Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 22, 2007
Islam – Comintern: Capitalism’s Ideological Enemies

Pat Lang points to a Krauthammer op-ed in which the neocon ideologist burps:

Gaza is now run not by a conventional political party but by a movement that is revolutionary, Islamist and terrorist. Worse, Hamas is a client of Iran. Gaza now constitutes the farthest reach of the archipelago of Iranian proxies: Hamas in Palestine, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Mahdi Army (among others) in Iraq and the Alawite regime of Syria.

This Islamist mini-replica of the Comintern is at war not just with Israel but with the moderate Arab states, who finally woke up to this threat last summer when they denounced Hezbollah for provoking the Lebanon war with Israel.

Lang sees the use of "Comintern" here as a pure propaganda tool. As communism is gone, (Iran supported) Islam is build up as the new goonyman.

But there could be more than just pure propaganda and the defense industry’s need of some enemy here.

The neocons and their economic ideological brethrens, the neolibs, may fear Islam as a danger to their radical capitalism.

The "moderate Arab states," the collection of U.S. friendly dictatorships, all act capitalistic in their outward relation. But they are not necessarily open as markets to western companies or business models. U.S. mortgage companies hardly fit this rejection of usurious interest in the Koran.

"…
O you believers, fear God, and renounce the excess of usurious interest, if you really believe. If you do not follow this ruling, you may expect the hostility of God and of his Messenger. If you repent, you will retain your capital, neither harming anyone else nor suffering harm yourselves. To a debtor in difficulty, grant a delay until his situation improves. And if you renounce your rights that will be better still." (Q.2, 275-280).5

Basic Islamic jurisprudential understanding of economics, i.e. the ideology of Islamic economics, has quite some aspects that are incompatible with capitalism.

It seeks an economic system based on uplifting the deprived masses, a major role for the state in matters such as circulation and equitable distribution of wealth and insuring participants in the marketplace are rewarded by being exposed to risk and/or liability.

How could any decent disciple of the Chicago school NOT strive to fight against this? Especially the "liability" point would certainly not rhyme with yesterday’s Supreme Court decision.

Therefore, could there be some perceived fear that a caliphate, a group of nations with a common Islamic economic understanding, is a severe threat to the global rule of the robber-baron guild?

Could there be some reason based in economic ideology that drives the swing of the Krauthammer against some new "Comintern"?

Please let me know your thoughts.


An interesting side-point. A major modern work of Islamic economy was written by Muqtada al-Sadr’s father. In Iqtisaduna ("Our Economics") Sadr senior:

rejects capitalism’s notion that private property is justified in its own right, arguing instead that both private and public property originate from God, and that the rights and obligations of both private individuals and rulers are therefore dictated by Islam.

Could this explain some of the vitriol that is constantly spew against the keeper of this flame, Sadr junior?

Comments

Ahem, all property is *owned* by the sovereign and held in fief by the nobles, who lease it to their serfs. What better system could makind come up with?

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jun 22 2007 19:18 utc | 1

excellent post b.

Posted by: annie | Jun 22 2007 19:58 utc | 2

BINGO!!!

Posted by: pb | Jun 22 2007 20:38 utc | 3

[pseudo-religious spam deleted – b.]

Posted by: ahmedinajad | Jun 22 2007 21:55 utc | 4

that’s what the clash of civilizations is s’post to be about — not people, per se, for the idiotlogues in power in the “modern world” could hardly care less about anyone, including their small class/lineage of peers, let alone the rest of the individuals in their “civilizes” societies — but instead it’s a clash based on economic models.
here’s a relevant excerpt from r.t. naylor’s last book, in a chapter focusing on the drive to smash islamic charities

