Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 12, 2007
Rambling War Post

U.S. soldiers will now stay in Iraq on regular tours of 15 months and then will have 12 months at home. The original policy back in 2003 was 12 months deployment and 24 months home – 33% deployment time is now up to 56%. Over the years, that breaks all personal relations.

Not that I do care so much for U.S. soldiers’ personal relations, but pissed off GIs will vent their anger somewhere and the lengthened deployment time will lead inevitably to more killed Iraqis.

How does that happen you may ask. ACLU has a file of Iraqi claims of civilians killed by U.S. soldiers. As the NYT reports:

Recently, the Army disclosed roughly 500 claims to the American Civil Liberties Union in response to a Freedom of Information Act request. They are the first to be made public.

They represent only a small fraction of the claims filed. In all, the military has paid more than $32 million to Iraqi and Afghan civilians for noncombat-related killings, injuries and property damage, an Army spokeswoman said.

That number does not include some other payments made but claims are only accepted if the death or damage was definitely not combat related. Often claims are simply ignored:

“I know plenty of lawyers who did not pay any condolences payments at all,” said Mr. Tracy, who is now a legal consultant for the Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict. “There was no reason for it. It was clearly not combat, and the victim was clearly innocent, all the facts are there, witness statements, but they wouldn’t pay them.”

With deployment time going up, discipline will go down and more civilians will get killed for no reason at all.

As Juan Cole wrote this morning, the Iraqi parliament is falling apart. Several factions seem to be ready to skip out while lots of parliamentarians are living abroad anyway and are not available to vote. After today’s bombing within the parliament cafeteria, more members of parliament will stay away.

Who will now legislate the oil revenue sharing (90% to U.S. interests, 10% to Iraqis) law Bush and the Democrats in Congress are demanding Iraqis sign?

The bridge bombing in Baghdad today was hardly the job of one or two suicide bombers. The bridge is broken at two distinctive points and the extensive damage as visible in pictures looks much more like the result of experienced demolition engineers. More bridges will go down like this one.

Turkey’s military, which has a very strong position in the Turkish political structure, is demanding a free hand in Iraq:

"An operation into Iraq is necessary,” said Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, the head of Turkey’s powerful military. "The PKK has huge freedom of movement in Iraq … It has spread its roots in Iraq.”

Buyukanit is a hardliner – he will get his way or …

Meanwhile in Afghanistan bomb drops killed some 35 Taliban. Actually Taliban is the description of an ideology. These folks killed are first of all Pashtun tribes people who lost their share of power when the U.S. invaded their country. Now they want some power back and/or revenge for the death of their tribes-folks. To always and indifferent label the people of the biggest tribe in Afghanistan as Taliban is just like calling every Iraqi patriot or enraged citizen as "anti-Iraqi force." It is misleading and stupid.

Such propaganda labels end up being believed by the decision makers themselves. Which then leads to more wrong decisions that exacerberate the problems. On Afghanistan, some NATO members don’t believe in the U.S. propaganda (yet), others do. NATO may break over this, which is fine with me as the reason for NATO’s existence ceased to exist some 15 years ago anyway. Afghanistan is hardly near the North Atlantic.

As a bonus to this rambling war post: This picture by CentCom shows a place in Baghdad last weekend where people "call for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq."
There is a picture of the same place in Baghdad when Saddam’s statue was dragged down there by a U.S. salvage tank.

Compare the number of people at each event. What story do these pictures tell?

Comments

who’s behind the attack in parliament?
bomber inside green zone…

Posted by: annie | Apr 12 2007 22:03 utc | 1

As an Army brat, I cannot help but feel for the families of those soldiers. Sitting with the curtains drawn, so as not to see any staff car coming up the drive, not even allowing yourself to dread the knock on the door, for fear that might make it real. Month after month after month, only to have three more added when it seems as though they may stay sane through it all. Afraid to watch the news, because hearing that your Father’s base had been attacked and there where lots of casualties could cause that mental snap, even if the knock doesn’t come. Tet was like that for my family, with my Dad sitting in the middle of the biggest ammo dump in VN. But we knew he had a DEROS date that wouldn’t be extended, something to hold onto. These poor people can count on nothing from these vile cretins who got us into this mess. You can hate the war, as I did Viet Nam, and have every one since, and you can hate what soldiers do in any war, but do at least feel some compassion for what they and their families sacrifice. They also serve, who only sit and wait.
Sorry for the rant.

