Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
May 18, 2007
Only The Republican Way of Life?

Paul Krugman writes:

But aside from John McCain, who to his credit echoed Gen. Petraeus (and was met with stony silence), the candidates spoke enthusiastically in favor of torture and against the rule of law. Rudy Giuliani endorsed waterboarding. Mitt Romney declared that he wants accused terrorists at Guantánamo, “where they don’t get the access to lawyers they get when they’re on our soil … My view is, we ought to double Guantánamo.” His remarks were greeted with wild applause.
[…]
What we need to realize is that the infamous “Bush bubble,” the administration’s no-reality zone, extends a long way beyond the White House. Millions of Americans believe that patriotic torturers are keeping us safe, that there’s a vast Islamic axis of evil, that victory in Iraq is just around the corner, that Bush appointees are doing a heckuva job — and that news reports contradicting these beliefs reflect liberal media bias.

And the Republican nomination will go either to someone who shares these beliefs, and would therefore run the country the same way Mr. Bush has, or to a very, very good liar.
Don’t Blame Bush, Paul Krugman, NYT, May 18, 2007 (liberated version)

Well said, but I’d argue that this phenomenon stretches beyond the Republican party and one has to extend some of the above to quite a chunk of Democratic politicians and their voters. How many Dems did vote for the Patriot Act I and II and the Military Commission Act killing habeas corpus?

Further, change the subject from torture to the justification of a general Empire foreign policy and "city upon a hill" attitude and you’ll  have a quite solid majority of U.S. people who share no-reality believes.

Comments

I’d argue that this phenomenon stretches beyond the Republican party
if you haven’t read the palast interview it is worth the read (thanks rick)
schumer on the rule of law packs a little punch.

Posted by: annie | May 18 2007 18:45 utc | 1

What we need to realize is that the infamous “Bush bubble,” the administration’s no-reality zone, extends a long,long, long way beyond the White House. Millions of people, world-wide
bold-face amendments are mine

Posted by: jcairo | May 18 2007 19:15 utc | 2

Thank you, B Sir. Well said!

Posted by: Jake | May 18 2007 19:40 utc | 3

@jcairo – yes, it’s world wide – nough wingnuts in my country too …

Posted by: b | May 18 2007 20:03 utc | 4

I am afraid we are looking at a public for whom detective shows, reality shows and the nightls news all run together into one blur.
We see a detective show in which a dangerous criminal/terrorist commits his dirty deed and then exploits every loophole in our criminal justice system to escape his due punishment. We then come to believe that anyone who is being detained & questioned by our police or military must fit exactly into that mold.
And we have been convinced that there is a dark and looming menace out there beyond the glow of our late-night TV screens, and only torture, repression and unlimited access to personal firearms can keep it at bay.

