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February 26, 2007
Hersh – Some Rough Thoughts

Just a few rough thoughts, as I am a bit busy.

1.  Seymour Hersh in his latest piece writes:

Iran-Contra was the subject of an informal “lessons learned” discussion two years ago among veterans of the scandal. Abrams led the discussion. One conclusion was that even though the program was eventually exposed, it had been possible to execute it without telling Congress. As to what the experience taught them, in terms of future covert operations, the participants found: “One, you can’t trust our friends. Two, the C.I.A. has got to be totally out of it. Three, you can’t trust the uniformed military, and four, it’s got to be run out of the Vice-President’s office”—a reference to Cheney’s role, the former senior intelligence official said.

If you can’t trust your friends, cannot include the CIA and can’t trust the uniformed military, who is left to do the action? As money is not a limit could this be something that starts with black and ends with water?

2. Hersh also did interview the Shia leader in Lebanon, Nasrallah. It is interesting how aware he is of the real plans:

Nasrallah said he believed that America also wanted to bring about the partition of Lebanon and of Syria. In Syria, he said, the result would be to push the country “into chaos and internal battles like in Iraq.” In Lebanon, “There will be a Sunni state, an Alawi state, a Christian state, and a Druze state.” But, he said, “I do not know if there will be a Shiite state.” Nasrallah told me that he suspected that one aim of the Israeli bombing of Lebanon last summer was “the destruction of Shiite areas and the displacement of Shiites from Lebanon. The idea was to have the Shiites of Lebanon and Syria flee to southern Iraq,” which is dominated by Shiites. “I am not sure, but I smell this,” he told me.

Partition would leave Israel surrounded by “small tranquil states,” he said. “I can assure you that the Saudi kingdom will also be divided, and the issue will reach to North African states. There will be small ethnic and confessional states,” he said. “In other words, Israel will be the most important and the strongest state in a region that has been partitioned into ethnic and confessional states that are in agreement with each other. This is the new Middle East.

Nasrallah is likely referring to the map neocon Ralph Peters launched last year in the Armed Forces Journal. We know that this map was even shown at NATO meetings. Some background is here.

If Nasrallah sees this, the Saudis and the Turks, who both lose in these plans, should see this too. But do they?

3. Who, what, in the end, is behind all of this? I am not sure, but Bush senior gives his son a likely answer:

One day during that holiday, according to friends of the family, 43 asked his father, "What’s a neocon?"

"Do you want names, or a description?" answered 41.

"Description."

"Well," said the former president of the United States, "I’ll give it to you in one word: Israel."

Comments

I think that MAD is the only option for USA/ISRAEL that is on the cards. And it is not because of Baker/Hamilton. They lost. Expect big negotiations coming out of Londo tomorrow.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Feb 26 2007 20:59 utc | 1

on a related note, kagro x at dkos wrote today about cheney and his views on iran contra and their significance for the coming constitutional showdown. in a nutshell, these are cheney’s words on iran contra:

Judgments about the Iran-Contra Affair ultimately must rest upon one’s views about the proper roles of Congress and the President in foreign policy. … [T]hroughout the Nation’s history, Congress has accepted substantial exercises of Presidential power — in the conduct of diplomacy, the use of force and covert action — which had no basis in statute and only a general basis in the Constitution itself. … [M]uch of what President Reagan did in his actions toward Nicaragua and Iran were constitutionally protected exercises of inherent Presidential powers. … [T]he power of the purse … is not and was never intended to be a license for Congress to usurp Presidential powers and functions.

Posted by: conchita | Feb 26 2007 22:44 utc | 2

GREAT WORK B…
On a yet, even more ridiculously mad note, Cheney asks Musharraf to fight al-Qaida

Underscoring growing alarm in the West at how militants have regained ground in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Vice President Dick Cheney on Monday sought Pakistani aid to help counter al-Qaida’s efforts to regroup, officials said.
However, President Gen. Pervez Musharraf insisted his forces have already “done the maximum” possible against extremists in their territory — and insisted that other allies also shoulder responsibility in the U.S.-led war on terrorism.

You just have to love the hubris in this request.
The US broke Afghanistan, now Pakistan is supposed to pick up the pieces on its border?
Cheney got a tersely polite “Thanks, but no thanks” from Musharraf.
So what’s the game plan now??
Perhaps, there are some truth to the rumor of the Dick suffering from “pump-head syndrome?” (Medically known as “post-perfusion syndrome”)?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 27 2007 0:15 utc | 3

The problem with that neo-con map is that our allies Turkey and Pakistan, both of them two of the military strongest states in the region (and don’t forget, Pakistan has nukes), would go to war to prevent the scenario outlined in the map from befalling their respective countries.

