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July 31, 2007
Prop-aganda – Follow The Trail

To push through, and possibly increasing, the recent U.S. arms and cash gift to Israel, some prop-aganda effort is needed. Following one aspect of this effort, I found this amusing trail.

In June 2007, during the Paris Air Show, the air industry publication ‘Aviation Week’ reported in a side story on a rumor: With Its U.S. Jets Aging, Iran Appears to be Close to a 250-Sukhoi Order. As the publication remarked, major components of the Sukhoi SU-30 plane in question come from Thales, a french arms producer, and Paris would have to give its okay for the deal. While the standoff about Iranian uranium enrichment continues, such a green light from France, and thereby such a deal, would be unlikely.

There are always such sales rumors at any industry show and in this case even hard facts not to believe in it. So everybody soon forgot about this rumor but some smart folks in Israel.

On July 27th, just a day before the announcement of a huge U.S. arms and cash gift to Israel and a proposed bige arms sale to Arab Gulf states, the Israeli disinformation site DEBKAfile reported: Iran buys 250 long-distance Sukhoi fighter-bombers, 20 fuel tankers, from Russia

Tehran and the Russian Rosoboronexport arms group are about to sign a mammoth arms deal running into tens of billions of dollars for the sale to Tehran of 250 Su-30MKM warplanes and 20 IL-78 MKI fuel tankers. DEBKAfile’s military sources report Iran has stipulated delivery of the first aircraft before the end of 2007.

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Okay – the DEBKA folks do read Aviation Week. The tankers they throw in increase the reach and the threat into Europe.

On Juli 30, the baton gets picked up by the right-wing Jerusalem Post: Reports: Iran to buy jets from Russia

Israel is looking into reports that Russia plans to sell 250 advanced long-range Sukhoi-30 fighter jets to Iran in an unprecedented billion-dollar deal.

According to reports, in addition to the fighter jets, Teheran also plans to purchase a number of aerial fuel tankers that are compatible with the Sukhoi and capable of extending its range by thousands of kilometers. Defense officials said the Sukhoi sale would grant Iran long-range offensive capabilities.

A day later the usual suspects in the U.S. follow up. The Navy Times repeats parts of the Jerusalem Post report and expands on it:

Iran is in negotiations with Russia to buy 250 state-of-the-art fighter jets, an Israeli newspaper reported, in a pointed response to a new American bid to sell billions of dollars’ worth of weapons to potential Iranian adversaries in the Middle East.

The English-language Jerusalem Post of Israel reported Monday that top Israeli defense officials are investigating the potential Iran-Russia deal, in which Iran would pay $1 billion for about a dozen squadrons’ worth of Sukhoi Su-30 “Flanker” fighter-bombers. As a part of the deal, Iran would also buy aerial tanker planes that could extend the fighters’ range.

Also based on the JPost story the Defense Tech site asks: Is Iran This Cold War’s India?

By tomorrow a swarm of mil-bloggers will have picked up those sources and will discuss the ever expanding deadly threat from Iran.

But most likely, little to nothing of the report is true.

While Iran could certainly use some SU-30s to replace the 1970s junk its air force is currently trying to fly, 250 is a number that is certainly much too high. As the SU-30 is already a long range fighter, the fuel tankers DEBKAfile adds to the original Aviation Week story, only make sense if Iran wants to bomb Berlin. Somehow I doubt Tehran is planing for that.

DEBKA says the price would be "tens of billions", Jerusalem Post names no price and the Navy Times magically comes up with 1 billion. The numbers are wrong.

In 2003 Malaysia bought 18 Su-30MKM for $900 million with some services included. Given that price tag of $50 million a piece and and some $30 million per tanker, Iran would have to pay $13 billion for the rumored purchase. "Tens of billions" is just as wrong as 1 billion and while cutting domestic gas subsidies Tehran would certainly have trouble to explain such an expense to its people.

But back to prop-agenda. An old industry rumor of doubtable value is relaunched and exaggerated as a threat not only to Israel but also to Europe by a Mossad controlled site just a day before a $30 billion U.S. tax payer gift to Israel is announced.

The Jerusalem Post reliably amplifies it and thereby gives it enough credibility to be repeated in the U.S. media. Every instance adds a bit of bells and whistles and in the end a serious enemy threat will have been created out of thin air.

Will Iran buy some SU-30? That is indeed possible – maybe ten a year over a decade, IF the French agree. But that would be a force that in no way would be able to threaten any U.S. ally.

