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January 6, 2007
Those New Positions

As I didn´t get much news or reading-time the last two days (I was herding cats …) just two thoughts on the shuffeling within today’s administration and military leadership.

Negroponte going back to State as deputy may look like a downgrade, but it is a preparation to kick out Rice and to elevate him to Sec. State. She is ineffective for the Cheney/Bush projects and will have to leave. I expect her to resign for personal reasons and to again move into some academic position.

An alternative, but less likely, thought would be a resignation of Cheney for health impediments and Rice taking up his position but without the influence.

An Admiral taking over as commander of Central Command is quite weird. The U.S. is involved in two (three if you count in Somalia) land/guerilla wars in Central Command’s region and that Admiral has no idea or experience in this.

The only reason for this can thereby be an air/sea, bombing and blockade, campaign against a Central Command adversary with the only reasonable candidate being Iran.

Unfortunately, none of this is good news.

Comments

Hi B,
Welcome home!
Since the PNAC plan is full steam ahead, I don’t see Darthman leaving town anytime soon. Condi can play with China and N. Korea while Death Squads Negroponte directs traffic in the ME.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 6 2007 23:43 utc | 1

Another new position – US Ambassador to Iraqi, replacing Kalilzad –
may be this guy
Link found at TPM.
So who’s side are we gonna be on?

Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 6 2007 23:56 utc | 2

I don’t see cheney leaving while still alive either. it would be a great day if rice took his place….her incompetence is unrivaled in this administration.
as for the Admiral assuming command of Centcom, maybe no one else would take the job. who wants to be remembered for escalating and failing?

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 7 2007 0:01 utc | 3

I wonder if there is some possibility that Cheney may be indicted in the fall-out from the Scooter Libby trial. (He is the former Cheney aide charged with lying to Patrick Fitzgerald about the leaking of Valerie Plame’s spy status.) The trial starts later this month. This is rather farfetched, but perhaps they are already anticipating Cheney having to leave a la Spiro Agnew, and then putting Condi in to replace him.

Posted by: Maxcrat | Jan 7 2007 0:05 utc | 4

Well, if you want to impeach Bush or force him out in any way, better get rid of Cheney first so that he won’t be preznit once W is back on the farm. Could be PNAC pushing their plan, or could be the money power and some less batshit crazy GOPers wanting to save their ass and assets by smartly moving to remove the head of the beast before all goes South.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Jan 7 2007 0:17 utc | 5

kinda looks like Abbas is making a move to take out Hamas. At this point he seems to be almost certainly an Israeli agent. He receives direct aid in the form of guns from Egypt and money from the US while Israel does everything possible to make life miserable for Hamas.
rabble rousers are carrying out attacks and kidnappings of Hamas officials which are bound to get some kind of tit for tat response
poor bastards are in for some more death

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 7 2007 0:29 utc | 6

hmmm, maxcrat, i like your thinking. seems wildly optimistic, but you never know. also just occurred to me that it condi as veep would stregnthen her position as a presidential contender in 2008. maybe cheney will be sacrificed.

Posted by: conchita | Jan 7 2007 0:30 utc | 7

sacrificial pig not lamb.

Posted by: conchita | Jan 7 2007 0:34 utc | 8

The Third Reich ended with the power in the hands of an admiral, despite the fact that it was being carved in half by two land invasions.
I ain’t sayin’, I’m just sayin’.

Posted by: Rowan | Jan 7 2007 0:39 utc | 9

i think the whole new shift – negroponte, khalilzad & petraeus(a proven psychopath in the province of anbar -with a doctorate from harvard, stanford or cornell, whatever – high minded butcher factories) – is a shift for the worse
there is absolutely not one ounce of moderation in this criminal administration & i see no such ‘moderating’ influence such as baker, or scowcroft or any of bush the elders gaggle of goodolboysturnedstatesmen
& cheney’s not moving unless someone can disconnect the defrbilator
no, the people of iraq & of america have much darker days to come

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 7 2007 0:45 utc | 10

Annals of Stupid Ideas:
Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran

ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons.
Two Israeli air force squadrons are training to blow up an Iranian facility using low-yield nuclear “bunker-busters”, according to several Israeli military sources.
The attack would be the first with nuclear weapons since 1945, when the United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Israeli weapons would each have a force equivalent to one-fifteenth of the Hiroshima bomb.
Under the plans, conventional laser-guided bombs would open “tunnels” into the targets. “Mini-nukes” would then immediately be fired into a plant at Natanz, exploding deep underground to reduce the risk of radioactive fallout.
“As soon as the green light is given, it will be one mission, one strike and the Iranian nuclear project will be demolished,” said one of the sources.

