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May 1, 2007
Open Thread 07-34
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The story about Col. Steele is somhow fishy:
This sounds like the case against the Muslim chaplain in Guantanamo who was accussed of various things too because he was too friendly with the prisoners. Evidence that Cheney was behind the Niger forgeries? Secret Order By Gonzales Delegated Extraordinary Powers To Aides
Youtube: 4 000 000 demonstrate in Istanbul Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 1 2007 7:38 utc | 5 The U.S. wants “missile defense” in Poland against a “threat from Iran”. It especially claims that it is not against a perceived “threat from Russia”.
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what i find odd, is if one was going to pass on secret military information, why sandwich it in pornography? Posted by: annie | May 1 2007 11:41 utc | 8
Probably not news to most here, but, for the curious, google “Michael Ledeen.”
peace, friends! Posted by: manonfyre | May 1 2007 13:08 utc | 9 a new mayor for mogadishu, and it almost looks like we’re back to the situation where the (u.s.-backed) warlords ran mogadishu, before the rise of the ICU, which kicked them out.
that group of warlords was the “Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counter-Terrorism” & was funded by the cia.
Posted by: b real | May 1 2007 15:16 utc | 10 Guardian on the protests in Turkey:
Posted by: a swedish kind of death | May 1 2007 15:44 utc | 11 you just beat me out on that story, r’giap. very good news indeed, for it gives courage to other nations to stand up to the bullies.
Posted by: b real | May 1 2007 16:19 utc | 13 asia times online: ATol’s “Roving Eye”, Pepe Escobar, is back in Iraq and in the Red Zone – that is, outside “Fortress USA”, the Green Zone. This is the first of his unembedded, non-Kevlar-protected, bodyguardless reports. Posted by: b real | May 1 2007 18:05 utc | 14 Venezuela: 20% Minimum Salary Raise, Withdrawal from World Bank and IMF
Posted by: b real | May 1 2007 19:33 utc | 15 This is good news for my Turkish friends.
If Erdogan had pulled this of and installed Gul, the military would have taken over. That’s not unsual in Turkey and usually peaceful, but new elections is certainly a better way. 62 yesterday. Posted by: Hamburger | May 1 2007 21:23 utc | 17 This week’s Harper’s review could have been lifted from a novel by Vonnegut.
Yes, you are not dreaming. Posted by: PeeDee | May 2 2007 1:15 utc | 18 If a government falls in the forest and no one reports it… Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 2 2007 4:51 utc | 21 The story of Col. Steele (see 2) is getting more fishy. Looks like they will “hang him” for not being brutal enough. First the accusations, than the facts:
So there was one phonecall he let a juvenile prisoner do with his parents on his governement cellphone. Anger in Baghdad as Americans finish wall
So what is Maliki doing in this? And now for something completely different… Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 2 2007 7:50 utc | 24 A noble cause to join (this one is for annie) Posted by: Bea | May 2 2007 14:10 utc | 25 TMP: Today’s Must Read
Oh it gets better, wait for it… Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 2 2007 14:23 utc | 26 thanks bea, that being mother’s day i will be spending it in the bay area w/my mom. i’ll check out where they are standing and head on over.. Posted by: annie | May 2 2007 15:02 utc | 27 Text of CA Democratic Party Impeachment Resolution
Posted by: annie | May 2 2007 15:26 utc | 28 btw, we had a 5,000 strong may day protest in seattle yesterday. i must be way out of the loop because i didn’t hear about it til today. apparently it shut down traffic as it traveled down forth street at rush hour garnering lots of coverage. Posted by: annie | May 2 2007 15:31 utc | 29 Amnesty International: Kenya denied Somalia refugees
Posted by: b real | May 2 2007 15:57 utc | 30 National Review
b, you think that is something? check this out
Posted by: dan of steele | May 2 2007 19:39 utc | 32 second in series of pepe escobar’s “roving in the red zone”, taking a look at the alleged death of the mysterious leader of AQ in iraq & what it portends Posted by: b real | May 2 2007 19:56 utc | 33 DOS’s #32 Article is ***MUST READ ARTICLE ALERT** Posted by: jj | May 2 2007 23:48 utc | 34 @jj I see this as intimately (ahem) connected with a juvenile and terrified insistence on simplification, uniformity, control. the ultimate simplification is to have one person make all the decisions and everyone else obey — in theory anyway. but ecosystems simplified to this extent will collapse… some people are very, very frightened of complexity and absolutely piss themselves at the idea that things are not — and cannot be — under total control. Posted by: DeAnander | May 3 2007 0:15 utc | 35 that fear of complexity & the adulation of absolutes & the rejection of multiplicity makes ours the most firightening of ages Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 3 2007 0:23 utc | 36 AP puts lipstick on a terrorist
that line about grabbing AQ operatives off the streets is, of course, nonsense, as dhere was likely one of the key sources of such dubious claims, useful for getting help to eliminate your rivals (ain’t that right, meles?). what’s amazing, though not unexpected, about the AP narrative, is how they can seriously let dhere — “one of the country’s most feared and ruthless warlords,” widely hated for his use of “indiscriminate violence” — get away w/ making proclamations that the “time of terrorists is over.”