Although popular bigotry and political opportunism certainly play a role, part of the West’s confusion over Islamic charities arises because the Qur’an supports an economic ideology very different from the canons of savage capitalism so beloved of today’s bond brokers and televangelists. Islamic ethic imposes on Muslims as their primary duty the creation of a just society that treats the poor with respect. It favors equity over economic hierarchy, cooperation over unscrupulous competition, and charitable redistribution over selfish accumulation. In effect, the Qur’an was an early blueprint for the welfare state.
The most fundamental premise of that ethic is that economic activity is inseparable from spiritual. The ultimate purpose of life is the ibada of Allah. More than simply worship, this implies total submission to God in all aspects of life, including the economic. Where God and the market disagree, the market must give way.
Therefore, private property rights are not absolute. Ultimately all material things are gifts from Allah over which humans (individually or sometimes collectively) only have trusteeship. This makes it easier for a state authority, acting nominally on Islamic principles, to set limits on what a person can do with economic assets without invoking the protests common in the West against interference with the divine right of property. Islamic thought also makes a distinction between direct gifts from God and things that owe their existence mainly to human intervention. The first are common property. The Qur’an so specifies water, pasture, and fire (i.e., wood and forest resources). Some clerics add certain types of mines–like petroleum wells.
Since wealth and resources are bequeathed to humanity in trust, people are expected to exploit them for economic gain; but they cannot waste or destroy; and anything they earn is to be used for God’s work. That requires donating to the mosque and to the general defense of the umma and relieving the economic hardship of others.

more at the link

Posted by: b real | Jun 22 2007 22:17 utc | 5

Evolution under one God………. Jews.. Christians… Muslim, Sunni… Shia Muslims…….. who sit on the promised Land, Oil.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jun 22 2007 22:56 utc | 6

@b You have indeed hit a nail on the head.

Posted by: DM | Jun 22 2007 23:38 utc | 7

once again I find myself in the US and watching Fox out of pure curiosity. well the other night Hannity had Netanyahu on his show and everything Krauthammer has written was put out to the Fox Faithful.
Iran is bad, Iran = terrorism, Iran = Hezbollah, Iran = Hamas, Iran is building nuke to destroy Israel, afterwards Iran will use other nukes on the US. Netanyahu said this all with a straight face and I guess he would probably be a pretty good poker player based on his ability to put out so much bullshit without grinning.
I was quite amused at this and can only shake my head when I hear those same talking points down at the corner bar.
We have been hearing that the US is going to attack Iran for more than two years now and every deadline passes without on overt attack on Iran. I fear that the process is now started, the talking points are already planted and now comes the full court press. Look for opinion polls to come out soon showing large majorities of americans in favor of “action” against Iran
on another note, the folks around here are pretty much disgusted with the war in Iraq….not sure if it is because they really believe we shouldn’t be there or because it is annoying to hear about it all the time.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 23 2007 0:04 utc | 8

Shouldn’t be there.

Posted by: Allen/Vancouver | Jun 23 2007 2:59 utc | 9

Paraphrasing a famous mentor of mine:
Take 10 people out to some corn field.
Now, if they fill one hand full of shit,
and one hand full of their wet dreams,
which one will notice their local bank
being robbed back in town, first? Huh?
IT’S ABOUT THE WEALTH YOU USED TO OWN!
The rest is just shit and wet dreams!

Posted by: Tom Terrific | Jun 23 2007 5:00 utc | 10

How do they overlook that a lot of these “moderate” Arab states are still feudal monarchies? They also practice a type of top-down socialism, which has little to do with anybody’s free market.
If the Fox folks are advocating a “free market” they mean it in the sense of “exempt from existing laws and free of social or economic responsibility”.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jun 23 2007 5:27 utc | 11

From anna missed in the open thread a very relevant detailed piece about The War Economy of Iraq
Conclusion:

[S]upporters of the forced revolution project continue to present Anglo-American violence as a facilitator of historically inevitable transformations. The violence of the insurgent, by contrast, is presented as emanating from the recesses of a pre-market culture. Yet the war economy in Iraq does not pit the dark, essentialist world of the tribal smuggling networks against the agents of an enlightened and transparent global capitalism, nor can it be reduced to a conflict between global and local. Rather—heightened by a peculiarly American sense of manifest destiny—it provides an extreme example of the violence that underpins the wider project of neoliberalism, a project that actively seeks to transform the world in ways that make its assumptions appear as true. Resistance to such a project is thus likely to express itself through alternative ideological visions, thereby projecting the frontiers of conflict in terms of a clash of worldviews. In the face of the “creative destruction” wrought by invading forces, regular people articulate alternative paths of “creative destruction” that may express themselves with reference to alternative political and economic projects, or simply arise in the struggle to get by. Absent clear boundaries, strategy is reduced to tactics. The agents of a war economy thus do not necessarily fight to win as such: They are engaged within and act so as to reproduce an emergent, constantly shifting tactical environment.

Posted by: b | Jun 23 2007 6:59 utc | 12

Yes. This post is a winner, b.
As Orwell said, it’s all in how you name a thing.
If the local fishwrap, which always refers to “radical firebrand” Muqtada Al-Sadr, began referring to “radical and unsustainable capitalism” and “communal Islam,” it might jar a few of the less sonambulant sheep awake.
If FOX and PBS and NPR (and even our sports announcers) did the same, we would have a revolution on our hands within a month’s time.
But, they don’t of course, they lie in their very assumptions of what sustains life and humanity on this planet. And that’s what you gotta do if you want to control people.

Posted by: Bob M. | Jun 23 2007 10:08 utc | 13

A band of chimpanzees, or gorillas, or other apes spends most of its time laying about, or mating, or making mischief for entertainment. Life typically ain’t that hard — you find yourself some bananas, some grubs, some fruits as you need to, and otherwise you socialize.
When our species used to wander the planet hunting and gathering, it took a couple hours to half a day per person, on average, to gather all the food for the clan, make clothes, tools, and shelter. The rest of the time was invested in sitting around, or mating, or making mischief, or discussing whether there was a lightning deity, what stars are there for, and such.
There is a natural surplus with humans.
We’re bright, clever, efficient creatures who love to get the work done, and then lay about. We are, to this day, TGIF to the core. We work as we must, but we really delight in playing, both within this world, and within our minds.
When humans settled down to farming, there was a season of damn hard work, and then most of the year to invest in chores, upgrades, leisure. The productivity of our species made this approach to life even more abundant.
There is a natural surplus with humans.
Radical capitalism is when one human in the village figures out how to seize the surplus. Because owning the surplus gives them the means to rule the village, they claim it gives them the right to rule the village. The kings of this world add more villages, cities, whole continents after that, but the operating system doesn’t change.
The operating system is to seize the surplus.
If the entire human population, right now, were statistically represented as 100 people, one of those people would own 95% of the money and stuff, and everyone else would own the clothes on their backs, and have to come and go according to that one person’s rules and regs, or else their life would immediately become too difficult to sustain.
The American nation now issues debt in such levels that the newborn American — with their first breath — owes more money than they will ever earn, much less have discretion over. Is this not the very definition of slavery?
Islam militates against this approach to human living, instead directing each person to share their surplus, knowing that the umma, the brotherhood, will sustain them in turn if they are ever in need. Islam is a family religion, and the family is humanity.
American capitalism has each human living at the far end of a financial tapeworm, extracting from them their surplus as it arrives, so that they live from paycheck to paycheck, and can be discarded like the rind of a fruit when they can no longer work.
Some thinkers say that capitalism is racism, in that a human minus money is not a human. The capitalist operating system has no place in the machinery for them.
Well, we’re still getting our species organized.
When mankind does move beyond radical capitalism, into an operating system for spaceship Earth that doesn’t amount to Burning Down The House, it will be because people arrange to recognize the collective surplus as it rises from each human’s daily toil, and see to it that the surplus is not seized by that one proverbial individual, the radical capitalist, but is redistributed to the clan.
If ten thousand persons were put aboard an intergalactic spaceship for a species leap to the stars, they would not select radical capitalism as their operating system. That would be a disaster. They would select an ethos, an operating system, a lot closer to Islam’s family approach.
Nowadays, that natural human surplus gathers and flows into incredible pools of capital, into multiple piles of money stretching to the moon and back. We’re bright, clever, efficient creatures.
Why is our surplus allowed to gather into the hands of a very few humans?
Even monkeys know better.