Posted by: Castaway | Apr 12 2007 22:33 utc | 2

as in the tet offensive – which was a psychological but not a military victory for the vietnamese – this incident today – the rupturing of the green zone & the bombing of the bridge – are its long term effect
what is revealed is the emptiness of the control of the empire – but it does not diminish the amount of carnage that empire creates & is creating
what the americans refuse to understand here is that the people of itaq have already made a long term decision in relation to them – they know who they must depend on – in the long term & it is neither tepresented by the new nietzsche – gen petraeus nor the beurecrats who bungle & burgle around the green zone

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 12 2007 22:38 utc | 3

but do at least feel some compassion for what they and their families sacrifice
i feel sorry for any child born into a family whose parent make the decision of following a corrupt government into war. i also feel sorry for the children of alcoholics. none the less, an alcoholic can make a choice not to drink, and a soldier can make a choice not to fight. it may land him/her in jail, the child still would not have access to their parents, but they would know they were safe, and their lives were not threatened. unlike the child in iraq who won’t know if their parent will make it home from work alive, if they have work. who walks past dead bodies coming home from school, if they still go to school. a child who can’t eat unless someone risks their life to go to the store. the difference of children born to an invader is the parents made the choice.

Posted by: annie | Apr 13 2007 0:28 utc | 4

I have three pictures up on my blog from April 9, 2004 – and it is the same place in Baghdad as the photos referenced in the post today. The crowds on that day were HUGE and there was no curfew, but there was a driving ban. People walked for miles to get the the demonstration, where they clearly showed that they thought bush, blair, and saddam were all cut from the same cloth.
http://dancewater.blogspot.com/2007/04/april-9-2004-protest-in-baghdad.html#links
Link to Photos

Posted by: Susan | Apr 13 2007 1:14 utc | 5

well, link didn’t work, so I will try again!
Link to my blog

Posted by: Susan | Apr 13 2007 1:16 utc | 6

I knew I would come here and find some people talking about the ACLU report. I hope to have some free time to do some research on these payments and denials, and write it up.
I feel way more sorry for the Iraqi civilians than any combatant.

Posted by: Susan | Apr 13 2007 1:18 utc | 7

Now let’s ramble over here a little…
Ukraine President Yushchenko rejects US anti-missile system – C/O Raw Story.

Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | Apr 13 2007 1:19 utc | 8

i feel sorry for any child born into a family whose parent make the decision of following a corrupt government into war Annie
Dear old Dad was drafted into WWII, and went through hell in Italy. He then got out, joined the National guard, and was called up and sent to Korea. Twice drafted, he stayed in. Choice doesn’t always enter into things, and it’s not nearly as simple as you make it out to be. Some people served a good government in a just cause, or serve a peacetime government that then enters into stupid wars. Once you are in, there is no gosh, I don’t like this one. Destroying your own life and that of your family doesn’t qualify as a choice.

Posted by: Castaway | Apr 13 2007 2:26 utc | 9

the people of itaq
ugh.

Posted by: slothrop | Apr 13 2007 3:06 utc | 10

Of course, the frustrations of the soldiers on the ground will keep rising, and random and senseless killing will increase.
But lets not forget that the organized slaughter that is going on, mostly through an almost totally unreported air-war, plus resource deprivation, dwarfs the effects of the hapless foot soldiers.

Posted by: Dick Durata | Apr 13 2007 3:43 utc | 11

Choices.
Sometimes you just can’t. There is can’t and there is can’t. One is different from the other.
Some battered spouses can’t leave the relationship.
Some can’t stop smoking (I was one, tried for 25 years before winning that one).
Some so-called choices just aren’t something that one can consider at that time.
It would never have occurred to me to NOT go into the Marine Corps when I was 17. There wasn’t a choice not to go.
Three years later, second tour in Viet Nam, I felt I didn’t have a choice but to desert. Pack up and hope I landed somewhere in Europe. That didn’t work out for me because the Marine Corps sent me back to the States early. Back to the States and discharged me before I could go AWOL.
Still, there are choices that really aren’t a choice for many people.
Suppose your parents are fire-breathing fundamentalists and have you sceered shitless to even look in your undies. You just can’t. Not until later, at best.
I empathize with all military people AND their families. I’m just weird I guess.
I know those young kids, 16, 17, and 18 years old when they got recruited, didn’t have the faintest idea of where they were headed. Did YOU, when you were that age?
It is pure serendipity as to where your path leads you at that age. And ends in death or scars or amputations for many. Yet many will be congratulating that soldier for the rest of their lives. “He/She fought for my freedom.” HaHa He/She didn’t have any options and hoped to come out of it more sober and get some education.
I don’t deserve any congratulations for my military service. It was something that I was programed to do. Didn’t have a choice. It wasn’t ME that made any choices then. It was the programming. I didn’t fight for freedom, or America, or even myself. It just worked out that way. Anybody who says it was different for them is more than likely fooling themselves. The myth makes it easier, if you are deaf and dumb, though. Doesn’t it?
So, what choices were you making for yourself when you were 17?

