iran.

Hmm – reading on we learn that these Jewish leaders have concern because Iran is loud-mouthing about Israel. Let me see the chain again: Israel – Iran – Venezuela – Argentine – Jews in Argentine concerned about Israel. Isn’t that a bit too long a chain to make sense? By the way – Chavez opposes Ahmedinejad’s position on Israel.

Imagine orthodox-christian Germans being "wary" because the Italian Prime Minister, who before met a Polish president that despises Putin’s rule in Russia, visits Germany?

So who are these Argentinian Jewish leaders? Let’s see who the author quotes:

“The question is, will the economic agreements also generate some type of political commitment?” said Sergio D. Widder, the Latin American representative of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights organization.

After reading the piece twice, this is the ONLY quote from Jewish leaders in the article I find. (So why the plural leaders?)

The Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, which pays Mr. Widder, (and as we noted before, plans to build a "Museum of Tolerance" in Jerusalem  – on top of a Muslim graveyard,) already has an interesting relation with Chavez.

In early 2006 the Wiesenthal Center spread a doctored quote from Chavez to make him look anti-semitic. Then the Confederation of Jewish Associations of Venezuela responded to the Wiesenthal Center smears:

Officials of the leading organization of Venezuelan Jewry were preparing a letter this week to the center, complaining that it had misinterpreted Chavez’s words and had failed to consult with them before attacking the Venezuelan president.

“You have interfered in the political status, in the security, and in the well-being of our community. You have acted on your own, without consulting us, on issues that you don’t know or understand,” states a draft of the letter obtained by the Forward.

Both the AJCommittee and the American Jewish Congress seconded the Venezuelan community’s view that Chavez’s comments were not aimed at Jews.

Sergio Widder, the Wiesenthal center’s representative in Latin America, countered that Chavez’s mention of Christ-killers and wealth was ambiguous at best and in need of clarification. He said that the decision to criticize Chavez had been taken after careful consideration.

Those careful consideration included deleting important parts of the Chavez quote Mr. Widder and his center managed to push into the U.S. media stream.

I have no idea what the real Jewish community in Argentine thinks of Chavez. What he does offer though is certainly positive for the Argentinian economy. So I’d guess they are quite less "wary" than what the NYT headline and a quote from a very right-wing U.S. zionist "Jewish human rights" organization suggest.

It would have been interesting to learn about the real Argentinian Jewish opinion on the economic deals. Unfortunatly, the NYT and Alexei Barrionuevo will not tell us about it. Instead they foist partisan propaganda from a proven quote-forger to their readership.

Cui bono?

Comments

okay. i have an issue here. a small one but still. i am jewish. the only reason i say it is b/c both my parents are. i am not a practicing jewish man. i have an israeli passport but i haven’t set foot in that country since menahem begin (a terrorist) became president in 1977 and will not until israel makes reparations etc to the palestinian people. why couldn’t the title of the post have been “another right wing israeli smear” ? last time i checked judaism was a religion and since we all know that this propaganda is disseminated through the israelis why, again, not title the post “another right wing israeli smear” ? i know many jewish people who are practicing their religion and who are appalled by what israel is doing in the occupied territory and the influence its lobby has gained in washington. i am not ashamed of being jewish. as popeye said: i am what i am.
that said, bernhard, and all the regular barflys of course: you folks are the best! honestly i have yet to read another blog that has such a diverse and smart range of contributors that cover such a wide array of subjects. thank you all so much! not a day goes by that i don’t check in.

Posted by: charmicarmicat | Aug 7 2007 7:52 utc | 1

Well said, charmicarmicat.
Israel and its policies are distinct from Jews as a race and a religion.
It is interesting though that The New York Times looks toward “Jews in Argentina Wary of Nation’s Ties to Chávez.”
This headline leads to (perhaps amongst others) US funded Simon Wiesenthal Center’s criticism of Hugo Chavez’s statements.
Alarmism!
This is a tactic I have witnessed myself, at a talk given by a world-class political figure (can’t recall just now, it wasn’t Hans Blix), a group of three audience members changed the tone entirely during the question period to raise an issue irrelevant to the topic at hand, vexing the speaker with their issue.
Interestingly the new topic did not resonate with the audience or myself, I thought they must be paid shills of the Israeli lobby.
However, my ignorance of their issue is irrelevant, perhaps they spoke of Lebanon or Gaza … but somehow I don’t think so.
So there must be room allowed for critical speech, and time to evaluate it afterwards.
That said, I agree with b. that this is just weird, but people are going to say what they are going to say.
Bernhard’s point is still relevant, I think it looks like the Israeli lobby rising up in defense of the United States and her policies. Just what an ally should do!

