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June 25, 2007
Lessons in Geography

Video, Anderson Cooper, June 20, 2007

Aside from the lack of geographic knowledge, CNN does not even recognize its own numbers.

On a chart in that video it says about Afghanistan:

  • Largest refugee population in world (2.1 million)
  • 25% of primary school age children to not attend
  • over 50% live below poverty line

In the moderation segment Cooper says:

"2.000.000 Afghans live outside the country. It is the world largest refugee population."

This was in a broadcast on the World Refugee Day when Cooper discussed Afghanistan and Darfur with Angelina Jolie.

But according to a CNN.com report posted June 21, 2007:

  • More than 2.2 million Iraqis have fled since war began
  • 2 million Iraqis have been displaced inside Iraq

Others report:

  • Primary school attendence in Iraq is lower than in Afghanistan with only 30% attending at all
  • In Iraq 9 million now live in poverty with no count available of Iraqi refugees in poverty outside of the country

Which makes one wonder if CNN is able to set the focus on the right places at all.

  • Why are 2.000.000 Afghans said to be the "world largest refugee population" and not 4.200.000 Iraqis?
  • Why was the relative smaller Darfur crisis discussed instead of the bigger Iraqi one?
Comments

The U.S. now presides over 2 failed states, both of which are factories of terrorism, with economic & social tendrils reaching deep into their neighbors, and threatening them with the same. Foreign policy by Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Posted by: anna missed | Jun 25 2007 9:07 utc | 1

over 2 failed states
You missed Somalia, the third “regime change” done by the U.S. that ended in a -again- failed state.

Posted by: b | Jun 25 2007 9:25 utc | 2

failed states… brought about by usa “regime change”
haiti?

Posted by: selise | Jun 25 2007 10:03 utc | 3

I have a bit of faith in Haiti because Chavez is in the area, and because the Latin Americans seem to be starting to pull together. The fact that the US is bogged down elsewhere means that the South Americans can run their countries as they see fit, and not pay so much attention to what the US wants. The US is starting to be less influential in Central and South America.

Posted by: Owl | Jun 25 2007 10:29 utc | 4

Give ’em a break, it is almost the same shape as Afghanistan and not that far removed.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jun 25 2007 11:01 utc | 5