Posted by: Jake | Apr 13 2007 4:07 utc | 12

Damn, but it’s gettin’ drafty ’round here:
“The active army is about broken,” former Secretary of State Colin Powell, who also served as chairman of the Armed Forces Joint Chiefs of Staff under President George H.W. Bush 15 years ago, told Time magazine this week, while another highly decorated retired general who just returned from Iraq and Afghanistan described the situation in even more dire terms.
“The truth is, the U.S. Army is in serious trouble and any recovery will be years in the making and, as a result, the country is in a position of strategic peril,” ret. Gen. Barry McCaffrey, former head of the U.S. Southern Command, told the National Journal, elaborating on a much-cited memo he had written for his colleagues at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.
“My bottom line is that the Army is unraveling, and if we don’t expend significant national energy to reverse that trend, sometime in the next two years we will break the Army just like we did during Vietnam,” he added.
In an indication of the growing concern, both Time and the more elite-oriented Journal ran cover stories this week. They both concluded that the Army was rapidly approaching or had already reached “the breaking point.”

Adding to the readiness problem are shortages of equipment, such as tanks and Humvees, on U.S. bases where training takes place. Instead, as units are rotated out of Iraq, they leave their equipment behind for their replacements to use.
“On the equipment side of the equation, the Army is pretty much broken,” Tom McNaugher, an expert at the RAND Corporation, told the Journal.

“Today, anecdotal evidence of collapse is all around,” according to ret. Maj. Gen. Robert Scales, a former Rumsfeld adviser and a regular commentator on CNN, who previously was optimistic about the war and its impact on the Army.
“The Army’s collapse after Vietnam was presaged by a desertion of mid-grade officers (captains) and noncommissioned officers… Most left because they and their families were tired and didn’t want to serve in units unprepared for war.”
“If we lose our sergeants and captains, the Army breaks again. It’s just that simple. That’s why these soldiers are the canaries in the readiness coal mine,” he told the Washington Times last week. “And… if you look closely, you will see that these canaries are fleeing their cages in frightening numbers.”
Indeed, the Army is currently short about 3,000 mid-career officers, a number that will be impossible to make up as the army expands over the next five years – a situation that Scales called “pretty much irreversible.”
According to a report in the Boston Globe Wednesday, graduates from the military’s officer training academy at West Point are choosing to leave active duty at the highest rate in more than three decades – “a sign to many specialists,” the Globe said, “that repeated tours in Iraq are prematurely driving out some of the Army’s top young officers.”
Breaking the Army
I assumed, Georgie planned on waiting til JackAss Party took over to let them impose the draft, but pressure seems to be building. Y’all know anyone who wants to die for l’il Georgie? Gonna take them pulling off another Serious Stunt to do it. Stay Tuned, kids…

Posted by: jj | Apr 13 2007 4:33 utc | 13

It wasn’t ME that made any choices then. It was the programming.
from the sound of jj’s post the soldiers who are old enough to make the choice are choosing to say no. which proves it can be done.
There is can’t and there is can’t.
depending on who is saying/thinking it.
Once you are in, there is no gosh, I don’t like this one. Destroying your own life and that of your family doesn’t qualify as a choice.
one persons destroyed life is another’s saved. in reality it IS how you perceive it. some people might consider destroying iraq as ‘not qualifying as a choice’
jj’s post, some people may see this is a bad thing. the way i look at it, if it takes breaking the army to get us off the path of global domination, then it needs to be broken. i can’t break it. our leaders can break it, the ‘enemy’ can break it, or our own soldiers can break it by choosing not to serve.

Posted by: annie | Apr 13 2007 5:02 utc | 14

Damn easy to be moralistic about other peoples lives.

Posted by: jj | Apr 13 2007 5:06 utc | 15

regardless of the morality of the soldiers’ choices for themselves and their families, the longer they stay in Iraq, the more chances they have to get PTSD, to have a political awakening, to become domestic terrorists, to have the violence thoroughly programmed into them, and to come to America and turn that chaos inward and maybe outward.
Some people think this is a good thing. Only the soldiers can stop the war, they say. Or lead the revolution.
Me? I remember this. Would rather not have that kind of revolution.

