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December 6, 2006
ISG Report – Flowers And Sweets

Some random thoughts while reading through the Iraq Study Group Report (pdf) (all following page numbers refer to the PDF pagecount). I’ll probably try to come up with some less random thoughts later, but don’t want to miss to communicate the first impressions.

The situations is a terrible mess in all dimensions. At this blog we have in the past picked together pieces of the picture from various press accounts and blogs. But the public has had no overview of the situation and a comprehensive listing like available in the report will help to open some eyes.

As an example of how underreported the situation really is the report notes on page 13:

The standard for recording attacks acts as a filter to keep events out of reports and databases. A murder of an Iraqi is not necessarily counted as an attack. If we cannot determine the source of a sectarian attack, that assault does not make it into the database. A roadside bomb or a rocket or mortar attack that doesn’t hurt U.S. personnel doesn’t count. For example, on one day in July 2006 there were 93 attacks or significant acts of violence reported. Yet a careful review of the reports for that single day brought to light 1,100 acts of violence.

The report does call for more unity in the government and blames a lot on Maliki and sectarian forces within the government (p19).

Iraqi people have a democratically elected government that is broadly representative of Iraq’s population, yet the government is not adequately advancing national reconciliation, providing basic security, or delivering essential services.

There is this note that obviously is in conflict with recent press reports (p25):

There are roughly 5,000 civilian contractors in the country.

The Washington Post reported yesterday: Census Counts 100,000 Contractors in Iraq. So what is it???

How not to spend money effectivly (p26):

Congress has been generous in funding requests for U.S. troops, but it has resisted fully funding Iraqi forces. The entire appropriation for Iraqi defense forces for FY 2006 ($3 billion) is less than the United States currently spends in Iraq every two weeks.

As for outsite medling in Iraq, the Iranian influence, according to the report clearly runs through al-Hakim’s Badr corps, while the Sadr-movement is described as nationalistic. Also noteable (p47):

Funding for the Sunni insurgency comes from private individuals within Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, even as those governments help facilitate U.S. military operations in Iraq by providing basing and overflight rights and by cooperating on intelligence issues.

While the report notes the total number of Iraqis that have fled the country (1.8 million plus 1.6 internally displaced) and talks about the burdon this has put on Jordan (700,000 refugees), when talking about Syria, neither the numbers of refugees there nor any burden is mentioned.

Sovereign Iraq shall only have command over its own forces if it behaves as the U.S. tells it behave (p78).

The transfer of command and control over Iraqi security forces units from the United States to Iraq should be influenced by Iraq’s performance on milestones.

The report calls for much more embedded U.S. troops within Iraqi forces (p89)

Such a mission could involve 10,000 to 20,000 American troops instead of the 3,000 to 4,000 now in this role.

At the same time it notes the problem that I have pointed out a few days ago. (p110)

All of our efforts in Iraq, military and civilian, are handicapped by Americans’ lack of language and cultural understanding. Our embassy of 1,000 has 33 Arabic speakers, just six of whom are at the level of fluency. In a conflict that demands effective and efficient communication with Iraqis, we are often at a disadvantage. There are still far too few Arab language– proficient military and civilian officers in Iraq, to the detriment of the U.S. mission.

There simply are not enough translators to embed so many U.S. troops into Iraqi forces. How can you expect them to teach each other and/or fight together if they simply can not talk to each other?

One also wonders what 1,000 embassy personal are doing all day when they only have six reliable interfaces with Iraqis. But maybe the number is wrong here (see "missing" contractors above).

The report names some conditions that would have to be met for including Iran and Syria into talks. The attitude is roughly the same than Bush/Cheney have shown all along (p70).

Our limited contacts with Iran’s government lead us to believe that its leaders are likely to say they will not participate in diplomatic efforts to support stability in Iraq. They attribute this reluctance to their belief that the United States seeks regime change in Iran.
Nevertheless, as one of Iraq’s neighbors Iran should be asked to assume its responsibility to participate in the Support Group. An Iranian refusal to do so would demonstrate to Iraq and the rest of the world Iran’s rejectionist attitude and approach, which could lead to its isolation. Further, Iran’s refusal to cooperate on this matter would diminish its prospects of engaging with the United States in the broader dialogue it seeks.

There is no word of taking back "regime change", but the Iranians are "rejectionists"?

On Syria there are mostly threats but also the recommendation of negotiation over the the Golan heights and of negotiations between the Palestinians and Israel. But each time the Palestinians are named as negotiating partner the wording includes a caveat (p72):

This commitment must include direct talks with, by, and between Israel, Lebanon, Palestinians (those who accept Israel’s right to exist), and particularly Syria

This caveat obviously exludes the elected Palestinian government and will be used to sabotage any negotiation attempt even before it starts.

The most important recommendation is on page 104:

RECOMMENDATION 63:
• The United States should encourage investment in Iraq’s oil sector by the international community and by international energy companies.
• The United States should assist Iraqi leaders to reorganize the national oil industry as a commercial enterprise, in order to enhance efficiency, transparency, and accountability.
• To combat corruption, the U.S. government should urge the Iraqi government to post all oil contracts, volumes, and prices on the Web so that Iraqis and outside observers can track exports and export revenues.
• The United States should support the World Bank’s efforts to ensure that best practices are used in contracting. This support involves providing Iraqi officials with contracting templates and training them in contracting, auditing, and reviewing audits.

