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December 1, 2006
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In Lebanon today:

Sixteen armored carriers, several hundred combat troops and armed police on Friday ringed Prime Minister Fuad Saniora’s office in unprecedented security measures ahead of a massive protest by Hezbollah and its allies aimed at ousting the Western-backed leader.
Opposition groups led by Hezbollah have mobilized their bases for the afternoon protest and were making arrangements to bus supporters from all corners of Lebanon to downtown Beirut for the massive show of popular support.
Heavily armed soldiers and police closed all roads leading to the sprawling complex in downtown, feverishly unfurling barbed wire and placing barricades to prevent any protests from spilling over into the stone-walled, brick-roofed historic building during what some newspapers billed as the “great showdown” between the government and the opposition.

Posted by: Bea | Dec 1 2006 14:29 utc | 1

Hezbollah, allies protest in Beirut

The protesters, which police estimated at 800,000, created a sea of Lebanese flags that blanketed downtown. Hezbollah officials put the number at least 1 million — one-fourth of Lebanon’s population.

Let’s hope this stays peaceful … there are enough people around that would like an escalation into civil war.

Posted by: b | Dec 1 2006 14:30 utc | 2

Jimmy Carter, on CNN, calls the Iraq war “one of the greatest blunders that American presidents have ever made.” He also takes on Wolf Blitzer about the title of his new book, and discusses the situation in Iraq and other matters. (via Huffington Post).

Posted by: Bea | Dec 1 2006 14:35 utc | 3

Keith Olbermann hits another one out of the park, this time on free speech in America:
Special Comment by Keith Olbermann (via rawstory.com)
Well worth watching, as always!

Posted by: Bea | Dec 1 2006 14:48 utc | 4

From a previous thread, and a continuation of Uncle $cam’s War at Home:
And instant dictatorship at home. The laws are already in place to incarcerate opposition for indefinite time. Does anyone have anymore info on those incarceration camps Halliburton was rumored to have got the contract on?
Since the war against Iran can not be “won” except with nukes (and I do not think they are that crazy, but what do I know) the goal (if indeed there is a goal) would have to be domestic. And what to do when the opposition won with more then the machines were rigged for? Coup? But at what is essentially the loss of the american empires fighting machine? And then there is the nuke option…

I cannot recommend more highly George Kenney’s podcast interview with Dr. Kate Brown at ElectricPolitics, simply the best podcast around — it should be part of the weekly diet for all MOA denizens.
Given all the terrible things that the US government is doing at home and abroad, it’s easy to lose perspective — particularly for Americans. To despair or, perhaps more accurately, to despair for the wrong reasons. Dr. Kate Brown, a stunningly brilliant historian (her book A Biography Of No Place won the 2004 George Louis Beer Prize from the American Historical Association) helps us regain perspective by making comparisons to the former USSR, of which there turn out to be many. It’s well worth being reminded that such a system inevitably collapses, though how it collapses may be an open question. And specifically, though we can’t (yet) get into the secret US prison system, NKVD and KGB documents regarding the Soviet Gulag tell us a lot about what we could expect to find. I’m very grateful to Kate for talking with me. I enjoyed this conversation immensely and I love her Chicago accent. Runtime here of about an hour and eleven minutes. Enjoy!

Posted by: Bob M. | Dec 1 2006 16:35 utc | 5

Ah Gore

It is inconceivable to me that Bush would read a warning as stark and as clear [voice angry now] as the one he received on August 6th of 2001, and, according to some of the new histories, he turned to the briefer and said, “Well, you’ve covered your ass.” And never called a follow up meeting. Never made an inquiry. Never asked a single question. To this day, I don’t understand it.

snip

[Practically screaming now] But dammit, whatever happened to the concept of accountability for catastrophic failure? This administration has been by far the most incompetent, inept, and with more moral cowardice, and obsequiousness to their wealthy contributors, and obliviousness to the public interest of any administration in modern history, and probably in the entire history of the country!

Posted by: beq | Dec 1 2006 17:33 utc | 6

Excellent Bob M.
I recently sent a friend a link on the Total institution from answers.com, in it it discribes Total institutions as social microcosmos dictated by hegemony and clear hierarchy. Total institutions include some boarding schools, concentration camps, prisons, mental institutions and boot camps. But wait, that is only the begining, the ones you can see.
I suggest we look at this transmogrification as if it were a continuum, if we take it a logical step further, you can see the continuing Panopticon like institutions and systems you can’t normally see through this lense. Answers.com points out that, “..sociologists [anthropologist’s and other scientists have also recently pointed out that] tourist venues such as cruise ships and theme parks are acquiring many of the characteristics of total institutions. Tourists may not be aware that they are being controlled, even constrained, but the environment has been designed to subtly manipulate the behavior of patrons.”
What about shopping malls , college campuses, gated communities, retirement communities, city/State government e.g. the DMV etc, the Repressive State Apparatus (RSA).
I have stated before, it seems as if we are covertly and methodically being herded into a mental plantation, by a system that has gladly inherited the worst of both the Soviet and Nazi germany type authoritarian means of control and governship.
A “quasi-Soviet/facist/totalitarian system.” A “Kafkaesque” bureaucratic i.e. State induced non- static labyrinth. Whose rules change only for the elite and not the governed.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 1 2006 18:20 utc | 7

On 9/11 Clinton and Gore were both Aus.
Bill Clinton went on a surprise trip to Australia, without family, aides, or anyone. The trip was announced on 7 Sept, much to the astonishment of the Aussie Press. He was to be a consultant to the Madison Press (huh?), speak there to about 30 people.
Gore went to an Internet conference in Austria:
A. GORE: Vienna, Austria. There were some young Internet whizzes from Europe there who patched up a connection through the Internet that enabled us to communicate, and Tipper assured me that everybody was all right. I knew right away it was Osama bin Laden. Anybody in…

KING: Bill Clinton, on this show, a couple weeks ago — he was in Australia — said as soon as he saw it, he said, Bin Laden.
A. GORE: Absolutely.
KING: You said it too?

A. GORE: Said it to the people there with me. No question about it.
cnn
From raw story, Nov. 2006: “It is inconceivable to me” Gore continued,” that Bush would read a warning as stark and as clear [voice angry now] as the one he received on August 6th of 2001 …etc.” (See beq above.)
Well, Gore didn’t ask any questions either, did he, post facto?
He made up his mind right away, as he is at pains to point out, so blatantly that even Larry King cuts him off, and feels he has to add forcefully no question?
Gore said and did nothing until it became politically acceptable to blame Bush for lack of foresight or proper planning, always easy with hindsight, but more importantly, a trivial criticism that is unanswerable and directs attention to the ‘before’ (intelligence failures, etc. the incompetence spiel) away from the ‘after’ which accepts the scenario of muslim fanatics, etc. which Gore upheld immediately.

Posted by: Noirette | Dec 1 2006 18:56 utc | 8

Nuremberg trials, 21 Nazis to learn fate at end of 10-month trial (partial newsreel)
youtube: 21 Nazi Chiefs Guilty, Nuremberg Trials. 1946/10/08 (1946)

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 1 2006 19:35 utc | 9

more info about the vid game mercenaries 2: venezuela in flames & bono
Reality Check: “Mercenaries 2”

As you may know, Bono of U2 recently formed an investment firm called Elevation Partners, named after a famous U2 song, “Elevation”. Elevation Partners invested $300 million in Pandemic Studios. They also recently bought a major interest in Forbes, again for $300 million. Investment in potentially lucrative business ventures seems like a good business move.
For Bono, “Time Person of the Year” for his humanitarian, anti-poverty, pro-peace efforts, such investments may be somewhat more problematic.
On November 18, William Langley of the Telegraph, when describing Bono’s recent actions, including the moving of his corporate home from Dublin to the Netherlands to evade taxes, wrote, “This debacle was followed by news that Bono was buying a large chunk of Forbes, the American business magazine, founded by the eccentric, Right-wing publisher Malcolm Forbes, which styles itself “The Capitalist Tool”. The stake, costing a reported $250 million, was acquired through Elevation Partners (named after a U2 song), a sophisticated private equity vehicle co-owned by Bono and a group of wealthy California-based investors.
While all this may be no more than astute financial management for a super-rich, middle-aged man with three homes, including a £15 million, three-storey New York penthouse, it somehow fails to cast a warming glow of affinity around Bono’s heavily publicised forays into the world of the starving and wretched.” (“Profile Bono“, Telegraph.co.uk, 2006).
It is clear that Bono’s hypocrisy, when it comes to producing a videogame that seemingly contradicts all of the principles he professes to defend, is a pattern and not unique to “Mercenaries 2”. Therefore, one concludes that this is further evidence that Bono is nothing more than a well-packaged and well-paid frontman for significant corporate interests.
This helps to put “Mercenaries 2” into perspective. With the backing of Bono and his partners at Elevation, the goal is to produce a piece of propaganda that helps to further corporate interests in Latin America, and make a little money in the lucrative videogame market along the way.

Pandemic’s current project, set for release in 2007, is called “Mercenaries 2: World in Flames”. However, it is not really about the vaguely labeled “world”.

