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February 1, 2007
OT 07-012
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next time you need some ammo while arguing with right wing friends and neighbors about the right of Congress to determine military action, use these quotes of what republican senators said about this very thing when they forced the removal of US forces from Somalia when Clenis was the prez. Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 1 2007 10:59 utc | 3 dan of steele, Posted by: Rick | Feb 1 2007 12:51 utc | 4 don’t get me wrong Rick, Clinton would have eventually invaded Iraq just like w did. He is by no means a saint. Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 1 2007 13:10 utc | 5 I don’t recall seeing a link to this here before, so I am posting.
I am not particularly interested in protecting the Democrats from assuming their share of responsibility, but I AM invested in getting Americans to face the enormity of their government’s crimes against humanity and trying in whatever fashion to introduce some kind of educational, legal, political, and any other measures that could prevent this from ever happening again in the future. And in that sense, I applaud Soros for saying aloud what was crying out to be said. Posted by: Bea | Feb 1 2007 13:28 utc | 6 The only good I see here is that USA political scene is cracking and I smell political crises. It’s about time to see this Potemkin’s idyllic village of “free democracy” fall down. Posted by: vbo | Feb 1 2007 13:38 utc | 7 dan of steele, Posted by: Rick | Feb 1 2007 13:43 utc | 8 Rick Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 1 2007 15:58 utc | 9 not only have efforts to assemble peacekeepers for propping up the puppet – sorry, transitional – government in somalia largely failed, it sounds like that govt may be losing its own troops
and it sounds like the earlier stories about captured u.s. soldiers indeed has legs
how long before that story breaks in the capitalist – whoops! corporate – media? you’d think it grab a lot of eyeballs, eh? start people asking WTF is going on… we thought you said the u.s. wasn’t involved… yea, right. Posted by: b real | Feb 1 2007 16:05 utc | 10 #8 Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 1 2007 17:09 utc | 11 The retired Air Force general’s views are unfortunately shared by a great many people. I would add in contrast, a sign I saw at the peace march in Washington on Saturday, Posted by: mistah charley | Feb 1 2007 17:16 utc | 12 Dan of Steele, Posted by: Rick | Feb 1 2007 17:40 utc | 13 Hillary also had a statement a couple years ago, well after the quagmire was established, where she said that even knowing what she knew then (no WMDs, indefinite stay in Iraq) she still would have voted for the war authorization. Posted by: Rowan | Feb 1 2007 17:55 utc | 14 Bernhard Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 1 2007 18:36 utc | 15 more bad grades at DHS Posted by: b real | Feb 1 2007 20:36 utc | 16 Just listened to Norah Jones’ new CD and found this song. It’s quite nice, and timely at this particular moment, I think.
Posted by: Bea | Feb 2 2007 2:42 utc | 17 has anyone been keeping up on what’s going on in the philippines? i haven’t been following it, but this news sounds promising yet hauntingly familiar
an article from last may, by james petras & robin eastman-abaya
and a rpt i’ve already linked to a couple times recently, but which is relevant
Posted by: b real | Feb 2 2007 5:41 utc | 18 Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study
@b-real – 10 – Somalia:
Here is another example of a bill which sounds good at first blush but has enormous potential for misuse. Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 2 2007 9:55 utc | 22 b- before i went to sleep last night, i saw a longer reuters article on yahoo reporting that sheikh sharif sheikh ahmed had been released and was likely headed to yemen. i thought the same thing – what kind of deal was worked out? ahmed being able to go safely out of the country was one of the demands. and ahmed was quoted as saying that he could not answer any other questions at that point. the timestamp on the article was 9:30 am thursday morning, which seemed a bit strange. the article is no longer avail at reuters, but i did find a copy here — Somali Islamist leader out of Kenyan custody
but there’s no further details & the article itself is weird, contradictory at times, labeling ahmed a moderate leader in one paragraph & an extremist in another, and it’s confusing. it states
why would a DoD official speak anon on denying missing troops?
so i’m not sure what to make of this right now. was the al-khaleej the only source reporting on the ahmed’s conditons in his meetings w/ the u.s.? it’s tough to dig very deep given the language barrier, for one. so will have to wait for more english-language reportage, commentary, & analyses. Posted by: b real | Feb 2 2007 16:22 utc | 23 b real #18. great post, i recommend the links. from the pdf @pg 18 Posted by: annie | Feb 2 2007 17:27 utc | 24 Selections from “Thirty -six sure-fire signs that your empire is crumbling”:
Posted by: catlady | Feb 2 2007 19:48 utc | 25 b- all you have to do is put out the hat. we probably can’t replace an IT salary, but i’d be willing to bet this community can help sustain operating expenses each year. Posted by: b real | Feb 2 2007 21:58 utc | 28 b, Posted by: citizen | Feb 2 2007 22:27 utc | 29 Bernhard, Posted by: Rick | Feb 2 2007 23:27 utc | 30 b Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 3 2007 3:09 utc | 31 VOA is reporting that the UN is likely going to take over responsibility for peacekeeping forces into somalia
should be interesting, b/c as one u.s. specialist in somalia pointed out several years back, in 1992 “events in Somalia nearly destroyed the credibility of UN peacekeeping.” Posted by: b real | Feb 3 2007 4:59 utc | 33 RITMO: Border Policy’s Success Strains Resources
Barney the purple dinosaur Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 3 2007 17:23 utc | 35 dan, nice. this meshes perfectly w/my sat morning slow brain. Posted by: annie | Feb 3 2007 18:56 utc | 36 Bernhard, Please put up a donate button on Moon of Alabama’s home page Posted by: annie | Feb 3 2007 19:31 utc | 37 In Washington, Contractors Take on Biggest Role Ever
Frank Rich (liberated): Why Dick Cheney Cracked Up
timeline (pdf)- good one From the moonie times…
I have sd it before, these fucks don’t get fired no matter how much they fuck up, they get moved laterally. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 4 2007 16:11 utc | 40 CSM: What ‘Israel’s right to exist’ means to Palestinians
– Recommended I recall one of b’s guests from the new year’s gathering reporting a comet on the plane ride back. I don’t quite imagine this is the same one, but nonetheless its a sweet picture. Posted by: citizen | Feb 4 2007 21:34 utc | 42 b, Posted by: Bea | Feb 5 2007 2:41 utc | 43 |
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