Posted by: Rowan | Apr 13 2007 5:12 utc | 16

Since this is an admittedly rambling post, a bit of
background on Israeli-Kurdish cooperation may not be out
of place. Laura Rozen’s article in Mother Jones gives names, and
seems to me to be a first rate bit of reporting.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Apr 13 2007 5:42 utc | 17

I’d look around and there would be something strange, the sky often had sort of cloudy gray yellow color. There was a muddy road or path ahead, it had ruts in it filled with water, it was lined with odd unfamiliar foliage. I would look down at my arm and see that I had a uniform on, then to my hand, which was carrying some kind weapon — then it would all add up, and the panic would set in. I was in a war again. Shit. How’d this happen, how many times I’d told myself never ever again. Then I’d wake up, usually in a cold sweat.
Had this same dream a lot of times for over 20 years.
I pity these poor fuckers. They’re living my nightmare.

Posted by: anna missed | Apr 13 2007 6:12 utc | 18

i pity them too. and i didn’t mean to sound moralistic when i wrote soldiers who are old enough to make the choice are choosing to say no. and of course i meant ‘some’ soldiers.
i think many kids who make those choices as teenagers ARE either programmed or often just too young to make those kinds of decisions. then i consider kids who have this idealised notion of what it means to defend their country and wake up one day and find themselves thinking “what the hell am i doing here”.
we all only have the truth that is true for us. no one else inhabits our mind.
Damn easy to be moralistic about other peoples lives.
ultimately one judges oneself and i don’t think it is so easy to avoid being moralistic when you look within.

Posted by: annie | Apr 13 2007 6:38 utc | 19

btw, i wanted to thank you susan for the link to your blog w/connecting links to iraqi blogs. i didn’t realize you were dancewater.

Posted by: annie | Apr 13 2007 6:43 utc | 20

I want to emphasize the shallowness of most young soldiers – they are very young, just kids, but they hold some of the worlds deadliest weapons in their hands. Sheeeit. Still, with enough time and experience some of them can have an awakening. Some seem to. I read some of them and exult.
Maybe these longer tours in Iraq will have the effect of allowing more time for transformation of the soldiers. That would be a remarkable blessing, wouldn’t it? Otherwise, these guys will come home and live up and down your block, have lots of personal weapons, and if there ever is massive civil disobedience in the streets – guess whose side they will be on?
I think America must have a cultural change before anything gets appreciably better. That means the K-Mart shoppers must want what I want. So, I work to befriend and educate them. It is slow going. But, NOTHING is going to change for the better unless they want it.
I would like to see large-scale civil disobedience and lots of neighborhood-level organizing.

Posted by: Jake | Apr 13 2007 7:04 utc | 21

Being moralistic cuts both ways. Ellsberg is running around encouraging others to release documents as he did. Sounds great, and I used to think he was a Big Hero, all his self-righteousness, which is considerable, was well-justified. There’s only one catch. While I still think he’s a hero & what he did was exemplary, my judgement was tempered a bit years later when I found out that an anti-war Heiress had fallen in love w/him. Whatever legal consequences he risked, losing his career meant nothing since if he followed her urgings he’d never have to work again anyway. That’s a considerably smaller risk than career civil servants today would face. Not only jail, but career & pension, at a time in their lives when such could be devastating.

Posted by: jj | Apr 13 2007 7:11 utc | 22

I want to emphasize the shallowness of most young soldiers – they are very young, just kids, but they hold some of the worlds deadliest weapons in their hands. Sheeeit. Still, with enough time and experience some of them can have an awakening. Some seem to. I read some of them and exult.
Maybe these longer tours in Iraq will have the effect of allowing more time for transformation of the soldiers. That would be a remarkable blessing, wouldn’t it? Otherwise, these guys will come home and live up and down your block, have lots of personal weapons, and if there ever is massive civil disobedience in the streets – guess whose side they will be on?
I think America must have a cultural change before anything gets appreciably better. That means the K-Mart shoppers must want what I want. So, I work to befriend and educate them. It is slow going. But, NOTHING is going to change for the better unless they want it.
I would like to see large-scale civil disobedience and lots of neighborhood-level organizing.