@selise
Just askin’ – can you comment on this Raimondo article about Haiti ? …

Fred Thompson and the Burning ‘Necklace’
Why is nobody questioning the GOP front-runner about his lobbying efforts on behalf of a murderous leftist demagogue?
by Justin Raimondo
To look at Fred Thompson, the actor-cum-senator who now appears to be moving to the front of the GOP presidential pack, one would think that what you see is what you get – but, no. Peel back the pretty ordinary red-state Republican opinions – the war is a righteous one, free Scooter Libby – and we get to the hollow core at the center of his political being. That is, his prior career as a professional lobbyist – perhaps the one profession that is rated lower in the public’s esteem than being a member of Congress.
I have to admit being shocked – and somewhat baffled – by his lobbying efforts on behalf of Jean Bertrand Aristide, the former president of Haiti, a committed leftist and anti-American demagogue of the sort currently represented by Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez.
Aristide, a former Roman Catholic priest with radical socialist beliefs, was elected president of Haiti in 1990 after a campaign marred by violence on the part of his supporters and featuring promises by Aristide that he would redistribute the nation’s wealth to his constituency, i.e., the poorest of the poor. Early on, Aristide was characterizing the U.S. as “the great Satan.” In September 1991, Aristide incited his followers to “necklace” his political opponents: “necklacing” is the practice of tying a tire around the victim’s neck, filling it with gasoline, and then lighting it.
Death squads acting under the supervision of Aristide’s top security aides roamed the streets of Haiti’s cities and villages, murdering and beating anyone who dared speak out against the red terror. Aristide and his Lavalas Party tried to rig parliamentary elections, and when the Organization of American States called him on it, the Clinton administration, which had been sponsoring, supporting, and subsidizing him, suffered a major embarrassment.
This is the regime Thompson lobbied for.
Politico.com reports Thompson’s campaign manager as saying that he was only lobbying against the embargo placed on Haiti in the 1990s, but if you look at the actual form Thompson had to fill out at the time, it reads that he was lobbying “on behalf of Jean Bertrand Aristide” “in order to obtain the restoration of the democratically-elected government of the republic of Haiti.” Kicked out of power and taking refuge in Washington, Aristide soon found plenty of support from the less fastidious lefties, and his cause was taken up by the Clinton administration, which, at the urging of Thompson and his fellow pro-Aristide lobbyists, installed the Haitian demagogue back in power. The rigging of the 2000 elections, however, was a major blow to the pro-Aristide camp in the U.S., and he soon lost his American fan base, at least among the Washington respectables, and was driven out of power in 2004 in the face of stepped-up criticism from Washington and riots in the streets.
The question is: what was Thompson doing representing the interests of one of the worst leftist tyrants in recent memory? Was it just the money?
It seems to me that Thompson, like all too many actors, exhibits a total lack of judgment. Quite obviously, Aristide was a wild man, a man whose rhetoric condemned him out of his own mouth, and whose actions were inexcusable – yet Thompson signed on to the campaign to prettify this yammering tyrant, empowering him and deepening the misery of the Haitian people. Typically, Thompson has also signed on to the effort to free Scooter Libby, helping to raise millions for the legal defense of this convicted felon and serial liar, whose behind-the-scenes machinations did so much to ensure that the lies that lured us into war went unchallenged until it was too late.
Is Thompson naïve, or a genuine creep? Perhaps he’s both.
The Republican candidates, with the notable exception of Ron Paul, are a truly sorry pack of phonies, front men, and poseurs. Romney spends half his time denying his record, and the other half trying to explain it. McCain has forsaken straight talk for double-talk. Giuliani has so many skeletons in his closet that the sound of their clattering bones promises to drown out whatever he has to say. As for the rest of them, they’re Lilliputians, one and all; standing beside them, Ron Paul towers like a giant.
As for Thompson: anyone who would lobby on behalf of a half-crazed demagogue of Aristide’s stripe lacks any moral sense, and surely that is one quality we would like to see in a president. While no one expects America’s chief executive to be the equivalent of Mother Teresa, being a shill for one of the Western hemisphere’s most extravagantly vicious rulers is a little much even by Washington’s standards.
With a brace of phonies on both sides of the partisan divide struggling to “position” themselves into the White House, this upcoming political season promises to be the winter of our discontent. The Republicans, however, seem especially handicapped when it comes to candidates who exhibit the least bit of authenticity. Indeed, they are so lacking in this department that they are apparently willing to squint hard so that they don’t really have to see their candidates with any degree of clarity – only a carefully airbrushed, rather foggy blur that inspires nothing but the fear of looking any closer.
Fred Thompson, we are told, is “Reaganesque,” but what does this really mean? Reagan came up through the conservative ranks, you’ll remember, as Barry Goldwater’s eloquent champion, a role that won him wide recognition and adulation from conservatives. Thompson has no such credentials. His voting record is fairly conservative, but he’s no Ron Paul when it comes to economic issues. Yeah, sure, Thompson’s an actor, and so was Reagan, but there the resemblance ends.
It is a measure of the sheer desperation of the Republicans that they would turn to Thompson, whose main attraction is that he’s not Romney, he’s not McCain, and he never married one of his cousins. If ever there was a party in decline, it’s the GOP.

Posted by: DM | Jun 25 2007 11:09 utc | 6

@DM – arch-libertarian Raimondo has quite some hate for a left winger like Aristide. The facts may look a bit different than he tells them.