This so-called game depicts the invasion and total destruction of Venezuela. The objectives of the game are to assassinate the President, described as a “power hungry tyrant”, and take over the oil industry. The level of destruction that takes place in the game draws comparisons to what happened when the United States bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If you have reviewed the game website, you will have seen that Caracas is reduced to ashes. It is presumed that the same death and destruction extends to all regions of the country.

Venezuelans viewing the game will instantly recognize their neighborhoods, famous landmarks, and will also recognize that the purpose of the game is to slaughter thousands, if not millions, of innocent people in order to turn the oil industry in Venezuela over to corporate interests.

Posted by: b real | Dec 1 2006 20:39 utc | 10

Interesting catch B Real, after all what do you make of a saint that wears shades in the dark?

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Dec 1 2006 21:08 utc | 11

In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease
In the navy
Come on now, people, make a stand
In the navy, in the navy
Can’t you see we need a hand
In the navy
Come on, protect the motherland

— the village people
secrecynews: http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2006/12/navy_mind_control.html

U.S. Navy research on “mind control techniques” cannot be performed on human subjects without the authorization of the Under Secretary of the Navy, according to a new Navy Instruction (pdf).
“The Under Secretary of the Navy (UNSECNAV) is the Approval Authority for research involving … severe or unusual intrusions, either physical or psychological, on human subjects (such as consciousness-altering drugs or mind-control techniques).”
The nature and scope of any such Navy research could not be immediately discovered.
See “Human Research Protection Program,” Secretary of the Navy Instruction 3900.39D, November 6, 2006 [at section 7(a)(2), page 9].

Mind Control: a Navy school for assassins
By Harry V. Martin and David Caul

A U.S. Navy psychologist, who claims that the Office of Naval Intelligence had taken convicted murderers from military prisons, used behavior modification techniques on them, and then relocated them in American embassies throughout the world. Just prior to that time, the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee had censured the CIA for its global political assassination plots, including plots against Fidel Castro. The Navy psychologist was Lt. Commander Thomas Narut of the U.S. Regional Medical Center in Naples, Italy. The information was divulged at an Oslo NATO conference of 120 psychologists from the eleven nation alliance. According to Dr. Narut, the U.S. Navy was an excellent place for a researcher to find “captive personnel” whom they could could use as guinea pigs in experiments. The Navy provided all the funding necessary, according to Narut.
Dr. Narut, in a question and answer session with reporters from many nations, revealed how the Navy was secretly programming large numbers of assassins. He said that the men he had worked with for the Navy were being prepared for commando-type operations, as well as covert operations in U.S. embassies worldwide. He described the men who went through his program as “hit men and assassins” who could kill on command.

gitmo is a naval base, am i right?

Posted by: b real | Dec 1 2006 22:27 utc | 12

What about shopping malls , college campuses, gated communities, retirement communities, city/State government e.g. the DMV etc, the Repressive State Apparatus (RSA)
was it you uncle that posted the news story recently of the person arrested at a mall for refusing to take off the anti bush t shirt he had just purchased at the mall?
of course we are being indoctrinated. the panopticom of course is the freakiest in its frankness. i can still recollect the chills i got when first reading about 24/7 visitors to the central viewing region that one is suppose to live in w/their families, the veiwing to be concieved as entertainment value. can one imagine subjecting ones children to being raised to veiw people as monkeys in a zoo?

Posted by: annie | Dec 1 2006 22:39 utc | 13

Continuing on my theme from above…
Six Questions on the American “Gulag” for Historian Kate Brown
And
1 In 32 American Adults In Jail, On Probation Or Parole At The End Of Last Year…

A record 7 million people — or one in every 32 American adults — were behind bars, on probation or on parole by the end of last year, according to the Justice Department. Of those, 2.2 million were in prison or jail, an increase of 2.7 percent over the previous year, according to a report released Wednesday.
More than 4.1 million people were on probation and 784,208 were on parole at the end of 2005. Prison releases are increasing, but admissions are increasing more.

Note: America has the highest percentage of its population in jail of any industrialized nation on the planet. As a percentage of population we make more people criminals than China, Vietnam, Russia, or Cuba combined.. however, that is not my point, my point is the unseen structural device parameters of the panopticon-like intracacies of the system which is beyond the scope of the offically incarcerated or those in legal hot water, i.e. the rest of us.
More to come…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 1 2006 23:11 utc | 14

Bush and top Iraqi Shia to meet

US President George W Bush is to meet the most powerful Iraqi Shia politician in Washington on Monday, officials say.
Mr Bush is expected to discuss national reconciliation with the leader of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (Sciri), Abdel Aziz al-Hakim.
The group holds a majority of seats in the Iraqi parliament, and its former military wing has been accused of involvement in sectarian violence.
As part of his attempts to reach out across Iraq’s religious divide, President Bush will also hold talks with Mr Hashimi, a top Sunni leader.

So… the Saudi/Sunni Axis talk is really just cover for the upcoming US-Shia Axis negotiations? Or… the Shia talk is cover for the Sunni action?
Or George is just gonna meet them all and then let his gut instincts take over, or flip a coin.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 1 2006 23:14 utc | 15

foreign policy in focus: No Clear Victory for Left in Nicaragua

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No Clear Victory for Left in Nicaragua
Alejandro Bendaña | November 29, 2006
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Does Daniel Ortega’s presidential win in Nicaragua mark yet another victory for the Latin American Left? Not quite. One might first ask what is the Left, what does it mean to be Left in 2006, and what does it mean to be Left in 2006 in Nicaragua. This is not to fall into a post-modernist relativist trap, because indeed there are permanent “indicators,” as it were, that throw light on the social and historical significance of the return of the Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) to power.

The bizarre question however is whether both the U.S. government and the Sandinista voters are both making a big mistake in believing that the present FSLN under the leadership (and control) of Daniel Ortega can or wishes to break with the neoliberal economic model. This indeed may be the acid test of what is really the Left (and what is not Leftist at all or is simply sort of Leftist). Such a distinction needs to be made particularly among those, principally outside of Nicaragua, that annoyingly are either welcoming or warning against the spread of elected “Left” governments in Latin America.

Posted by: b real | Dec 1 2006 23:40 utc | 16

Democracy is a simple system, so simple that elections were successfully handled in Athens before the time of Christ, In the twenty-first century we get
Diebold and their knock off’s, Traveling Americans Get Terrorism Scores, etc… Now the FBI wants to expand imformation given to prospective employer’s for profiling personality traits, political or otherwise. Ever been to a protest gathering or demostration? The proposal such as this: Employers May Get Access to Applicants’ Minor ‘Offenses’ which is ripe for abuse. Ahh, back in 73 you were a democrat. No job for you. Uh, Mr. Joe public I see you have been with us for 12 years, however, we can not approve your application for advancement because we see that in 1981 you voted against the ol’ gipper. Your medical records report you had a emergency room visit once for…
Anthropologist Laura Nader calls such things as this, the authoritarian and coercive character of law under “coercive harmony.” Where everyone has a place and a label.
Thomas Jefferson once called “legerdemain tricks upon paper. Today we have tricks upon data.
When the admirable Tiberius upon becoming emperor, received a message from the Senate in which the conscript fathers assured him that whatever legislation he wanted would be automatically passed by them, he sent back word that this was outrageous. “Suppose the emperor is ill or mad or incompetent?” He returned their message. They sent it again. His response: “How eager you are to be slaves.
— Edward Gibbon, History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 2 2006 0:06 utc | 17

A very, very good article about Iraq by Azmi Bishara:

A selective memory
(snip)
The identity crisis in the eastern Arab world is a modern phenomenon, not the extension of a condition with deep historical roots. Nor are nationalism and state- and nation-building concepts that conflict with the existence of tribal and sectarian affiliations; they are answers to the challenges of building a modern society. The problem in Iraq, today, is that the country’s tribal and sectarian structure is being forced on Iraqis as a mold for political affiliation. People aren’t born as a nation; nations are built. And in order to build a nation you don’t go delving into history, when there was no state or nation and when all that existed were tribes and sects, as some Orientalists do.
(snip)
Today’s Iraqi occupation ideologues have concocted three super-simplistic myths to which they have reduced contemporary Iraq history: a Sunni- based Baathist regime ruled over the Shia, the oppressed Shia appealed to the US and Britain for help, and the resistance to the occupation is really a sectarian war between the Sunni and Shia. Their need to invent a fiction in order to cover up their failure and to suggest that Iraq either has to go the way they say or else, is not all that different from the fiction of weapons of mass destruction, the major difference being that they are now producing a real weapon of mass destruction aimed at Iraq and the eastern Arab world.
(snip)
Iraqi governments have clamped down brutally on all opposition and everyone whose allegiance was suspect. The victims of repression are legion, and of all sects. Mohamed Ayish, Adnan Hussein, General Mohamed Mazloum Al-Dulaimi, Shaker Faza and Raji Al-Takriti were all Sunni.
The first religious figure to have died as the result of torture was Sheikh Abdul-Aziz Al-Badri Al-Samaraai, a Sunni. Mohamed Baqir Al-Sadr was executed ten years later. Moreover, for those who care to remember, the Sunni and Shia fundamentalist offensive was directed against the “secularist regime” in Iraq and the Iranian media constantly reminded its public that the two assassinations were connected and proof of the Baathist regime’s war against Islam, both Sunni and Shia. But does anybody in the Iranian media mention Al-Badri today? Similarly forgotten are the armed confrontations against the government in Falluja in the 1970s (The so-called “Dervish Uprising”) and the Ramadi uprising during the funeral of Mohamed Mazloum.
Evidently, the rule of political sectarianism and the preparation of the Arab world for the latest colonialist weapon, requires partial collective memory alongside partial collective amnesia.