Posted by: b | Jan 7 2007 0:56 utc | 11

rabble rouser link from #6
and Egypt if it doesn’t work
sorry

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 7 2007 0:57 utc | 12

b
the plan quite, quite mad but i wonder if it is in the feverish imagination of murdoch & his likudnik pals rather than reality based
perhaps alabama is correct – james baker & the big boys will have to set the house in order, finally – if they are toi be left with a few razoos to their name

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 7 2007 1:04 utc | 13

a very interasting/speculative (?) take by Richard Sale on Negroponte’Sale on Negropontes move (via Pat Lang)

“Contrary to the bland stories in The New York Times and Washington Post of Friday, Negroponte did not go voluntarily to State from his job as director of intelligence. In fact, there was tremendous administration pressure to get him out of his current job. The chief cause of the quarrel involved Negroponte’s balking at at request from Vice President Cheney to increase domestic collection by the National Security Agency on U.S. citizens.

Sale on Negroponte Move

Posted by: b | Jan 7 2007 1:04 utc | 14

ya know b, I get 26,900 hits when googling Israel plans “nuclear strike on Iran”
this is probably in line with recent reports that the Israeli papers are all saying the attack on Iran is a done deal. if you repeat something often enough it becomes accepted as fact.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 7 2007 1:11 utc | 15

sale’s article would tend to support alabama’s contention but as he also sd – this changes nothing on the ground – for on the ground the us has lost, ireedeemably
what it will affect however – is this planned war of agression on iran & on that it is less clear to me – how the changing of chairs on the titanic will affect this
tonight there is unparalleled levels of violence in the occupied territories & also new massacres in baghdad to welcome the surges from the states
& some news of the peshmerga being sent from kirkuk to battle in baghdad. the poor kurds have not learnt the most elementary lesson of their oppression – that they will be isolated & abandoned at the nearest opportunity

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 7 2007 1:24 utc | 16

Cutler points out in Cheney, White Hawk Down that all the changes afoot are neo-cons being replaced by realists.
Which is not necessarily a good thing as it just indicates a change of course, not even redeployment — so the killing is likely to go on, but new targets chosen, beginning with the Mahdi Army I suppose. I think the realists/arabists in the administration are being givin the chance to do things their way. Even Charles Krauthammer looks (in a recent column) to have flipped from neo-con to an anti-Shiite (Maliki government) position. So it looks like the road to Tehran will begin in Sadr City.

Posted by: anna missed | Jan 7 2007 1:34 utc | 17

Putting Rice in as VP would probably assist Obama’s run in 2008. I don’t think they would want to do that even though she is inept enough for the job.

Posted by: biklett | Jan 7 2007 1:55 utc | 18

New Positions, alright…
Democrats: Nuclear Iran unacceptable
Listen up, you fucking pro-war Democrats and you sheep ass people whom think the democrats are doing the peoples business, you’ve been hoodwinked, again….
To: Democrats
From: The people who gave you Congress and can just as easily take it away.
There is no nuclear Iran.
There IS a nuclear Israel which as of today has announced plans to conduct an UNPROVOKED ATTACK on a neighboring nation using nuclear weapons.
THAT is unacceptable, all the more so because We The People were tricked into paying for Israel’s nuclear arsenal.
Israel is not a helpless victim. They are an aggressive nation with a track record of belligerency against their neighbor nations and dirty tricks against their “friends”, including the US.
Please remember that you work for WE THE PEOPLE, not a foreign government.
You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.~Eric Hoffer

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 7 2007 2:44 utc | 19

thanks, uncle. well said.
if the dems weren’t such idiots we wouldn’t have lieberman in the senate and steny hoyer as majority leader instead of murtha.