Posted by: ralphieboy | May 18 2007 20:13 utc | 5

I recall this story here only because it illustrates the mental habits of most of humanity throughout most of our history. When confronted with the mysterious, the inexplicable or the unsettling, popular wisdom tells us we should ignore it and hope it will go away. (An Irish proverb says, “If you see a two-headed pig, keep your mouth shut.”) Just about the only humans not governed by this infophobic reflex have dwelt in the bohemian artistic and “deviant” sub-cultures, where the dominant attitude partakes more of infophilia. (As one of Shakespeare’s characters says, “If it be new, it matters not how vile.”) Modern experience, as it graduates into the postmodern, seems to have overwhelming tendencies to move more and more people from infophobia to infophilia, sometimes with shocking and traumatic abruptness.. Let me define the two key terms I have just used. As readers of Prometheus Rising will remember, the Leary model of “first circuit” (infantile, oral) consciousness has a forward-back polarity: we tend to go forward to Mother/safe-space or anything motherly (associated with mother/safety by genetic programs, imprints or conditioning) and we tend to retreat backward away from the unmotherly, the unsafe, the predatory. This level of consciousness exists throughout faunal evolution, and in humans it forms the bedrock of either a innovative/creative or a conservative/conformist lifestyle.
In my first attempts to popularize Dr. Leary’s work, I called these tendencies “neophilia” (creative) and “neophobia.”(conformist) I have more recently decided that infophilia and infophobia have more generality and describe the associated habits more broadly. The pure infophobe (represented not too badly by most “respectable” law-abiding citizens anywhere) obsessively avoids exotic foods, exotic ideas, exotic clothing, exotic people, “dern foreigners,” new technology, innovative art or music, tabu subjects, originality, creativity etc. Sen. Exon, Sen. Gramm, most of Congress, Theodore Roszack and Unibomber represent various styles of compulsive infophobic imprints. The pure infophile remains a relatively rare person at this primitive stage of evolution. The infophile seeks out the new and exotic in food, ideas, clothing, technology, art — everywhere. Picasso, Joyce, Niels Bohr, Bucky Fuller and all the murdered heretics and innovators of history represent extreme infophiliac imprints.
In Cosmic Trigger III, I represented these extremes by CSICOP (Committee for Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal), representing infophobia, and CSICON (Committee for Surrealist Investigation of Claims of the Normal) representing infophilia. Amusingly, many readers assumed I invented one of these organizations as a hoax or Swiftian satire, but they disagreed about which one…. Most of us, of course, exist somewhere on the continuum between pure infophobia and pure infophilia. (Personally, I lean toward infophilia about almost everything except eating octopus, in which case I remain nervously infophobic. I tried it once, and only once. I’d rather try digesting the back left tire of my car.)
Unfortunately for the infophobic majority, civilization derives from increasingly rapid information processing, which means that those “open societies” which accumulate information fastest provide a higher quality of life in all respects than the “closed societies” where infophobia dominates. Tribal societies where tabu imprisons the minds of its members in strict infophobia never advance beyond Stone Age conditions until or unless incorporated into more “open” societies.
After the coming of the Holy Inquisition, nobody discovered any new chemical elements in the Catholic nations of Europe; all the new chemical discoveries, i.e., the majority of the elements now known, came from Protestant nations. (See my Reality Is What You Can Get Away With for more data on this.) Even today, the effects of the Inquisition linger on, visibly, in the quality of life in most of northern Europe as compared to southern (Catholic) Europe. Similarly, seven years after the fall of the Soviet Union, the effects of the Stalinist closed society still hang on as a dead weight against the efforts of the reformers.
Moslem nations, although suddenly rich due to Oil, still show general backwardness compared to the more open European nations. As Norbert Weiner, one of the first two mathematicians to define information and show its importance, wrote once, “To live effectively is to live with adequate information.” Infophobic societies do not live very well compared to more open societies where infophilia remains permissible even if not yet widespread. For instance, a United Nations study of “quality of life,” including education, life expectancy, civil liberties, medical care and economic wellbeing ranked the five top nations as:
* Canada
* Japan
* Iceland
* Sweden
* Switzerland
None of these nations have one dominant religion or one dominant dogmatic ideology; all rank as “open” in Sir Karl Popper’s sense, and all either encourage or allow infophilia. No Catholic or Islamic nation made it into the top five. Infophobia means stagnation and, usually, filth, poverty, plague and general misery. (And don’t forget that what I here call infophobia means exactly what the Right Wing in this country calls “traditional family values,” including the right to hate the same people that Grandpa hated.) But an infophiliac age, such as we now willy-nilly live in, has its own risks, and the chief of these lies in the growing uncertainty that comes over all those who try to “keep up” with the latest discoveries. The most telling example of this social Uncertainty Principle: the dizzying attempt to find out what foods really nourish you and what foods might shorten your life. I sometimes think this adds a bit of stress to every mouthful of food we eat these days.
Every time a major new scientific study of nutrition and health appears, millions learn that some of what they have believed safe actually may contain hidden dangers — or, even weirder, foods considered dangerous by the known data of 1986 may look much safer according to the data of 1996. I use this example because more average persons try to keep up with this field than with any other; but the same general indefinite wobble infests all science lately. If you have miraculously read enough to have the latest knowledge in all fields as of December 1996, a large part of what you know, or think you know, has already fallen under the axe of more recent research. But even more unsettlingly, you simply could not have read that much, even if you found a way to live without eating or sleeping. Dr. Stanley Ullam estimated, nearly 30 years ago, that the best-read full-time mathematicians knew about 5% of the theorems published since 1900; nobody in any other science knows much more than that about their own field. I once met a very knowledgeable physicist, who had specialized in rocketry and astronautics, and he not only knew less about Bell’s Theorem than I, a layperson, did: he had actually never even heard of Bell’s Theorem. (I feel quite sure that among the 99% of biochemistry I know nothing about, there exist several discoveries as important as John Bell’s nonlocality.) According to a legend I have always doubted, the Chinese have a curse which says, “May you live in interesting times.” I doubt this because you can’t say that to anybody unless you live in the same times as they do; but nonetheless I find wisdom in the subtle Oriental irony here. Nobody any longer doubts that we live in interesting times, or that they get more interesting every year.

