Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 18, 2007
Russia’s Terrorizing Market Prices

According to Simon Jenkins, asking for market prices is terrorism.

Russia will not lay aside oil and gas as weapons to terrorise former colonies on its western border, any more than the west is going to stop attacking Putin for suppressing free speech.
Simon Jenkins in today’s Guardian

Let’s consider this terror. In 2006 U.S. average wellhead prices for natural gas were about $275 per 1000 cubic meters.

The old price Ukraine paid was about 486% lower than Turkey paid Gazprom (Turkey pays $243 to Russia, $236 to Iran for gas).
Russia-Ukraine gas dispute

An hour after Gazprom threatened to cut off supplies, the firm announced that Tbilisi had agreed to pay $235 per 1,000 cubic metres, up from $110.
Georgia ‘agrees Russia gas bill’

The deal more than doubles the amount Belarus will pay for Russian natural gas in 2007, and will raise it to European levels by 2011.
Belarus, Russia Sign Last-Minute Gas Deal

There you have it – Russia threatened Georgia, Belarus and the Ukraine by asking them to pay the market price for its natural gas. For Jenkins this is the equivalent of suicide-bombing in the London tube.

It is terrorizing.

Depicting these countries as ‘former colonies’ as Jenkins does is ahistoric. Ukraine has been in a union with Russia since the signing the Treaty of Pereyaslav in 1654. Belarus was annexed by Imperial Russia in 1795. Before that it was not independent but under the rule of the Poland and Lithuania union. Georgia was incorporated into the Russian Empire in 1800 which prevented it from being conquested by Persia.

Until the 1990s these countries were integral parts of the Russian Empire for hundreds of years. They never were colonies like those the British Empire exploited.

But Jenkins’ tirade fits the current British propaganda theme about the nasty Russians who don’t extradite their citizens based on flimsy accusations.

Mark Leonard, director of the European Council on Foreign Relations, said that Britain had been less successful than Russia in convincing its European partners of the merits of its case. "Quite a lot of people are convinced by the Russian argument that we lecture them about the rule of law and now we’re asking them to overrule their own constitution," he said.

The rules of markets and constitutional laws – truely terrorizing.

Comments

Great Britain was never about free trade or free markets: it was all about controlling trade and monopolizing markets. No wonder they get annoyed at someone being more successful than themselves at it.
Nonetheless, there is good grounds for the current diplomatic row between Russia and the UK: the Polonium attacks were intended as a calling card. It was a clear message to anyone who threatened the Russian government that they would be dealt with quite nastily.
Now their refusal to extradite also indicates that they have a lot to keep covered up.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jul 18 2007 10:54 utc | 1

@raphieboy – any evidence for the statement that the Russian government was behind the Polonium attacks?
I think it was so clumsy and left so many trails that it is more likely someone else did it and laid that trail.
Berezovsky’s and his personal spy Litvinenko certainly have/had lots of enemies within the oligarchy and Yeltzin mafia. There is no need to assume a state plot.
Indeed one can make the case that Berezovsky himself had good reason to stir up something against Russia.
At the same time as Litvinenko was poisened Britain and Russia signed an MoU (not a treaty) that would have allowed for easier extraditions of exiles like Mr. Berezovsky to Moscow. As the FT reported (Nov. 2006):

A legal memorandum of understanding was signed in London a week ago by Ken Macdonald, Britain’s director of public prosecutions, and Alexander Zvyaginsev, Russia’s deputy prosecutor-general.
It will enable Russian prosecutors to co-operate directly with the UK Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) when drawing up extradition requests to ensure they are correctly formulated and include supporting evidence.

Britain’s refusal to extradite high-profile exiles such as Boris Berezovsky, the former oligarch, and Ahmed Zakayev, the Chechen leader, has become a significant irritant in relations between the two countries. The issue has been regularly raised at ministerial meetings and by Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, in talks with Tony Blair, the British prime minister. Yet it is not clear that the memorandum will change much – though it may lead to new extradition requests for some exiles.