Posted by: conchita | Jan 7 2007 3:03 utc | 20

“An Admiral taking over as commander of Central Command is quite weird.”
Retired Vice-Admiral McConnell is not without some experience in these matters:Nominee played big role in outsourcing intelligence

McConnell, a retired Navy vice admiral, led the National Security Agency from 1992 to 1996 before joining Booz Allen Hamilton Inc., a consulting firm based in McLean, Va.
White House officials confirmed McConnell’s appointment to replace Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte but declined to be identified by name because the nomination has not been formally announced.
McConnell’s nomination and confirmation by the Senate would come amid two current trends in intelligence gathering: the emphasis on technology, and the heightened role of private contractors in analyzing data and preparing reports that once might have been written by government intelligence officers.

In this case, experience is not necessarily a good thing:

Booz Allen has received at least $50 million in Pentagon contracts since November 2005, records show. Some involve remnants of the Pentagon’s “Total Information Awareness” program. Congress killed the program in 2003 amid concerns it would invade the privacy of ordinary Americans.
The $63 million contract signed with Booz Allen in 2002 called for the firm to develop a single system to collect and search through huge databases of government, personal and business records for signs of terrorist activities. McConnell signed that contract on Booz Allen’s behalf.
Work on that contract has continued, according to federal contracting records, which show the Pentagon paid Booz Allen about $2 million under that contract during 2006, most recently on Sept. 26.
Spokesmen for the White House, Pentagon, Booz Allen and Negroponte’s office all have declined to comment on the contract.
Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, says he will question McConnell about the program and intelligence contracting.
“It’s a critical concern,” says Wyden, who led the efforts to kill TIA in 2002.

Congress did not “kill” the TIA program as this article suggests. Former SecDef Donald Rumsfeld as much as confirmed that the only thing they did was to change its name.
This is essentially the massive database that the US FBI and Department of Homeland Security are currently using to monitor all US citizens to assess their “terror scores”, prevent them from travelling, and prosecute them for crimes they have not committed, but may commit at some future date (based on the questionably statistical nature of their lifestyles, purchases and personal communications).
There’s a lot of concern about the system’s reliability. On the one hand, nobody can see or correct anything that goes into it, so “…civil liberties and privacy advocates warn that granting broad access to such a system is almost certain to invite abuse and lead to police mistakes.
“Raw police files or FBI reports can never be verified and can never be corrected,” said Barry Steinhardt, director of the Technology and Liberty Project at the American Civil Liberties Union. “The idea that they’re creating another whole system that is going to be full of inaccurate information is just chilling.”

On the other hand, I’d be just as concerned that it works precisely as it is intended to… which is to say, many nominally innocent people will be langouring in newly-built detention facilities to ease the minds of a small number of fearful, rich, white xenophobes. The Scylla and Charibdis that McConnell wants us to navigate runs between a world with no privacy rights (if it works) and a world of spurious arrests (if it doesn’t). Rather than scrapping the whole thing (as a sensible sort would), McConnell and his ilk have embraced the worst of all possible worlds and promise to deliver both.
It’s exactly the sort of mentality I have come to expect from these sorts. Quibble over the details all you may (e.g.; Individuals made mistakes in the invasion of Iraq), but never, NEVER question whether the policy itself is flawed (e.g.; The invasion of Iraq was, by itself, a mistake).

Posted by: Monolycus | Jan 7 2007 4:05 utc | 21

@Monolycos – the Admiral I was speculating about is Adm. William Fallon who will take over Central Command, Gen. Abizadh’s position.
McConnell for DNI is interesting too in the sense that the miliitary takes over quite about all intelligence positions. As Laura says: One thought — military people tend to do what they’re told.

Posted by: b | Jan 7 2007 6:20 utc | 22

@b (#22)
Too much shuffling to keep track of folk by rank these days. I saw “Negroponte” and “admiral” and thought you were talking about the National Intelligence slot.
Looks like I missed the boat.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jan 7 2007 6:33 utc | 23

not exactly, monolycus. if anything you added another dimension, highlighting how widespread the presence of current and ex-military personnel is in this administration.