"The Study Group has been assured that the Iraqi government and population will great the help of Mr. Wolfowitz in managing their oil contracts with flowers and sweets."

Comments

b, you are amazing…. how did you process all that so fast???
My favorite is the last bullet about “proving contracting templates.” Everything is all done for you, folks, and stated in business-language English (that you don’t understand). All you’ve gotta do is sign here on the dotted line…. Never mind the small print that we will own your oil for several generations to come… nothing to see here… sign and return to sender…

Posted by: Bea | Dec 6 2006 19:32 utc | 1

I meant “providing,” not “proving” … in that last post of mine.

Posted by: Bea | Dec 6 2006 19:33 utc | 2

Ivo Daalder: “Subject to Unexpected Developments”

This, of course, is the key phrase in the Baker-Hamilton Report’s recommendation on U.S. combat forces — as in “by the first quarter of 2008, subject to unexpected developments in the security situation on the ground, all combat brigades not necessary for force protection could be out of Iraq.”
So what are the unexpected developments that could mean we should still be there, with all our combat forces, fighting a war?

Posted by: b | Dec 6 2006 19:43 utc | 3

The world has really turned. With the election of the Democratic Congress, the Oil Sheiks suddenly are feeling very insecure. A bloody Shiite Sunni partition will occur as the US pulls out. The Sheiks no longer believe in Bush or Condi. They desperately need a regional conference to settle Palestine and Iraq issues before their heads roll but the US isn’t listening.

Posted by: Jim S | Dec 6 2006 20:05 utc | 4

b, you are amazing…. how did you process all that so fast???
where was i when they were passing out those brains?

Posted by: annie | Dec 6 2006 20:15 utc | 5

where was i when they were passing out those brains?
Well, I was drinking at a bar and the the whiskey was delicious, so I missed the handout.

The report makes some statements about the real situation in Iraq that hopefully sets the MSM free of their incredible stupid paroting of Bush lines.
On the other site all recommendations are fluffy and non has to be followed and everything can be cited in support or against of whatever.
It is useful for the past – useless for the future.

Posted by: b | Dec 6 2006 20:52 utc | 6

In the new marching orders for Iraqi’s, ( delivered in Weasel not English) there is a glaring omission of one pertinent fact: The whole mess started on a day of infamy when Naval and Air forces of the Imperial Empire of the United States of America suddenly and deliberately attacked the Sovereign Nation of Iraq. Until they leave, nothing will get better. The Iraqi’s are not stupid and will defend their home and oil and way of life to the last man/person against the invader and collaborators. It just ‘looks’ like sectarian strife.
Noone ever mentions that maybe the Iraqi’s don’t want “Big Box” Democracy with it’s dependence on the eternal will and resulting slavery of the money changers.
.02

Posted by: pb | Dec 6 2006 20:57 utc | 7

“Our embassy of 1,000 has 33 Arabic speakers, just six of whom are at the level of fluency”
This is no more incompetence, this is sheer batshit-crazy insanity. You just can’t expect an occupation to work in such a situation, it just can’t be. The only thing left is random violence and genocide, there’s no way you could ever administer Iraq with a handful of guys in your embassy – and probably not much more on the military side.
Basically, the US in Iraq is just like the Martians in War of the Worlds; they can’t communicate with the locals, just shoot them.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Dec 6 2006 22:21 utc | 8

Just watched the “news” and came here for fresh air. Thanks b et al. Baker invoking the Clinton “impeachment” as if that was some kind of historical event. Funny. What kind of whiskey was that b?