Posted by: Loveandlight | Feb 27 2007 1:33 utc | 4

okay, that’s worthy of an indictment right there

As to what the experience taught them, in terms of future covert operations, the participants found: “One, you can’t trust our friends. Two, the C.I.A. has got to be totally out of it. Three, you can’t trust the uniformed military, and four, it’s got to be run out of the Vice-President’s office”—a reference to Cheney’s role

no. it’s a reference to bushdaddy’s role in iran-contra & the fact that he was able to get away w/ running the parallel govt from the veep’s office. release #41’s papers. bring the whole lot of them into the docks.
and what’s up w/ hersch writing “Two decades ago, the Reagan Administration attempted to fund the Nicaraguan contras illegally, with the help of secret arms sales to Iran.” attempted to?
and this caught my eye too: “There are many, many pots of black money, scattered in many places and used all over the world on a variety of missions.” typically, this money has been laundered & stashed in offshore havens & unregulated banks. in this age of ‘transnational terrorist networks’, what are the odds of getting non-u.s. prosecutors to start going after these “pots of black money” when it’s used to fund missions that actually terrorize citizenry in pursuit of political/economic objectives?

Posted by: b real | Feb 27 2007 3:09 utc | 5

just for fun, a listing of hersh’s sources in this article:

  • “current and former officials close to the Administration said…”
  • “A senior member of the House Appropriations Committee told me…”
  • “former and current officials said…”
  • “a U.S. government consultant with close ties to Israel said.”
  • “Vali Nasr, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations…told me”
  • “Martin Indyk, a senior State Department official in the Clinton Administration…who is the director of the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution…said”
  • “Patrick Clawson, an expert on Iran and the deputy director for research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, argued…”
  • “Flynt Leverett, a former Bush Administration National Security Council official, told me…”
  • “According to current and former American intelligence and military officials…”
  • “a former senior intelligence official said”
  • “…according to a Pentagon consultant on terrorism”
  • “Current and former American officials told me…”
  • “I was told by an Air Force advisor on targeting…”
  • “A European intelligence official told me…”
  • “A former Saudi diplomat told me…”
  • “Frederic Hof, a retired military officer who is an expert on the Middle East, told me…”
  • “American, European, and Arab officials I spoke to told me…”
  • “Alastair Crooke, who spent nearly thirty years in MI6, the British intelligence service, and now works for Conflicts Forum, a think tank in Beirut, told me…”
  • “according to a report by the U.S.-based International Crisis Group”
  • “a senior official in the Siniora government acknowledged that…”
  • “According to a Middle Eastern ambassador…”
  • “Walid Jumblatt, who is the leader of the Druze minority in Lebanon and a strong Siniora supporter…told me…”
  • “A former White House official told me…”
  • “Nasrallah’s aides told me…”
  • “a retired four-star general said…”
  • “One of [Nasrallah’s] advisers said…”
  • “Nasrallah said…”
  • “Robert Baer, a former longtime C.I.A. agent in Lebanon…told me…”
  • “A former C.I.A. officer who also served in Lebanon…told me…”
  • “…a former National Security Council aide told me”
  • “Senator Ron Wyden, of Oregon, a Democrat who is a member of the Intelligence Committee, told me…”
  • Posted by: b real | Feb 27 2007 3:33 utc | 6

    Juan Cole footnotes the American Enterprise Institute:
    We know that Exxon Mobil is a significant funder of the American Enterprise Institute and has used it to attempt to bribe “scientists” to cast doubt on global warming. Lee Raymond, who was CEO of Exxon Mobil until 2005, is the vice-chair of AEI’s board of directors.
    We also know that the American Enterprise Institute is the most hawkish of the Washington “think tanks,” and that its staffers were key to thinking up and promoting the Iraq War with lies and propaganda.
    A=B, B=C, therefore A=C. Exxon Mobil is a big behind the scenes player in the Iraq War by virtue of its support for AEI. In fact, I think a boycott of its gas stations is in order until the company cuts off AEI and stops promoting the Iraq War and muddying the waters on global warming. (It pledged to do the latter in the past, but obviously was lying).