There was some danger to Mr Berezovsky for finally being held to account for his embazzlement of billions.
That is now “off the table”.
With the help of the (expensive) media campaign (Berezovsky provided to news agencies the hospital pictures of Litvinenko through a paid public-relations firm) around the death of Litvinenko . Cui bono?
There Russian refusal to extradite has two good reasons:
– The Russian constitution forbids the government to extradite citizens in absend of a proven crime and extradition treaties ($63/2).
– The evidence the British have presented to make their case is said to be very, very thin.
Britain could extradite Berezovsky anytime as he has only asylum status in Britain and has several times violated the rules for such by calling for violent revolution in Russia. There is no legal obstacle there, just the money stolen from the Russian people that Berezovsky in spending in London.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2007 15:49 utc | 2

These creepy dominators, these shallow critics of anyone who doesn’t please them, trumpeting from a crumbled imperialist base, blearily ostentatious in the proclamation of their privilege, their assumed right to lord it over others, their lunatic demands that aim to but barely cover rapine, their guns pointed by unwilling soldiers, their sweaty assumed ignorance (wipe, wipe) about children in camps, shot, raped, burnt up…their blitheness about genocide as a necessary fatality…
They will loose. I will see to it personally. So, delusions of grandeur. Yes.
Putin is fed up. He has no delusions like mine. He is managing on the ground – as he can.

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 18 2007 16:00 utc | 3

This is a coordinated (paid) anti-Russian campaign.
The new British PM Brown has to prove some “backbone” and take the headlines away from Iraq and Afghanistan. Berezovsky wants to gain more fame to be safe.
Hitman at the Hilton hotel

A RUSSIAN hitman planned to execute an outspoken “enemy of Moscow” at the Hilton Hotel on London’s Park Lane, The Sun can reveal.
He sought to shoot exiled tycoon Boris Berezovsky — who has called for the violent overthrow of Russian president Vladimir Putin — in the back of the head.

RAF scrambles to intercept Russian bombers

RAF fighter jets were scrambled to intercept two Russian strategic bombers heading for British airspace yesterday, as the spirit of the Cold War returned to the North Atlantic once again.
The incident, described as rare by the RAF, served as a telling metaphor for the stand-off between London and Moscow over the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.

Both papers, the Sun and the Times are owned by Murdoch …

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2007 16:42 utc | 4

They never were colonies like those the British Empire exploited.
oh brother.

Posted by: slothrop | Jul 18 2007 16:59 utc | 5

the berezvosky & rupert murdoch are bosom pals is completely consistant. the godfather of russia meets the murderer of the media
their liquidity, their way at arriving at it – was & remains – wholly criminal

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jul 18 2007 17:07 utc | 6

b,
Polonium is not something you can obtain at any black market; it was quite clearly a calling card, one from people with contacts at a very high level.
But the link with Berezovsky and Zakaev is very under-reported at this juncture. And Russia is playing with a completely different set of cards than the USSR, and we in the West are still using our old Cold War-era deck.
Russia no longer has an international ideology to sell: they are playing to the home crowd, who like it firm, nationalistic and even jingoistic.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jul 18 2007 18:05 utc | 7

Polonium is not something you can obtain at any black market; it was quite clearly a calling card, one from people with contacts at a very high level.
And people with enough money to pay for such contacts … The traces of Polonium said to be found were minimal. I’m not sure they were such at all.
It is interesting to note that the UK joined the US in bashing Russia and killing Iraqis only after they actually recognized that they don’t have energy independence anymore. I.e. they sold off all their north sea oil and gas as fast as they could and now have to look for new “reserves”.
Until the UK started the (US delegated) campaign against Russia’s “energy monopoly” nobody in Europe was worried about it. That alone tells me something …

@sloth – 5 – well – for starters, the Britain was never ruled by a king from a colony like India.
In whatever way you would like to argue that my statement with facts (I know, that’s not your primary trade) I’m certain to win on that.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2007 18:30 utc | 8

b,
the Polonium was enough to kill Litvinenko in any case.
In the old days, the USSR had to put up a front that made it at least seem like a cooperative potential ally and good neighbor to developing countries. And Capitalism had to at least pay lip service to some kind of social conscience.
Now the gloves are off, capitalism has shown its true face, and Russia is no longer bound by the restraints of internationalism. We are up for a new round of posturing, but at least the military threshhold has been lowered considerably.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jul 18 2007 19:03 utc | 9

you’re out of your mind. millions of people starved to death to prove that ukraine and georgia would remain republics of the s.u.
c’mon. what’s the point, anyway? you defend putin who’s king of a kleptocracy, whose own security murders journalists.
c’mon.

Posted by: slothrop | Jul 18 2007 19:10 utc | 10

you’re out of your mind. millions of people starved to death to prove that ukraine and georgia would remain republics of the s.u.
Did they? – Any prove for your statement? Any link, book, source or whatever your statement is based upon?
The “point” of MoA is to provide sources, to learn. As you do not either of these, why should I care about your unfounded claims?