Posted by: Antifa | Jun 23 2007 12:15 utc | 14

Zakat – a sort of voluntary redistribution mechanism based on honor, not just money given to religious authorities – *might* be included as well.
Much the same point could be made about education (I am no Koranic scholar, and “Islam”-ic societies are very varied, “Islam” itself is a composite of social, cultural, religious, etc. elements.)
Good Muslims, as I have experienced it, have a duty to educate themselves and to educate others, and this applies not to religious instruction but learning as a whole; this is explicitly spelled out. Such a principle, too, is far removed from rapacious capitalism. (Fundamentalists like the Taliban are not representative.)
The appellation “market muslim” brands a kind of apostate – those whose religion is but a badge of vague cultural belonging, with a few rituals, vestiges of ancient customs, habits, etc. but who espouse capitalism in the name of ‘modernity’ (or simply to make and spend a lot of money, or to assimilate, etc.), and use their cultural category to remain aloof from socio-democratic type politics. As Muslims, they are neither right or left or anything else, can’t be bothered. When pressed, they say Islam is all encompassing – so haven’t lost their roots there! Hah.
Anyway the crux is that some Arab (and other) states were nationalist and socialist, whether thru Commie influence or thinking, ppls demands for a just society with growing industrialization, tradition, cultural-religious precepts, or whatever – and that is completely unacceptable.

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 23 2007 13:42 utc | 15

Why is our surplus allowed to gather into the hands of a very few humans?
Elite Male Greed Addicts, justified by Unca Miltie’s Rantings, in a time of computers hooked to satellites. Fundie Economics necessarily calls into being its parallelism for the other 99%, a god for them from whom all is stolen, Fundie Religiosity – to each their own god, one as monstrous as the next. As at home, so abroad. Sadr is just Falwell in even more ridiculous attire.
Why is it society has figured out that Zeta Males are a danger that must be locked up, but the infinitely more dangerous predators, the Alpha Males are allowed to roam freely, unimpeded by even laws or sanctions anymore. Sewer Rat who “broke the bank of England” was never even locked up for life, or even a day. Honored no less.
Speaking of such matters, why haven’t blogs stopped the presses this week since Hersh’s story came out – Demanding that Rumbo, et al, everyone in that room who met Gen. Taguba’s information w/stony silence, all those Good Nazis, be Arrested & Tried? If we are that numb, we are doomed.

Posted by: jj | Jun 23 2007 17:58 utc | 16

Man needs to eat, reproduce and socialize. This is all tied up with status and power. Men with weapons have and will always be a problem to mankind. The most radical will seize wealth by force of arms. Civilization has tried to control armies through legal and social means. Not to any great success.
Jews have seized lands once inhabited by Arabs. The USA is occupying two countries in the center of Islam.
Hezbollah has found the way to defeat a Western armored army by modern commercial communications, defense in depth and the brotherhood of Islam. The only way to eliminate Hezbollah is bulldoze Southern Lebanon flat and salt the soil, or atomic weapons.
Hezbollah, Hamas and Mahdi Army, all stand in the way of Western hegemony. They are funded by excess oil money from Iran. The talk of atomic strikes, no matter how crazy sounding, becomes plausible. It is the only possible outcome of continued Likud Neo-Con escalation.
The alternative to nuclear war is a successful disengagement. This can only be achieved if the USA and Europe achieves energy independence to dry up excess oil money that funds radical Islamic movements. A daunting task because it means defunding the military industrial complex and a break up of big oil; even though, in addition, energy independence has the benefit of halting climate change.