The Walls Came Tumbling Down
There are two kinds of people in the world, those who believe there are two kinds of people in the world and those who know better…” ~Tom Robbins

Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 18 2007 21:06 utc | 6

is abu gonzo leaving?

Posted by: annie | May 18 2007 22:51 utc | 7

annie, it’ll have to be your time….

Posted by: beq | May 18 2007 23:59 utc | 8

girls, gonzo’s not going & in any case can you imagine his replacement – the vietnamese exile from hell john yoo – master of laws & rights of men

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 19 2007 0:11 utc | 9

john yoo? wouldn’t the senate have to confirm him??
i don’t think they will go so easy on the next guy, if there is one.

Posted by: annie | May 19 2007 0:36 utc | 10

or is it woo – the little devil who likes writing diktats & torture & eavesdropping

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 19 2007 0:40 utc | 11

the little devil

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 19 2007 1:22 utc | 12

i know who he is!!

Posted by: annie | May 19 2007 1:27 utc | 13

i no yoo doo

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 19 2007 1:29 utc | 14

i have spent a week reading john dos passos for my work . the magnificent trilogy, ‘ u s a’ – it tells you all about the beast from the interior – it is a work that tells us the city on the hill was not only a delusion but built on the blood & bones of the poor & oppressed
whatever is at the core of the empire can be understood reading this telling work. there are no illussions here – just the terrible reality both of the fact & of the metaphysics – the idea of the idea of hegel illuminated all oveer this work
i cannot imagine someone who has read them & not be touched – & to turn their hearts towards politics & justice. & when we have amongst our friends – some who do not want to speak of the empire – i will tell them again – read yr dos passos, read yr dreiser, read yr agee – even read yr djuana barnes – & they will tell you how the empiure was built & how was constructed its terrible tragedy
what could have been a jewel of the enlightenment has turned into its opposite – every ‘advance’ of those united states is only cause for shame & horror

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 19 2007 1:53 utc | 15

b,
Your posts are so great there is no doubt that you could chair the American Studies program at the University of Hamburg.
The Culture Wars in America have been mentioned. But, an aspect not generally mentioned is the decline of the state and the rise of globalization. If you have the education and valued skills, the world is literally at your feet. If you don’t, you are screwed.
Only Paul Krugman pointed out the radical true believer nature of the GOP. The 30% of America that the Party depends on are the losers in globalization sinking into debt who depend on religion and race for meaning in life. The tragedy is that their support for the GOP allows the wealthy to screw them even more. What is a tragedy for the world is that the Bush Administration believed its own propaganda; “Greed is good. Government is evil”. The United States actions are so reactionary and against true globalization, Wall Street may yet pave the way for the return of the Clintons to the White House.

Posted by: Jim S | May 19 2007 1:55 utc | 16

contrarian that I seem to be, I have to note that there is a great difference between being in favor of, clapping enthusiastically for the idea of torture (as in this week’s gop debates) and the “city on a hill” idea. the first crosses a crucial line in human rights that, previously, would have been considered outside the realm of decency to support in open. the second stems from an idea that someone has something to offer others, however dubious this idea or the racism, etc. inherent in the thought.
this is a huge difference, and surely people here can appreciate this difference and the way the eliding of the two weakens horror of the first. this is not the to say the latter isn’t harmful. but the first one is a corrosion of individual souls, not just a national soul.
r-giap- yes, dos passos is great. his “streams of information channels consciousness” writing employed in the trilogy remind me of internet form of communication.

Posted by: fauxreal | May 19 2007 3:13 utc | 17

Will the U.S. turn away from imperialism while there’s still a chance? As imperialism harms ordinary people at home as well as abroad, there is some hope, I think; as both right-wing Christianism and the military-industrial-congressional complex benefit from its continuance, I admit to not being optimistic about it. See tomdispatch.com for Chalmers Johnson’s thoughts on ending the empire, though.

