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May 9, 2007
No Kurdistan Please

Some eight years ago I did a six week long tour by random public transport through the Kurdish parts of Turkey. One evening in a Diyarbakir restaurant, a small non-tourist place in a mostly Kurdish city, I got into a discussion with some local guys about a potential state of Kurdistan.

They didn’t know English or German and I didn’t know Turkish or Kurdish. So we talked for some hours by gestures and scribbling on paper napkins. It was quite intense.

They argued for a Kurdish state, I argued against it. While I understand the Kurdish drive as a big ethnic group to become a state of their own, I do believe it would do more harm to them than it would do good.

Kurds are living in the south east of Turkey, in northern Syria, in north-west Iran and in north Iraq (the folks I talked to prefered a state including even more like within the pink border line in this map.)

If Kurds would form a state, all other states in the region would lose some ground and everything they have invested there – mostly on credits. Turkey has spend billions in building dams and water distribution systems in its south-east.

I scribbled a map and marked it with weighted arrows describing the feelings from/to outer countries to an assumed Kurdish state. In the end all arrows were pointing in. Kurdistan would be a piece of earth where none of the people living around it would have friendly feelings for it. It would be a permenantly attacked state without any trade route from its ground to the outer world.

The driving dream of a Kurdish state seed in northern Iraq including Kirkuk is to develop by oil exports to the world markets. But which harbour would Kurdish pipelines go to? Kurdistan is landlocked. Would Turkey, Syria, Iran or Iraq support Kurdish pipelines while under threat of secession?

Definitly not.

My alternative suggestion was a kind of early European Union alike to be formed in the northern Middle East (it took two napkin pages to explain that, but I’m sure they got it.) This without a formal Kurdish state, but with a significant Kurdish national role in the supranational environment such a union would formalize.

It doesn’t look like they took my amateur advise: Turkish-Kurdish Dispute Tests U.S. Strategic Alliances

The long dispute between Turkey and Iraq over renegade Kurdish fighters camped on the Iraqi side of their shared border reached new heights last month. When the head of Iraq’s Kurdish regional government threatened to provoke an uprising among Turkish Kurds, Turkey responded with warnings of direct military action and an angry complaint to Washington.

If the Kurds think they will get more support from the U.S. than some general senseless verbal growling against Turkey they are screwed again. The U.S. has neither any real interest in an independent Kurdistan, nor the means to guarantee it. Turkey and Iran can put down any Kurdish ambition by military means and they will not hesitate to do so if needed. Any such action would be very bloody.

I am in support of a ethnic Kurdish commonality – it’s a great historic culture and all Kurds I ever met are very good and kind people. I’m a regular at their Newroz parties here. But being a prosperous people doesn’t require a Kurdish state and the generations of violence that would follow its creation.

Comments

An incisive and courageous analysis and political correctness be damned.
I spent a year in Sinop as an ignorant enlisted man but even I learned that the Turkish reality is complicated and there are no simple let alone elegant solutions to its problems

Posted by: Chuck Cliff | May 9 2007 21:02 utc | 1

An incisive and courageous analysis and political correctness be damned.
I spent a year in Sinop as an ignorant enlisted man but even I learned that the Turkish reality is complicated and there are no simple let alone elegant solutions to its problems

Posted by: Chuck Cliff | May 9 2007 21:02 utc | 2

Don’t claim to be an expert, but my understanding after a few years of reading on this particular situation is as follows: The indepedant Kurdistan as envisioned would give them control of a vast majority of Turkey’s fresh water supplies. Turkey cannot, will not let this happen. You can’t drink oil.

Posted by: mikefromtexas | May 10 2007 0:31 utc | 3

the incendiary illegal & immoral invasion & occupation of iraq has thrown the kurdish ‘dream’ into a hellfire that has thrown geopolitics not only in the middle east but also in the far east all the ex soviet republics – that is to say all that border or are near afghanistan are going to see turmoil that would have been unimaginable even 10 years ago
we are witnesssing the end of an empire but the damage that it is going to do will be both extremely dangerous & long term
the jurs will have to wait another century or two for their dream

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 10 2007 0:45 utc | 4

the incendiary illegal & immoral invasion & occupation of iraq has thrown the kurdish ‘dream’ into a hellfire that has thrown geopolitics not only in the middle east but also in the far east all the ex soviet republics – that is to say all that border or are near afghanistan are going to see turmoil that would have been unimaginable even 10 years ago
we are witnesssing the end of an empire but the damage that it is going to do will be both extremely dangerous & long term
the jurs will have to wait another century or two for their dream

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 10 2007 0:45 utc | 5

the kurds will have to wait another century or two for their dream

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 10 2007 0:46 utc | 6

the kurds will have to wait another century or two for their dream

Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 10 2007 0:46 utc | 7

I blame Woodrow Wilson.
The Kurdish question is the biggest tinderbox the US is sitting on in Iraq short of an attack on Iran. “serious” foreign policy idiots like Joe Biden ignore this and propose to give the Kurds an independent state. Pissing off the Turks is a horrible idea, for US interests and probably the world’s in general as well.

Posted by: Rowan | May 10 2007 4:58 utc | 8

Turkey won’t accept an independent Kurdistan, won’t accept a Kurdish identity, won’t accept Kurdish language, won’t accept anything. The ideas you are promoting sounds like Ocalan’s stupid plan of confederalism. And some Kurdish politicians are already working for some sort of limited autonomy within Turkey. Look to General Kenan Evren’s words, they want to prosecute him for it. We want bread, food, water and our cultural rights. No more oppression.
By the way, if you were a Kurd or Turk living in Turkey, you could end up in prison for saying writing this column.. hahaha. Long live the democratic Turkish state!!! Biji Ataturk.

Posted by: Murat | May 10 2007 6:58 utc | 9

Why not have every ethnic group in the world be granted its own ethnic state? And everyone who is intermarried, or living in the wrong area will, unfortunately, have to be “cleansed.”
Sure sounds good to me.

Posted by: Native American | May 10 2007 16:53 utc | 10

Why is it that Eurocentrica can and has asserted its natural affinities for thousands of years but others like the Kurds are’nt allowed to ? In fact, minus its seasoned affinities, the highly successful Eurocentric class structure would not exist.
All the Kurds (& others) want is to be allowed to season their affinities too, though practically on a much smaller scale than, say China.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | May 11 2007 5:22 utc | 11