    Posted by: anna missed | Feb 27 2007 3:35 utc | 7

    re: #5
    Excellent as usual b real…
    That rabbit hole goes deep. Very deep indeed. Also, I still believe Sibel Edmonds, knows where some of the bodies are buried.

    Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 27 2007 3:57 utc | 8

    Thanks for posting that (#7) anna missed. I was going to post it yesterday, as it just leaped out at me & I didn’t think I was alone around here in not knowing that…but no one was around so I was afraid it might get lost. BUT you omitted the last part of the paragraph in which he notes the equally impt. point about Jews being used to take the fall, but not driving policy. So, I’ll post his entire paragraph.
    77% of American Jews oppose the Iraq war

    Neoconservative Jews in the US like Richard Perle, Frederick Kagan and Michael Rubin at the American Enterprise Institute who vocally support the Iraq War (and have gotten rich off it) are a minority of a minority, and even are at odds with the Israeli security establishment! Moreover, the American Enterprise Institute, which crafted the Iraq War, gets funding from Exxon Mobil, and last I checked it was run by white Protestants. The vice chair of AEI is Lee Raymond, former CEO of Exxon Mobil and surely Dick Cheney’s old golf partner in the Dallas years. That is, the Kagans and the Rubins, who identify with the Revisionist Zionist movement on the Israeli Right, are useful idiots for Big Oil, not movers and shakers in their own right.

    Given the magnitude of old fashioned anti-semitism in this country, this is impt. to note. I mean as in Jews still being viewed by Christians as The Other. Recall Paul Craig Roberts column in June Counterpunch. He began by noting that he attended Stanford graduation for a friend’s child. Notes how few white males are in graduating class. In next sentence you realize that “white males” is a code for him that does not even include Jews.

    Posted by: jj | Feb 27 2007 5:15 utc | 9

    b real at 10:33(6)…..I’m sorry,but please explain what is your point? While I may not accept everything that Hersh says,I must accept that any source he cites would be “Off the record”.

    Posted by: R.L. | Feb 27 2007 5:59 utc | 10

    Badger reports today on what some (sources in European capitals) are saying about the new direction the U.S. is taking in Iraq. This also seems to coincide with what Hersh is saying:

    Today the Sadrist news-site Nahrainnet.net reports that sources in a number of European capitals are seeing evidence confirming a US strategy that is quite different from the support-Maliki program that most people seem to believe in. The immediate news-hook for this is the recent arrest, with its humiliating circumstances, of the eldest son of Abdulaziz al-Hakim, head of SCIRI. The strategy the Europeans are said to anticipate is to use the Maliki administration for as long as possible to try for the elimination of the Mahdi Army as a force in the country, and then, depending on the results of that, to attack SCIRI and the Badr Corps. If none of that works, then there would be two alternatives as followup. First would be the creation of the “alternative political base” (talked about in the famous Hadley memo), to set up a “government of national salvation”, and this would include the Iraqi List (Allawi’s group), the Iraqi Accord Front (Sunni), and the two big Kurdish parties. And finally, if that doesn’t work, the strategy calls for setting up a military government that would shut down parliament, close newspapers radio and TV, and so on….

    Clearly, the U.S. administration cannot leave Iraq with an Iranian advantage the result of their policy. So whats happening with their offensives against both the JAM (Mahdi army) and SCIRI under Maliki’s nose is an effort to strip Iranian influence and replace it with U.S. dependency — all done under the aspices of the anti-militia/extremists rubric. After the Shiite militias are hollowed out of the equation, the Maliki government is likely to just blow away with the next gentle breeze. Making the installment of an Allawi led martial law government ride in on the stallion of a Sunni re-surgency.
    And join up with the new anti-Iranian regional rodeo Hersh talks about.

    Posted by: anna missed | Feb 27 2007 8:51 utc | 11

    There seems to be some incongruity between the story and the map. The post says “Israel will be the most important and the strongest state in a region,” but on the map Israel is far and away the smallest state in the area, almost impossible to see in fact. Not even big enough to show Jerusalem. How could a state that small be the strongest in the area?

    Posted by: mike | Feb 27 2007 9:10 utc | 12

    mike,
    nukes.