i can only imagine the guy was laughing to himself as the reporter wrote that crap down. twenty police cars to pacify a city of more than 1.5 million? heh. but they bought the AQ story, so why not… Posted by: b real | May 3 2007 4:26 utc | 37 why not a moment of silence… Posted by: conchita | May 3 2007 6:24 utc | 38 News from Mr Karzai, mayor of Kabul: Afghans Say U.S. Bombing Killed 42 Civilians
Wow – who would have thought that … 4 Killed in Green Zone Rocket Attack
An Israeli air-strike against Iran’s nuclear installations may never
Needless to say, one may foresee a brilliant future in governmental service for the authors without in any way endorsing the basic notion Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | May 3 2007 10:50 utc | 42 wolfowitz – he seems not only to lack decency but dignity as well – still holding on the slenderest of threads at the world bank & making a dog’s dinner of it Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 3 2007 12:57 utc | 43 still holding … at the world bank & making a dog’s dinner of it new PINR somalia analysis(?) up
Andrew Young, bagman for US capitalism in Africa
Posted by: b real | May 3 2007 15:29 utc | 45 Youtube: Rove / Nixon :
(Rove working for Nixon – Rove appears at 4 minutes into the clip) Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 3 2007 17:33 utc | 46 My, my. Life is full of surprises, isn’t it.
Posted by: DM | May 3 2007 18:45 utc | 47 third installment from pepe escobar unembedded in iraq
a most bizarre premise, especially as the article goes on to define organic agriculture
is the premise that the developed countries are responsible for creating this agricultural “phenomenon”? Posted by: b real | May 3 2007 19:52 utc | 48 Conchita was following a movement in Mexico that ended with federales storming the city and beating the crap out of the folks there. Posted by: dan of steele | May 3 2007 19:58 utc | 49 very general but well worth it Posted by: Noirette | May 3 2007 20:05 utc | 51 is the premise that the developed countries are responsible for creating this agricultural “phenomenon”? Posted by: DeAnander | May 3 2007 22:12 utc | 52 Our household just went through four days of imperial- middle-class trauma. First our water main broke and our first best guess at a dig missed the pipe and took our some roots of a 60 foot Blue Spruce. The first diagnostic by the water company and the excavator were that we might have to take out an enclosed porch that sits over the water feed. Major bucks if so. Posted by: Juannie | May 4 2007 0:02 utc | 53 an example of how u.s. government propaganda get disseminated
it was picked up in a few other media outlets, which did source the article to VOA. but it also runs today in shabelle word-for-word and credited to Aweys Osman Yusuf Posted by: b real | May 4 2007 15:28 utc | 55 rfk’s conspiracy theory and personal investigation about the assasination of john kennedy from “brothers” by david talbot, salon’s founder and former editor in chief. Posted by: conchita | May 4 2007 18:55 utc | 56 catching up: last month slate ran some excerpts from john ghazvinian’s new book on the scramble for african oil
from the first installment, among the many reasons he states that the african oil is so valued by the imperialists, ghazvinian writes:
well, i’m not convinced that big oil is really worried about keeping the price of oil down, nor are they having troubles securing enough oil right now to worry about limits on production. nigeria & angola, the two largest oil producers in sub-saharan africa, are already members of OPEC. the attraction is easier exploitation & less restriction at points in the future, if those other oil producers are not members of OPEC or some intergovernmental OPEC-type of organization.
