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December 7, 2006
OT 06-114
A fresh one …
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We are consumed by the events in Mesopotamia and we disregard the most important aspects of our present predicament. Technology has changed completely the manner in which politics or war are carried out. We are in a revolutionary moment but not one of those moments in which one expects something grave to happen that will overwhelm, bouleverse, the systems. By our acting we are creating the very revolution. The State is in retreat. Someone said that the State was the entity that could use violence legally. The dictum may stand but the proliferation of cameras, telephones and videos makes the violent activities of the state if not impossible at least very restricted. When policemen beat a guy we see that now instantly, when a bomb destroys a neighborhood we see it. The state in order to preserve its appearance must attempt to appear moral and nowadays we see the violent activities of the state in stark reality. Another aspect of the state that is vanishing is the control of money printing or striking. The credit card system has made actual currency unnecessary. The third aspect of the state that is vanishing is the inplementation of some plan of conquest or subjection through war. The lesson in Iraq is that people refuse to submit and they are ready to die while killing. Regular armies want to kill without suffering death. If you are a devotee of Hegel you will notice that I am describing the transition from desire to the master slave relationship. The states of Europe are a glaring example of the superfluity of states. The European states limit themselves nowadays, to controlling the manifestation of religious beliefs while the technocrats in Brussels create ordinances that have to be obeyed by everyone across borders and seas. This is the revolution. Older categories have to be jetissoned and new ones created, actually they are not created they become obvious. Posted by: jlcg | Dec 7 2006 18:40 utc | 1 It’s Bigotry That Should Be Silenced
Posted by: Bea | Dec 7 2006 19:01 utc | 2 Game time! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 7 2006 19:54 utc | 3 jlcg –
Pls persuade me I am wrong, that these are not sentinel signs. Posted by: small coke | Dec 7 2006 20:38 utc | 4 Iraq is a diversion. As the army attacks Iraq, the US gov’t erodes rights at home by suspending habeas corpus, stealing private lands, banning books like “America Deceived” from Amazon, rigging elections, conducting warrantless wiretaps and starting 2 illegal wars based on lies. Soon, another US false-flag operation will occur (sinking of an Aircraft Carrier by Mossad) and the US will invade Iran, (on behalf of Israel). Posted by: Pearl Harbor Day | Dec 7 2006 21:48 utc | 5 re #5 see It is the speculation of this commenter that the author of the previous comment is actually the author of the book looking for some easy publicity via blogs. A google search on “America Decieved” will bring up hundreds of very similary comments, but all have the link to iUniverse in them and the tag line “Final link (before Google Books bends to gov’t will and drops the title)”. Posted by: b real | Dec 7 2006 22:17 utc | 6
Will Europe prepare to freeze when Russia turn off the Gas? Posted by: Cloned Poster | Dec 7 2006 22:33 utc | 7 Thanks b-real – I deleted the link in comment #5 Jerome is up right on this one. @beq Posted by: crone | Dec 8 2006 0:54 utc | 13 “Do any of you know if Billmon is alive and well?” Posted by: pb | Dec 8 2006 3:26 utc | 14 i heard he was rummaging around the attic for his santa costume Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 8 2006 4:00 utc | 15 another article on Bush’s Vacation Get-Away in Paraguay?