Posted by: Jake | Apr 13 2007 7:16 utc | 23

Some WaPo reporter with a quite personal account of the parliament bombing. This is the daily life for Iraqis: In an Instant, a Junkyard of Humanity

Saad helped me up. The smoke was as thick as giant rain clouds. It was difficult to breathe. Our mouths and noses filled with dust. I felt like I was walking through one of Iraq’s famous sandstorms. Dust covered the carpeting, too, like snow. Hundreds of shoe imprints pointed toward the exit — and illustrated the chaos.
I thought: Are we going the right way? Could there be another bomb?
We walked through the apocalyptic landscape, silent save for the cries of ghostly, dust-covered figures searching for friends and colleagues. I didn’t know it then, but my left eardrum had been perforated. At the bottom of a staircase, an old man writhed in pain. He had somehow worked his way down the steps. He had two more to go, but he seemed to have given up. We didn’t stop.

Posted by: b | Apr 13 2007 7:16 utc | 24

Weird!

Posted by: Jake | Apr 13 2007 7:18 utc | 25

“It’s all a curse on us, Ayad. It’s because of the stealing, the corruption.”
“I hope this doesn’t slow things down here,” said the official, who did not want his name used because he is not authorized to speak to journalists. “These are the people we need to make this experiment work.”

from b’s link.. something about this seems… odd

Posted by: annie | Apr 13 2007 8:02 utc | 26

Funny, in its way. The reporter describes being questioned by a soldier:
“Where were you?” he wanted to know. I told him.
(He had been present in the blast, but came through intact.)
“The Lord is looking after you, brother,” he said, and walked away.
Tet moment indeed. The “surge” has publicly failed.

Posted by: Gaianne | Apr 13 2007 8:13 utc | 27

jj–
It is fine to say they were “just following orders,” except that that cuts very little ice. None with me. If they want my sympathy, they should just STOP. If they cannot do that, they should meet the fate they have laid for themselves without complaint.
I am tired of hearing that murder is a hard gig. Yeah, and so? What did they THINK it was?

Posted by: Gaianne | Apr 13 2007 8:24 utc | 28

ICRC report on Iraq:

Both the quantity and quality of drinking water in Iraq remain insufficient despite limited improvements in some areas, mainly in the south. Water is often contaminated owing to the poor repair of sewage and water-supply networks and the discharge of untreated sewage into rivers, which are the main source of drinking water. Electricity and fuel shortages and the poor maintenance of infrastructure mean that there is no regular and reliable supply of clean water and that sewage is often not properly disposed of.

Posted by: b | Apr 13 2007 12:58 utc | 29

in my father’s case, at 21, going on a dangerous and thrilling adventure for the glory and honour of defending king and country with the full knowledge that dog was on his side or boring low wage factory work
by the time he figured he’d been played, he was already gutting 16 year olds in Caen, watching the steam and their life ebb into the cool morning air

Posted by: jcairo | Apr 13 2007 13:01 utc | 30

Good read: Pepe Escobar on the Baghdad gulag.
And Badger has a very interesting observation about Al Qaida’s claim to yesterday’s parliament bombing.

Posted by: Alamet | Apr 13 2007 23:32 utc | 31

Here we go – as expected, the small bases the U.S. has set up in Baghdad are the week points that will be attacked: 3 U.S. Soldiers Killed, 8 Wounded in Patrol Base Attack

Two soldiers died and seven were wounded when their patrol base was attacked south of the Iraqi capital, a military statement said.
Two Iraqi interpreters — working for the U.S. military — also were killed in the attack, the statement said.
“A quick reaction force was sent to the scene along with attack aviation helicopters, which quickly repelled the attack,” the statement said.

The loss of the two interpreters is very serious. That may well have been all the interpreter capacity the U.S. has at that base.
Now this base and others will get more fortification. This will lead to resentment in the neighborhood and further attacks. It is a spiral that ends with U.S. bombers flattening the neighborhoods around the bases and overrun bases with anyone inside slaughtered.

Posted by: b | Apr 14 2007 6:46 utc | 32

Excessive Force By Marines Alleged – Afghan Report on Killings of Civilians Is Called Consistent With U.S. Findings

A platoon of elite Marine Special Operations troops reacted with “excessive force” after an ambush in Afghanistan last month, opening fire on pedestrians and civilian vehicles along a 10-mile stretch of road and killing 12 people — including a 4-year-old girl, a 1-year-old boy and three elderly villagers — an investigation by an Afghan human rights commission alleges.
The investigation, based on dozens of eyewitness interviews, found that Marines in a convoy of Humvees continued shooting at at least six locations along the road, miles beyond the site where they were ambushed by a suicide bomber in a van. They fired at stationary vehicles, passersby and others who were “exclusively civilian in nature” and had made “no kind of provocative or threatening behavior,” according to a draft report of the investigation obtained by The Washington Post.