Posted by: Jim S | Jun 23 2007 18:13 utc | 17

I must also support the “Islamic” view that natural resources – minerals, soil, water, energy, etc. – belong to humanity as a whole and must be managed for them benefit of humankind as a whole.
It is acceptable and even desireable to reward those who utilize and distribute those resources and to allow them to make a profit from their work, but problems arise when these people decide they *own* the resources they are supposed to be husbanding.
And a nation’s workforce is also a resource that must be cared for through decent health care, healthy environmental and residential conditions, and accessible education. Problems arise when labor is treated as merely another cost factor to me minimized or eliminated entirely, like paper clips or copier paper.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jun 23 2007 18:44 utc | 18

@Antifa #14:
I agree with much of your article, but the initial premise is somewhat flawed. To wit…
The Brutal Elimination of a Rival Among Captive Male Chimpanzees
…and, even more surprising…
Chimpanzee Violence: Femmes Fatales
It’s in our blood, and has been part of us since long, long before we became hunter/gatherers. I can agree that ‘seizing the surplus’ is probably a tribal development, but it is in itself just another clever way to become the Alpha Male and have more breeding rights.

Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | Jun 23 2007 19:01 utc | 19

Without wanting to argue human exceptionalism – we are part of the animal kingdom – appeals to ‘animal’ essences such as indolent nature, getting on easy, or, by contrast the murderous greed humans are capable of miss the mark.
That nature is sh*t, voraciously competitive – or sometimes not, as some organisms survive and live on in a kind of gentle, or at least well adapted, symbiosis with their surroundings (pigeons, rats, yeast, geraniums, though all those cases are different), does not address the human condition, as humans transform and manipulate the environment, other living organisms, and the very face of planet earth to an exrtraordinary degree.
In fact, all such arguments peculiarly fall back on both naive Social Darwinism (greed, pseudo science like the selfish gene, etc.), and the love of primitive man – drinking coconut milk and rain dancing and local custom of killing as sacrifice or whatever is cool, to bowlderize and make a bit of fun…
The Garden of Eden is gone and we will pay for our sins. Righteo!
The original mistake was going over to agriculture. Even Kunstler has said that I believe. Right from growing a bit o’ grain by scattering seed and coming back to reap, to MacMansions.
So what is to be done about it now?
Drive a SUV and drink cappuccino and vote for Hillary C. and chatter about Alphabet males?

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 23 2007 20:31 utc | 20

Dr. Yueh is right; the urge to bloodlust and conquest is as innate in each of us as is our sense of play. Maybe they spring from the same psychic source. Pat Tillman grew bored with ‘killing’ the other team on the gridiron, so he signed up to literally kill them Over There.
It made him happy. He was having a wonderful time, right up until that awkward, “Ohhh shit!” moment when somebody fumbled.
We like to kill, we like to rule, we like to conquer.
What do we do about it?
Finish what we started back there with agriculture. When Gandhi was asked what he thought of Western civilization, he replied that he thought it was a good idea.
We live as rapists upon this planet, currently. We need to realize that we are married to Gaia — that there is no human species outside of this biosphere. It’s just us on our planet. We will make it together, or Earth will continue without us.
Spaceship Earth is what I’m looking for. That phrase, that attitude, is what will allow us to live here successfully as a species.
Mankind’s success is that we can build a civilization, an operating system, and apply it to every one of us. We can restrain our worst impulses, and foster the better angels of our nature.
If political candidates were given an honest psychological assessment as a preliminary qualification for their running or not, we would have very few politicians at all, and we’d have to double every pay grade in order to attract some normal people to manage things.
We’re acting like chimps, all over the world. Nobody’s managing the planet. Nobody’s managing the nation. Nobody’s managing the species.
We just rule things, until they’re dead, dead, dead. And then something else that’s shiny catches our eye . . .