    Posted by: Hamburger | Feb 27 2007 11:55 utc | 13

    Chomsky on Why Bush Does Diplomacy Mafia-Style

    I don’t think any of the outside commentators at least as far as I’m aware have taken very seriously the idea of bombing nuclear facilities. They say if there will be bombing it’ll be carpet bombing. So get the nuclear facilities but get the rest of the country too, with an exception. By accident of geography, the world’s major oil resources are in Shi’ite-dominated areas. Iran’s oil is concentrated right near the gulf, which happens to be an Arab area, not Persian. Khuzestan is Arab, has been loyal to Iran, fought with Iran not Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war. This is a potential source of dissension. I would be amazed if there isn’t an attempt going on to stir up secessionist elements in Khuzestan. U.S. forces right across the border in Iraq, including the surge, are available potentially to “defend” an independent Khuzestan against Iran, which is the way it would be put, if they can carry it off.
    Shank: Do you think that’s what the surge was for?
    Chomsky: That’s one possibility. There was a release of a Pentagon war-gaming report, in December 2004, with Gardiner leading it. It was released and published in the Atlantic Monthly. They couldn’t come up with a proposal that didn’t lead to disaster, but one of the things they considered was maintaining troop presence in Iraq beyond what’s to be used in Iraq for troop replacement and so on, and use them for a potential land move in Iran — presumably Khuzestan where the oil is. If you could carry that off, you could just bomb the rest of the country to dust.

    too many choice segments to copy them all, just read the whole thing

    Posted by: annie | Feb 27 2007 12:40 utc | 14

    re: my #8
    By all means, continue reading all five parts of the article too…
    here’s a taste:

    Some of the money is stolen outright. World Bank-financed roads in Indonesia cost an extra 30 percent to account for corruption. That’s loan money Indonesian citizens must repay. Developing countries owe more than $2 trillion to rich nations and international financial institutions such as the World Bank and the IMF. The dirty little secret of third world debt is that a substantial part of the money given for political reasons to pro-Western dictators was laundered in offshore centers and funneled back to Western stock markets and real estate. It’s estimated that for every dollar the West “gives,” or more likely, lends the third world, ten dollars in dirty money funnels back to it. This drains hard currency reserves needed to buy imports, takes away funds for investment, and beggars education and health programs.
    At the Africa-Europe summit in Cairo in 2000, when the Europeans accused the Africans of corruption, the Africans riposted, “You’re the ones that take the funds; give us our money back!” European banks have fought attempts to retrieve the money stashed by dictators.
    Attempts to find laundered funds are usually dismal failures. According to Interpol, $3 billion in dirty money has been seized in twenty years of struggle against money laundering — about the amount laundered in three days. U.S. Treasury officials say 99.9 percent of the foreign criminal and terrorist money presented for deposit in the United States gets into secure accounts. That means anti-money-laundering efforts fail 99.9 percent of the time. A major reason is the offshore bank and corporate secrecy system.
    Bank secrecy means that a prosecutor or plaintiff with a court order can’t see the financial records of someone who has just walked off with the company funds, or failed to pay child support, or has been caught divvying a kilo of heroin to a teenage sales force or running a scam that wiped out thousands of people’s savings, or paid no taxes while flying around in a private jet. It means Osama bin Laden can move money through a financial network centered around the Al Taqwa (“Fear of God”) bank, registered in the offshore haven of the Bahamas and operated from the secrecy jurisdiction of Switzerland.
    Corporate secrecy is what let Enron set up 780 shell companies in Grand Cayman and another eighty in the Turks & Caicos islands to hide insider trading, stage-manage financial records, deceive investors and creditors, and avoid U.S. taxes. The offshore system let Arthur Andersen do its “creative accounting,” manipulating its client’s books with handy secret companies and accounts.
    These beneficiaries want to keep the system. So do the big banks, which make substantial commissions on their offshore services. Offshore is not a fly-by-night operation run by unknown shady dealers. It is a blue chip industry operated by multi-billion dollar international banks and major investment, law, and accountancy firms.

    Snip:

