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July 19, 2007
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Hmm – al’Qaeda is in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia … but now its in Pakistan!
Lunatics … Security Secretary Michael Chertoff makes a good point:No one who has been following the news should have been surprised by the conclusion of U.S. intelligence agencies that al-Qaeda is growing stronger and that the threat that it will stage another major attack against the U.S. homeland is a serious one. Posted by: annie | Jul 19 2007 7:42 utc | 2 Kristi Stassinopoulou, “The Secrets of the Rocks” (YouTube) Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 19 2007 8:21 utc | 3 Kristi Stassinopoulou, “The Secrets of the Rocks” (YouTube) Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 19 2007 8:21 utc | 4 Leader of Al Qaeda group in Iraq was fictional, U.S. military says Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 19 2007 8:31 utc | 5 Guess this makes it official now, Iraq now has a unified nationalist resistance movement, which is incidentally also, anti AQinM and anti USAinM. Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 19 2007 8:54 utc | 6 CNN:”Transformer blast rattles Manhattan Posted by: cur | Jul 19 2007 8:56 utc | 7
How true I wonder how Mr. Chertoff’s gut is holding up under the strain. @6 – the Guradian story about the “united” Iraqi resistance is a bit fishy.
So the guy thinks the US will stay but withdraw? b #10, Posted by: Rick | Jul 19 2007 13:23 utc | 12 Saeb Erekat (sp) on Al Jazeera this afternoon: in the 4 minutes I could bear to watch, mentioned the “illegal coup d’etat” by Hamas about 7 times. He was designated as “chief negotiator” for the new “peace talks”. Looking very rich and spiffy and trying out his “talking points”. I could just sigh, but think I will tear my hair out instead. Orwell would die, if only… Posted by: ww | Jul 19 2007 16:35 utc | 13 Gosh, I am so thankful for b. Posted by: jony_b_cool | Jul 19 2007 17:05 utc | 14 have image, will travel
Posted by: b real | Jul 19 2007 17:48 utc | 16 pinr: Somalia’s Compromised National Reconciliation Conference
shabelle: Somalia peace talks under mortar attacks
Posted by: b real | Jul 19 2007 18:02 utc | 17 My link#6&8, Posted by: anna missed | Jul 19 2007 19:35 utc | 18 Rubbish Bin Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 19 2007 21:47 utc | 19 Latest Executive Order and Abuse of Power Posted by: Monolycus | Jul 19 2007 23:08 utc | 20 Do you mean fourth amendment? Posted by: rjj | Jul 19 2007 23:19 utc | 21 well, shrub lives in public housing already. what are we going to be able to take? Posted by: b real | Jul 20 2007 0:35 utc | 23 So Rupert is going to buy the Wall St Journal. This take over has been touted for a few months now and although various gold plated Bancroft heirs to the Dow_Jones empire have been resisting , like all rich, they are pragmatistic and no one wants to to risk their trust fund on an plainly out-moded concept like media diversity.
So during the run up to the illegal invasion of Iraq, English Prime Minister Tony Bliar was communicating frequently with Murdoch including on the day of the invasion. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jul 20 2007 1:58 utc | 24 Oops it seems that B had already pointed to the article about Murdoch and Bliar’s chats. Sorry bout that. It seems that being a part time MoA contributor is difficult verging on impossible. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jul 20 2007 2:34 utc | 25 Leader of Al Qaeda group in Iraq was fictional, U.S. military says Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 20 2007 3:14 utc | 26 In case you missed it… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 20 2007 6:23 utc | 27 From the comment section @C&L:
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 20 2007 6:28 utc | 28 Broader Privilege Claimed In Firings @ breal #16: Posted by: Malooga | Jul 20 2007 7:46 utc | 30 Debs is Dead: “Anyway despite voluminous accusations there is never much in the way of proof of Murdoch’s abuse of his position. What there was has generally come from drunken washed up and bitter former newspaper editors.” Posted by: Rick | Jul 20 2007 11:44 utc | 31 @Malooga Yeah it’s a damned shame that ever since Leonid’s demise there hasn’t been a cohesive team of burly vodka swilling old players whoopin it up on the diamond with chants like “You think you can beat all our generals? just wait till you meet General Winter.” Posted by: Debs is dead | Jul 20 2007 12:06 utc | 32 Cloned Poster #19
Funny that MSNBC would lead with that headline? Times are a changing … Posted by: Rick | Jul 20 2007 12:28 utc | 33 US ambassador to the UN Khalilzad in an NYT op-ed to U.N.: “We have a problem. Please help us to steal Iraqs oil!”