Posted by: b | Apr 14 2007 6:54 utc | 33

b #32,
Anybody paying attention to the 4GW folks (esp. Bill Lind) would understand that Patraeaus’s prescription necessarily means more casualties, probably many, many more casualties. You can’t go one on one with an insurgency — and compete on their level without taking an equal hit. What’s also not acknowledged is that the “force protection” edict is not compatible with 4GW counterinsurgency. Everybody is gonna bleed a whole lot more for George Bush’s vanity.

Posted by: anna missed | Apr 14 2007 7:43 utc | 34

Army Knew of Letter on Shooting Refugees
Korean War Document Was Omitted From Report on No Gun Ri

… More than a dozen documents — in which high-ranking U.S. officers tell troops that refugees are “fair game,” for example, and order them to “shoot all refugees coming across river” — were found by the AP in the investigators’ own archived files after the 2001 inquiry. None of those documents was disclosed in the Army’s 300-page public report.

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 14 2007 11:54 utc | 35

What Gaianne@28 said.

Posted by: ran | Apr 14 2007 13:25 utc | 36

Double standards, then and now … Malmedy Massacre Trial and the shooting of prisoners …

… Another double standard that bothered Everett was that there had been many incidents in which American soldiers were not put on trial for killing German Prisoners of War, but the defense was not allowed to mention this. Any of the accused men who inadvertently said anything about American soldiers breaking the rules of the Geneva Convention were promptly silenced and these comments were stricken from the record.
General Sepp Dietrich was a colorful character, much like General George S. Patton, who was his equivalent in rank. Patton’s Army was accused of several incidents in which German prisoners of war were shot, which he admitted in his autobiography. Patton wrote the following entry in his diary on 4 January 1945:
“The Eleventh Armored is very green and took unnecessary losses to no effect. There were also some unfortunate incidents in the shooting of prisoners. I hope we can conceal this.”
In another incident involving the shooting of German and Italian Prisoners of War, an American captain was acquitted on the grounds that he had been following the orders of General Patton, who had discouraged American troops from taking prisoners during the landing of the US Seventh Army in Sicily.
Ironically, an incident in which Americans executed German prisoners happened within half a mile of the Dachau courtroom. On April 29, 1945, the day that the SS surrendered the camp at Dachau, American soldiers of the 45th Thunderbird Division of the US Seventh Army lined up surrendered Waffen-SS soldiers against a wall and machine-gunned them down in the SS Training Camp, next to the concentration camp. This was followed by a second incident, on the same day, which happened at a spot very near the courtroom: the killing of SS guards at the Dachau concentration camp after they came down from their guard tower and surrendered with their hands in the air.
A third execution of German soldiers who had surrendered on April 29th, known as the Webling Incident happened in the village of Webling on the outskirts of of the town of Dachau. American soldiers of the 222nd Regiment of the 42nd Rainbow Division executed soldiers of the German Home Guard after they had surrendered. The Home Guard consisted of young boys and old men who were forced into service in the last desperate days of the war to defend their cities and towns.
After an investigation by the US Army resulted in the court martial of the soldiers involved in these killings, General George S. Patton tore up the papers and tossed them in the wastebasket. Col. Howard A. Buechner, the American medical officer who was there when Waffen-SS soldiers were executed during the liberation of Dachau, wrote in his book The Hour of the Avenger, regarding the court martial of soldiers in the 45th Thunderbird Division:
“Public outrage would certainly have opposed the prosecution of American heroes for eliminating a group of sadists who so richly deserved to die.”
According to World War II historian, Stephan E. Ambrose, the author of the best-selling book, “Citizen Soldiers,” General Maxwell Taylor instructed the men of the 101st Airborne Division to take no prisoners during the Normandy invasion, which they participated in after parachuting into France. Ambrose was a consultant for the HBO TV series called “Band of Brothers,” which showed soldiers of the 101st Airborne shooting German Prisoners of War. American audiences cheered when German POWs were gunned down by American soldiers in the Spielberg movie “Saving Private Ryan.”

Blatant mendacious hypocricy mixed with generic, entrenched and habitually re-inforced, self-righteous, delusional myths about us always wearing the cowboys ‘white hats’, the eternal ‘Good Guys’ …

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 14 2007 14:11 utc | 37

“surge” getting permanent:

Odierno said that in military terms, the troop buildup was considered a “surge,” or temporary increase in forces. But some in the military also have called the troop increase a “plus-up,” signifying a more permanent escalation of force levels. Odierno said he and Petraeus would have to decide this summer whether to make the buildup more permanent.
“All along, we defined it as a surge,” he said. “Could that change later on? Maybe. To a plus-up? Maybe. That’s what we’ll have to decide in July or August when we make our determination.”