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2007 19:32 utc | 11

b,
must we provide documentary evidence for any statements made about the Holocaust as well? In any case, Russia and its succesor the USSR was no better or worse than any other Imperial powers of the XVIII – XX century.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jul 18 2007 19:55 utc | 12

ok

[Lenin in 1891 – 92] spoke out sharply and definitely against feeding the starving. His position, to the extent that I can now remember it, and I remember it well since I frequently argued with him about it, was as follows. The famine is the direct result of a definite social system. While that system exists such famines are inevitable. To eliminate famines is possible, but only by destroying this system. Being in this sense inevitable, the current famine is playing the role of a progressive factor. By destroying the peasant economy and driving the peasant from the country to the town, the famine creates a proletariat and facilitates the
industrialisation of the region, which is progressive. Furthermore the famine can and should be a progressive factor not only economically. It will force the peasant to reflect on the bases
of the capitalist system, demolish faith in the tsar and tsarism, and consequently in due course make the victory of the revolution easier. . . Psychologically all this talk about feeding the
starving and so on essentially reflects the usual sugary sentimentality of our intelligentsia.
V.Vodovozov (1925)1
The grain procurements are a lever with the help of which we achieve the socialist reeducation of the collective farmer. We teach him to think differently, no longer as the owner of grain but as a articipant in socialist competition, consciously and in a disciplined way relating to his obligations to the proletarian state. The grain procurements are that part of our work by which we take account of the collective farmer. . . and put the peasant in the
channel of proletarian discipline.
Speaker at the June 1933 plenum of the Lower Volga kraikom2

Posted by: slothrop | Jul 18 2007 20:13 utc | 13

must we provide documentary evidence for any statements made about the Holocaust as well
Yes, we do!
Because there will always be people doubting it (not me in principle but -maybe numbers- the holocaust was/is unique in being industrial killing for ethnic cleansing).
Any attempt to assert “historic proof” while not backing it by serious data and sources is doubtable and will be challenged by people profiting from doing so.
The first time I read about Auschwitz, in my early teens, it was said some 6 million were killed there. When I walked around the grounds of Auschwitz, the signs said 4 millions. Now the historic accepted number is some 1.3 million. Do you really wonder why some lunatics claim that to be a downtrend that will end in Zero?
With regard to morality, 6 down to 1 million is certainly no difference. But with regard to the size and truth about what happend, the number is important.
To exaggerate such numbers is to disregard the victims for political (financial) gains.
We should stay with the truth as far as we know it and argue for what we know. We should not deny argumentation about it but have our facts ready to prove our point of view.
If we do not have the facts or founded suspicions, why are we argueing at all but for some political gain?

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2007 20:22 utc | 14

@slothrop – 13
The quote you are providing says NOTHING, exactly ZERO about a special role of Ukraine, Georgia or Belarus in teh Russian Empire.
I said these countries: never were colonies like those the British Empire exploited.
Thanks for emphazising my point of view.
Your quote may (I haven’t verified it) show some ruthlessness of Lenin & Co against all people. But there is not a word in what you provide hat disregards my claim and furthers you comment against it. There is no racial or geographic reference within the quote you provide at all.
Ukraine, Georgia, Belarus were never seen as colonies but parts of Russia.
Obviously you have nothing to counter that statement and you need to retreat to something totally different – arguments some Lenin (that wasn’t his name at that time anyway) made some fifteen years before he gained any political traction.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2007 20:39 utc | 15

to be sure, ukraine was basically a colony of russia, depending on how “little russia” was defined geographically and culturally.
Daedalus, Vol. 126, Issue 3 – A New Europe for the Old? – Summer 1997, Ukraine: From an Imperial Periphery to a Sovereign State
pp. 85 – 120:

Did Ukraine then become part of Russia three and a half centuries ago? Only a small part. Before 1648, virtually all Ukrainians lived within the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, whose eastern frontier extended to the east of the Dnieper River. Only after 1667 did a part of that vast territory – today’s regions of Poltava and Chernihiv, with the city of Kiev – come under rule of the tsar in Moscow. After 1667, Warsaw ruled more Ukrainian territory and more Ukrainians than did Moscow. The land to the west of the Dnieper remained within the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth until 1793-1795. The Polish nobility was the dominant group in the area until 1830, if not 1863, and the Poles retained great social and cultural influence until after the Russian revolutions of 1917.(4)