Posted by: conchita | Jan 7 2007 6:42 utc | 24

Very interesting post up on Pat Lang’s blog from Richard Sale. On the subject of Negroponte’s move to state. Its not what you think.

Posted by: anna missed | Jan 7 2007 9:06 utc | 25

The ‘surge’ makes my gut want to join it.
But I don’t believe anything that this Administration puts in the press. They are not incompetent, everything they did was done deliberately. Chaos in Iraq was the desired outcome of this invasion.
As with a magician–they direct the attention one way while the real dirty business is going on somewhere else.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 7 2007 10:04 utc | 26

I am on my 3rd tour, I have seen a contractor shoot a civilian in the head because he protested when the contractor grabbed his daughters breasts. There was nothing that anyone could do about it when re radioed it in we were told to lethim go. This isjust one of dozens of stories and one that I saw myself.

Form a Defense Tech comments

Posted by: b | Jan 7 2007 10:56 utc | 27

Five words, slipped into a Pentagon budget bill, could make all the difference. With them, “contractors ‘get out of jail free’ cards may have been torn to shreds,” he writes. They’re now subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the same set of laws that governs soldiers. But here’s the catch: embedded reporters are now under those regulations, too.

The Law Catches Up To Private Militaries, Embeds
Embedded journalists are now under legal(!?) control of the military …

Posted by: b | Jan 7 2007 11:06 utc | 28

Froomkin’s take on those new positions: A purge of the unbelievers

Harriet Miers, a longtime companion of the president but never a true believer in Vice President Cheney’s views of a nearly unrestrained executive branch, is out as White House counsel — likely to be replaced by someone in the more ferocious model of Cheney chief of staff David S. Addington.
Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalizad, considered by Cheney to be too soft on the Sunnis, is kicked upstairs to the United Nations, to be replaced by Ryan Crocker, who presumably does not share his squeamishness.
John Negroponte, not alarmist enough about the Iranian nuclear threat in his role as Director of National Intelligence, is shifted over to the State Department, the Bush administration’s safehouse for the insufficiently neocon. Cheney, who likes to pick his own intelligence, thank you, personally intervenes to get his old friend Mike McConnell to take Negroponte’s job.
And George Casey and John Abizaid — the generals who so loyally served as cheerleaders for the White House’s “stay the course” approach during the mid-term election campaigns — are jettisoned for having shown a little backbone in their opposition to Cheney and Bush’s politically-motivated insistence on throwing more troops into the Iraqi conflagration.

More at the link.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jan 7 2007 23:11 utc | 29

Although officials said the president has yet to settle on an exact figure of new troops, senior military leaders and commanders are deeply worried that a “surge” of as many as five brigades, or 20,000 troops, in Iraq and Kuwait would tax U.S. ground forces already stretched to the breaking point — and may still prove inadequate to quell sectarian violence and the Sunni insurgency. Some senior U.S. officials think it could even backfire. from link to WaPo
“…inadequate to quell sectarian violence and the Sunni insurgency”. As if the “sectarian violence” and the “Sunni insurgency” wereequally damaging to U.S. ground forces, and as if the insurgency was itself merely sectarian (i.e. “Sunni”)!
No.
The insurgency is not Sunni, it’s Ba’athist, and its primary target is not the Shiite community, but the “U.S. ground forces” pure and simple. Is there some overlap between the two conflicts? Of course there is, but the main point to be made here is that the Americans are losing to the insurgency, whose aim it is to drive them out of Iraq. Which would explain why a “surge” could only “backfire”: it creates a bigger target for the insurgency’s IEDs, its sharpshooters, its experts in the arts of ambush. Our commanders don’t want to go there. They’ve learned their lesson the hard way.
But they’re doomed to this misbegotten “surge,” if only because Bush and his underlings are obliged to blend the insurgency with sectarian violence–or, more precisely, to obscure the pertinent distinctions between the two. Only thus can they put the onus of defeat on those pesky “sectarians,” too infantile to get down to the serious business of building a democracy.
At a certain point–but when?–Bush’s underlings will throw up their hands in histrionic hyperbole, announcing that it’s impossible to work with these fools, and commence the long-awaited business of a military “pull-out”. Without ever having to explain to anyone–anyone, that is, who doesn’t speak Arabic or Persian–that the U.S. military was ground down into utter ruin by Hussein’s praetorian guard.
Why this charade? Well, no one hereabouts–Democrat or Republican–is prepared to admit that insurgencies work, and that there’s a real limit to what our forces can do on any given scale. Not that this wasn’t the lesson of Viet Nam!
The one thing that counts for these folks is simply this: the American people must never, never learn the lessons to be drawn from the defeat of their military machine. If they were really to learn the lessons of defeat, they would also learn the wisdom of staying our military hand. They would learn that the military isn’t the answer to our problems. They would learn, over a long, slow century or so, that political problems are not in themselves to be solved by military force–that the indiscriminate use of force creates political problems we never even imagined.
But no one’s going to learn this lesson. No one, that is, except the ground troops who learned what insurgencies can do on the field. But those troops will not be in a position to teach us much; they have to mend their wounds and get on with their lives–the ones who survive, that is.