Posted by: b real | Dec 8 2006 4:46 utc | 16 Lieber Bernhard, ich hab’ am Moon over Alabama für eine lange Weile nicht geschrieben. Endlich bin ich vertig, meine Gedănke zu teilen. Ich kann Euch nicht genug danken; Moon over Alabama ist meine beste Quelle für Wahrheit under Klarheit. Wo anders kann ich solche eigenartige Meinungen lesen, remingerbergiap und Uncle Scam und Noirette und alle die andere? Und Sie besonders. Posted by: Aigin | Dec 8 2006 5:51 utc | 17 Saudi Arabias funding of Iraqi Sunnis. And what they may be spending the money on:
This is what, with outside funding, drove the Soviets out of Afghanistan — and why the U.S. can ill-afford to retreat onto their bases, or abandon entire provinces, or side with the Shiites in the civil war — the late game options reduce to one. Posted by: anna missed | Dec 8 2006 8:25 utc | 19 anna missed: Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 8 2006 9:37 utc | 20 Greater Role for Nonscientists in E.P.A. Pollution Decisions
Pure Orwell .. “Policy-relevant” science has been explained to me :
Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 8 2006 11:21 utc | 22 Four attempts to post that last before I was able to read the gibberish put out by the “friendly interface”. Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 8 2006 11:23 utc | 23 Carter OpEd in LAT: Speaking frankly about Israel and Palestine
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Lind: When Will the First IED Strike Cleveland? – The Boomerang Effect
In Beit Hanun and Baghdad, the scene is the same:
So this is what war has become: Armies invade private homes and bomb civilians, and any resident who dares to hold a weapon is marked for death because they are a “terrorist?” Am I reading this article correctly, folks? Has the concept of self-defense, then, ceased to exist????? Posted by: Bea | Dec 8 2006 15:00 utc | 28 Clarification: The bolded quote in my post #28 was from Lieutenant Colonel Chris Garver, a US military spokesman. The way I excerpted the piece that was unclear. Posted by: Bea | Dec 8 2006 15:03 utc | 29 Ex-Detainees Seek to Sue U.S. Officials
Posted by: Bea | Dec 8 2006 15:48 utc | 31 Uncle, here’s the Link Not sure how I omitted it – probably I was too angry! Posted by: Bea | Dec 8 2006 15:53 utc | 32 Re: b’s #27
I think before it is all over, we will see this type thing become quite ubiquitous, and the ptb will use it to their advantage. Think, surreal plots like from Terry Gilliam’s film Brazil . Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 8 2006 15:59 utc | 33 Good one (for a US paper) on Lebanon: Analysts: U.S. at root of effort to topple Lebanese government
re: Fourth Generation War Posted by: Bea | Dec 8 2006 16:14 utc | 35 WWII U.S. Internment Camps To Be Restored Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 8 2006 16:21 utc | 36 26 years ago today – R.I.P., John Lennon Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 8 2006 16:52 utc | 37 For those interested in internal Palestinian politics, especially the ongoing efforts to achieve a national unity government, and, by extension, the efforts of the US to exclude Hamas from a Palestinian government, here is a lengthy and interesting piece from Al-Ahram Weekly on the topic. It explains why the Palestinian national unity government, which appeared to be on the verge of collapse when Condi came to call last week, has now been given a new lease on life. Posted by: Bea | Dec 8 2006 17:31 utc | 38 Defense and the National Interest & Global Guerrillas are in my favorites list for keeping up 4th Generation Warfare. Posted by: Jim S | Dec 8 2006 17:45 utc | 39 It happens Uncle (36). Just stick with it and it will eventually stop. Posted by: beq | Dec 8 2006 17:55 utc | 40 @Uncle (36) – I already complained with Typepad – the system is currently nuts.
That was written 12 years before 9/11 – impressive. Mutism (my own, not Billmon’s) takes hold at odd moments, and also relaxes its grip at odd moments. But what then? Is there really anything left to say? Yes, of course, there’s always something to say: that’s why we give the name of “mutism” to this particular kind of silence, where the mind is in good working order, but does not speak its mind….. Posted by: alabama | Dec 8 2006 18:48 utc | 42 always a pleasure when you break from your mutism alabama, much appreciated Posted by: annie | Dec 8 2006 18:58 utc | 43 Reuters: U.S., Iraqi troops seal off Haditha – residents
The Fallujah solution? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 8 2006 19:00 utc | 44 alabama- nice to see you. while I understand your argument, I think ppl can be made to face reality or fantasy…it all depends upon the messages put before them. Posted by: fauxreal | Dec 8 2006 19:27 utc | 46 Funny post over at AMERICAblog on the release of the Ethics Committe report on the Foley scandal:
Posted by: Bea | Dec 8 2006 19:46 utc | 47 bliar has a funny definition of tolerance
Posted by: b real | Dec 8 2006 20:07 utc | 48 Drudge has a headline with no further information that police in Hamburg are looking for Polonium in a flat there. (No, I won’t link to him) Posted by: ww | Dec 8 2006 20:35 utc | 49 Kid & Nabil’s Iraqi Folk Medley Posted by: annie | Dec 8 2006 20:46 utc | 51 Concern that soldiers and Pentagon civilians might appear to be celebrating outgoing Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s last day has caused the date of a Pentagon Christmas party to be changed, according to an item in today’s Washington Post. Posted by: annie | Dec 8 2006 21:12 utc | 52 Bea:
So says the BBC.