(Found via the Lebanese blog Remarkz.

Posted by: Alamet | Dec 2 2006 0:28 utc | 18

Livinenko redux…it appears that the radioactive poison can be traced to its origin.
This material, polonium-210, is primarily an alpha emitter, but it has about 1 to 2 percent of beta gamma activity in it, usually from contaminants or pollutants. A little bit of decay activity produces beta gamma. So what you have is a spectral signature. That means you can tell when it was put in the reactor to be generated. The first thing you can get from decay, from its strength, is, you can trace back and say, “Ah, OK, this was in a reactor 15 days ago, or 28 days ago.”
It is possible to get a signature for the lab that separates [the polonium] from the other radioactive materials that are generated. If you have a signature for that particular lab, then you could identify it. Now, because this would have come from a military type of establishment, it’s unlikely that other countries would have a signature of that establishment.

(and, although available for purchase online, the amt. needed would have cost a million or so and would thus be traceable from commercial purchases.)
and from The Guardian
Mario Scaramella was found to have ingested a potentially fatal dose of the substance and was being treated at a London hospital last night.
…Last night it emerged that Mr Litvinenko’s wife, Marina, had also tested positive for polonium-210. Tests showed that she had ingested a small amount, which posed no immediate health risk and a “very small” long-term risk.
While the amount detected in Mr Scaramella’s body is considerably less than was found in Mr Litvinenko’s, it presents a grave threat to his health.
The Health Protection Agency (HPA) said “high quantities” of polonium-210 had been found. “The quantities are such that they are likely to be of concern for his immediate health,” a spokesman said.

Again, from the Salon link above:
John Large…spent some 20 years as a research fellow with the British government’s Atomic Energy Authority before starting his own firm, Large & Associates, where, among other things, he was responsible for risk analysis during the salvage of the sunken Russian nuclear submarine Kursk. Large told Salon he believes the poisoning of Litvinenko was too sophisticated — potentially involving radical innovations like nanotechnology — to be the work of anyone not connected with a state. He also thinks the sushi that has been the focus of public speculation about the case may not have been the means used to kill Litvinenko.
Large thinks the poisoning was produced by inhalation. In which case, the Scaramello poisoning issue is more complicated. But Large ultimately allows that he is speculating on the way in which this poison was delivered.
Still just speculation at this point, but it seems it is more likely to be able to track the origin of the radioactive substance.
Rogue FSB agents/police who have been accused of crimes because of Chechnya seem to be the primary suspects.
In the meantime, the letters from another former FSB agent now in jail in Russia that Scaramello delivered– which were supposedly warnings — are now under examination.
As far as motive — Large speculates this would serve as a very chilling warning to any dissident, no matter where they lived, if the FSB wanted to keep ppl from investigating their activities, again, esp. in Chechnya. Again, this is not an usual tactic for the former KGB now FSB.

Posted by: fauxreal | Dec 2 2006 2:09 utc | 19

@annie #13 and b real’s #12
Just saw your post, yeah, aninmals in a zoo is about right, animals whom do tricks with DARPA sponsorship and manipulation of cognitive processes and Pavlovian conditioning on the masses. I have spoken before about the Delphi Technique, where the general public are more likely to support these idea’s because they are hoodwinked into believing that they are involved in the process and are part of the power structure. A false notion of controland oversite. However, they are not. Most are not even aware of the stratification.
Further, Lieutenant Colonel Grossman describes how modern armies, using Pavlovian and operant conditioning, have developed ways to overcome humans’ natural aversion to killing people .
He argues this conditioning is responsible for the increase in post-traumatic stress syndrome, public anhedonia, population and community apathy. He further asserts that contemorary society, especially the media, has replicated the army’s conditioning techniques, leading to a more violent society and rising (controlled?) murder rates.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 2 2006 3:02 utc | 20

chris floyd’s take down of tom friedman’s “ten months or ten years” ends with a rather chilling assessment of not just friedman but also the american politic in general:

So there you go. Iraq was already ruined before we got there. We didn’t have a blessed thing to do with it. Certainly, the “war of choice” launched by the knowing lies of Bush and Blair (“the intelligence is being fixed around the policy”) has no connection whatsoever to the deep hole filled with broken pieces that is Iraq today. And if it turns out that we really are too wimpy to close our hearts to pity and put these ragheads in their place once and for all, we can still leave behind the hellhole — and those 600,000 dead — with a clear conscience. For we have not failed. (Thomas Friedman has not failed.) We were not wrong. (Thomas Friedman was not wrong.) It was all the fault of those “progress-resistant,” broken-down, hive-minded, barbaric Arabs. We can either slaughter them by the millions, or flush them down the toilet. There is no other way.
This, ladies and gentleman, is what passes for Establishment thought on the most respected newspaper in the land. This complete and utter moral perversion — like unto an act of sexual congress with the beasts of the field — is now the conventional wisdom of the chattering classes, the “public intellectuals,” and the powerful elites whom they so cravenly serve. This blood-flecked drivel — a precise echo of the genocidal fury being voiced on what once was once considered the lunatic fringes of the far right — is now at the heart of American political life.
How many more people will have to die to keep the warmongers from colliding with the enormity of their crimes? What child will be ripped to shreds tonight — and tomorrow night — and every night afterward, for “ten months or ten years,” to keep Thomas Friedman snug and cozy in the gilded palace of his endless self-regard?

i fear he is not wrong.

Posted by: conchita | Dec 2 2006 3:42 utc | 21

Some cars used in Iraq bombings hail from Texas Imagine that…/snark
I posted about this a while back, however this is the first a msm has reported on it. Sectarian violence built Ford tough.(tm)?
Also see, Robert Fisk: Seen through a Syrian lens, ‘unknown Americans’ are provoking civil war in Iraq and SAS men get £100,000 to bribe Iraqi fighters
Go ahead and connect the dots…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 2 2006 3:48 utc | 22

i have never hear of this delphi technique before but i recognize it. this was used at a community meeting here in seattle by the parks department when they wanted to tear down the skate park that was well loved and well used by all the neighorhood kids. there were possibly 500 people present all overwhelmingly in favor of keeping the skatepark. after a question and answer period we were asked to give our opinions which were recorded on large sheets of paper on the wall. the obvious omission about the concensus was that once an opinion was recorded every other person w/the same opinion was directed to the opinion already appearing on the paper, thereby signifying there opinion was represented. after we were divided into large groups, each one to cover one of the topics preventing anyone from participating in more than one topic. none of the topics were as important as the elephant in the room, which was that the community wanted to keep the skate park and the parks department wanted another fountain/business walkthru/cement and bench affair.
many people at the meeting noticed we were being hoodwinked. in retrospect, this delphi process was what was going on. the community just kept protesting. luckily an election was approaching and the mayor came to our rescue. 2 years behind schedule but we got our way. although they demolished the skatepark when they built the new park they did include another. just not as cool.
a delphi /military google link.. why am i not surprised

The Delphi method was developed, over a period of years, at the Rand Corporation at the beginning of the cold war to forecast the impact of technology on warfare. [1] A number of events influenced the development.
Structuring of information flow
The initial contributions from the experts are collected in the form of answers to questionnaires and their comments to these answers. The panel director controls the interactions among the participants by processing the information and filtering out irrelevant content. This avoids the negative effects of face-to-face panel discussions and solves the usual problems of group dynamics.
from the wideband link
Estimation session
The moderator leads the team through a series of iterative steps to gain consensus on the estimates. At the start of the iteration, the moderator charts the estimates on the whiteboard so the estimators can see the range of estimates. The team resolves issues and revises estimates without revealing specific numbers.

Posted by: annie | Dec 2 2006 4:27 utc | 23

from uncle’s link on stolen cars from texas winding up in car bombings in iraq

Inspector John E. Lewis, deputy assistant director of the FBI for counterterrorism, told the Globe that the investigation hasn’t yielded any evidence that the vehicles were stolen specifically for car bombings. But there is evidence, he said, that the cars were smuggled from the United States as part of a widespread criminal network that includes terrorists and insurgents.

heh. maybe. but a more plausible explanation may point to the global shadow economy, those informal exchange networks that operate outside of formally-acknowleged markets (& only a fraction of which necessarily involve illegal commodities or nefarious characters). the anthropologist carolyn nordstrom has been writing on her discoveries made in field work in war zones for awhile now. from her last book, 2004’s shadows of war: violence, power, and international profiteering in the twenty-first century, nordstrom writes that

While arms and luxury black-market items such as drugs and precious resources are the classic examples of extra-state exchanges, it’s important to keep in mind that traders carrying rice or cigarettes outside of state-licensed channels are as basic to, and can be as lucrative as, shadow enterprises like battle-ready solar-generated laptop computers or chemical weapons.
The example of businesspeople commandeering aid flights and setting international currency exchange rates … shows how basic goods and luxury items like gems link within larger international exchange networks ranging from armaments through high-tech computers and industrial equipment to core energy sources. The lines between state and extra-state power can easily blur here. Smugglers comandeering INGO (international NGO) relief planes may carry sanctioned telecommunications equipment, VCRs, and stolen cars, yet by day these marketeers are often upstanding members and officials of the country. In fact, the returns on such “enterprises” can supply the wealth, industrial base, and influence to gain political office.

nordstrom was refering to an earlier explanation she received from an ex-military pilot working as cargo pilot flying USAID, UN, INGO, etc relief supplies in some war-torn country in africa on why the planes somedays were not available

A group of businessmen requisitioned the plane for this day. They do business, big business. Big enough to be able to take this relief plane, cancel five or six emergency relief runs, and use the plane for their own purposes. This time, they are flying goods into the interior.
It may seem like the towns have been bombed and attacked to a standstill, that the entire population has been reduced to hungry refugees without the means to buy even food. But big businessmen, big not just along the lines of this province and this country, but big along international lines, they live and work and run businesses all over the country.