Nothing suprising there. It is certainly not by chance that robbing oil comes first …
In the base! Wonder if it was a lucky shot or better methodology… Posted by: Alamet | Jul 20 2007 15:12 utc | 35 The surge must be working. You can almost touch the optimism in the air. Posted by: Alamet | Jul 20 2007 16:59 utc | 36 Iraq Slogger:
I can’t tell from the above article if the prison is still in operation or not…
Posted by: Alamet | Jul 20 2007 17:05 utc | 37 Something different: Posted by: Alamet | Jul 20 2007 17:08 utc | 38 Cheney to become president Posted by: beq | Jul 20 2007 17:09 utc | 39 GI goon convicted of murdering an Iraqi gets slap on wrist. I mean, it’s just an wog ya know? Nothing meriting any jail time. Posted by: ran | Jul 20 2007 17:42 utc | 40 Is Associate Press launching a campaign against Obama?
A local account is quite different. but… what about all that intensive humanitarian training that the infantry undergoes in boot camp/basic training? Posted by: b real | Jul 20 2007 20:07 utc | 42 a brief extract from gwb’s blather in nashville on thursday, after he was asked (by a save-dafurian) what the u.s. was going to do about darfur.
to whom much is given, even more is taken Posted by: b real | Jul 21 2007 3:47 utc | 43 b real, #43, Posted by: Rick | Jul 21 2007 4:51 utc | 44 Transcript fuels row over doctor held in Australia on terror charge
The police simply lied, the guy is likely innocent. Bush alters rules for CIA interrogations
Doesn’t make any sense, but that is likely what it’s supposed to do. Over on the Oil Drum (Jerome is a frequent poster) J. Brown (google Oil Drum, ELM, or on their site Export Land Model, or see a quick link graphoilogy and a simple graphic here) has pointed out that oil exporting countries are steadily consuming more; combined with depletion of their own resources, the dotted line, as a projection of the future based on current data, shows a run down to zero in 9 years. Posted by: Noirette | Jul 21 2007 14:51 utc | 47 reposted last link: Posted by: Noirette | Jul 21 2007 14:57 utc | 48 Thanks Noirette – good one. Some real views from soldiers on a 15-month deployment in the heart of the surge. Reporter is from the Guardian but it apparently showed on ABC news. The video is definitely worth watching, both the 4 minute clip of the soldiers challenging Bush or the senate to come see what it is like, and also two comments from mothers of the soldiers. Posted by: brewster_north | Jul 22 2007 1:45 utc | 50 @B your post on Haneef is but the tip of the ice berg. Living with his cousins is a bit of a play with the reality which was that they all at some time stayed at a hostel for newly arrived professionals from the sub-continent. There were times when Haneef was there that one or other of his cousins(the two brothers one a doctor the other an engineer) were also there. This was in sperate rooms, more like a hotel than an apartment. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jul 22 2007 3:43 utc | 51 latest article by the nyt’s jeffrey gettleman on ethiopia’s brutal crackdown on the ogaden region.
the article leaves out crucial context in this paragraph, as the militants in the horn, somalia specificially, are reacting to the illegal invasion & occupation of somalia by ethiopian forces that destroyed the growing islamic unity governance late december (the population of somalia is about 99% muslim). by leaving out this context, the article furthers the western stereotype of irrational bad muslims. and the use of the phrase “breeding ground” just sounds racist. mosquitoes and ungulates have breeding grounds, not people.