Posted by: alabama | Jan 8 2007 3:54 utc | 30

One big fat irony to be sure, are those politicos in washington now screaming for the surge — are the same types that blame the loss of Vietnam on the politicos back then in washington, calling the shots.

Posted by: anna missed | Jan 8 2007 4:32 utc | 31

The insurgency is not Sunni, it’s Ba’athist, and its primary target is not the Shiite community, but the “U.S. ground forces” pure and simple.
just in case anyone doubts that point. from my email today – the iraqi resistance report from the free arab voice. haven’t linked there yet. not sure i want to.

Free Arab Voice – 6 January 2007.
Iraqi Resistance Report for events of Saturday, 6 January 2007.
Translated and/or compiled by Muhammad Abu Nasr, member, editorial board,the Free Arab Voice.
* Resistance bomb leaves three US Marines reported dead in ar-Ramadi’s al-Mal`ab area.
* Iraqi Resistance sharpshooter reportedly kills US Marine in ar-Ramadi Friday.
* Four US Marines reported killed by Resistance car bomber at checkpoint east of ar-Ramadi on Friday.
* Puppet police chief of Baghdad survives car bomb attack Saturday morning.
* Resistance bomb reportedly kills British soldier in al-Basrah Saturday morning.
* American abducted near al-Basrah on Friday.
al-Anbar Province.
Al-Fallujah.
Resistance bomb destroys American Humvee in al-Fallujah Saturday morning.
In a dispatch posted at 1:47pm Makkah time Saturday afternoon,Mafkarat al-Islam reported that an Iraqi Resistance bomb exploded by a passing American patrol in al-Fallujah, 60km west of Baghdad at about 7am local time Saturday morning.
The correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam reported eyewitnesses as saying that a bomb that had been planted by the main street near the Industrial Zone in the city went off by a US patrol, destroying a Humvee and killing or wounding the US troops aboard it. Afterwards the Americans closed the street and sealed off the area.
Resistance fighters ambush US troops in eastern al-Fallujah late Friday night.
In a dispatch posted at 1:39pm Makkah time Saturday afternoon, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that Iraqi Resistance force destroyed two US military vehicles in the course of a battle in al-Fallujah, about 60km west of Baghdad on Friday night.
The correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam reported that a violent battle broke out between US and Iraqi Resistance forces late on Friday night. A source in the puppet police said that the combat took place near the al-Hadrah al-Muhammadiyah Mosque in eastern al-Fallujah after 10pm local time Sunday.
The source said that Resistance men fired rocket-propelled grenades and machine guns as they ambushed the Americans, destroying two US vehicles. The puppet police source was unable to provide any information regarding the nature or extent of casualties.
The attack came shortly after an Iraqi Resistance car bomber blew himself up at a US checkpoint in nearby ar-Ramadi.

and it continues on for each province and city in iraq.