Business goods, telecommunications equipment, war-related supplies, [stolen] motor vehicles, VCRs, luxury items, precious resources, food, cigarettes, liquor, petrol, you name it. They provide the latest movie releases not even available on video in the regular stores yet, and they provide the sets to play them, the generators to run them, the petrol to fuel them, and the jobs to get the money to pay for all this. You can get a beautiful Mercendes Benz, or perhaps you prefer a Land Rover, here in the middle of the bush in the middle of this war. You can order the parts you need to repair it when it hits a land mine.

the shadow economy has always been around, though the networks are now more globally interconnected, ala castells’ network enterprise, than ever. nordstrom’s next book, global outlaws: crime, money, and power in the contemporary world, due out in june, looks to continue her advances on the topic. amongst all the pillaging, no-bid reconstruction contracts, entrepreneurialism, and egregious profiteering taking place around iraq since the occupation, surely there’s a better explanation for stolen cars arriving in iraq than “insurgents” having the time/luxury to scheme up a smuggling ring for stealing american cars from american cities – “Terrorism specialists think Iraqi insurgents prefer American stolen cars because they tend to be larger, blend in more easily with the convoys of US government and private contractors, and are harder to identify as stolen”. why not steal the ones they’re already using in iraq? big savings on the freight. more dough for IEDs, mortars, and all those other items whitefellas are no doubt also trying to sell them.
so, when the MSM stenographers try to sell you lines like

US law enforcement and intelligence agencies are increasingly finding links between violent Islamic extremists groups and vast criminal enterprises such as drug trafficking, weapons smuggling, and car theft.

and

James G. Conway, Jr., legal attache at the US Embassy in Mexico City, told the Globe that ”where you find terrorists you often find some kind of criminal activity.”

take it w/ a huge frickin’ line of blow

Posted by: b real | Dec 2 2006 6:04 utc | 24

upside down world: Washington Seeks Stronger Ties with Latin American Militaries

President Bush, concerned by Washington’s waning influence in Latin America as well as the current leftist shift in many of the region’s capitals, signed a waiver on Oct. 2 that authorizes the U.S. military to resume certain types of training to a number of militaries in the region.
This will affect eleven countries in Latin America and the Caribbean who were barred from receiving International Military and Education Training (IMET) and other types of military aid as a result of the “American Service-Members Protection Act” (APSA). The bill, passed in Congress in 2002, was intended to punish countries not signing bilateral agreements that would prohibit the prosecution of U.S. citizens at the International Criminal Court—an institution that the Bush Administration is opposed to.
The Act had critics in Congress, the State Department and Defense Department, not because it was perceived as a bullying tactic, but because it diminished U.S. influence in the region.
“[IMET] allows us to share military doctrine and strategy and develop relationships with mid level officers, captains, majors and colonels who they think in 5-10 years will be running the military,” said Adam Isacson, Director of Programs at the Center for International Policy in Washington D.C.. “It helps provide access and influence to key players in the region.”

Now that the restrictions are lifted, military personnel from countries that include Bolivia, Paraguay, Ecuador and Peru can start attending classes again at the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, formerly called the School of the Americas, as well as over 100 military training institutions in the U.S.

a brief jaunt in the wayback machine w/ mister peabody & his boy walter lafeber

When a mexican official learned that the United States planned to give special training to Latin American officers, he said, “Give me the names of those first 60 students, and I’ll pick your presidents in Latin America for the next 10 years.” Delesseps Morrison, Kennedy’s ambassador to the OAS, responded that Latin America would indeed by fortunate if these officers did become the future leaders of their countries. The Mexican official, however, was closer to the truth than Morrison. Between 1961 and 1966, the military overthrew nine Latin American governments, including Guatemala’s and Hondura’s in 1963. In many cases, civilian conservatives urged the military to act before elections brought undesirable liberals to power, or before planned Alliance programs threatened the oligarch’s interests. The School of the Americans became known as the School of the Golpes.

Posted by: b real | Dec 2 2006 6:34 utc | 25

GSA Chief Seeks to Cut Budget For Audits

The new chief of the U.S. General Services Administration is trying to limit the ability of the agency’s inspector general to audit contracts for fraud or waste and has said oversight efforts are intimidating the workforce, according to government documents and interviews.
GSA Administrator Lurita Alexis Doan, a Bush political appointee and former government contractor, has proposed cutting $5 million in spending on audits and shifting some responsibility for contract reviews to small, private audit contractors.

The GSA is responsible for managing about $56 billion worth of contracts each year for the departments of Defense and Homeland Security and other agencies.
Doan compared Miller and his staff to terrorists, according to a copy of the notes obtained by The Washington Post.
“There are two kinds of terrorism in the US: the external kind; and, internally, the IGs have terrorized the Regional Administrators,” Doan said, according to the notes.

Before joining the GSA in August 2005, Miller served as a federal prosecutor and worked on the government’s case against al-Qaeda terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui.

Sourcewatch:

According to the April 6, 2006, White House news release, “Ms. Doan most recently served as President and Chief Executive Officer of New Technology Management, Inc., a surveillance technology company that she founded in 1990.”

“Lurita Doan founded her small IT company by walking into a Kinko’s store with $25 to print business cards and stationery. That was 13 years ago. Today [2005], her company provides turnkey solutions including design, installation and maintenance of all secure surveillance technology currently being deployed at over 85% of all the Land Border Ports of Entry on the US-Canadian and US-Mexican borders. In 2004, Lurita’s company, New Technology Management, Inc. (NTMI), will perform on government contracts valued at $214 million.”

Smells like a bigger story is behind this …

Posted by: b | Dec 2 2006 6:56 utc | 26

1 in every 32 U.S. adults behind bars, on probation or on parole in 2005

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 2 2006 7:03 utc | 27

b real :
A simpler explanation of the US cars used as bombs in Iraq is that the CIA shipped ’em to their operatives there.
From $cam’s link :

WASHINGTON — The FBI’s counterterrorism unit has launched a broad investigation of US-based theft rings after discovering that some of the vehicles used in deadly car bombings in Iraq, including attacks that killed US troops and Iraqi civilians, were probably stolen in the United States, according to senior government officials.
Investigators believe the cars were stolen by local car thieves in US cities, then smuggled to waiting ships at ports in Los Angeles, Seattle, and Houston, among other cities.

Who can cut red tape at the port, such as “Hey, this car’s stolen!”, better than the CIA?

Cracking the car theft rings and tracing the cars could help identify the leaders of insurgent forces in Iraq and shut down at least one of the means they use to attack the US-led coalition and the Iraqi government, the officials said.

So you can bet that it will never happen.

Terrorism specialists think Iraqi insurgents prefer American stolen cars because they tend to be larger, blend in more easily with the convoys of US government and private contractors, and are harder to identify as stolen.

Yes they are harder to identify, and readily available to an outfit like the CIA.

”As you go back to the chop shop guy, he may not know the end user is some terrorist, but who are his contacts?”

Someone who pays cash and has no trouble with law enforcement types.
Like the alternative explanations for the ease with which the mass murder of 9/11 took place, incompetence vs benign neglect, we can never know the answers to these questions without rigorous, impartial investigation.
And there will be no investigation as long as folks like GSA Administrator Lurita Alexis Doan are there to crush them before they start.
The auditors are terrorists. Can this not be the final, absurd end of that particular tack?

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 2 2006 7:36 utc | 28

Creating many, many Bin Ladens … it worked so well the last time …
DoD Eyes Ex-CIA Strategist For Key Post

The Pentagon may tap the principal architect of CIA efforts to drive the Soviet army from Afghanistan in the 1980s to oversee the Defense Department’s special operations policy and conventional military transformation efforts, according to defense officials.
Sources say the White House is considering Michael Vickers, the director of strategic studies at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, to be assistant secretary of defense for special operations/low-intensity conflict and interdependent capabilities, a newly designed post that is expected to have wide-ranging influence in shaping counterterrorism strategies and weapon system investment decisions.

A decorated Army Green Beret officer, Vickers spent a decade in uniform preparing to wage an insurgency behind Soviet lines before moving to the CIA, where he applied his expertise to craft a plan for equipping and training the Afghan mujahideen that helped eventually drive Moscow from Afghanistan in 1989. He accomplished this as a junior intelligence officer, in his early thirties.