Posted by: b real | Jul 22 2007 4:28 utc | 52 Here below are lucid excerpts from a U.S. believer in ‘Conspiracy Theory’ as applied to the Middle East and Israel. I could have written the last 2 paragraphs myself. Reese also mentions the “propaganda based on a misquotation” which I have constantly emphasized in my various comments: Posted by: Parviz | Jul 22 2007 11:11 utc | 53 Just thought I might point out some more hilarious crossed lines between the Neocon propaganda machinery and its regional serfs, as in the following Reuters report: Posted by: Parviz | Jul 22 2007 11:17 utc | 54 Second hit in just three days.
(Link for previous incident @ nr. 35 above.) Posted by: Alamet | Jul 22 2007 15:43 utc | 55 Then there is this from After Downing Street, but I don’t speak militarese and can’t tell if it is plausible cause for alarm or not: Posted by: Alamet | Jul 22 2007 15:47 utc | 56 The navy training story is no more worrying than the forthcoming location of 4 U.S. carriers in the Persian Gulf. I hope it’s ‘intimidation’ at the very worst. God help the Brits, the Americans and the Iranians if a spark lights the tinderbox. Posted by: Parviz | Jul 22 2007 16:03 utc | 57 i’m afraid this is not theatre but we are witnessing the imbeciles walking into war Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jul 22 2007 16:08 utc | 58 If that’s the case, then there’s worse to come, because there’s no way Russia will stay out of it, and you could well see a Turkish invasion of northern Iraq. Iran will also strike hard, and they’re 100 times more organized, effective and lethal militarily than the Iraqis who had been constrained by No-Fly Zones, a U.N. embargo and lack of funds prior to the U.S. invasion. The Taliban and Al Qaeda have been praying for this day. Hizbullah and Hamas will bombard Israel with rockets. The Chinese will also increase the pressure on Taiwan and Hong Kong, and will probably shed their excess Dollars to teach the U.S. a lesson. Posted by: Parviz | Jul 22 2007 16:17 utc | 59 @Alamaet – 56 – dubious – and I do know the militarese.
int’l socialist review: Where is Venezuela going? Chávez and the meaning of twenty-first century socialism
Bolivia: New Economic Model in Progress
Ecuador’s Correa: US no longer “Satan” for Latin America
Peru’s poor lose faith in market-friendly president
Posted by: b real | Jul 23 2007 4:01 utc | 61 Thanks b real – astonishing –
The “western” press always rides on the “islamic party” fearmongering. But that is not the major point. This is the first mildly socialist party in Turkey. The Republican People’s Party is comparable to the Republicans in the U.S. and the Nationalists are radical rightwings. Two Americas, one Maxed Out.
The title should have been, “Thief’s, Vampires, Wolves and Vultures.’ Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 23 2007 5:35 utc | 63 Rick, #44 wrote: Posted by: jj | Jul 23 2007 8:34 utc | 64 didn’t anyone wonder about what drove the Masters of the Universe, as they would have it, to Russia to meet w/Putin recently? All the moreso since it seems to have been censored from our propaganda apparatus. How’s this for a delegation- Posted by: jj | Jul 23 2007 9:03 utc | 65 Oops – here’s the link. Russia and US to Square Off Over Arctic Energy Reserves Posted by: jj | Jul 23 2007 9:07 utc | 66 @ JJ, Rick, et al…
From the recently released Philadelphia Dept. of Human Services planning and budget paper for 2008-09:
When someone is “below the poverty level” they are very, very poor. The federal poverty guidelines are absurd. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 23 2007 9:14 utc | 67 Uncle, I have no problem w/Wall Streeters jumping out of windows again. But I know I won’t survive the incineration of our currency by them. Posted by: jj | Jul 23 2007 9:24 utc | 68 Here’s an interesting discussion of coming collapse from someone who went through the Russian Nightmare. Closing the ‘Collapse Gap’: the USSR was better prepared for peak oil than the US Posted by: jj | Jul 23 2007 9:40 utc | 69 Remember the UK sailors Iran snatched out of its waters?
kwasiorkor in Chicago ? Posted by: jony_b_cool | Jul 23 2007 10:50 utc | 71 R’giaps -link – Bush’s Latest, Ludicrous, Doomed Plan for Israel and Palestine
– recommended – Welcome to Richistan, USA
Well, I see no setback yet … Army Officer Says Gitmo Panels Flawed
Snip…
Thank you, Lt. Col. Stephen E. Abraham. I’m glad there are still men with souls who are in the position to do the right thing. They will, of course, crush you for this, but I will drink a toast to your memory. Posted by: Monolycus | Jul 23 2007 18:30 utc | 75 @Monolycus – that report is quite effectful as Lt.Col. Abraham is a very staunch conservative. Karl Rove will have big time trouble to smear him.
