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May 21, 2007
Insulting Gestures in Iraqi Culture

There is an important cultural issue to learn from this Iraq piece in today’s Washington Post. The article is about some reluctance in the U.S. military to launch a Fallujah like attack on Sadr City.

But the really good stuff is in the very last paragraph:

Col. Hamoud, a police liaison who has lived in Sadr City for 19 years and spoke on condition his full name not be used, said residents welcome aid from the United States brought peacefully, but warned that if U.S. troops use force, they will meet opposition.

"If they put their boots on people’s heads," he said, referring to a highly insulting gesture in Iraqi culture, "there will be fighting."

Wow – who would have known? It’s highly insulting to Iraqis when you put boots on their heads?

The average reader would certainly have expected otherwise. Thank you Washington Post for letting us know. How alien these Iraqis are – funny little weirdos – ain’t they?

How about other issues? Like when you pee into someones tea is that an insult in Iraqi culture?

Maybe one can ask the writer of the piece, Ann Tyson. She seems to know a lot about the special features of Iraqi culture.

But don’t step on her head. She’s in Iraq, and there such is a highly insulting gesture.

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Secret US plot to kill Al-Sadr

The US Army tried to kill or capture Muqtada al-Sadr, the widely revered Shia cleric, after luring him to peace negotiations at a house in the holy city of Najaf, which it then attacked, according to a senior Iraqi government official.
The revelation of this extraordinary plot, which would probably have provoked an uprising by outraged Shia if it had succeeded, has left a legacy of bitter distrust in the mind of Mr Sadr for which the US and its allies in Iraq may still be paying. “I believe that particular incident made Muqtada lose any confidence or trust in the coalition and made him really wild,” the Iraqi National Security Adviser Dr Mowaffaq Rubai’e told The Independent in an interview. It is not known who gave the orders for the attempt on Mr Sadr but it is one of a series of ill-considered and politically explosive US actions in Iraq since the invasion. In January this year a US helicopter assault team tried to kidnap two senior Iranian security officials on an official visit to the Iraqi President. Earlier examples of highly provocative actions carried out by the US with
little thought for the consequences include the dissolution of the Iraqi army and the Baath party.
The attempted assassination or abduction took place two-and-a-half years ago in August 2004 when Mr Sadr and his Mehdi Army militiamen were besieged by US Marines in Najaf, south of Baghdad.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 21 2007 8:59 utc | 1

Iraq’s VP rejects draft oil bill

Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 21 2007 9:05 utc | 2

the thing about boots on the head is not quite the whole story. I lived in Thailand for about 6 months many years ago and we were told the Thais have a similar outlook for things concerning their heads. Perhaps JFL will correct me if I am wrong but it is extremely insulting to pat someone on the top of their head, it is even more outrageous to put the lowest part of your body on the highest part of another (and that would be the boots part). It is considered very rude to even expose the soles of your feet to others so GIs who kicked back to have a beer and put their feet up on the table or bench or whatever were being rude without even knowing it. we were told this and most of us even tried to be nice to the Thais. Of course none of them were trying to kill us and many were quite happy to make our lives comfortable in ways I will leave to your imagination so the differences wrt Iraq are huge in that respect.

Posted by: dan of steele | May 21 2007 12:14 utc | 3

kinda cool to see Moon of Alabama on the WaPo’s list of who’s blogging.
you are in b!

Posted by: dan of steele | May 21 2007 12:22 utc | 4

Pro-US Coup at al-Jazeera?

“Google News is carrying a report by Italy’s Ukunet that there has been a shakeup at the Al Jazeera network in Doha, Qatar with the removal of Managing Director Wadah Khanfer and the current Executive Board and control shifted to Qatar’s former Ambassador to Washington who is described as a close friend of leading US politicians. I am relaying this Friday morning report and hope to find more information to confirm the story. If true, this may mean the end of AlJazeera’s journalistic independence and current orientation. Was The Bush Administration behind it?”

Posted by: Bea | May 21 2007 13:58 utc | 5

Secret US Plot to Kill al-Sadr

The US Army tried to kill or capture Muqtada al-Sadr, the widely revered Shia cleric, after luring him to peace negotiations at a house in the holy city of Najaf, which it then attacked, according to a senior Iraqi government official.
The revelation of this extraordinary plot, which would probably have provoked an uprising by outraged Shia if it had succeeded, has left a legacy of bitter distrust in the mind of Mr Sadr for which the US and its allies in Iraq may still be paying. “I believe that particular incident made Muqtada lose any confidence or trust in the [US-led] coalition and made him really wild,” the Iraqi National Security Adviser Dr Mowaffaq Rubai’e told The Independent in an interview. It is not known who gave the orders for the attempt on Mr Sadr but it is one of a series of ill-considered and politically explosive US actions in Iraq since the invasion. In January this year a US helicopter assault team tried to kidnap two senior Iranian security officials on an official visit to the Iraqi President. Earlier examples of highly provocative actions carried out by the US with little thought for the consequences include the dissolution of the Iraqi army and the Baath party.

Posted by: Bea | May 21 2007 14:02 utc | 6

Another great post, Bernhard. The whole Washington Post article by Ann Tyson is irony in its fullest and saddest. The ignorance of the American military in believing Iraqis (especially around Sadr City) will succumb to Trojan horse tactics is beyond belief. Perhaps it is now nothing more than deadly game-playing, on all sides, to appease “the decider” and others of the elite in Washington while this unjust war on the Iraqi people continues with no end in sight. I am afraid the games in Sadr City and so many other towns will turn much more violent and deadly before this all ends. Can the elite work their invisible chain magic on the whole world in years to come? Is the French election more significant than we realize as r’giap has hinted to in earlier threads? Interesting times ahead for the whole world, and maybe sooner for the U.S. The people in hometown America are feeling squeezed like never before.
By the way, I wonder what Slothrop thinks when he reads articles such as what Uncle $cam (and now Bea) has noted in #1 “Secret Plot to kill Al-Sadr”. Will Sloth call this just more incompetence on the part of the U.S., just inaccurate reporting, or what?

Posted by: Rick | May 21 2007 14:31 utc | 7

Oops sorry all, I should have read the whole thread before posting… didn’t mean to duplicate. Just moving too fast today.

Posted by: Bea | May 21 2007 17:03 utc | 8

from the article..
a project to put protective barriers around a main Sadr City market. Iraqi police and contractors are now carrying out the project, which will take about three weeks to complete, said Lt. Col. David Oclander of the 82nd Airborne.
more walls.

Posted by: annie | May 21 2007 17:36 utc | 9

Great post. Channeling Billmon. Ha!

Posted by: Bob M. | May 22 2007 2:42 utc | 10

Iraq Makes Plans for Quick U.S. Pullout

Iraq’s military is drawing up plans to cope with any quick U.S. military pullout, the defense minister said Monday, as a senior American official warned that the Bush administration may reconsider its support if Iraqi leaders don’t make major reforms by fall.

But the U.S. has no plans to pull out.

Posted by: b | May 22 2007 5:57 utc | 11