The Garver person will say anything to justify whatever measures his organizations undertakes.
The AFP was there. They saw the reality of what had happened. They have born witness. Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 8 2006 23:30 utc | 53 jfl Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 9 2006 0:00 utc | 54 This is your border patrol on crack:
Hey, I’ve heard that Turrists have perfected the multipart Nukular Sandwich Bomb, which masquerades as an innocuous han sarnie or soyburger until mixed with the contents of a can innocently labelled Campbells…
and this they call NAFTA? so what’s the real agenda here? any guesses? Posted by: DeAnander | Dec 9 2006 1:53 utc | 55 Four attempts to post that last before I was able to read the gibberish put out by the “friendly interface”. Posted by: DeAnander | Dec 9 2006 1:55 utc | 56 “Our tolerance is part of what makes Britain, Britain. So conform to it; or don’t come here.” Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 9 2006 2:11 utc | 57 Renowned Cancer Scientist Was Paid by Chemical Firm for 20 Years
The priests are pederasts, the accountants are frauds a la Anderson Little, the journalists are mouthpieces for their corporate masters, the military are hired muscle for big oil, the cream of Bell Labs is at google doing the NSA’s work “right”, medical school drug trials are done in the pay of the “ethical” pharmaceuticals, who have hired the first string at the NIH while they remain at their government positions, and sundry scientists are all in the pay of whomever. Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 9 2006 2:50 utc | 58 balooning trade deficits in europe and US: check this out. I assume the expansion of credit fueling finance bubbles is not disasterously inflationary because our creditors in asia and elsewhere are simply accumulating US dollars without investing the largesse? Posted by: slothrop | Dec 9 2006 3:23 utc | 59 Changes Are Expected in Voting by 2008 Election
It seems to me that the trace of an electron in semiconductor memory might be taken as the definition of evanescence, or perishability, Ms Kaufman.
The point made in (iv) above is the “reification” of ballots that seems to me to be indispensable in any voting system that is to be taken seriously. Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 9 2006 3:49 utc | 61 Saw him play once, sloth, took my mate Rob after we’d been to a yoga class, who couldn’t quite believe it. Posted by: Dismal Science | Dec 9 2006 4:06 utc | 62 “waiting for the US dollar to crash, and will then go into the US market to buy up whatever they can at firesale prices with the devalued greenbacks they’ve already stockpiled” Posted by: pb | Dec 9 2006 4:41 utc | 63 A conservative journalist advocates negotiating Iranian cover for US retreat.