Before long, the Russians began to understand the connection between the Polish and the Ukrainian questions. They did so in a manner characteristic of a police mentality. Drawing a number of conclusions from the 1863 Polish uprising, which was finally suppressed by the summer of 1864, the government in St. Petersburg modified the terms of the emancipation of 1861 in regions that had been the scene of the Polish uprising; further, it announced a number of anti-Catholic measures. St. Petersburg also concluded that the Ukrainian movement was a product of the Polish plot to dismember the Russian nation.
In 1863 the so-called Valuyev ukaz, named after the minister of the interior, introduced the first restrictions on the use of the Ukrainian language. The government, which enjoyed the support of a large segment of the public in this respect, concluded that the Ukrainian phenomenon was dangerous – even though the Ukrainians limited their activities to literary and scholarly pursuits, in marked contrast to the Poles. What the Ukrainians were doing, some Russians came to realize, subverted the very unity of the Russian nation, which in the view of educated Russians consisted of three major ethnographic or folkloristic subdivisions – the Great Russians, the Little Russians, and the White or Belo-Russians – yet was one nation, united in its common higher culture and in politics.
The Russian government did not believe that the Ukrainian movement was an expression of any authentic and legitimate aspirations of the population of Little Russia and chose to treat it as a product of foreign (in this case, Polish) “intrigue.” This set the tone for how Russia would view Ukrainian nationalism for decades to come: in the future, “Ukrainianism” would be viewed as a product of German, Austrian, or Vatican plots, besides being seen as, in one way or another, an originally Polish invention.
In 1876 the imperial government went even farther in its identification of Ukrainian language and culture with political separatism when, in a secret edict signed by the tsar at Ems, it forbade the publication of Ukrainian writings and the performance of Ukrainian plays and songs. According to Grabowicz, in taking this step the Russian government helped, albeit ironically, to raise Ukrainian literature out of its provincial mode, giving it newfound political import by casting it as something subversive, separatist, or protonationalist: “It goes without saying, of course, that these qualities must already have existed – more or less openly, as in Shevchenko, or in potentia.”(27)
The model of the Russian nation and society promoted by the tsarist state encountered challenges from two directions. One might say figuratively that there emerged, in approximately the same historical period, two alternative ways, or models, for seceding from the empire. One path of secession amounted to the rejection of, and eventually a challenge to, the fundamental principle on which the empire was built – autocracy. This became the basis of a deep cleavage in Russian identity, as revealed in the title of Alexander V. Riasanovsky’s book A Parting of Ways, which examines the relations between the government and Russia’s educated elite in the first half of the nineteenth century.(28) The other mode of “secession” was represented by the Ukrainian idea.

note the word “secession”
after the revolution, the “autonomous republic” was ruled by the communist party, and ukraine’s subsumption into empire was total–a brutal fact demonstrated by among other events, the murdering of kulaks and peasants, mass deportations, and complete disregard for ukranian sovereignty.
so, yeah, you’re wrong.
but thanks. more than i wanted to know about ukraine today.

Posted by: slothrop | Jul 18 2007 21:19 utc | 16

There is no racial or geographic reference within the quote you provide at all.
btw, that article i linked to on the famines is amazing history. i was unaware there is an ongoing debate about stalin’s intentions during the early 30s famine. it seems reasonable to assume the famine was used as an object lesson to discipline ukraine, white russia, etc. but there is no smoking gun documentation of these intentions.

Posted by: slothrop | Jul 18 2007 22:17 utc | 17

My family lived through the Ukraine famine and it killed millions. It was all in the name of industrialization. In order to raise money to build factories they took the people’s harvest and simply sold it leaving them to starve.

Posted by: Sam | Jul 19 2007 5:04 utc | 18

On something I touched above —
How Murdoch had a hotline to the PM in the run-up to Iraq war

In 2003, Mr Blair phoned the owner of The Times and The Sun on 11 and 13 March, and on 19 March, the day before Britain and the United States invaded Iraq. The war was strongly supported by Murdoch-owned newspapers around the world. The day after two of the calls, The Sun launched vitriolic attacks on the French President Jacques Chirac. The Government quoted him as saying he would “never” support military action against Saddam Hussein, a claim hotly disputed by France.
Mr Blair and Mr Murdoch spoke again on 29 January 2004, the day after publication of the Hutton report into the death of Dr David Kelly. Their next conversation was on 25 April 2004, just after Mr Blair bowed to pressure led by The Sun for him to promise a referendum on the proposed EU constitution. They also spoke on 3 October that year, after Mr Blair said he would not fight a fourth general election.
The Cabinet Office also said Mr Blair had three meetings with Richard Desmond, the proprietor of Express Newspapers, between January 2003 and February 2004.

In Alastair Campbell’s diaries, published last week, the former spin doctor described a Downing Street dinner for Mr Murdoch and his sons, James and Lachlan, in 2002. “Murdoch pointed out that his were the only papers that gave us support when the going got tough. ‘I’ve noticed,’ said TB,” Mr Campbell wrote. Lance Price, Mr Campbell’s deputy, called Mr Murdoch “the 24th member of the [Blair] Cabinet”. He added: “His presence was always felt. No big decision could ever be made inside No10 without taking account of the likely reaction of three men, Gordon Brown, John Prescott and Rupert Murdoch.

