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July 6, 2007
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Israellycool is a blog with really strong “cool” opinions that deserve comments. Because they have open comments. The SS would be proud of this discourse. Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 6 2007 21:06 utc | 2 Remember the outrage when the Taliban blew up those Buddhas? Seems like they had some unlikely forerunners. Posted by: Dick Durata | Jul 6 2007 21:28 utc | 4 Hello to everybody from Hong Kong, where we have another hot day, and life goes on much as ever …. shopping being the main weekend activity, and few take an interest in international politics, Iraq, and the like. Concerns about the environment and climate are beginning to worry the middle class, but the local government has yet to really understand why it matters. Posted by: Marianne | Jul 7 2007 1:20 utc | 5
mcclatchy: Report: Scores still jailed in secret after fleeing Somali war
“activists think…” eh? activists like “One Western diplomat in Nairobi, who agreed to speak to AP only if not quoted to avoid angering U.S. officials, said he sees the United States as playing a guiding role in the operation.”
Posted by: b real | Jul 7 2007 5:29 utc | 7 Thanks Dick Durata for the link to the story about Israel blowing up Moslem monuments in Palestine during a war in 1950. Posted by: jonku | Jul 7 2007 6:13 utc | 8 Italy’s military spooks ‘spied on magistrates to help Berlusconi’
A few weeks ago I posted about how Antioch College, home of radical-but-still-accredited liberal arts in America was closing. Since then, I have found myself almost totally immersed in the rather remarkable revitalization that the alumni and associates are putting together. When I wrote what I thought was something of an obit here, a few of you responded with some respect and love for Antioch, so I thought I’d let you know what was going on. We’ve got a website at http://www.antiochians.org , and we’re gathering allies, connections, and, well, money. so if you’d like to help, email me… Posted by: Rowan | Jul 7 2007 6:22 utc | 10
The writer is a retired Foreign Service officer who returned to duty to lead the provincial reconstruction team in Baqubah, Iraq, from April 2006 until January 2007. Rebel groups step up kidnaps and attacks on aid workers in Darfur
Rowan, thus are traditions born. The destroyed holy places in Palestine are commemorated by people from India and Ethiopia! Posted by: jonku | Jul 7 2007 7:11 utc | 14 Friday Night Video Not a music video, unless music to your ears might be hearing Fouad Ajami blubbering into incoherence on Hardball. Tweety being replaced by new liberal chainsaw maestro David Shuster. Posted by: anna missed | Jul 7 2007 7:39 utc | 15 anna missed: “new liberal chainsaw maestro David Shuster” Posted by: Rick | Jul 7 2007 8:37 utc | 16 You may want to check out Iran’s new 24hour station in english on Hotbird 12437. Called Press TV. Posted by: ww | Jul 7 2007 10:00 utc | 17 To be filed under I Wouldn’t Put It Past Them: Posted by: Alamet | Jul 7 2007 13:25 utc | 18 looks like the lovefest between Sunni insurgents and US troops in Anbar province continues apace with 7 GIs dead in Anbar in the first 6 days of July. I guess sometimes when they’re group hugging or exchanging gifts a gun or an IED will accidentally go off. dumb luck that. Posted by: ran | Jul 7 2007 14:26 utc | 19 But ran, Senator Graham just said
Don’t you believe the good Senator? iraq market bomb Posted by: annie | Jul 7 2007 15:36 utc | 21 Al-Qaeda linked to operations from Iran Posted by: Alamet | Jul 7 2007 15:51 utc | 22 yea b I don’t doubt there’s some in fighting among some of the various Sunni resistance groups possibly invloving the tiny percentage of fighters with some AQ loyalty but they all seem to agree that the only good GI is a dead GI, despite what various congenital liars in the Pentagon and WH would have us believe. Posted by: ran | Jul 7 2007 15:55 utc | 23 Miscellany… Posted by: Alamet | Jul 7 2007 15:57 utc | 24 Plague of bioweapons accidents afflicts the US Posted by: Noirette | Jul 7 2007 17:19 utc | 25 About, in France..questions 9/11…link Posted by: Noirette | Jul 7 2007 17:45 utc | 26 Tribal Chief Says NATO Airstrike Kills 108 Afghan Civilians
Good reconnaissance, yeah. How do you fdifferentiate between a Pashtun villager and a Pashtun guerillia. You can’t.