Posted by: small coke | Dec 9 2006 5:34 utc | 65 I’m not sure if anyone added this one on here: Posted by: A | Dec 9 2006 6:46 utc | 66 slothrup, dismal science: Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 9 2006 8:22 utc | 67 @ ww 49 Posted by: dan of steele | Dec 9 2006 9:23 utc | 68 I had a friend who drove 300 miles to see Cecil Taylor play in a bar, it was in the 70’s, Taylor was so impressed they drove that far (the place was practically empty) he sat with them the rest of the evening and went out for late night eats. I never saw Cecil, but was lucky enough to see these guys that in some ways, follow in his & Sun Ra’s steps. Talk about gettin’ the other’s head. Chicago! Posted by: anna missed | Dec 9 2006 9:32 utc | 69 And as an additional reflection, on Cecil Taylor, Sun Ra, the Art Ensemble, and yes, the Iraq Study Group — can you imagine, that after 4 fucking days in the green zone, these pin heads, heard 1 Iraqi pop song, 1 Iraqi poem, saw 1 Iraqi painting, or play — let alone swallowed or digested 1 deep Iraqi thought — observations that are in fact opaque to them, in their own culture. Right. The sick joke continues. Posted by: anna missed | Dec 9 2006 9:56 utc | 70 Man, you guys are smokin tonight! Can remember if I posted this or mot, but, it’s one of my favs… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 9 2006 9:57 utc | 71 beautiful, uncle. it should be forced to sell ketchup in america Posted by: anna missed | Dec 9 2006 10:21 utc | 73 Cecil Taylor! Jesus fucking Christ! Just worked my way backwards on the thread and that guy is possessed! Never heard of em before, damn glad I know now, thanks sloth.. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 9 2006 10:34 utc | 74 4r those whom don’t know,(of the fire that sloth Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 9 2006 10:46 utc | 75
Yeah, loud and clear anna missed, loud and clear… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 9 2006 11:43 utc | 77 from 53 Posted by: dan of steele | Dec 9 2006 11:43 utc | 78 Just rememer folks, it’s all about the edge…Ass pennies!…lol Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 9 2006 12:13 utc | 79 Addendum, Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 9 2006 13:03 utc | 80 The death of the Npn-Proliferation Treaty:
“The Blitcon project is based on three one-dimensional conceits. The first is the absolute supremacy of American culture. Blitcon fiction is orientalism for the 21st century, shifting the emphasis from the supremacy of the west in general to the supremacy of American ideas of freedom. Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 9 2006 14:14 utc | 82 anna missed : Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 9 2006 14:50 utc | 83 bea :
Indeed, what is the use? Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 9 2006 15:27 utc | 84 from the left coast: Posted by: catlady | Dec 9 2006 16:42 utc | 85 re BLitCons – Posted by: jj | Dec 9 2006 17:16 utc | 86 Europeans tend to have the unfortunate expectation that events on the outside should have little or no impact on Arabs/Muslim immigrants/citizens in Europe. Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 9 2006 17:36 utc | 87 Will Europe prepare to freeze when Russia turn off the Gas? Cloned P. asked. Posted by: Noirette | Dec 9 2006 17:46 utc | 88 A posted: Posted by: Noirette | Dec 9 2006 18:08 utc | 89 Fathers and Sons –
This article, posted, by b, was interesting. Posted by: Noirette | Dec 9 2006 18:54 utc | 91 @j_b_c- The masses may have that notion. Leadership knows better. That’s why Israeli State Political Police are fomenting anti-Semitic acts in Europe – to convince their educated classes that Europe is dangerously anti-Semitic so they don’t consider moving back. Similarly, clamping down on MaleMuslims helps discourage their immigration. Posted by: jj | Dec 9 2006 19:14 utc | 92 slothrop & uncle Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 9 2006 21:02 utc | 93 Noirette:
What are you getting at here? If there is a “supply side” and a “demand side” to terrorism is it not fitting that those of us on the receiving end work on cutting “demand”? Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 9 2006 22:59 utc | 96 The personnel on Impressions are John Coltrane, Eric Dolphy, McCoy Tyner (not Cecil Taylor) on piano, Jimmy Garrison on bass and Elvin Jones on drums. Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 10 2006 15:17 utc | 97 I meant “devalued” as in “devalued greenbacks” to be taken proleptically. Posted by: Dismal Science | Dec 11 2006 0:37 utc | 98 two quotes from cecil taylor, taken from the rough guide to jazz (1995 ed.)
Posted by: b real | Dec 11 2006 2:59 utc | 99 imo. the stuff from the late 50′;s from the mosaic boxset bw/ neidlinger is sublime, as is taylor’s stuff w/ the great jimmy lyons. Posted by: slothrop | Dec 11 2006 3:38 utc | 100 |
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