    When I first started writing on the subject in 1997, most people I spoke to needed an explanation of “offshore.” An assistant opinion-page editor of a major American newspaper asked me, “Just what is a numbered Swiss bank account?” — and then decided the issue was too arcane and complex to present to readers, especially since she didn’t understand it herself. The editor of a major foreign policy organization’s journal asked for an article, then panicked when it turned out to be a call for the end of bank secrecy. Lacking the courage to air a challenge to the status quo (and his organization’s banker and broker members), or even to confront the author, he turned it down through his secretary. No wonder the American public does not understand this issue. The mainstream media refuse to confront it.
    It took the discovery that Osama bin Laden used a financial network based offshore and that Enron set up affiliates in secrecy havens to make U.S. political leaders, editors, and the public begin to pay serious attention. Now, the banks are working on damage control, trying to limit the scope of domestic legislation and international agreements. In Europe, citizens groups seeking global economic reform call offshore secrecy pernicious and want to end it. The Tax Justice Network (www.taxjustice.net) was organized in 2003, largely by European NGO’s seeking to end massive tax cheating by corporations and the rich. In America, however, there are only a few groups that lobby to challenge the banks. One is the Nader-connected group Citizen Works (www.citizenworks.org). On neither side of the Atlantic are governments seeking radical reforms. Who are the “moneyed interests” who keep in place the international financial services system for criminals? One might, with the French deputies seventy years ago, cry, “names!”
    Today, the names include the corporate and private wealth represented by the Bush administration. Paul O’Neill, then treasury secretary, announced at the February 2001 meeting of the G-7 that the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development-which had developed an initiative to stop tax havens from hiding the money of tax cheats-shouldn’t be “dictating to any country . . . the appropriate level of tax rates.”

    Cookies and milk for the first person to guess where these investigative records were stored…

    Posted by: Uncle $cam | Feb 27 2007 13:23 utc | 15

    @R.L (#10) – please explain what is your point?
    not trying to make any point. as i wrote, it was posted “just for fun.” i have no idea what it means, other than this is probably what one can expect when working (as a journo) w/i a narrow segment of an establishment that loathes transparency, responsibility, & accountability.
    one thing that list did was to motivate me to read up on the int’l crisis group & find out that they are associated w/ NED, USAID, etc, heavily stocked w/ ‘democracy promotion’ types & former govt officials, etc. basically, they are not an objective source of information.

    Posted by: b real | Feb 27 2007 15:45 utc | 16

    uncle, the soloman building, WTC7?

    Posted by: annie | Feb 27 2007 16:52 utc | 17

    Nasrallah reminded me of the Peters map as well.
    Some map-charts of the current (2006) situation from the NYT:
    link
    -A bit in the ‘for dummies’ line but interesting as it shows the US consensus.
    (For those interested in maps, Strange Maps has a lot of material,
    link – The current front page shows the first Turkish world map and a still ‘existing’ (sort of!) outpost of the DDR…)
    The new ME is supposed to be a patchwork of ethnically organised statelets which will presumably not only be inclined to fight one another, but will be concentrated on their own affairs and be happy with their kinsmen, thus accepting of miserable living standards and uninterested in, and incapable of, reacting to world-wide affairs. Headed by local potentates or puppets who will negotiate, calmly and reasonably, for the crumbs from the table, that they will pocket, to distribute as they see fit, which will ensure their power. Something like that. The break up is necessary, because the old colonialism is out, the British model has lived and died; the powerful US cannot (or did not wish to) control a country like Iraq. A large part of the anti-Muslim propaganda is aimed not only at legitimising bombing of ‘towel heads’, but to instill the idea of deep difference, the concept that ‘these people’ can only live securely in communities where they are surrounded by ‘their own people’, ‘have their own laws and customs’ and so on.
    Both Afgh. and Yugoslavia provide models. The US, and Karzai, have always cooperated to some degree both with local sheiks and the Taliban (with the aim of pacification, being reasonable, etc.) Kosovo has been ethnically cleansed, with the Western powers either instigating it or accepting it.
    The confused and contradictory moves of the US are to be viewed in that light.

    Posted by: Noirette | Feb 27 2007 17:20 utc | 18

    Thanks for the “Strange Maps” Noirette!

    Posted by: beq | Feb 27 2007 18:01 utc | 19

    Hersh on Fresh Air (NPR).