Hmm – the Generals decide – I thought the civil command decides such things.
Also this sounds to me that there still will be a lack of forces:

Three of the five extra U.S. brigades ordered to Baghdad in January are in place, and Odierno said the other two combat brigades would be in place in June. Although President Bush has ordered those brigades to secure Baghdad, Odierno said he would need to decide precisely where to send them.
Putting them inside the city would allow the U.S. to increase combat outposts in Baghdad neighborhoods and potentially improve residents’ sense of safety. But placing the units outside Baghdad might help intercept car bombs and Al Qaeda insurgents, he said.

So it’s either-or but Odierno can’t do both.
Earlier he also talks about an additional aviation brigade. Never heard of that before, so what is up with that. Where is it supposed to go?

Posted by: b | Apr 14 2007 14:15 utc | 38

b-
Seems the same to me – this particular army doesn’t have men or materiel to stay at surge levels longer than 1 1/2 yrs, maybe 2. Troops will also be needed in south to replace departing Brits, assuming Brits actually depart.
Which is why Gates announcement this week of 15mos out, 12 mos home doesn’t seem to mean much, except for troops already in Iraq or heading there, who should now expect to stay up to 15 mos. 15 + 12 = 2 1/4 yrs. In other words, 12 mos home guarantee doesn’t have much meansing, because it looks inevitable anyway.
Is there any way that US can realistically contemplate maintaining the present force levels in Iraq longer than 2 1/4 yrs? If not, then troops won’t be needed on 15/12 rotations beyond 2 1/4 yrs. Unless the plan envisions keeping forces at whatever is the highest possible, albeit dwindling, level, indefinitely. To what end?
Another factor. There will be a national US election in a little more than 1 1/2 yrs. Without gross election tampering, that should result in quicker withdrawal. Ojala!
US may try to keep a sizeable contingent in Iraq/ME for years, but nothing like the present levels. And Iraqi response will have much to say about whether it happens.

Posted by: small coke | Apr 14 2007 15:22 utc | 39

hugs to you, anna missed. and to those who came before and come after you…whichever side of a war they were on.
one of the fundamental lessons in life, imo, is that life is composed of suffering — not all of life is suffering, but no human escapes suffering because we love and we fear and we die. and sometimes we suffer because of our mistaken beliefs. sometimes we suffer because of the beliefs of others.
war causes disportionate suffering on the poor in this world, no matter which side of a war they are on. since the U.S. has tried to do away with most all sorts of compassionate response to the suffering of its citizens, other than a “voluntary” military, I cannot sit in judgement of anyone who sees the military as their only way to survive…or die trying.
soldiers are fed propaganda…this is basic. yeah, some soon realize, but for some, it is too important to their survival to not realize they are pawns. Yet, yes, we all must accept responsibility for our actions, if not at the time, then after the fact — as members of the human community. this also applies to suicide bombers and CEOS. some experience consequences and some don’t — and this, too, is part of the suffering of the world.
that’s only one “noble truth” — but one that seems to continue throughout human history.
until people of the world see that they are brothers and sisters, in spite of their beliefs in one god or another or no god — wars will be fought by and wrought upon the poor more than any other segment of the world’s population.
I don’t know how to make greed and fear less of a force as long as govts exist that use greed and fear to maintain power…and at what level, at what number of people in which society exists does this fear and greed cease to be more important? at the level of the family, these same issues are played out over and over in history and literature. the only constraint against them is a majority of a community that refuses to accept such actions. — and even then these constraints are often after the deed.
Suffering, indeed.

Posted by: fauxreal | Apr 14 2007 16:58 utc | 40

All wars are civil wars … for all men are brothers.
We are but pawns in what seems an eternal replay of, ‘Great Games’.

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 15 2007 2:12 utc | 41

U.S. Holds 18,000 Detainees in Iraq

In the past month, as a new security crackdown in Baghdad began, U.S. forces arrested another 1,000 Iraqis, bringing to 18,000 the number of detainees jailed in two U.S.-run facilities in that country.

Noah Feldman, a New York University law professor who helped draft the Iraqi constitution, asked, “Pursuant to what law are we holding people who are not turned over to Iraqi courts?” Because they are not considered prisoners of war, he said, the United States must consider them in the “enemy combatant” category used to justify holding detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch, said that under Maliki’s declared martial law, it is up to the Iraqi government to deal with the detainees. “We don’t see any legal authority for the U.S. to detain Iraqis or judge them under some tribunal system,” she said. “If the U.S. exercises that power it’s another symbol of occupation and not an obligation many in the military want to assume.”