Not that I ever would like anyone who cried when Nixon resigned, but this time he makes a difference … Abu G: And I am telling you, I’m not going…
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 23 2007 19:08 utc | 77 Beq, anyone? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 23 2007 19:56 utc | 78 I wish I could enlighten you Uncle. I don’t go to dkos so much. And this may be why. I thank Bernhard for letting us go at it from time to time. On one hand you have the (and I even heard this Saturday when I went to see Cindy Sheehan very near where this incident took place) lefthand accusations of circular firing squads and how the regressive right can get it done but they are just parrots, screeching a few lines they’ve learned, there is nothing there. Posted by: beq | Jul 23 2007 21:22 utc | 79 @b (#76)
Ms Miers’ defiance here is reminiscent of Rove’s inexplicable smugness preceding the 2006 election smackdown. She obviously believes her dark cronies are able to get anything they want for their faithful followers. This is particularly odd since Ms Miers was the party involved on one of the rare occasions when this President wasn’t given a blank cheque… or she’d be on the other side of the bench right now issuing contemptible charges of her own. Posted by: Monolycus | Jul 24 2007 0:10 utc | 81 The way I walk is just the way I walk…lol
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 24 2007 1:16 utc | 82 uncle #63. i am glad i watched that movie last noght after you posted it, it is no longer available at your link… Posted by: annie | Jul 24 2007 1:17 utc | 83 Sorry about that annie, here is another copy in english, with Spanish subtitles. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 24 2007 1:51 utc | 84 Brother Ali – Uncle
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 24 2007 2:43 utc | 85 My, who wouldda thunk -“mans much vaunted Conquest of Nature” is a vain delusion…certainly not feminists… Posted by: jj | Jul 24 2007 3:26 utc | 86 financial times: China oil braves hostile terrain in Somalia
that’s strange. ft had two articles last week on the CNOOC deal & gedi’s reaction to it, yet they failed to mention the part about offering PSA’s to the western biggies.
the sham reconciliation conference is focusing on the TFG’s 4.5 clan formula, rather than political reconciliation, in order to establish dominance & maintain control over rents, once the oil exploration commences. Posted by: b real | Jul 24 2007 3:49 utc | 87 First Chips Implanted in People on the Job
Posted by: Bea | Jul 24 2007 14:00 utc | 88 not much in this article we don’t already know, but i did appreciate the following (crucial) point being made
black agenda report: A Tale of Two Genocides, Congo and Darfur: The Blatantly Inconsistent U.S. Position
Posted by: b real | Jul 24 2007 14:45 utc | 89 Interesting detail from the current Gonzales hearing: Another one on the significance of the Turkish election result, and then a great comment from Paul Woodward of The War in Context:
Posted by: Bea | Jul 24 2007 15:04 utc | 91 Is it posssible…a voice of sanity?? What a cold gust of fresh air…
I feel like writing these folks thank you notes… Seriously Posted by: Bea | Jul 24 2007 15:10 utc | 92 From Bea #88 ’Take a chip or starve.’ Posted by: Rick | Jul 24 2007 15:14 utc | 93 secrecynews: Joint Chiefs Issue Doctrine on “Homeland Defense”
Posted by: b real | Jul 24 2007 15:39 utc | 94 @b real #94 Posted by: Bea | Jul 24 2007 16:11 utc | 95 Speaking of “strong stench”:
After reading this, I feel like nothing more than livestock. Posted by: Rick | Jul 24 2007 16:37 utc | 96 Recommended – Kissinger’s Secret Meeting With Putin
Rick: Posted by: catlady | Jul 24 2007 17:28 utc | 98 Ref: #31
Aw hell, another lazy ass drunk worried about losing his job! Posted by: Rick | Aug 2 2007 4:43 utc | 99 |
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