Posted by: jonku | Aug 7 2007 8:34 utc | 2

@charmicarmicat – welcome – I had changed the headline several times before posting and have now changed it again to “Another Rightwing-Jewish Chavez Smear”.
I hope that makes the point more clear.
I can not change it to “Israeli” because it is the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles that is doing the smear in concert with the ADL and other jewish U.S. organisations. These are financed by U.S. money. They identify themselves as jewish. They are NOT Israeli.
They don’t even do it in the Israeli interest, but to further rightwing U.S. foreign policy against Chavez by playing the holocaust card.
I do know that most of the jewish people in the U.S. do not support such. I suspect that many Israelis do not support such either.

Posted by: b | Aug 7 2007 9:19 utc | 3

Dear Friends,
I live in Buenos Aires (Argentina) and i heard Chavez Statement. Wasn’t very politicaly correct. But it wasn’t really a threat against jewish people.
The Question was: What do you think about the jewish community being angry about his ties with Iran?
He answer -with a little bit of irony- that being angry is not good for anybody.
Now, all the distortion, and all the free asociation, is -as the Monthy Pyton used to say- “for something completely different.”
Still, there is a big posibility with a good proportion of the Agentinian jewish comunity that dislike Hugo Chavez. Probably a very similar proportion as the one that dislikes president Kirchner.
Saludos,
Ric.

Posted by: ricky esteves | Aug 7 2007 9:57 utc | 4

The most sickening irony of all this is that while the zionists are running around the world banging on the “all Iranians are Anti Semitic” drum (their use of anti-semitic not mine), and regurgitating all the usual lies about Iranians being holocaust deniers, Israel which was set up as a homeland for refugees who survived the Holocaust, is currently advocating starving the remaining 120,000 Holocaust survivors with a miserable $20 a month pension.
Thousands of demonstrators including at least 500 survivors marched through Jerusalem on Sunday to protest this pittance. Well that is according to the Candadian Broadcasting Corporation which has no particular ax to grind on this issue.
The New York Times – a rag of a paper which thrives on pushing the zionist barrow, and therefore does have an ax to grind, tells a different story. It describes a coupla dozen survivors amongst a few hundred demonstrators. The limited footage I have seen of this demonstration makes me more inclined to go with CBC.
So many issues arise out of the confluence of these stories. You will note that the CBC story tells us that the 83 shekels ($20) per month figure was arrived at by divvying up a US$23 million supplementary grant given Israel by US taxpayers from this year. The plan is to increase the stipend year by year as the survivors die out.
Is this sick or what? Where are all those millions which Germany, Switzerland, and Austria anted up going? Into Likud friends’ back pockets as development grants for stealing Palestinian land? It sure as hell isn’t going where it was intended, providing security for holocaust survivors in their old age.
In fact it is easy to argue that the reparation money which hasn’t been directly stolen by the crooks in power is being used to contribute to the increasing insecurity of these holocaust survivors, as it gets blown on heating up the relationship between Israel and it’s neighbours.
Similar in many ways to what these pricks are trying to do when they bait Iran. Olmert and co obviously don’t give a flying fuck about the Jewsish people who have been living in Iran for centuries. They are trying to sacrifice the Iranian Jews by cranking up other Iranians in the hope that they will turn on their Jewish fellow citizens. That would be a great excuse for an attack on Iran. Too bad about the Iranian Jews but you get that on the big jobs.
There has been no sign of that happening so the fact there are thousands of Jews who have been living in Iran relatively peacefully for centuries is avoided by Olmert and his cronies in the western media. It will be ignored until if and when some crazy Iranian acting on his own vents his frustration on Iranian Jews. The Iranian authorities would have been doing everything in their power to ensure that doesn’t happen. But that would be ignored by Israel-USuk if some crazy does attack any Iranian Jews.
This neo-con Israeli regime has shown us time and time again that it regards it’s holocaust survivors as nothing more than useful props to be wheeled out when a propaganda point needs to be made.
Hell they left the holocaust survivors who had arrived by way of the post 1990 Russian migration, completely off the list of pension recipients – until realpolitik prevailed.
likud receives considrable support from those old Russian – new Israelis. Now every Russian emigre old enough to have been through WW2 is regarded as a holocaust survivor, even if they hadn’t been anywhere near the Nazis, much less the camps.
When are all the Jewish people around the world going to wake up to this madness? As far as I can comprehend Likud’s situation in Israel is precarious and they only survive thanks to support from corrupt hacks out of the other parties, such as Shimon Peres, plus a big gerrymander which favours the likes of the Russian emigres while screwing the Kibbutzim.
Yet so many non-Israeli Jews who should be able to see this ugly picture a lot more objectively than Israelis, still cheer on the rabid zionist insanity that Likud hides behind while it robs Jews and Arabs blind.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 7 2007 10:39 utc | 5