Posted by: mistah charley | May 19 2007 4:20 utc | 18

@fauxreal – agreed
The “city on a hill” is not equivilant to torture. But it is used as a base for it. It expresses national exceptionalism which then is used to justify whatever one wants to do.
In its basic form exceptionalism is certainly not unique to the U.S. there is a certain degree of nationalism/tribalism everywhere. But the weight it is getting in U.S. life and politics reminds me of some of the worst we have seen in Europe two/three/four generations ago.
A late romantic German poet Emanuel Geibel(born in Luebeck 🙂 had a line in a poem on “Germany’s Destiny” that said “The German character will heal the world”. That line (and the alike in other countries) was used in WWI and WWII to justify the slaughter. I hope Europe has exceeded such thinking.
The Puritan “city upon a hill” line was often used and misinterpreted by Reagan. But it was/is widely excepted in his sense, as is “Manifest Destiny”.
Reading Obama’s speech on foreign policy one can see it in about every second line. If he becomes president, it will be used by him to justify his wars and lots of Democrats will applause.
The U.S. to me looks still stuck in an old thinking. I’d like to know why.

Posted by: b | May 19 2007 8:43 utc | 19

mistah charly recommended a Chalmers Johnson pieceIn it Johnson says with regard to the military.

One would have thought the high command had learned some lessons from the defeat of 1975. Instead, it once again went to war pumped up on our own propaganda — especially the conjoined beliefs that the United States was the “indispensable nation,” the “lone superpower,” and the “victor” in the Cold War; and that it was a new Rome the likes of which the world had never seen, possessing as it did — from the heavens to the remotest spot on the planet — “full spectrum dominance.”

That’s getting it too short. It’s not the “high command” that failed to learn the lessons from the Vietnam war. It’s the nation.
Yes there were lots of protests against the Iraq war. But more people agreed than opposed the war.
Why was the “vietnam lesson” not learned?

Posted by: b | May 19 2007 9:01 utc | 20

The U.S. to me looks still stuck in an old thinking. I’d like to know why.
I once heard it explained as a sort of Mission Impossible syndrome. bad people were foiled every week in less than hour (with commercials). the US has also saved the world many times in films like my favorite “Mars Attacks” or others dealing with alien invasions or imminent collisions with giant rocks. we had the biggest cars, the longest trains, the fastest airplanes, the tallest buildings, the most money, the smartest doctors, the cleverest inventors, the best music for a period toward the end of the last century.
Most of that is no longer so but folks either don’t know or don’t want to know. Since there is very little they can do about it anyway….why not continue with the happy thoughts?

Posted by: dan of steele | May 19 2007 9:01 utc | 21

John Yoo & Company at the “Justice Department” have simply taken a sponge to what is left of the 4th Amendment. There was an excellent report by Hedrick Smith on PBS’s Frontline this week. It exposed the Administration’s driftnet of data mining, that has been made possible with the complicity of communications corporations like AT&T. Say hello your new best friend, the Surveillance State.
As far as Krugman’s article goes, I just don’t know how pervasive the “non-reality zone” of the “Bush Bubble” is, across the face of America. I have written in the past that “There will be no soft landing for America”. This is especially true, if the majority in this country are holding onto some mindless faith in the “Hollywood Ending”. They are sure to be disappointed this time.
Last week, while reading the prologue to Chalmers Johnson’s new book, Nemesis, I came across this:

In early 2003, on the eve of the invasion of Iraq, I was putting the finishing touches on my portrait of the global reach of American military bases. In it, I suggested the sorrows already invading our lives, which were likely to be our fate for years to come: perpetual war, a collapse of constitutional government, endemic official lying and disinformation, and finally bankruptcy. At book’s end I advocated reforms intended to head off these outcomes but warned that “[f]ailing such a reform, Nemesis, the goddess of retribution and vengeance, the punisher of pride and hubris, waits impatiently for her meeting with us.”

I have to tell you, Bernhard, the one who scares me more than all the others in that republican glee club, is Mitt Romney, who is out to expand Guantanamo, and is using the demise of habeas corpus as an applause line.