Posted by: b | Jun 25 2007 11:43 utc | 7

Hilarious video; at present, difficult to tell the difference between spoofs, satire, comedy and the ‘real thing’ as is itself a kind of garbled mock up. CNN couldn’t state that it is Iraq that has the largest number of refugees – for Afgh. many others can be blamed.
Failed states – not entirely new as a concept, becoming a standard model following US intervention.
The Iraq debacle is officially an illegal invasion followed by occupation (insofar as ‘official’ has any weight), but it is generally called a war by the Western media, giving the impression that good guys and some instituted body of evil forces are fighting it out and that one party will, must, win – a comfortable or even necessary frame.
If the main motive is the control of resources (oil, water, minerals, transport routes, small slices of territory held, etc.) the term ‘new colonialism’ is apt.
Past colonialists never destroyed the place they colonized, though they treated the local pop. differently. The Brits ‘genocided’ in the US, NZ, Aus. and Canada. Others implemented a mixed approach, going right from controlling much of the land, the mines, the produce, the transport, with a strong presence and a large ruling class, administration (ex. Brazil, Algeria, Antilles), repressing, co-opting, enslaving the locals, and (often) importing slaves from Africa.
In other situations, the presence was light, similar to a feudal lord taxing the peasants (India, maybe.)
All these models – morality aside – worked. For a while.
Iraq and Afgh. ops. mix in elements of all the previous models, I need not elaborate; with one big difference: locals are not controlled or policed, are not co-opted, except at the top level, puppet Gvmt., and even there, the locals are despised, expats etc. are to do the job – it is as if a free for all killing spree is encouraged, divide and rule. See: Palestine.
Roots or causes: a) the nature of the resource dictates a different approach (eg. growing sugar cane vs. extracting oil); b) the military industrial complex needs to sell arms; c) genocide is unacceptable today and has to hide behind 7 veils; d) ppl are expendable, no local labor force is required; e) …? f) nobody knows what the F to do and which model to adopt. Very evident in Iraq.

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 25 2007 15:48 utc | 8

nobody knows what the F to do and which model to adopt.
Alas, Noirette, I’m afraid with this bunch that even the mere concept of “adopting a model” is far too sophisticated to have even occurred to them. I doubt that most in this adminstration possess even as much knowledge of history as you’ve elegantly packed into your short post.
It’s just shock and awe, baby, shock and awe. Blow everything to smithereens until you get what you came for.

International law? What the F*&$ is that? Law, schmaw. I’m the Decider and what I say, goes. Period.

Posted by: Bea | Jun 25 2007 16:05 utc | 9

I doubt that most in this adminstration possess even as much knowledge of history as you’ve elegantly packed into your short post.
It’s just shock and awe, baby, shock and awe.

The videogame version of colonialism.

Posted by: small coke | Jun 25 2007 17:01 utc | 10

It’s amazing how little geography is offered in the US educational program!
There is a large, framed map of the greater Middle East hanging above the news-reading sofa in the front room of my house. It does help. When neighbors come in, they often wander over to take a look and comment on some aspect of regional geography of which they were unaware – size of countries, location relative to other countries, topography, etc.

Posted by: small coke | Jun 25 2007 17:14 utc | 11

No, they seem to be intentionally (or by intentional neglect) creating failed states – as a sort of mutant consciousness. Or, a mutant replacant of the global/privatized ideal they hold near and dear to their hearts. Rather they are the anti-christ…… did I just say that?

Posted by: anna missed | Jun 25 2007 17:18 utc | 12

CNN really should be able to do better than this abysmal reporting. Even a cursory check turned up the fact that there were 4.375 million Palestinian refugees registered with UNRWA as of 2002. As with everything else in this accursed conflict, this figure is a source of vehement and never-ending dispute. However even if you knocked a million off you’d still easily have more than the 2 million Afghans CNN has glibly asserted are the “world’s largest refugee population.”
And I believe, although I don’t have time to check it at present, that the number of Iraqi refugees is now already far greater than the original number of Palestinians who became refugees in 1948 and 1967 combined. I have read that this refugee crisis is the worst since Palestine, and that it has now surpassed that one by an order of magnitude.