Posted by: b | Dec 2 2006 8:48 utc | 29

regarding “b real” @ #10
Actually, Bono’s Elevation Partners snagged developer BioWare (best known for the their Baldar’s Gate/Forgotten Realms games) and Pandemic, then consolidated them both into one game developing goliath. Reading the information from your link regarding their forthcoming Mercenaries 2 centering around the invasion and total destruction of Venezuela makes me downright sick.
Here I was thinking the videogamers in my age demographic — who will eventually be the largest voting bloc in America in just few short years — would soon question everything they’ve been brainwashed to believe by our sorry corporate media like “Why should I be pissed at The Dixie Chicks, Hugo Chavez, etc. ?!?” but it looks like Bono’s band of game developers want to use the plot of Mercenaries 2 as an engine to completely destroy any pretense of original and independent thought.

Posted by: Sizemore | Dec 2 2006 9:22 utc | 30

surprise … Another Russian has joined the club now –
Doctors treating former Russian Prime Minister Yegor Gaidar, who is gravely ill, believe he was poisoned, an aide said today.
“Doctors don’t see a natural reason for the poisoning and they have not been able to detect any natural substance known to them” in Gaidar’s body, spokesman Valery Natarov said.
“So obviously we’re talking about poisoning (and) it was not natural poisoning.”
Gaidar, 50, one of the leaders of a liberal opposition party who served briefly as prime minister in the 1990s under President Boris Yeltsin, began vomiting and fainted during a conference in Ireland on Friday, and was rushed into intensive care at a hospital.
link
When they’re talking about elites poisoned perhaps by semi-official enemies, they’ll discuss poisoning; but somehow they neglected to mention it when Arafat was obviously poisoned by people apparently in bed w/xUS elites…curious how that works out…

Posted by: jj | Dec 2 2006 9:36 utc | 31

@ b real re #24 & jfl #28 et al…
excellent points, all, and thanks b real for the anthro info. I have a bias for anthropological research. It seems looking through the anthro lense gets us closer to the truth with it’s methods and theories than
most pedagogy imo.
Completely off topic?, and just a arrant thought, but, what ever happened to porter goss’s buddy, “Dusty” Fargo third from top CIA investigation? hmmmm?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 2 2006 10:00 utc | 32

Interesting jj, I just finished reading this:Why You Should Never Use Your Shoe-Phone After Stepping In Polonium-210 right before seeing you link.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 2 2006 10:05 utc | 33

Bill Moyers speech at West Point on “The Meaning of Freedom.” I repeat: These are not palatable topics for soldiers about to go to war; I would like to speak of sweeter things. But freedom means we must face reality: “You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.” Free enough, surely, to think for yourselves about these breaches of contract that crudely undercut the traditions of an army of free men and women who have bound themselves voluntarily to serve the nation even unto death.
I have spoken before, I’d love to see him run for president, not because I think he has a chance in hell of winning, because he doesn’t , however, I think he would bring the level of debate up several notches beyond the pepsi and coke game.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 2 2006 10:27 utc | 34

The United States, Israel, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, and Palau voted against all six resolutions.
The world is a funny farm right now.

In a separate resolution topping 150 “yes” votes declared any attempt to impose Israel’s laws, jurisdiction and administration on Jerusalem illegal, and therefore null and void. It was approved by a vote of 157-6 with 10 abstentions.
Two other resolutions called on Israel to withdraw from the Palestinian territories in the West Bank and from the Golan Heights.
The resolutions are not legally binding – as Security Council resolutions are – but they are a reflection of world opinion.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Dec 2 2006 11:22 utc | 35

The world is a funny farm right now.
hahahaha, funny farm indeed,
New GSA chief wants to cut audit funds, reduce oversight; calls Inspector General, staff terrorists

Administrator Lurita Alexis Doan is trying to cut wasteful spending at the General Services Administration, according to a spokesman. (By Sarah L. Voisin — The Washington Post)
The new chief of the U.S. General Services Administration is trying to limit the ability of the agency’s inspector general to audit contracts for fraud or waste and has said oversight efforts are intimidating the workforce, according to government documents and interviews.
GSA Administrator Lurita Alexis Doan, a Bush political appointee and former government contractor, has proposed cutting $5 million in spending on audits and shifting some responsibility for contract reviews to small, private audit contractors.
Doan also has chided Inspector General Brian D. Miller for not going along with her attempts to streamline the agency’s contracting efforts. In a private staff meeting Aug. 18, Doan said Miller’s effort to examine contracts had “gone too far and is eroding the health of the organization,” according to notes of the meeting written by an unidentified participant from the Office of Inspector General (OIG).
The GSA is responsible for managing about $56 billion worth of contracts each year for the departments of Defense and Homeland Security and other agencies.
Doan compared Miller and his staff to terrorists, according to a copy of the notes obtained by The Washington Post….

another first class Bush appointee…/snark
All this on the heels of Antonia Juhasz’s report of corruption of audits, oversite etc..

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 2 2006 11:34 utc | 36

Row over first Muslim congressman’s Koran swearing-in

The decision by Keith Ellison, a Democrat, to use Islam’s holy book for next month’s ceremony instead of a bible triggered an angry column by Dennis Prager on the website Townhall.com.
Prager, who is Jewish, headlined the post: “America, Not Keith Ellison, decides what book a congressman takes his oath on.” He argued that using the Koran for the ceremony “undermines American civilisation”.
Prager said the issue was not about freedom of religion.
“I want Jews like myself to take the oath on the Bible, even though the New Testament is not our bible,” he said.
Asked if it would be a problem for a Jewish politician to take the oath on a bible that included only the Old Testament, Prager said it would, because the point was to honour “the bible of this country”.

Now is the time for Representative Ellison to remind us all, out loud, that the United States of America is not a Christian nation.
That it is not a Jewish nation. That it is not a Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Scientologist or Atheist nation.
The times demand it.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 2 2006 13:46 utc | 37

The US may stop trying to reach out to Sunni Arab guerrillas…

The US may stop trying to reach out to Sunni Arab guerrillas, and just throw whole-hearted support to the Shiites and the Kurds, according to UPI. On the other hand, the US could be threatening the Sunni Arabs with this in order to make them better dialogue partners. Who knows? The Arab press is convinced that the Arab powers have forestalled an American outreach to Iran and Syria.

They’ve managed to confuse Juan Cole as well as this mere mortal. Perhaps that is their design?

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 2 2006 14:04 utc | 38

@Sizemore,
I kind of have a dream of organizing video gamers. They have many beliefs I can respect – distrust of government (especially social conservatives), dislike of megacorporations (though they buy their stuff anyway). They have a problem of being anti-political, which manifests itself in believing “objective” centrist ideas as “true” and anything else as bias. It’s aggressively Americanist, which is sad. Fortunately, they probably won’t vote.

Posted by: Rowan | Dec 2 2006 18:31 utc | 39

@JFL – it’s smoke an mirrors, though I think not even deliberate.
The white house knows the issue is lost and various parties inside the white house are fighting over hopeless strategies of how to avaoid recognizing this with daily changing positions.

Posted by: b | Dec 2 2006 20:12 utc | 40

I suppose its worth noting that the “summit” with al-Maliki, the Hadley “memo”, and the Saudi “statements” are all basicly mafia don bullshit talk, as in to the guy behind in his loan payments, like in a crowded room is told — “Hey yo, tha boss wants me to tell yah just how much he likes doin business wit you, and would like to send you a nice little gift to show his appreciation”. It is all rather pathetic that american foreign policy should have been reduced to such an obvious and transparently duplicitious level. But, this event in Amman, is yet further confirmed by the Bush — Jim Webb incident, where the president tries to play the same duplicitious mafia don loyality upmanship disguised as concern on Jim Webb, who actually means what he says, and has the proof to back it up. It is hard even for someone as sarcastic and sceptical as me to believe that the entire policy apparatious of the american government could have become personified in both word and deed upon the shallow and contemptious musings of a petulant little frat boy prick, but that is what has happened. Not that there was ever very much, but at this point, the very last shread of integrity, honor, or even believablitiy, has indubitibly vanished — and is absent — from the american landscape.

Posted by: anna missed | Dec 2 2006 21:06 utc | 41

Maliki’s Monopoly of Power

The UN Security Council voted unanimously to extend the mandate of the occupation force in Iraq on November 28th. The Council acted in response to a request from Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in a letter he sent to the UN earlier this month. The US and the UK rushed the vote through the Council far in advance of the December 31 expiration of the mandate of the so-called “Multinational Force.” The vote took place just one day after consultations were held, and the matter was not inscribed in the work program of the Council for this month.
According to Parliamentarian Dr. Jabir Habib (An Iraqi Shia close to the al-Sadr group), the Iraqi Assembly was scheduled to vote on this issue next week. “We spent the last months discussing the conditions we wanted to add to the mandate, and the majority of the Parliament decided on three major conditions,” said Dr. Habib. “These conditions included pulling the coalition forces out of the cities and transferring responsibility for security to the Iraqi government, giving Iraqis the right to recruit, train, equip, and command the Iraqi security forces, and requiring that the UN mandate expire and be reviewed every 6 months instead of every 12 months.” None of these conditions were included in the final document the UN unanimously voted on yesterday.