Another excellent post by Bernhard, with broad implications. And excellent comments by all, and welcome charmicarmicat!
To continue slightly off topic on Debs is dead’s comment regarding what may come of the Jews in Iran if these political nuts have their way. Here, in light of confrontation in lieu of cooperation over decades, is now what is left of the Jews in Iraq.
This report is from 2003, and there is probably no need for a report today.
Some snippets below:

By the late 1940s, in what became modern Iraq, Jews numbered more than 250,000. Many were successful merchants, traders and bankers. Today, in Baghdad, just 35 Jews remain….
[snip]
… beginning in 1979, Emad Levy and his father say conditions actually improved for the remaining Jews in Baghdad. “Despite his unrelenting attacks against Zionism, Saddam took a special interest in the Jewish community and made sure those who harmed them were severely punished,” Raz says.
Today, however, Emad Levy thinks of just one thing: escape. “Because I have no future here,” he says. “I want to (be) married. I want to study my Hebrew.”
But it’s unlikely Emad Levy will leave without his father — at 82, Ezra Levy is too old to survive the journey. “I haven’t that power to go now,” Ezra Levy says. “I am empty.”

Posted by: Rick | Aug 7 2007 13:21 utc | 6

Israel which was set up as a homeland for refugees who survived the Holocaust, is currently advocating starving the remaining 120,000 Holocaust survivors with a miserable $20 a month pension.
i guess i have a problem w/this because i think using the holocaust as any kind of justification for a pension seems weird.
old people should be taken care of, whether they survived a war or not. any old person living on $20 a month is inhumane, period. i don’t care if they slept thru the war. why are we still hearing about reparations for an event that happened almost 60 plus years ago when there are babies/children/middle age people and seniors starving right now in palestine? because holocaust sells.

Posted by: annie | Aug 7 2007 15:35 utc | 7

rick, the 250,000 jews in iraq were not expelled w/out great complicity w/israel. the zionists cut a deal w/the british which resulted in some bombings and other events that helped ‘encourage’ iraqi jews to immigrate.

Posted by: annie | Aug 7 2007 15:40 utc | 8

@b #3: “I can not change it to “Israeli” because it is the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles that is doing the smear in concert with the ADL and other jewish U.S. organisations. These are financed by U.S. money. They identify themselves as jewish. They are NOT Israeli.” i guess i might be nit picking here but since the s.w.c. and the a.d.l. are financed by u.s. money can we sort of agree that the “intelligence” is originating from israel? as i said the israeli lobby is mighty strong in this (the u.s.) country and i have every reason to believe that any disinformation regarding middle east policy is put out there with agreement of the various israeli agencies. so yes both the s.w.c. and the a.d.l. are financed by u.s. money but they are truly run by israeli interests. as i said, nit picking 🙂
thank you all for the warm welcome!

Posted by: charmicarmicat | Aug 8 2007 6:09 utc | 9

borev.net points out the parallel to the NYTs parroting charges of anti-semitism in the sandinista govt back in the 1980s.

Although President Reagan said in a televised address Sunday night that the Nicaraguan Government had persecuted Jews, several outside investigations have found the charge baseless. The President, in his speech on aiding the Nicaraguan rebels, said that Managua’s only synagogue had been ”desecrated and firebombed” and that the ”entire Jewish community” had been ”forced to flee Nicaragua.”

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