Posted by: Bea | Jun 25 2007 18:35 utc | 13

not sure exactly how its going to play out, but the days of self-appointed moral custodians over the rest of the planet are winding down.
nobody has the right to assert their own sentiment of moral-superiority over others
nobody has the right to use moral superiority as a tool to manipulate others – friend or foe
anybody has the choice to feel morally-superior, but its immoral to assert or impose it on others
the world has never seen an age of moral-superiority anywhere close to the last hundreds of years.
the moral bubble is streaching really thin now.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Jun 26 2007 2:18 utc | 14

If they could just confine their assertion of moral superiority to ragging on smokers, that would be one thing. But I’m afraid its wired into the DNA so I have to disagree. Moral superiority is a great substitute for intelligence which explains why its actually on an exponential growth hormone and only the dull thud of peak oil will rein it in.
I’m going for a beer and a cig.

Posted by: Allen/Vancouver | Jun 26 2007 3:19 utc | 15

Allen,
I think you would understand. Moral Superiority is kind of like lust. Both wired into the DNA,
But we mostly keep our lust under control & do not try to assert or impose it on others.
Its really no more difficult to keep moral superiority in check than it is to keep lust in check. We just are not even trying.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Jun 26 2007 4:24 utc | 16

It’s amazing how little geography is offered in the US educational program!
I just heard the new rpt. that 11% of Americans Could Not Locate USA on a map… (not a joke)…

Posted by: jj | Jun 26 2007 4:44 utc | 17

for the latest on Haiti, watch this

Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 26 2007 7:15 utc | 18

Bea wrote: I’m afraid with this bunch that even the mere concept of “adopting a model” is far too sophisticated to have even occurred to them….It’s just shock and awe, baby, shock and awe.
I tend to see plans and purposes (or try to dope them out) and in the Iraq matter I always thought the main aim was resources, specifically, oil. I attribute the various screw-ups either to conflicting models (de-baathification as de-nazification accompanied by the hiring of thugs, Sunnis, etc. as a colonial police force to guard pipelines!) or to infighting between for ex. paleo-cons, neo-cons, and other forces, or as deliberate actions that masquerade as ‘mistakes’ (eg. pouring money into clinic building and not repairing water pipes. Nobody could be that stupid.)
Bit by bit ..thru AMoon… I have come to see what Bea said. The results are catastrophic for the US (and very poor for Israel as well should one wish to go down that path..) that it must be incoherence, incompetence, gratuitous violence, etc.
One could interpret that ‘globalization’ washes away national or even tribal distinctions and identities, that since say 1990 just to put up a vague date, we see that the elites, the rich, the powerful, the movers and shakers of global capitalism, the media as servants to those groups, are in a secret war with everyone else, the middle class, the workers, the poor.
That is true enough under one angle of vision, certainly. But it does not account for the total stupidity of the Iraq invasion. (?)
small coke wrote: The videogame version of colonialism.
Yes, sure. Sorta Civ. X-x. The problem is in choosing good, or ‘right’, or ‘interesting’, ‘valid’ classificatory distinctions, some of which are orthogonal, all of which depend on the topic addressed, for a short post. One could also laud or condemn colonialism based on the lowering or raising GDP, life span, health, contact between the invaders and the locals, etc. etc. And one needs clear definitions..

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 26 2007 15:55 utc | 19

addendum: this vid. from jibjab, office/child safe, of a teen impersonating Bush is really worth the click. Promise.
link

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 26 2007 18:24 utc | 20

@Noirette #20
Now that was hysterical… haven’t laughed so hard in a long time. Thanks!!

Posted by: Bea | Jun 26 2007 20:20 utc | 21

noirette- the kid’s only lipsynching to a SNL bit. here’s the original

Posted by: b real | Jun 26 2007 21:03 utc | 22

argh!

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 27 2007 13:40 utc | 23

even so Noirette, it is still very funny and was worth watching. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: Bea | Jun 27 2007 13:57 utc | 24