No wonder Bush likes the guy. He’s an unapologetic traitor to his own people.
As for the UN. Cowards. Traitors to all the world’s people.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 3 2006 2:06 utc | 42

Rumsfeld’s “stab in the back” Rumsfeld Memo on Iraq Proposed ‘Major’ Change

One option Mr. Rumsfeld offered calls for modest troop withdrawals “so Iraqis know they have to pull up their socks, step up and take responsibility for their country.”
Another option calls for redeploying American troops from “vulnerable positions” in Baghdad and other cities to safer areas in Iraq or Kuwait, where they would act as a “quick reaction force.” That idea is similar to a plan suggested by Representative John P. Murtha, a Pennsylvania Democrat, a plan that the White House has soundly rebuffed.
Still another option calls for consolidating the number of American bases in Iraq to 5 from 55 by July 2007, a considerable shrinking of the American footprint. At the same time, Mr. Rumsfeld all but dismisses the idea of setting a firm date for removing forces from Iraq, listing it as one of the less palatable ideas.
One of the more provocative options would punish provinces that failed to cooperate with the Americans by withdrawing economic assistance and security. “Stop rewarding bad behavior, as was done in Falluja when they pushed in reconstruction funds, and start rewarding good behavior,” the option reads. “No more reconstruction assistance in areas where there is violence.”

The final page of the memo is a brief list of six “less attractive” options, which Mr. Rumsfeld describes as “below the line.” They include an “aggressive federalism plan,” an international conference modeled on the Dayton accords that produced an agreement on Bosnia and an idea that is currently being seriously discussed by senior administration officials: temporarily sending 20,000 additional American forces or more to Baghdad to try to improve security there and regain momentum.
Moving a large fraction of American forces to Baghdad to “attempt to control it,” Mr. Rumsfeld writes without further elaboration, would be “below the line.”

Posted by: b | Dec 3 2006 5:31 utc | 43

Frank Rich: Has He Started Talking to the Walls? (liberated version

When news organizations, politicians and bloggers had their own civil war about the proper usage of that designation last week, it was highly instructive — but about America, not Iraq. The intensity of the squabble showed the corrosive effect the president’s subversion of language has had on our larger culture. Iraq arguably passed beyond civil war months ago into what might more accurately be termed ethnic cleansing or chaos. That we were fighting over “civil war” at this late date was a reminder that wittingly or not, we have all taken to following Mr. Bush’s lead in retreating from English as we once knew it.
It’s been a familiar pattern for the news media, politicians and the public alike in the Bush era. It took us far too long to acknowledge that the “abuses” at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere might be more accurately called torture. And that the “manipulation” of prewar intelligence might be more accurately called lying. Next up is “pullback,” the Iraq Study Group’s reported euphemism to stave off the word “retreat” (if not retreat itself).

Posted by: b | Dec 3 2006 7:14 utc | 44

Yet another PSA from your favorite Uncle: Whatever you do don’t use Google! i.e. Research Beyond Google.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 3 2006 8:00 utc | 45

hahahahahaha…the the grand betrayal begins…
“We’re not going to do anything to limit funding or cut off funds,” says Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.
You know, the dims are the problem right? They support things like the 21st Century crime-fighters… /snark

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 3 2006 8:33 utc | 46

Uncle’s sunday read…
Retail Therapy and the Prozac Shopping Derby

Carl Elliott (in Pursued by Happiness and Beaten Senseless: Prozac and the American Dream) gives the example of Sisyphus pushing the boulder up the mountain. Sisyphus may be happier sweating under that rock with a stiff dose of Prozac, but it’s still a damned rock and his life is still pointless, despite his improved sense of well-being and acceptance of what made him sick in the first place. Based upon my own experience, I may have to differ with Carl a bit on that one. Throw in 200 milligrams of Provigil and a decent opiate and even a rock becomes imbued with deep meaning. At any rate, our regulating government only issues the good zippies to fighter pilots and night-scope stalkers in Iraq, and I suspect citizen dissatisfaction will have to get much worse before it rolls out the primo stuff for the rest of us….

Also of note, this months Wilson’s Quarterly has an interesting article entitled: Artificial Happiness: The Dark Side of the New Happy Class

There’s nothing like an authoritative, well-documented Grand Guignol horror story. If you’ve ever wondered about the source of those big, ecstatic American smiles or the frantically cheery commands to “have a nice day” that have become an inescapable part of our national life, read this riveting book and wonder no more. Chances are that the perpetrators of the friendly fire are zonked out on antidepres­sants, floating on magnetic clouds of alternative medicine, or overexercised into a state of euphoria. All three instrumentalities have a common goal of “artificial happiness”—happiness as an end in itself, an induced emotion with no connection to the facts of one’s life.

Dworkin presents a gallery of legal druggies who are so content with their artificial happiness that they have lost all incentive to take action against what made them unhappy in the first place.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 3 2006 9:41 utc | 47

Shout outs to Uncle, anna missed, John Francis Lee, fauxreal, annie, and as always Bernhard and my other faves jj and b real and Hannah. Hello to new poster alamet.
Sizemore, that is a valuable thread — the youth, the media and what is being sent.
Let’s keep in touch here, good to hear your point of view.
FYI Canada’s Liberal Party just nominated Stephane Dion, a brilliant Quebeq scion as their party leader. He will be leader of the opposition and potentially our next Prime Minister.
Sigh of relief here, Michael Ignatieff (gmac said he was called Ingathief) didn’t succesfully parachute in.
Dion is known as having deep thoughts about Canada and economics and our local politics, as well as a reputation for expressing his opinion despite its unpopularity.
He was active in the last Liberal government. Hope he hates war like I do.
Thanks Uncle.

Posted by: jonku | Dec 3 2006 9:46 utc | 48

Damn, must be a sat/sun thing, the whole internet boring on late night earlry mornings like this…lol
am I the only one up at this hour?…lol

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 3 2006 10:29 utc | 49

uncle, its just you and me baby

Posted by: annie | Dec 3 2006 10:42 utc | 50

actually, that is unlikely. what time is it in korea monolycus?

Posted by: annie | Dec 3 2006 10:44 utc | 51

jonku, huge shout out to you too! super congrats to canada.Stephane Dion, a brilliant Quebeq scion as their party leader. if you say so. go celebrate. damn. i love canada.
ok, i am posting way to much here. yada yada. forgive me my tresspasses..

Posted by: annie | Dec 3 2006 10:49 utc | 52

It’s about 8pm here, annie.

Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 3 2006 10:53 utc | 53

Zakaria: A Troubled ‘Afghan Model’ – Having confronted Islamic extremists on many issues, Musharraf seems to believe he need not thwart them on the goal of Afghan jihad.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his counterpart in Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, have openly quarreled about the cause of the Taliban’s re-emergence. Musharraf blames Karzai’s incompetence and weakness. Karzai argues that Pakistan has been tacitly—and often actively—supporting the Taliban along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, and in Pakistan itself. Having spoken to a number of senior Western officials and independent observers in both countries, I think it’s clear that, in the words of a senior U.S. administration official who wished to remain anonymous because of the sensitivity of the subject, “the weight of the evidence supports President Karzai.”

At the dinner that Bush threw for both presidents in September, Karzai was extremely blunt, according to those familiar with the discussions (who wish to remain anonymous because of the private nature of the event). Karzai warned that if the United States was forced to leave Afghanistan, Kabul would ally far more closely with India and Russia, which would not be in Pakistan’s interests. He also urged Musharraf to recognize that in supporting the Taliban and its doctrine of ethnic Pashtun nationalism, Musharraf was creating a problem for himself since there are millions of dissatisfied Pashtuns within Pakistan.

Posted by: b | Dec 3 2006 16:01 utc | 54

@r’giap and any other Tom Friedman “fans,” this one’s for you:
Empire Burlesque
Enjoy.

Posted by: Bea | Dec 3 2006 23:29 utc | 55

Even before the newly-elected Democrat-led congress has convened, it’s become apparent that business in Washington is going to be nothing if not usual. Unfortunately, “usual” has become synonymous with “so hideously bestial and mind-numbingly surreal that it simply staggers the imagination”.
For instance, Joe Biden is demanding a “confrontation” with Vladimir Putin on the grounds that:

“Russia is moving more and more toward an oligarchy here. Putin is consolidating power,” Biden said, adding that the United States had failed to challenge Putin for several years.
“I think that Russia is sliding further away from genuine democracy and a free-market system and more toward a command economy and the control of a single man,” he said, adding that he is “not a big fan of Putin’s.”
“I think we should have a direct confrontation with Putin politically about the need for him to change his course of action,” Biden said.

I just want you, gentle reader, to re-read that a moment and marvel that a Senator of the government of the United States of America, with an apparently straight face, made those comments about any other nation on the face of the planet Earth. We can fully expect to hear the US chiding Russia next about how they bungled their occupation of Afghanistan, get in a few shots to China about their growing obesity problem and maybe even slam England for speaking English.
Some have noted that, as far as Iraq is concerned, there seems to be a deliberate plan (outlined and leaked by no less a personage than the embittered D. Rumsfeld) to lower American expectations, by redefining victory, to avoid the appearance of losing. As we can see from the above, however, the “dumbing down” initiative (or Operation Here’s Your Ass, Here’s Your Elbow) might not be strictly limited to the prettying-up of any specific quagmire. As Senator Biden has demonstrated, anything can be made to look better by comparison… so in that spirit, I am going to laugh about the worthlessness of the Chilean peso and grumble about Saudi Arabia’s blatant human rights violations.

Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 4 2006 5:00 utc | 56

Congrats to Chavez – some 61% of voters elected him again …

Posted by: b | Dec 4 2006 6:42 utc | 57

An NYT editorial about Putin includes this sentence

Government critics have been branded “enemies of Russia” on lists that circulate openly in government circles.

Are they trying to be funny?

Posted by: b | Dec 4 2006 7:07 utc | 58

In bed with Russophobes

Every measure Putin has taken has been portrayed by the Russophobes as the work of a sinister totalitarian. Gazprom’s decision to start charging Ukraine the going rate for its gas last winter was presented as a threat to the future of western Europe. And while western interference in elections in Ukraine, Georgia and other ex-Soviet republics has been justified on grounds of spreading democracy, any Russian involvement in the affairs of its neighbours has been spun as an attempt to recreate the “evil empire”. As part of their strategy, Washington’s hawks have been busy promoting Chechen separatism in furtherance of their anti-Putin campaign, as well as championing some of Russia’s most notorious oligarchs.
In the absence of genuine evidence of Russian state involvement in the killings of Litvinenko and Politkovskaya, we should be wary about jumping on a bandwagon orchestrated by the people who bought death and destruction to the streets of Baghdad, and whose aim is to neuter any counterweight to the most powerful empire ever seen.

Posted by: b | Dec 4 2006 8:08 utc | 59

Yep, Chavez does it again (was there any doubt that he would?)
If Comrade Fidel is on the way out, which would appear likely, I’m glad he gets to see Latin America shaping itself along lines he has suggested by his thought, word and deed over the past 50 years, at least I would if I believed in the great man view of history. But I don’t: the people do it for themselves.
As for Fidel, I only hope he outlives that fuckwit Pinochet.

Posted by: Dismal Science | Dec 4 2006 13:51 utc | 61

this week at Mr Chavez’s bidding to lay plans for a sweeping constitutional “architecture” that would strengthen the legal standing of presidential decrees, such as the transfer of ownership stakes in businesses and factories to worker co-operatives.
nice

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 4 2006 14:18 utc | 62

@ bea #55
i swear to god it’s chris f channelling chris b

Posted by: Dismal Science | Dec 4 2006 14:21 utc | 63

@ bea #55
i swear to god it’s chris f channelling chris b

Posted by: Dismal Science | Dec 4 2006 14:23 utc | 64

Litvinenko an extortionist?

Posted by: Dismal Science | Dec 4 2006 14:28 utc | 65

monolycus,your rummy link @ #56.. this reminds me of bea’s israel branding survey link, they are going to solve the issue of perception w/pr. it’s not the war were fighting, its the war we think we’re fighting. all smoke and mirrors

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 4 2006 14:39 utc | 66

dismal Alexander Litvinenko with a Scottish bonnet, Chechen swords and KGB gauntlets.
hollywood? my son used to get all dressed up and pose w/his sword.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 4 2006 14:47 utc | 67

anyone else hear that bolton just resigned?? and lieberman is being floated as a possible replacement. damn, does that mean they can appoint a republican senator to replace lieberman?

Posted by: conchita | Dec 4 2006 15:32 utc | 68

I’m sorry… sickened again. On the front page of AOL (yes, for anyone who hasn’t noticed my address at the end of my posts, I use AOL), there is a non-scientific survey regarding the US government’s treatment of José Padilla. At the time I looked at it, 67% of the respondents wholeheartedly approve of the way the US government has handled itself in this affair (including three and a half years of what can only be considered torture to the extent that the man, who has only recently been even charged with anything, is no longer deemed mentally capable of being questioned in his own defense.)with only 22% disapproving… and 11% of the people who don’t seem to have any opinion.
I feel another bout of intractable vomiting coming on. What fucking, unfeeling, unconscionable animals the majority of human beings have become. Screw questions of “What America stands for”… liberty, justice, democracy… these have become so many empty bullshit buzzwords to rationalise their contemptible barbarism. If you can actually APPROVE of treating other human beings in this way, it is clear that you never stood for a damned thing in the first place except making sure that you could get your filthy snout in the consumer trough at any expense. Only pigs walking upright, jockeying to make sure that they are the ones who are “more equal than others”, could not only sit idly by while others suffer, but actually APPROVE of it. Bastards. Contemptible bastards.

Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 4 2006 16:08 utc | 69

@conchita (#68)
Bush accepts Bolton’s U.N. resignation

President Bush, in a statement, said he was “deeply disappointed that a handful of United States senators prevented Ambassador Bolton from receiving the up or down vote he deserved in the Senate.”
“They chose to obstruct his confirmation, even though he enjoys majority support in the Senate, and even though their tactics will disrupt our diplomatic work at a sensitive and important time,” Bush said. “This stubborn obstructionism ill serves our country, and discourages men and women of talent from serving their nation.”

Damage Done. Mission Accomplished.

Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 4 2006 16:19 utc | 70

conchita! heavens

Posted by: annie | Dec 4 2006 16:21 utc | 71

(dec. 3rd) Bolivia’s Morales signs into law contracts nationalizing natural gas

President Evo Morales signed into law Sunday contracts giving the government control over foreign energy companies’ operations, completing a process begun May 1 with the nationalization of Bolivia’s petroleum industry.
The deals, signed by the companies last month, also grant Morales’ government a majority share of the foreign companies’ revenues generated in Bolivia. Companies that signed contracts include Brazilian state energy giant Petrobras, Spanish-Argentine Repsol YPF, France’s Total SA, and British Gas, a unit of BG Group PLC.
Morales also announced Sunday that Royal Dutch Shell had agreed to transfer to his government majority control of its Bolivian subsidiary Transredes, which operates the country’s largest network of gas pipelines.
Bolivia’s natural gas reserves are South America’s largest after Venezuela’s.

(dec. 2) Plan for South American Pipeline Has Ambitions Beyond Gas

President Hugo Chávez is not modest about his energy plans. He wants to build a 5,000-mile natural gas pipeline that stretches from this remote northern tip of South America to the bottom end of the continent.
Erecting possibly the longest pipeline in the world is the centerpiece of a broader effort by Mr. Chávez to strengthen ties among Latin America’s economies and shrink their dependence on the United States.
But from the outset, the $20 billion “great gas pipeline of the south,” planned to be more than twice as long as the United States border with Mexico, has generated political and environmental controversy at home and abroad.
Mr. Chávez, who deeply distrusts the United States and has raised the prospect that it may invade Venezuela to seize its oil, is seeking to diversify his country’s energy exports away from its biggest client and toward countries as far away as China and as close as Brazil.

(nov. 29) Ecuador to refine oil in Venezuela: Correa

Ecuador’s leftist Rafael Correa, who won Sunday’s presidential run-off vote, will start sending Ecuadorean oil to refine in Venezuela, he told a local newspaper in an interview published on Wednesday.

Ecuador, South America’s No. 5 oil producer, has very limited refining capacity, which forces it to sell only crude overseas and import finished products such as gasoline.
“From January 16 we will send oil to Venezuela to refine,” Correa told El Comercio newspaper. “Enough of throwing money out of the window to export crude and import products.”
Correa, who spooked Wall Street with talk of debt renegotiation, has also promised to review foreign oil contracts to ensure the state receives a larger share of volume from production.

Posted by: b real | Dec 4 2006 16:28 utc | 72

And because the story wasn’t nearly weird enough, Alexander Litvinenko, the former Russian intelligence agent poisoned in London, is to be buried according to Muslim tradition after converting to Islam on his deathbed.
Deathbed conversions… shadowy poisonings… murky politics governing world events… if Michael Baigent,Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln aren’t busy scribbling this one up, they are missing out on a second fortune.

Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 4 2006 16:55 utc | 73

@Monolycus #69
I could not agree more.
Have you seen this on the front page of today’s NYT?

Posted by: Bea | Dec 4 2006 18:12 utc | 74

has been a very, very tough day
but when it ends with the victory of comrade chavez, the fall of john bolton & the near death of herr pinochet – you know the world isn’t all bad

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 4 2006 20:11 utc | 75

& thanks bea for the friedman/floyd

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 4 2006 20:29 utc | 76

Bolton gone is a loss for Cheney just like Rumsfeld gone was for him – that is is still underreported – I think it’s quite significant.