Posted by: b | Jul 19 2007 6:18 utc | 19

@Sam – 18 – The famine of 1920-21 or 1932-33 during Collectivisation?

About 40 million people were affected by the food shortages including areas near Moscow where mortality rates increased by 50%. The center of the famine, however, was Ukraine and surrounding regions, including the Don, the Kuban, the Northern Caucasus and Kazakhstan where the toll was one million dead. The countryside was affected more than cities, but 120,000 died in Kharkiv, 40,000 in Krasnodar and 20,000 in Stavropol.

Posted by: b | Jul 19 2007 6:37 utc | 20

@b
Five years ago, I wrote a column about the unknown Holocaust in Ukraine. I was shocked to receive a flood of mail from young Americans and Canadians of Ukrainian descent telling me that until they read my article, they knew nothing of the 1932–33 genocide in which Stalin’s regime murdered 7 million Ukrainians and sent 2 million to concentration camps.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis45.html
Here’s a little tidbit from your link:
Stalin also wished to embark of a program of rapid heavy industrialisation which required larger surpluses to be extracted from the agricultural sector in order to feed a growing industrial work force and to pay for imports of machinery.

Posted by: Sam | Jul 19 2007 10:39 utc | 21

Sam,
was it *really* seven million? Or has the number since been whittled down to a *mere* two million? These sort of questions are important, perhaps we could hold a “Ukranian Holocaust” conference in Turkmenistan to settle them…
And just how many Texans died at the Alamo and how many US cavalrymen did Sitting Bull wipe out at the Battle of the Little Big Horn? The world cries out for answers!

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jul 19 2007 15:41 utc | 22

why the snark ralphieboy?

Posted by: dan of steele | Jul 19 2007 17:09 utc | 23

dos,
check out #14. The point is that a whole shitload of people were murdered and those responsible often did not have to answer for it.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jul 19 2007 17:48 utc | 24

@Sam – I seriously doubt that 7 million number as the only source for it seems to be one Eric Margolis. In his column on a libertarian website there is no source for this number. Where does it come from?
Let me repeat my big point from above:

Until the 1990s these countries were integral parts of the Russian Empire for hundreds of years. They never were colonies like those the British Empire exploited.

The English Empire included India, South Africa and tens of others countries remote form it with only Scotland, Wales and Ireland being exceptions.
The Russian Empire did stick to continueous land expension and did hold much longer onto those areas it expanded to. It also really integrated lots of those. The peasants arount Moscow were not better off than the peasants around Kiew. Neither when the czar ruled nor under the communist rule of the Georgian dictator Josef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili.
The people exploited in the remote countries of the English empire were not given the same status as the people in England. (That is supposed to be the reason for some tea party in Boston.)
That is all I said in my statement above.
Back to the 7 million – if you have any sources that can confirm the claim, I am very willing to listen to those and accept them if they are founded.
If not, I’ll stick to the numbers that historians generally seem to accept.
As for my view on the holocaust, which I have argued in comments here several times, please see the current fornt page piece.

Posted by: b | Jul 19 2007 18:55 utc | 25

b @ 4 , This is a coordinated (paid) anti-Russian campaign.
Yes, blatantly so. Mike Whitney fills in another piece:
Kissinger’s Secret Meeting With Putin

When a political heavyweight, like Henry Kissinger, jets-off on a secret mission to Moscow; it usually shows up in the news.
Not this time.
This time the media completely ignored—or should we say censored—Kissinger’s trip to Russia and his meetings with Russian President Vladimir Putin. In fact, apart from a few short blurps in the Moscow Times and one measly article in the UK Guardian, no major news organization even covered the story. There hasn’t been as much as a peep out of anyone in the American media.
Nothing. That means the meetings were probably arranged by Dick Cheney. The secretive Veep doesn’t like anyone knowing what he’s up to.
Kissinger was accompanied on his junket by a delegation of high-powered political and corporate big-wigs including former Secretary of State George Schultz, former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, former Special Representative for Arms Control, Nonproliferation and Disarmament Ambassador Thomas Graham Jr., former Senator Sam Nunn and Chevron Chairman and Chief Executive Officer David O’Reilly.
(snip)

News article on the visit from last week: Kissinger-led U.S. group attends closed debate at Putin home

Posted by: Alamet | Jul 19 2007 23:59 utc | 26