The only reason the industry rumor was re-launched now is to justify the transfers of U.S. tax dollars to Israeli pockets. As this is so easy to do, one wonders why the Israelis don’t try it more often …

Comments

of course Syriana is a fictional movie and in no way represents real life but there was one telling scene in the movie where an “Arab” leader explained how and why his country bought arms or equipment or whatever needed to be moved out of the inventory from the US. He didn’t ask for it but was convinced in a Don Corleone way that it would be a good thing for him to buy these things from the US.
I suspect that KSA is not seeking any new military equipment and the stuff they are getting is going to be inferior to the US and Israeli gear. But they have to pay for their toys while Israel and Egypt get theirs for free.
in addition to getting screwed over the Saudis have to also hear how they are not doing enough to help the US win in Iraq and how they are the cause of all the misery in the world.
how much will it take until they say “the hell with it” and quit going along?
I suppose if it were up to the regular folks there and not the fat and lazy princes they would have done that already.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jul 31 2007 20:50 utc | 1

nice round-up

Posted by: slothrop | Jul 31 2007 21:39 utc | 2

@ D of S;
While its not likely to ever happen, I would love someday to see a picture of King Abdullah and V Putin shaking hands over a headline reading “Saudis Announce Multi-Billion Russian Arms Deal.”
For some, it would give a whole new meaning to coronary ischemia.

Posted by: Lysander | Jul 31 2007 22:38 utc | 3

yep. all the points you make are very valid. maybe ten a year is a little on the low side (Iran really needs to beef up its air force and ten a year ain’t gonna do the job), but yeah – a multi year contract with some tankers thrown in (-: they can be used for other things besides bombing Berlin 🙂 is probably the basis for all this. and of course the ‘deadly threat’ is a load of bull – the usual Neocon ‘oi veh!’ paranoia 😉

Posted by: vineyardsaker | Jul 31 2007 23:16 utc | 4

From Russia’s Kommersant: The U.S. Arms Its Middle Eastern Allies

The Israeli press reports caused consternation in Russia. “It’s either a provocation or it’s delusion,” Dmitry Shugaev, chief of staff of the Rosoboronexport general director told Kommersant. A Sukhoi spokesman told Kommersant that “It is a provocation by the Israeli media. here are no negotiations with Iran for the delivery of fighter planes, much less such a huge lot.” Nor does the Russian Foreign Ministry or Defense Ministry know anything about them. A high-placed representative of the United Aviation Construction Corp. told Kommersant that filling such a large order in the next few years would not be possible even theoretically. “There are only three plants in Russia that assembler fighter planes of the Su-30 type – in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Irkutsk and Novosibirsk, and they are all engaged with orders. So there is no one to make 250 planes for Iran,” he said. Independent experts also say that such an order is unfillable. “Even with good market conditions for oil prices, Iran isn’t likely to come up with the necessary sum. Two hundred fifty fighters of the Su-303MKM type – that’s about $10 billion,” noted Konstantin Makienko of the Center for the Analysis of Strategy and Technology.

Posted by: b | Aug 1 2007 5:00 utc | 5

Sorry-but I need some clarification on how France is involved. The Su-30, etc. is coming from Russia, yes? So what role for a French ‘oui’?

Posted by: pepsified thinker | Aug 1 2007 11:20 utc | 6

@pepsified thinker – the cockpit electronics, displays and software are from Thales, as are some other parts. Hard to fly without those …

Posted by: b | Aug 1 2007 11:34 utc | 7

along the lines of Dan at 1: Isn’t it so that the sales to SA are pretty much the same as usual, but of course Israel gets more? And what do the Saudis do with all this junk anyway? Israel takes care of its ‘stuff’ I have read, but Saudi?

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 1 2007 16:16 utc | 8

And what do the Saudis do with all this junk anyway?
From personal experience: Live shooting with tanks and real ammunition on anything that doesn’t fire back is pure fun (and f…… expensive).
Seriously – the Saudi princes love to fly and to shoot. On the other hand the King doesn’t want the military to become too important and to have bad ideas, so a lot of what is bought, like Patriot missile defense stuff, is of no use at all and sits in the warehouse until it falls apart.
It is also typical that some 20% of the money on the table is collected by the various helpers. Prince Bandar made a decent personal billion in the Saudi fighter deal with BAE.
These businesses can be seen as a “rent” the Saudis pay for the “security” the U.S. provides them. And Dan is right, that is a bit Don Corleone like as there are always some U.S. folks (Indyk at Brookings for example) who openly think of taking the oil rich eastern shia provinces away from SA.
Better to buy the weapons than lose that source of income …

Posted by: b | Aug 1 2007 17:04 utc | 9

Iran Denies Purchase of Russian Fighters

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Iran’s Defense Minister Brigadier General Mostafa Mohammad Najjar here Wednesday dismissed reports about purchase of 250 fighter jets from Russia as baseless and a part of psychological warfare against Iran.

Posted by: b | Aug 2 2007 12:05 utc | 10