Posted by: Copeland | May 19 2007 11:35 utc | 22

At least, the people of the US can point towards the blanket play of ‘exceptionalism’ or whatever, and justifiably (to some degree) argue that they are/were the victims of mass hypnosis… What is the Brits’ excuse?
Kidnap and torture: new claims of Army war crimes in Iraq

The British Army is facing new allegations that it was involved in “forced disappearances”, hostage-taking and torture of Iraqi civilians after the fall of the regime of Saddam Hussein.

That’s as good a list of war crimes as any, and British politicians or pundits won’t even display the crass sort of candor to come out and declare that the Geneva conventions are ‘quaint’.

Posted by: Alamet | May 19 2007 18:17 utc | 23

from alemet’s link..
On 15 May 2003 the 1st Battalion of the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers captured Iraqis looting an aid camp in Operation Ali-Baba. They were detained for a brief period during which they were beaten, forced to simulate oral and anal sex and suspended from a forklift truck. Later that month, Fusilier Gary Bartlam, 20, of Tamworth, Staffordshire, took a film to be developed containing 22 photographs of abuse taking place.
this sex torture was apparently not isolated to US military and began straight off after the invasion.

Posted by: annie | May 19 2007 19:17 utc | 24

@Copeland- I have to tell you, Bernhard, the one who scares me more than all the others in that republican glee club, is Mitt Romney,
I am not scared by Mitt, I’m scared by the people (plenty) who will vote for him.

Posted by: b | May 19 2007 21:05 utc | 25

speaking of torture/sex and war..

The soldier son of talk radio relationship counselor Laura Schlessinger is under investigation for a graphic personal Web page that one Army official has called “repulsive.”
The MySpace page, publicly available until Friday when it disappeared from the Internet, included cartoon depictions of rape, murder, torture and child molestation; photographs of soldiers with guns in their mouths; a photograph of a bound and blindfolded detainee captioned “My Sweet Little Habib”….
“Yes . . . F—ING Yes!!!” said one blog entry on the Schlessinger site. “I LOVE MY JOB, it takes everything reckless and deviant and heathenistic and just overall bad about me and hyper focuses these traits into my job of running around this horrid place doing nasty things to people that deserve it . . . and some that don’t.”
..
Deryk Schlessinger’s Web site indicated the 21-year-old soldier is stationed in Kandahar, Afghanistan, where, the site’s author writes, “godless crazy people like me,” have become “a generation of apathetic killers.”
The site indicated Schlessinger’s team has survived numerous mortar, rocket and roadside bomb attacks. It also included several graphic cartoons. In one of the stick drawings, a top-hatted man laughs as he rapes a bound and bleeding woman in front of her family. In another depiction, a man forces a boy to perform oral sex at knifepoint as the child’s mother pleads for her son’s life.