Posted by: conchita | Jan 8 2007 4:35 utc | 32

The insurgency is not Sunni, it’s Ba’athist, and its primary target is not the Shiite community, but the “U.S. ground forces” pure and simple.
from truth about iraqi’s
In the weeks and months since his arrest, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein lauded the Iraqi resistance and urged all sections of our country’s society to unite.
He called on Shia and Sunnis to eject the invader, to put aside any differences they may have towards this goal.
In the weeks and months since his arrest, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein lauded the Iraqi resistance and urged all sections of our country’s society to unite.
He called on Shia and Sunnis to eject the invader, to put aside any differences they may have towards this goal.
….
This is why Maliki earlier this week said he wished he could quit his position as prime minister. Maliki came to power to implement the mandate of the Jaafary government to ethnically cleanse Iraq of Arab nationalists.
Whether you are Sunni or Shia. As long as you are an Arab nationalist, you are targeted. By Iran. Learn this well – Iran is the eternal enemy of the Arabs.

the war is against the nationalists,not sunni.the invaders are the US and iran (strange bedfellows)

Posted by: annie | Jan 8 2007 5:10 utc | 33

inside baghdad tho, things are looking pretty ugly. from missing links
And in conclusion, the journalist notes this: “Armed groups that were originally formed for resistance against the occupation, now center their attention on open war with the [Shiite] militias, for instance in a recent statement the “Emir” of the Islamic Army in Iraq said “the struggle against the exterminating Safavids is more important than the struggle against the American occupation”.
in another MS post
Arabs in the liberal and even Iran-leaning camps have been warning about fallout from the Saddam execution, for instance Fahmy Howeidy wrote that it is important for Iran to explain clearly what its position is in Iraq so that if some of the rumors aren’t true they can be countered; and for another instance leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan are worried about American or sectarian exploitation of any critical remarks they might make about the Iranian position in Iraq.
a must read post..
The veil was “democracy”. Here is how Al-Musa puts it:
I admit that I excessively celebrated democracy in the new Iraq, and I confess that I believed it was the ballot-box that brought about a Kurdish president, and a Shiite prime minister, and a president of parliament of the same sect. Until the astonishing record in the seating panorama for the enjoyment of the last supper on the eve of al-Adha, which was an astonishing record: Fifteen sectarians, and not a Sunni or a Kurd among them, except for one man who was brought in so that he could help with the shahada…

Posted by: annie | Jan 8 2007 5:22 utc | 34

There has been a degree of complicity between the US and Iran, but again, let’s use our critical thinking ability here.
Clearly their interests are not the same — and, more and more they are diverging: The US seeks to dominate the region, while Iran has sought to wipe out a regional rival, and having suceeded at that task, now seeks (like Russia and others) to embroil the US in a slow bleed so that the US can no longer afford to militarily challenge Iran, or dominate the region.
This is pretty obvious.

Posted by: Bob M. | Jan 8 2007 5:38 utc | 35

link to Yahoo
This will be fun to watch. Something called “Iraq” is giving “its” oil away to foreign corporations. To get at that oil, of course, the foreigners will have to quell the insurgency–something best done, if done at all, by great big military machines like the U.S. Army. In effect, the corporations buying in will have to persuade their own governments to join the “coalition of the willing” (since it seems that the U.S. can’t do it all by itself). And who shall join? France, perhaps? Italy? Great Britain? Germany? Russia? Venezuela? Nigeria? Indonesia? Mexico?
You have to hand it to those neo-cons: they never stop hallucinating, and they never stop manipulating. Boringly. How just how boringly? Oh, as boringly as David Ignatius and his fellow failed novelists–like Scooter Libby, or Lynne Cheney….The scum of the earth, intellectually regarded.

Posted by: alabama | Jan 8 2007 6:12 utc | 36

According to Gen. Pertraeus book on counterinsurgency a quote of 20 soldiers is needed per 1000 inhabitants. In Baghdad alone that would be 100,000 GI’s.
Even then, it would take ten years according to the official manual.
So evrybody is still lowballing the escalation:
War Could Last Years, Commander Says

The new American operational commander in Iraq said Sunday that even with the additional American troops likely to be deployed in Baghdad under President Bush’s new war strategy it might take another “two or three years” for American and Iraqi forces to gain the upper hand in the war.