Posted by: b | Apr 15 2007 8:06 utc | 42

Divided Iraq has two spy agencies
Reading the piece it occurs that one of the intelligence services is completly CIA, while the otherone is genuine Iraqi

BAGHDAD — Suspicious of Iraq’s CIA-funded national intelligence agency, members of the Iraqi government have erected a “shadow” secret service that critics say is driven by a Shiite Muslim agenda and has left the country with dueling spy agencies.
The minister of state for national security, a Shiite named Sherwan Waili, has built a spy service boasting an estimated 1,200 intelligence agents out of a second-tier ministry with a minimal staff and meager budget, Western officials say.

Shiite officials say the minister is providing information on Al Qaeda and former members of Saddam Hussein’s Baath Party that isn’t being supplied by the Iraqi National Intelligence Service, or INIS, Iraq’s primary spy service.
The INIS was established in the spring of 2004 by the U.S.-led provisional authority and has been under the command of Gen. Mohammed Shahwani, a Sunni Arab involved in a CIA-backed coup plot against Hussein a decade ago. For the last three years, the agency has been funded by the CIA, U.S. military and Iraqi officials say.

The Shiite drive to create the parallel secret service can be traced to the spring of 2005, when the United States, mindful of Shiite politicians’ close ties to Iran, fended off then-Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari’s effort to take charge of the INIS.

Shahwani’s service “is funded completely by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, not by the Iraqi government,” a U.S. military official said on condition of anonymity. “U.S. funding for the INIS amounts to $3 billion over a three-year period that started in 2004.”

Shahwani’s most recent controversy involves accusations that his men kidnapped an Iranian diplomat in February in Baghdad. Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said four of Shahwani’s agents were involved in the kidnapping and had been arrested.
Shahwani told The Times that the four detained men were his agents, but that they had been in the area on another mission at the time the Iranian diplomat went missing. Shahwani also accused the Iranians of inventing the story of the kidnapping so they could abduct one of his men who had been spying on their diplomat. The freed Iranian diplomat has said he was abducted by an Iraqi security force and then tortured by the CIA.

sure …

Posted by: b | Apr 15 2007 10:18 utc | 43

I did not know that the British had forces in Baghdad. Is there so many of them that they crash into one another on special missions?

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Apr 15 2007 12:01 utc | 44

Yes, it’s interesting to note that the two things to be secured/established after the invasion were security of the oil wells and direct control of the Mukhabarat.
What ‘soveriegnity’ is there when a foriegn Intelligence service (the CIA) funds and direct manages your (Iraqi) national intelligence service to the exclusion of the direction of the government (puppets) of the day ?
Perhaps the Korean CIA (KCIA) was a good model …

Posted by: Outraged | Apr 15 2007 14:39 utc | 45

many who have visited Darfur have expressed the opinion that the reality there is not the clear-cut “choice between good & evil” as framed by the media with many progresives, liberals, NGO’s etc willingly in tow.
the media “picture” certainly looks like it could be a trailer for the standard Hollywood setting where the good guys ultimately overcome the evil enemy. And we all get our much-needed dose of that increasingly elusive quantity — moral-superioirity.
but its not the moral-superiority thats killing us. Its the need to re-affirm it.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Apr 15 2007 15:49 utc | 46

I said in my piece that the bridge bombing is unlikely to be by a suicide bomber. Some expert agrees:

So far this week there have been two attacks on bridges across the Tigris within the city. Such operations require a lot of planning and access to the bridge for an extended period of time. The story that a truck bomb knocked that great big bridge down lacks credibility for me. I know how to knock down bridges and an un-tamped surface blast is unlikely to do it on a bridge that size.

I also saw reports of US helos shooting rockets at the first bridge. That might well be, but still I think such would not be enough to cause such damage. This was more of a deliberate well prepared ground operation.
As of the second attempt on a bridge IMHO – not deliberate and serious – copy cat action. The real stuff is very deliberate and slow.

Posted by: b | Apr 15 2007 20:00 utc | 47

Meanwhile, dozens of Iraqi policemen demonstrated in front of their Baghdad station Sunday, accusing U.S. forces of treating them like “animals” and “slaves.”
The protest took place at Rashad station in Baghdad’s eastern neighborhood of Mashtal.
Officers chanted “No, no to America! Get out occupiers!” while U.S. troops in two humvees and a Bradley fighting vehicle watched from a distance.

Baghdad bombs kill 45; 3 U.S. troops die

Posted by: b | Apr 15 2007 20:05 utc | 48