Posted by: annie | May 19 2007 22:32 utc | 26

annie
these episodes of depravity with soldiers & contractors are only possible because of the more genralised depravity of the empire
in a culture that bases its very power on the domination & the demeaning of others – episodes of the kind of cruelty that is becoming commonplace in the armed forces of the empire constitute standard operating procedure
i think the effect on those who oppose the empire – is at once illuminating yet at the same time – it is in its own instance defiling
common humanity as a concept & sometimes a a reality (as that expressed in the documentary on the coup against chavez & the succesful liquidation of that coup) is something to be celebrated but when that common humanity has been manipulated as the good germans were & as the americans are – that common humanity becomes something to be feared in every sense of that word
the good german was capable & in full consent & complicity – to live with the death of many millions named & unnamed – whether they were ‘mental deficients’ in the 30’s, whether they were the ‘enemy’, or they were parts of civil life that needed to be extinguished – jews & gypsies, or they were entire countries – like russia. the consent & complicty afforded collaboration right up until those same russian armies marched through what became the prussian wastelands. the elites who were elites stayed the elite under the german economic miracle of the 50’s & 60’s – this is well documented in the films & books of thomas harlan. they never ever accepted in any way the specidic nature of their crimes nor the details of their complicity & consent
in the united states – & we could begin with that moment when it expressed its utter negation of humanity in the showbombings of hiroshima & nagasaki (tho here – there is as i have sd a great deal of detail & specificity in the writers of american fiction of the 19th century & in the early 20th century) – you have a deliberate, consistent & evolving of the agressive & ‘genocidal’ aspects of the empire & a contingent manipulation of the motherland. from the 501’s to the present wars, mostly illegal & covert have been operated against the people of latin & central america, against the people of south east asia, of the african continent & always always against the arab people. these wars can only be waged when there is a ‘common consent’ of the people. the people have a moral responsibility. the soldiers moral responsibility is even higher
what is absent in the good german & the good american is the complete absence of a higher moral authority – either in the appareils (the institutions) or in the people themselves. that is why in the german case it wat transformed into a crude volkmystik – where earth & blood provided the only purity. the good american has transformed his somewhat dubious & highly speculative puritanism into a morality that can be governed from the pulpit of men who have shown themselves to be depraved in word & deed – whether it is a dobson, a jimmy swaggart, a pat robertson – whose concern for anything outside themselves is limited, very limited. their faith is built on sand but a deliberate quicksand for the devotee. doubly, this false faith is enshrined in the straussian intellectual elites who regard faith as a sort of plaything to be ‘donated’ to the ‘ordinary people’, the ‘herd’ as a kind of bread & circuses. make no mistake about it the perles & wolfowitzes of this world hate with unforgettable venom – the people – they mock, those in civil life who seek a common good. a common good is completely apposite to their intentions
what america has created is an abomination but it is an abomination which has its roots in the decay of western civilisation
as i sd earlier american independance (without the slaughter of the indians) could have been one of the beautiful exercises of the enlightenment – it has been nothing of a kind. what has happened in the last ten years tho is almost beyond belief – in both speed & depth of criminality. criminality in & of itself was with the empire from the very beginning – from the genocide of indians & annexation of other territories, to the contingent use of criminality to repress all elements of civil defence of its workers, a corruption of the workers unparalleled in any other country – even dictatorships & then in the 20th century a swathe of murder of the people of latin america, asia, africa & the middle east -carried under the banner of ‘democracy’. a democracy in itself so perverted that there are general & specific doubts about the two last elections & a general disenfranchisement of large sections of the population that also had its roots at the beginning of the last century
i have always been moved by the americans here at moon who do not seek to exculpate their country but work towards a possible changing of circumstance
some of the answers to the problems of the empire can only be resolved by the citizens of the empire. the unjust wars of the empire will be defeated where they are fought & at home precisely because they are not only unjust but criminal

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 20 2007 0:03 utc | 27

This is mostly old news to people here, but there is one sentence of interest:
U.S. Embassy in Iraq to Be Biggest Ever

… The second-most expensive embassy is the smaller $434 million U.S. mission being built in Beijing. …

There is a chance that fifty years from now, when China is The Power and US the have-been, the embassy in Beijing can serve as another museum for hubris and folly along with the Forbidden City.

Posted by: Alamet | May 20 2007 0:45 utc | 28

what i fear mostly, alamet is that we have not seen the end of the hubris – far from it – even my dark heart cannot imagine how far their hubris will take them

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 20 2007 0:50 utc | 29

As far as “a city on a hill”, as I remember it taught to me in high school, it meant being exemplary, and a contrast with a crusader state’s “army in the field”. The common denominator is a belief that others should adopt your culture and institutions This is in turn a common denominator with many other cultures and not a uniquely American/Islamic/Christian/Nazi/Communist/Socialist/Environmentalist/Vegetarian/Dadaist idea. No moral parallelism there.