But there is a fight beween the air-force (i.e. Boeing, Lockheed) and the Army over counterinsurgance strategy. For a weekend diversion, are any barflies interested in how sports are being taken over & brought into line by the Predators of Finance Capital to reflect & express their War Against Civilization? Let me know. Otherwise I won’t waste my time crafting a post on their takeover & devastation of tennis. Rules? F*** Rules… We’re Lords of the Universe & what we say goes. We Rig ‘n’ Wreck ABSOLUTELY EFFING EVERYTHING WE TOUCH til they reflect our image & sate our greed addicted lust for profit. So, anyway, let me know & I’ll give y’all a rundown. Needless to say others who enjoy tennis are like so many children at a puppet show, too ignorant & well-trained to dare look at who is pulling the strings & casting out w/silence or ridicule anyone who dares mention such topics, much less in their larger cultural context. Conversely, those interested in such matters are rarely attached to sports – or if they aren’t they don’t bring it in here. (The biggest & most prestigious tennis tournament in the world wraps up tomorrow in London.) Posted by: jj | Jul 8 2007 2:28 utc | 28 @jj Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 8 2007 4:15 utc | 29 @jj Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 8 2007 4:16 utc | 30 New York Times OpEd: The United States Must leave Iraq Without Delay Posted by: anna missed | Jul 8 2007 6:29 utc | 33 @anna missed
Posted by: DM | Jul 8 2007 9:39 utc | 34 I was once tangentially involved in a football club. What these ppl did was buy young boys in the third world – mostly Africa- and then trained them here in Switzerland and, well, sold them on. I forget the finances (according to me they hadn’t calculated it right, but me and football are two different things) but it works out something like for one ‘jackpot’ you can train ten, while still making a pile. So this was the ‘club’ in cahoots with a private school that I can’t describe at all as it would be identified, which is probably already saying too much. Of course these boys had to have some schooling. I warned that it would not work, etc. leaving the other aspects aside (the scheme was perfectly legal.) It was abandoned after a few nasty events. Posted by: Noirette | Jul 8 2007 9:46 utc | 35 anna, thanks for pointing out the NYT article. I almost fell off my chair. One thing amused me, though: The Editorial states: “Leaving troops in Iraq might make it too easy — and too tempting — to get drawn back into the civil war and confirm suspicions that Washington’s real goal was to secure permanent bases in Iraq.” Posted by: Parviz | Jul 8 2007 11:42 utc | 36 Interesting – on of the British “Doctors” in the incident in Glasgow was an engineer, not a medic.
That is the very last sentence of the BBC piece. After Al Gore’s promotional world-show yesterday, when will he join up with Michael Moore (not really), but when will he take on the universal healthcare issue? Been really, really hot here this weekend. Makes ya wanna get some “Ice Cream”. 😉 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 8 2007 17:28 utc | 41 b @ 37, Posted by: Alamet | Jul 8 2007 17:40 utc | 42 Now please explain, how does a Ph.D. in engineering builds such crumby “bombs” that aren’t bombs at all (i.e. no explosives, no oxidiser, faulty trigger? Posted by: Noirette | Jul 8 2007 17:54 utc | 43 On a more serious note, what such incidents show is that top-down management is no longer implemented. Any sensible script would associate doctors to bio-terror. Posted by: Noirette | Jul 8 2007 18:24 utc | 44 Jesus fucking Christ…Is the United States Killing 10,000 Iraqis Every Month? Or Is It More? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 8 2007 18:57 utc | 45 @Noirette – I am getting more and more suspicious of the “bombs” in London and Glasgow. Cindy Sheehan challenges Nancy Pelosi – Yeehaw!
It seems someone has awoken and finally gotten past the forever feedback loop of Coke and Pepsi! she’ll get my vote… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 9 2007 0:57 utc | 47 Uncle #47, Posted by: Rick | Jul 9 2007 4:18 utc | 48 The 150plus who died in an attack on them Saturday in Iraq were Turkmen people. These are bethrens of the Turks in Turkey and got support from them. Yes Rick, I’m in Montana. I was speaking metaphorically. And not that she would win or that I even think she could, which is highly unlikely against a seasoned politician. But it would force the Dems to talk about a lot of things. Things they would rather not address. Don’t you think? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 9 2007 5:12 utc | 50 The “system”
The article outlines the grim determination with which the Bush administration is working to hand over Iraqi oil to the multinational conglomerates. But the article is surprisingly upbeat, illustrating the strength of the oil unions in Iraq and the popular support they have among the people. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 9 2007 5:57 utc | 51 secrecynews: The Rise of Intelligence Fusion Centers
rpt linked at above Posted by: b real | Jul 9 2007 16:47 utc | 52 even worse b real – it will be Lockheed and Raytheon creating the information to keep you away from getting elected …
Imagine all the potential for double loyality etc … Recommended Documentary ‘The Israel lobby – The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy’ Wow, b real, where did you find out about these fusion centers?! Posted by: Jane | Jul 9 2007 18:29 utc | 55 jane- i’ve been catching items re the african fusion cell here & there on the web & then saw the CRS rpt today re the domestic networks.