Posted by: b | Jan 8 2007 6:22 utc | 37

yep, b, just long enough to hand it over to the democratic party and let them take the blame – not that they don’t deserve part of it for enabling.

Posted by: conchita | Jan 8 2007 6:24 utc | 38

alabama, that link is not working for me
bob m, i agree that clearly their goals are not the same, that is why i called them strange bedfellows. nonetheless to nationalists they are both invaders. the US is using puppets w/allegiances to iran. the caldron will boil over if /when IS/US invades.

Posted by: annie | Jan 8 2007 7:01 utc | 39

Krugman: Quagmire of the Vanities

The only real question about the planned “surge” in Iraq — which is better described as a Vietnam-style escalation — is whether its proponents are cynical or delusional.

Posted by: b | Jan 8 2007 7:29 utc | 40

Annie, you can find the piece on Drudge–fourth or fifth down on the left.

Posted by: alabama | Jan 8 2007 7:31 utc | 41

the US is using puppets w/allegiances to iran
Besides having read this old chestnut over and over again in the corporate press, what evidence do you have? It seems to me that the puppets allegiances are towards the puppetmasters while enriching themselves from the safety of comfy Kensington townhouses.

Posted by: Bob M. | Jan 8 2007 11:21 utc | 42

@ b#40 – delusional
“L’etat c’est moi,” seems to work for B43 just as well as it did for LXIV. Thus, his naivete, his anger at rejection, and his perpetual fascination with violence and self-destruction become the way and purpose of the nation.
Around the delusional core may be many cynics, happy to engorge themselves at the state trough until it turns to thin gruel.
@b#37 -So right about numbers. And the Army doesn’t have that number of forces. Nor could it raise, with or without a draft, the necessary numbers of troops, sufficiently trained in fighting insurgencies, quickly enough to meet demands of even the theoretical model of counter insurgency, much less a real, intelligent, and adaptive insurgency.
Reading the lines and between the lines in many media reports, it seems evident that a significant majority of Army and Marine commanders know this and are trying, short of open insubordination or coup, to say “No” to a vain escalation or new invasion, contemplated by a policy that refuses even to recognize the nature of the enemy. Congress needs to find a way to support this military resistance to national self-destruction.

Posted by: small coke | Jan 8 2007 23:31 utc | 43

looks like one of our nuclear subs has once again hit a japanese ship in the straights of hormuz.a tanker.thought i had saved the link forget where i saw it but will keep looking.this should hit the news big i would think.we may have just tipped our hand.

Posted by: onzaga | Jan 9 2007 10:57 utc | 44

@onzaga
U.S. submarine, Japanese ship collide
Didn’t we do this before? a few years ago and killed some Japanese people? Seems like I remember something close.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 9 2007 14:13 utc | 45

Ahhh, found it…U.S. sub hits Japanese fishing vessel, 10 missing

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 9 2007 14:18 utc | 46

“L’etat c’est moi,” seems to work for B43 just as well as it did for LXIV. Thus, his naivete, his anger at rejection, and his perpetual fascination with violence and self-destruction become the way and purpose of the nation.
@small coke #43 (funny that this post turned out to be #43…)
Bravo. So well said. Thanks.

Posted by: Bea | Jan 9 2007 14:59 utc | 47

Ray McGovern, former CIA, cofounder of VIPS (Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity) had two observations, in a recent radio interview, about the move of Negroponte from DNI to State.
1) To the surprise of McGovern and many in the intelligence community, Negroponte allowed two “truthful” National Intelligence Estimates to be published, while he was at DNI. Both were devastatiing to Cheney’s position on Iraq & ME.
2) McGovern referred to Richard Sales report about Negroponte’s move, posted by Pat Lang. McGovern confirms that Sales’ sources are generally very reliable.

The chief cause of the quarrel involved Negroponte’s balking at a request from Vice President Cheney to increase domestic collection by the National Security Agency on U.S. citizens.
Negroponte flatly refused, Cheney bridled, and from then on the pressure built to get rid of him. (The White House did not return phone calls, but there is nothing new is that.)

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