Posted by: boxcar mike | May 20 2007 13:52 utc | 30

… need to realize is that the… “Bush bubble,” .. no-reality zone, extends a long way beyond the WH. Millions of Americans believe that patriotic torturers are keeping us safe, that there’s a vast Islamic axis of evil, that victory in Iraq is just around the corner.. contradicting these beliefs reflect liberal media bias.
Yes. On the face of it.
We are creatures of myth and belief, our reality is the stories we are told, the ‘facts’ we decide to accept and adhere to; the fabrics we weave and construct together. The view points constructed and taught by those who have vested authority, those who have power over us, who can hurt, exclude us; those who can turn us, us!, -whoever may be speaking- moral, friendly, sincere cooperative people, into outcasts, non-humans, trash, deprived of voice, love, and life.
To function, to live, we need to adhere, to participate, to join in, to believe.
The tales of those in power – in the US (elsewhere as well, etc.), the Gvmt., the think tanks, the military industrial complex, some of the corporations, big Pharma, the universities, Dee-fense, the ‘elites’, the banks / finance sector, the international ‘powers’, and all their hangers on, sent out 24/24 by the msm, have incredible sway.
Ppl deal with all this as best a they can…
Those who ‘sincerely’ believe often take on a position oscillating between perpetrator and victim. They may enlist, be good soldiers, and both kill or die.
Those who accept in part, are puzzled, sit on the fence, preserve some personal space, some autonomy, no matter how small, how trivial, self-serving, calculated, are edgy, doubting, but carry on – there are children to feed, family to care for, a mortgage, health, it all is due. They are in touch, and do complain – state of the roads, price of gas, fluoride in the water, Alaska, tests at school, etc. Righteous and strident or diffident and hesitant; they need not act – as it is possible, it is said, to vote for the candidates of *their choice*.
Others create a chasm between what is seen as ordinary life, beers around the BBQ, selling row-boats, supervising Public Parks, nurses nursing, programmers in the cubicle…and the tinny voices of politicians, anchors, experts, print editorials, either thru conscious blocking out or frightened, uncomprehending, withdrawal and disdain. Two planes of reality. Inshallah.
The poor, the outsiders (…), hold to cynicism and forced sacrifice which comes with that position; understanding and empathy for like are the badge of belonging. Gvmt. lies are completely transparent. They understand, better than most. (Even when they adhere with hopes…) Absolved of the responsibility of action, as they cannot have any impact – they face the sadistic boss with the time sheet, the slinky supervisor, the landlord, the frowning emergency doctor who will not, cannot, help; deal with impossible meanders that poverty imposes- .. they know.
The intellectual elite? Hmm. Who is that exactly, in the US? Or elsewhere, eg. as France, often cited (erroneously) as an opposing social system, Gov. force?
They seem to be wannabees – such as DKOS where it is forbidden, by explicit censorship, to question the official 9/11 fairy tale. (The tales we weave…) Or individual internet wankers. Or unwitting stooges for the PTB. Or worse. Or complainers, who tank up, landscape, hire maids at slave wages, and finally vote ..say for Obama…
a bit pompous 😉

Posted by: Noirette | May 20 2007 21:02 utc | 31

r’giap.. #27, did you notice this link from the ot thread on ideological hegemony?

Posted by: annie | May 20 2007 21:29 utc | 32

Inshallah we won’t hammer our species into extinction.
There were reports on the blogs today about Jimmy Carter’s declaration that the current Bush administration is “the worst in history” in international relations.
Carter broke the tradition about past presidents condemning a sitting president. I take some comfort from this, in that it seems to raise the ante in the unfolding political crisis. I may be grasping at straws, but perhaps it moves us by a small step toward impeachment or sufficient embarrassment or republican party panic, leading to what’s-his-name resigning the presidency. I’m dreaming; but there it is.
USA Today

Posted by: Copeland | May 20 2007 22:55 utc | 33

In #33 I meant to write “the tradition of not condemning a sitting president”.
There was a very good article in Friday’s edition of FindLaw, written by John Dean, in which he makes the point that if Congress should find the AG, Gonzales, in contempt of Congress; it would be within the inherent power of Congress to send the Capitol Police over to arrest him. Things would have to get pretty ugly in order for the issue to be resolved this way, but under those circumstances the AG could find himself in the cooler for the remainder of the president’s term of office.
If Bush’s personal lackey has to leave the office of Attorney General there will never again be so much of a barrier between the White House, Bush and Cheney, and the investigative processes that might begin to close in on them.
The news that has come out over the weekend indicates that the Senate vote of “no confidence” in Gonzales, which is likely to be registered this week, is by no means a symbolic vote. The margin of the vote is predicted to go in a big way against him. Among other things it would indicate the utter collapse of republican support for the president’s man.

It’s been clear for a while–and is becoming ever clearer–that the Attorney General ought to resign, or to be fired. Now, it seems that Congress is determined to force Gonzales from office or send him to jail, whichever they can do first.
This is plainly the right move–and anyone who does not understand why Congress is insisting on getting rid of Gonzales, does not appreciate the important and sensitive role the Department of Justice has in our government.

Posted by: Copeland | May 21 2007 4:12 utc | 34