    Posted by: beq | Feb 27 2007 20:45 utc | 20

    b-real- as you noted, journos talk with people who will serve as sources who have access to information that ppl outside a situation do not have. Journalists have to ask if or when they are being used to give disinformation, of course, and what agendas diff. ppl have. However, such a circumstance does not mean that someone is not a reliable source for information about things that have been discussed, etc. because they are inside of a system…how do you think information comes forth in these situations? it’s not going to come from Chris Floyd’s prognostications. He can guess, but he cannot know.
    I dont’ think any “objective” source of information exists, anyway. Every bit of information is filtered through existing biases in everyone. Hersh certainly knows this as well. He has years of experience with people who leak information b/c of power struggles, for instance, but that doesn’t mean information isn’t true, just because it may advance one person or group’s cause over anothers.
    As Hersh noted earlier, in fact, generals, etc. that are sources will not come forward because they have a few more years before retirement and they have kids and mortgages and all the reasons that ppl in other circumstances in life put up with disgusting situations. With them, however, the stakes are definitely bigger than for most of us who can justify not messing up our careers because of those who rely upon us.
    Hersh is also the one who told the world that there were much, much worse torture pictures that documented horrors performed by this nation on other humans…and this information also came from those inside sources.
    One interesting thing I remember a decade or so ago was when I met a bunch of academics who had protested in the 60s, etc. who were then taking govt money to work on projects that were most certainly being used by the same govt they couldn’t tolerate to be used for defense, etc…the DoD has long been a huge source of funding for hard sciences, and is one reason they make so much more money than ppl in other areas of academia. They noted this themselves…noted the irony, but didn’t think their actions meant they should stop their jobs or put their families in financial hardship.
    I thought your list was interesting too, but for a different reason. Hersh’s information comes from a variety of sources within diff. groups who can and do have competing interests, and sometimes intersecting ones.
    Hersh, as well, was the source for the “stovepiping” information about Cheney and Rummy’s “Plan B” troops. This also came from insiders. This information is also now considered part of the record of current history. No one but the neo-cons denies that they were idiots and refused to accept any feedback from anyone else who knew more about the situations than they did.
    I think the most important information that Hersh provided was the admission that another Iran-Contra-style operation is ongoing, and Cheney is at the center of it. Someone is giving Congress ammo to get rid of Dick.

    Posted by: fauxreal | Feb 28 2007 2:42 utc | 21

    “Someone is giving Congress ammo to get rid of Dick.”
    That is surely how it looks. The number of people attending Abrams’ little session could not have been very many — since they trust hardly anybody. Apparently they trusted one too many nevertheless. Interesting.

    Posted by: YouFascinateMe | Mar 1 2007 16:33 utc | 22

    Interesting discussion between 43 and 41: any proof at all? Any reference? Or just another fantasy?

    Posted by: judith weingarten | Mar 1 2007 19:57 utc | 23

    @mike #12
    ever looked at the little islands of Gt Britain on a map? ever looked at a mid C19 map where the British Empire was coloured in pink and encompassed a subcontinent (India) and a big chunk of Africa plus little bits all over?
    the size of the core is not necessarily proportional to its power: it’s the size of the periphery that indicates the power relation. and the power relation is determined by the will and the technology to commit mass murder — whether it be Enflied rifles, Gatling guns and poison gas, or nukes.

    Posted by: DeAnander | Mar 1 2007 21:31 utc | 24

    any proof at all? Any reference?
    judith, that was addressed at the link, caveats included.

    Can this possibly be true?
    Cockburn is a good reporter who has covered national security for decades. He wouldn’t make it up. He writes that he got this anecdote from “friends of the family,” which means multiple sources—probably not eyewitnesses, but rather people who heard the story from the elder Bush or (more likely) from Scowcroft. Scowcroft is a very close friend to Bush père, making it plausible that he would have heard about the conversation between father and son. And because Scowcroft is close to Bush père, one can easily imagine that two other people who would have heard the story (third-hand) from Scowcroft would also be friends of the elder Bushes.

    just another fantasy?
    you mean like all the other unfounded allegations floating around regarding neocons, israel, or the bush family?

    Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 1 2007 23:07 utc | 25

    that was me @25

    Posted by: annie | Mar 1 2007 23:09 utc | 26

    The Dark Side of Spun a Lot? Seymour Hersh and Iran

    The broad tropes of Hersh’s arguments are correct. The US has indeed abandoned the neoconservative approach to the Middle East (which Hersh so loathed), to return to political “realism” based on imposing a balance of power. Much like the US did during the 1980s when it supported Iraq in its war against Iran, the Bush administration is today using Sunnis against Shiites (though in Iraq it is mainly using Shiites against Sunnis). The policy is risky – fiddling with sectarianism may ultimately backfire – but the problem with Hersh is that he offers little hard evidence for many of his controversial assertions. In fact his discussion of Lebanon in particular and his broader charge that the administration is engaging in clandestine activities without proper legislative approval are ill-informed or partial. The New Yorker has signed off on a piece shoddily constructed, often tendentious, and driven almost entirely by Hersh’s sources (most of the more significant ones left unnamed), rather than his own independent confirmation of the details.
    Let’s start with Lebanon, where the American and Saudi effort to counter Iran and its allies is in full swing. …

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