Posted by: Antifa | Jun 23 2007 20:57 utc | 21

Yes, Antifa. I think that’s what I was trying to say…if I could only make my two brain cells cooperate! 🙂
Not all chimps exhibit this behavior, just like not all humans do. The spectrum, from Ghandi to Stalin, is what I see. In chimps, we have the Ghandis and Stalins, but in gorillas and orangutans the spectrum seems more narrow.
I’m still undecided as to whether human intelligence is that exceptional. There are obviously other critters that have developed high intelligence and complex societies (from whales to wolves!), and even as Bernhard’s original post discusses, there are sub-societies of humans that are not so competitive as to destroy themselves.
[aside] What would (will?) gorilla technology look like? (Sorry, I just thought of that and added it!) [/aside]
As for administering some kind of psychological ‘acid test’ to determine the viability of our leaders, I’m flat against it. We could end up stuck in a society like Mr. Vonnegut’s ‘Player Piano’ that unintentionally squashed the creativity out of humanity in a misguided quest to stabilize it.
Smack me down if I’m babbling…I ain’t the smartest kid on the block, by a long shot!

Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | Jun 23 2007 21:21 utc | 22

We’re acting like chimps, all over the world.
I watched a show on chimps, or bonobos; anyhoo, just for fun they hunt monkeys, rip them apart and eat them. Imagine what they’d do with our toys…
Planet of the Apes, was really about us wasn’t it?
Spaceship Earth

Posted by: jcairo | Jun 23 2007 21:32 utc | 23

Dr. W. Yueh, I believe the Vonnegut to which you refer is Harrison Bergeron

Posted by: jcairo | Jun 23 2007 21:44 utc | 24

We just rule things, until they’re dead, dead, dead. And then something else that’s shiny catches our eye . . .

It’s that ghastly ol’ will to power eternally at work…

Posted by: A | Jun 24 2007 7:34 utc | 25

Why is it that fundamentalists who reject evolution often fully support a system that is nothing other than Social Darwinism?

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jun 24 2007 8:30 utc | 26

ralphieboy, its because they’re in a state of classic bad faith, and perfect contradiction

Posted by: anna missed | Jun 24 2007 9:00 utc | 27

am,
remember Secretary of the Interior James Watt, who explained that there is no need to conserve the resources God gave us because “we don’t know when Our Lord is going to return.”
And it would be a shame to waste them, wouldn’t it?

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jun 24 2007 18:55 utc | 28

Point granted on there being no place on the earth that the US doesn’t want to dominate the marketplace.. But let’s also consider Ahmadinejad trying to help the poor recently by lowering interest rates when they needed to be raised due to inflation, which he thought would allow the poor to get loans but had the opposite effect – let’s not get too carried away with the high minded poor helping caliphate. That is not any ideal society.
..
🙂

Posted by: bellgong | Jun 25 2007 5:09 utc | 29

Spaceship Earth is in that low-res image of Saturn, BTW, at about 10 o’clock & a little ways outside the bright inner ring
It is insignificant

Posted by: jcairo | Jun 25 2007 20:48 utc | 30

What if Our Lord returns and he won’t give back the cleaning deposit ‘cos we’ve messed up the place so bad?
I sometimes wish He would, ‘cos I think the fundies might be in for one hella surprise.
but that is wishful thinking. our mama can’t be with us any more, Bambi, and we’ve almost run out of drug money and the rent is due.

Posted by: DeAnander | Jun 26 2007 0:59 utc | 31

Chimps are just one bit of the plant-animal continuum. Lots of species in fact co-operate, the “communistic puppy-dog” Meerkats, for example, who have a kind of communal creche thing going with the young of the group.
Symbiosis and co-operation are de-emphasized among our modern biology, which is convenient really. Red-in-tooth-&-claw capitalism must be “natural”, after all. And how can we possibly change this big, immutable thing, nature?
This book covers some of the other side of the story, including Beatrix Potter, a serious naturalist whose work on lichens had to be read out at the Linnean Society in London by her uncle as she couldn’t do it herself on account of being the wrong gender to have undertaken such research in the first place. QED.

Posted by: Dismal Science | Jun 26 2007 1:22 utc | 32