OTOH, AFRICOM is the u.s. form of leverage to prevent this type of strategic development. Posted by: b real | May 4 2007 19:21 utc | 57 Hmm – this NYT story didn’t get much echo – at least in the blogs I read. Could it be that it doesn’t fit the approved tale?
they keep telling us that little king sarkozy will win – my french compatriots do not understand what damage thatcher did in englan & reagan in america, howard has transformed the larrikan australians into simple & cruel clowns Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 4 2007 21:34 utc | 59 just learned that howard zinn has put out a call for activist groups to come together to organize nationwide town meetings towards impeachment. worldcan’twait is acting on this and believes codepink and others are joining in. watch for a townhall meeting near you towards the end of june or if you’re inspired get involved with organizing one. i’m sure juannie will have suggestions and i should be ablet to help put you in touch with other organizers. Posted by: conchita | May 4 2007 23:07 utc | 60 The pet food recall issue is beginning to look like a replay of Katrina, only in slower motion:
That’s the entire article, found via Itchmo Posted by: Alamet | May 5 2007 0:31 utc | 61 just learned that howard zinn has put out a call for activist groups to come together to organize nationwide town meetings towards impeachment. worldcan’twait is acting on this and believes codepink and others are joining in. Posted by: jj | May 5 2007 1:01 utc | 62 I think I have spent the better part of two days reading through this thread and following up most of the links, bookmarking several to pass on. It contains a wealth of stuff! Posted by: Oregongal | May 5 2007 2:30 utc | 63 oregongal- yes, pepe escobar is for real. always worth the read, imo. his latest report is
Posted by: b real | May 5 2007 3:28 utc | 64 From Pat Lang’s site 🙂
Posted by: DM | May 5 2007 4:10 utc | 65 What is it with typepad? Never had trouble before with short comments without links. Is AK47 a dirty word? Posted by: DM | May 5 2007 4:12 utc | 66 Oregongal – Escobar for real? – good question – saw some blog entry form someone who met him in Iran – but who knows – does it matter? one of the sources (endnote #54) i used in my AFRICOM report stated that the u.s. was strategically working to control the strait of malacca in order to block china’s flow of raw materials, esp oil, from africa (& the ME). currently, eighty percent of china’s oil imports ship through that narrow strait.
there’s already a controversy over existing gas & oil pipeline projects exploiting the natural resources of myanmar. for instance, total & unocal are involved in the yadana natural gas pipeline project. throw chinese & indian pipelines into the mix & things are likely to reach the level of combustion. Posted by: b real | May 5 2007 4:48 utc | 68 b real #68 Posted by: Oregongal | May 5 2007 6:08 utc | 69 Washington’s War by Michael Rose
Francis Fukuyama Beating an orderly retreat
And another marginal “neocon”: The Global Empire of Niall Ferguson
Inconsistent to the core … From b’s #73 Posted by: Monolycus | May 5 2007 11:13 utc | 74 Bush administration proposes retroactive immunity for phone companies Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 5 2007 14:50 utc | 76 On the subject of the ethics of our “freedom fighters” in Iraq turns out quite a few of them don’t have any. What a surprise. Posted by: ran | May 5 2007 17:38 utc | 77 Milbank the cynic: Dozens of Heads Were Bowed
bringing all the old warlords back into mogadishu
Posted by: b real | May 6 2007 6:13 utc | 79 Always sort of wondered what A Swedish Kind of Death actually is. Turns out it’s cancer.
Not to carry over the vitriol from the thread about US soldier’s deaths, but I’ve been thinking about it and this story illustrates the conclusion I’ve come to about the whole thing. The pro-side creates and perpetuates the meat grinder and accuses the anti-side of enjoying it. Meanwhile, the anti-side is too uncomfortable with the idea to use growing casualty rates as leverage to end this thing. And the beat goes on. Mounting casualty rates will continue, staggering costs to the taxpaying public will continue… it’s a fucking, unstoppable juggernaut. Posted by: Monolycus | May 6 2007 7:08 utc | 80
It’ll be interesting to see if Laura Rozen over at War and Piece ackowledges this story B. (she hasn’t yet) Posted by: ran | May 6 2007 14:23 utc | 82 |
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