Posted by: b | Dec 4 2006 20:56 utc | 77

so do i, b – some would say – in a slaughterhouse what difference does it make – who are the spokesmen of such sadism – & i would normally agree but in these two instance you have people who clearly did not want to go & who held office to the very last second of the last hour & you have an immediate embittered response fromp the coward-in-chief himself
& their anger today gives me new breath
& congratulations again to el commandante chavez

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 4 2006 21:04 utc | 78

& really not to see that sub-nietzschean swine bolton’s face nor his his bellicose barking will give me a break
& rumsfield – well he may be able to open up his own school of philology somewhere in pensylvannia

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 4 2006 21:07 utc | 79

bea #74 what’s w/those goggles?? does the solitary confinement mean he never sees light? wtf.
mono, maybe he converted to for post mortem fame knowing his story was going to be incorporated into a spy thriller.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 4 2006 21:48 utc | 80

breaker, breaker, boom!
Help Wanted

The U.S. Defense Logistics Agency launched a recruitment campaign earlier this month seeking over 600 skilled drivers to carry defense products in exotic lands, all overseas. No fooling.
One drawback, however — okay, one of many drawbacks — is the fact that you’ll have to put your driving skills to the test on the roads of, um, Iraq and northern Kuwait.
Oh, and as just an aside, you’ll be driving wheeled oil tankers, filled to the brim with flammable petrochemicals.

Posted by: b real | Dec 4 2006 22:14 utc | 81

In my humble opinion, the goggles are so the guards don’t have to see his eyes… which would make him all too human. But what do I know.
I found that piece terrifying, particularly in light of the knowledge that Bush, his sanity as fragile as it has now been reported to be, has the power to put each and every one of us into those exact circumstances forever.
If this is not a new Dark Ages, then I don’t know what is.

Posted by: Bea | Dec 4 2006 23:04 utc | 82

Monolycus@69
Yes, you are not alone. I feel your outrage too

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 4 2006 23:16 utc | 83

Monolycus@69
Yes, you are not alone. I feel your outrage too.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 4 2006 23:17 utc | 84

b real@72
much appreciated. thanks for the wide-angle

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 4 2006 23:25 utc | 85

Bernhard,
all I can say is Thank you. You are truly special. And yes you are a warrior.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 4 2006 23:32 utc | 86

@Monolycus
This soul sick nation, and the bastards whom condone, encourage, or even sanctify this are beyond … fuck I can’t even put anything into words, sad, very, very sad. Sad and disgusted.
“The sad truth is that most evil
is done by people who never make
up their minds to be good or evil.”
~Hannah Arendt (it’s the anniv of her death today)

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 4 2006 23:45 utc | 87

Bea #74 — the humiliation and psychic destruction of Padilla highlighted by the NY Times seems more of a warning or a threat, much like the entire US prison-industrial complex.
The story says the broken man is unable to assist in his own defence, and is uncertain if his lawyer isn’t part of the plot, cowering when asked questions similar to those of his interrogation under duress. Like “a piece of furniture.”

Posted by: jonku | Dec 4 2006 23:48 utc | 88

“The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don’t ask for their love, only for their fear.”
— Heinrich Himmler

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 4 2006 23:55 utc | 89

The photo of Padilla shackled, blinded, and deafened reveals the unfathomable depths of cowering fear in the minds and souls of his captors.
“while the builders of the cages
sleep with bullets, bars, and stone…
hold on
you may disappear, you’re not forgotten here
and I will say to you, I will do what I can do
and I will do what I can do
and I will do what I can do”
-Peter Gabriel, “Wallflower”

Posted by: catlady | Dec 5 2006 0:59 utc | 90

“Mr. Padilla’s situation, as an American declared an enemy combatant and held without charges by his own government, was extraordinary and the conditions of his detention appear to have been unprecedented in the military justice system.
An American-born citizen held without charges by his own government.
Have we fully and wholly absorbed and faced the enormously profound implications of that one little phrase in that one sentence?

Posted by: Bea | Dec 5 2006 1:24 utc | 91

Oops – that sentence I quoted (and forgot to close the quotes on) was from today’s NYT piece.

Posted by: Bea | Dec 5 2006 1:25 utc | 92

Bea: that one little phrase is all legal-eagle, thanks to the Military Commissions Act signed sealed and delivered last month. It wasn’t legal when Padilla was arrested, far as I can tell.
‘at’s some deep dark shit we be in, and ain’t it amazin’ how we jest keeps rollin’ along? we’re all wearin’ them there blinders and no-hear-ums, la-la-la-la-la, we is all good ‘Murcans, yessirree.

Posted by: catlady | Dec 5 2006 1:59 utc | 93

did you catch the DoD photos of shackling padilla at cryptome? looks like someone is doing a mindfuck on everyone involved as well, including those responsible for transporting him. c’mon. who they guarding? a broken human being, right? what’s he going to do? spit on someone?

Posted by: b real | Dec 5 2006 3:30 utc | 94

Altogether too much ugliness… What got to me is that we often take an overly academic standpoint and analyze motives and calculate probabilities here in our discussions. There is nothing that is so disgustingly wrong that we can ever just call it for what it is without somebody somewhere playing Devil’s Advocate. I’ve conditioned myself to thinking of people who adopt policies contrary to humanity as being sincere, but misguided. And then that survey hit me between the eyes.
All of a sudden, it just became crystal clear to me that people, a MAJORITY of people, see the same aspects of wrongness that I do… they’ve looked long and hard into the face of inhumanity and been SATISFIED with it. It caught me off guard, I’ll admit. It’s not that most of those respondents could begin to justify these things; deep in their twisted, nasty, vicious, solipsistic, atavistic, unfeeling, uncaring, infantile souls, they know what’s being done is wrong… and they LIKE it that way. And that revelation made me nauseous.
Onward, then… and I’ll consider getting that species reassignment surgery.
No, Bea (#74), I read the same copy, but I haven’t bothered with the NYT proper since the Pinch and Judy Show.
In the same spirit of “torture as entertainment”, it’s been noted that the Bush administration (is) to be (made into a)cartoon. Because they weren’t one already. And now it’ll be funny when this merry gang of hooligans violate the sanctity of human life… it’s not like any impressionable teens ever emulated the likes of Beavis and Butthead or Homer Simpson.
As a heavy-handed segue from stories of childish cartoon antics, the Senate may not take as many lengthy recesses in an effort to “…make it difficult, if not impossible, for President Bush to give recess appointments to nominees blocked for confirmation.” Closing the barn door after the horse has already wandered out seems to be the motivation here… unless there was still a slot open for an unemployed, rabidly fascist federal judge to occupy.
Speaking of rabid fascists, we all knew Karl Rove’s head was going to roll after the midterm election “thumping”. Fortunately for the White House, they had a spare “architect of evil” laying around in the box of tools (pun intended)who will help the White House (and I wouldn’t claim credit for this phrase if I could) get their “mojo” back. One Bolton out, another Bolten in. After Josh, John and Michael, if I had the surname “Bolton” or “Bolten”, I would be very tempted to have it legally changed to something a little less emotionally charged. Like maybe “Hitler”.
In other news, Tony Blair, inspired by his own propaganda, no doubt, has decided to renew Britain’s nuclear arsenal. The West, it seems, is using a different definition of the word “proliferation” than the one with which I had been familiar.

Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 5 2006 5:07 utc | 95

just now reading threads and links. the padilla story. my heart is sick. to paraphase elizabeth de la vega – are we a nation of kitty genovese’s neighbors? how can decent human beings allow this to happen? and yet, could the tide be turning? patrick leahy states at a vermont democratic victory party that bush should be terrified at the prospect of leahy as judiciary chair. let leahy prove how fierce he can be.

Posted by: conchita | Dec 5 2006 6:11 utc | 96

Good discussion of economic situation written for lit. majors in comments to this article

Posted by: jj | Dec 5 2006 6:11 utc | 97

@Monolycus, #69:

On the front page of AOL (yes, for anyone who hasn’t noticed my address at the end of my posts, I use AOL), there is a non-scientific survey regarding the US government’s treatment of José Padilla.

A majority of Americans may or may not approve of the government’s treatment of José Padilla — it never pays to be optimistic about American political sensibilities — but I doubt the real numbers have anything to do with this poll. AOL is the online equivalent of USA Today or Fox News; it’s proverbial among computer geeks for being a major source of stupidity. You are, after all, talking about people who by and large responded to direct mail solicitations to get onto the service. (And these days, it isn’t even the case that it’s cheaper or easier than doing it yourself, except in rare circumstances.)

Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Dec 5 2006 6:27 utc | 98

If anyone still hoped Fidel would be back at the helm, this story underscores that it’s beyond remote…and, of course, xUS still plans to destroy their form of govt…
The US State Department has rejected an offer of talks with Raul Castro, Cuba’s acting president.
It saw no point in a dialogue with what it described as the Caribbean island’s “dictator-in-waiting.”
“The dialogue that should be taking place is not between Raul Castro and any group outside or any country outside of Cuba,” State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters.
“It’s the regime, with the Cuban people, talking about a transition to a democratic form of governance in that country,” he said.
link
Of course, it could be disinfo to begin sowing seeds of discord in Cuba…
Speaking of the passing of a generation, Pinochet has been given the last rites…or was a week or so ago…

Posted by: jj | Dec 5 2006 7:41 utc | 99

@Vicious Truth (#98)
I’m aware. That’s why I caveated the survey (“It’s AOL and it’s ‘non-scientific'”) they way I did. Even so, from a statistical standpoint, 67% approval for the story (which was copied directly from the NYT version that Bea provided) goes beyond mere dumbassery and indicates to my satisfaction a general direction of attitudes.
And anyway, at the end of the day, maybe you can explain to me how it’s a comfort that people support torture out of stupidity rather than mean-spiritedness.

Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 5 2006 10:02 utc | 100