according to that article, there are stringent criteria in place to prevent political blacklisting, but then other rpts have shown that questionable blacklists of names of people “ill disposed” toward the ruling parties in rwanda & uganda have made their way through the process. the CRS rpt shows that the processes are flawed domestically, and i don’t assume any likelihood that they are much better in repressive central african nations like rwanda. Posted by: b real | Jul 9 2007 19:45 utc | 56 @Jane – b real does not mention it, but s/he has written a very good piece about such connections in Understanding AFRICOM: A Contextual Reading of Empire’s New Combatant Command Consumer borrowing jumps in May
Someway down the road there is a hard wall that inevitably will hit … @remberinggiap: Posted by: Argh | Jul 10 2007 0:58 utc | 62 there’s been increasing western coverage & recognition of the sitch in the ogaden region of ethiopia. some of it is still pretty weak & misleading, like this chicago tribune article, which tries to conflate the ONLF’s activities w/ the GWOT and political islam, painting a picture of a religious war triggered by the ethiopian invasion of somalia & entirely avoiding the context cited by the ONLF in their dispatches.
here’s the human rights watch stmt issued last week,
the crackdown is in part collective punishment against the peoples of the region for the successful strikes against ethiopian forces by ONLF forces, esp the april attack on chinese oil facilities, which brought int’l attention to the plight of the indigenes there. other communiques from the ONLF claim successful ongoing attacks on ethiopian forces in the area.
…though let’s not leave out that the u.s. assists in training & supplying the ethiopian military Posted by: b real | Jul 10 2007 4:08 utc | 64 b #59, Posted by: Rick | Jul 10 2007 4:23 utc | 65 b real, Posted by: Rick | Jul 10 2007 4:37 utc | 66 rick- they sound even more horrible to me tonite as i’ve been reading a book on the u.s. in guatemala & the cia’s penchant for “disposal lists”… Posted by: b real | Jul 10 2007 4:41 utc | 67 To Save Her Life: Disappearance, Deliverance, and the United States in Guatemala by dan saxon Posted by: b real | Jul 10 2007 4:54 utc | 69 b real, Posted by: Rick | Jul 10 2007 4:54 utc | 70 I have a secret desire to sit in a classroom with r’giap as a teacher Posted by: annie | Jul 10 2007 4:59 utc | 71 b real, Posted by: Rick | Jul 10 2007 5:10 utc | 72 geesh my spelling/typos are terrible tonight… but It’s very late here and it has been a long hard day…just trying to get a few posts off in appreciation of everyone’s great work. Posted by: Rick | Jul 10 2007 5:21 utc | 73
Posted by: Rick | Jul 10 2007 5:54 utc | 74 ethiopia: US to Build Largest Embassy Structure in Addis
“depicting a ship”… interesting b/c ethiopia is a land-locked country that has been trying to conquer territory (eritrea, somalia) providing access to the sea. one may also read into the image that of “gunboat diplomacy”, given the larger role the u.s. navy will play in “securing” africa & communication lines, or as demonstrated recently in the naval destroyer shelling of peoples in puntland.
but, as shown in the first article, people hardly figure into the equation
technology transfer… as in using the u.s./TNC big stick to level the playing field. Posted by: b real | Jul 10 2007 18:55 utc | 76
TAI
Posted by: annie | Jul 10 2007 19:30 utc | 77 b real: Why do you think a 4-story building in Addis Abeba will cost 140 million dollars? What in the world is going into this thing? Doesn’t that price tag sound inflated to you? Posted by: Jane | Jul 10 2007 19:55 utc | 78 @r’giap – 75 – do you really have to channel Michael Scheuer?
sorry for the scheur, b but these deadshits dazzle me with what they say to particular audience & contexts Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jul 10 2007 22:11 utc | 80 jane- i have no idea what all goes into those numbers. the bid for the embassy in djibouti appears to have finally went to a firm named cadell, which bid $90,115,000. the GAO’s estimate was $81 million & had originally been $50-60 million. i’m sure corruption & padded billings figure into the final numbers. but yes, it does sound high to me. $100 million & $140 million could help a lot of people in those two nations, whereas the state dept is there to help the u.s. Posted by: b real | Jul 10 2007 22:32 utc | 81 |
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