Posted by: beq | Dec 7 2006 0:13 utc | 9

Lord of the Flies Redux

6 November 2002
The young in this country are reported to tend to support war with Iraq and the older generations tend to see the risks involved. The older folks seem hesitant to send their children and grandchildren into a gristmill that may not pass the U.S. security cost-benefit audit.
That doesn’t sync with what I see here in the Pentagon. The adolescents driving the little red Iraqi war wagon and banging the Baghdad war drums sport beards, gray hair, and spare tires.
Isn’t this really what chickenhawk is all about? Men who missed the opportunity to prove themselves on a battlefield? Missed being tested and hardened, missed the opportunity to wrestle wisdom and courage out of sweat and pain and fear? Missed it because it was inconvenient or scary, and now, too late, want to go back and make up for it?
The juvenile instant gratification crowd is running the five-sided asylum. We are on an island without adult supervision. William Golding wrote about it in 1954 in Lord of the Flies.
The boys on the island in Lord of the Flies had to prioritize… keep the fire for security and civilization burning bright or else hunt incessantly for pigs. The fire went out and they missed being brought back into society. Eventually they killed the mother pig, destroying their primary food source.
But hey, little boys don’t think about the future, and that’s understandable.
New symbols of evil, new rules and definitions for democracy, liberation, sovereignty, prisoners of war and enemies of the state, and new ideas about what force can and cannot achieve are being played out in a grand Pentagon experiment.
It is a strange New World on our island. We don’t paint our faces just yet, but we are developing rituals and nicknames.
Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense, is “Sunshine Warrior.”
Richard Perle is “Prince of Darkness.”
The Secretary of Defense is reported to have a bowl in his office where he tells visitors he places a token every time he says something nice about someone. The punch line occurs when the visitor looks and sees that the bowl is nearly empty.
He’s called Rummy, or Duke Nukem, or sometimes just angry and arrogant.
But symbols and nicknames are good. It’s the infantile brain processes that worry me.
Just yesterday, one of the anointed, …er appointed, civilian Ph.D. Iraq war planners held a meeting where the policy desk officers for Middle East countries were invited and consulted for the first time. The question of the day was purported to come from the Secretary, something like “When we do Iraq, what will be the effect on the neighbors?”
There was stunned silence as the desk officers collectively absorbed the shock that such a question might be asked of them so late in planning stage for an Iraq war. If Sunshine, Prince and Duke had had their way last summer, we would be at war by now – and only yesterday the planning team thinks to query the desk officers?
The desk officers dragged their jaws off the floor and, wide-eyed and unbelieving, listened to the ensuing discussion among the anointed. The debate around the fire was about what the war phases might be, whether there were to be two–attack and aftermath, or three–attack, regime change/chaos control, and occupation.
Dry mouths and eye twitches were evident among the innocent military folks who had not previously dealt directly with the civilian war planning team. Which would be most of them up to this point.
Now, when I want to have the holy freaking bejeesus scared out of me, I like to be able to buy popcorn and a big Coke, maybe some sno-caps. Or read a book about boys morphing into beasts on a remote island.
Because when that’s over, I can return to a world where we listen to the wise and respect our elders.
William Golding tells a story about an island where aggressively shortsighted and juvenile minds have created a nasty little society based on evil symbols, inadequate information, exclusion and fear and where the good guys get to do the dying. What a coincidence!

Yes b, the “Sunshine Warrior” now in place for phase II at the World Bank, “retired” as was McNamera following his string of War Crimes, is ready to deliver the coup d’grace.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 2:02 utc | 10

US Military Says Ten GIs Killed in Iraq

The Associated Press
Wednesday 06 December 2006
US military says 10 GIs killed in four separate incidents in Iraq.
Baghdad, Iraq – Ten US forces were killed in four separate incidents Wednesday in Iraq, the US military said.
The military confirmed that the 10 Americans had died but gave no further details.
“Our thoughts and prayers go out to those family members who have lost loved ones today,” US military spokesman Lt. Col. Christopher Garver said in a statement.
The deaths raised to at least 2,917 the number of members of the US military who have died since the beginning of the war in 2003, according to a count by The Associated Press.

“The adolescents driving the little red Iraqi war wagon and banging the Baghdad war drums sport beards, gray hair, and spare tires.”

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 2:14 utc | 11

This panel report is a classic CYA piece, and has no relation to reality.

The violence is spiraling so quickly out of control in Iraq that the US will be lucky if it has any troops in Iraq left on the ground in six months time. What are they doing there? They are just ducks in an insane shooting gallery!

The marines will have to get their choppers to evacuate everyone out; the US will be unable to secure their superbases in the country. It will be Saigon 1975 all over again, except in the Green Zone…

In the meantime, Bush and the Republicans will attempt to pin the blame for the “loss of the Middle East” on the Democrats. (Remember how they tried to pin the blame for the loss of South Vietnam and Cambodia on the Democrats and Bella Abzug, even though it was Kissinger’s fault?) The whole region will be devoured in a large-scale genocidal conflagration which will eventually consume Israel too… The USA’s whole global role will be diminished.

This will lead to political and possibly military confrontation and finger-pointing in the US because of the internal divisions in American society created by DeLay and Rove. The Second American Civil War?

See what presidents from Texas can do?

Posted by: Chris Marlowe | Dec 7 2006 2:17 utc | 12

It’s incredible! They look at the situation like there is no occupation there…Helloooooo! It’s occupation stupid!
During German occupation in WWII there was civil war underneath, between various forces (for example royalists and communists etc) as well as between nationalistic forces ( Croats and Muslims against Serbs and much more groups…).Before the WWII there was kingdom that managed to keep all this forces in peace, so German occupation actually triggered civil war. After Germans left (were defeated) international community set down and made (whatever wrong) solution to stop civil war.
Americans HAVE TO GO, leave Iraqi oil to Iraqis, to reimburse for the damage they made and woooallla solution ( what ever wrong it may be) will be found.

Posted by: vbo | Dec 7 2006 2:25 utc | 13

LT. GEN. ODIERNO LOOKS INTO COLONIAL HELL FOR GUIDANCE
Baker/Hamiton Study Group Looking There Too.

Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, the Nov. 20 New York Times reports, is returning to Iraq in December “to take charge of the day-to-day fight as commander of the Multinational Corps-Iraq.” The article says that the lieutant general spent “several months preparing for his new command (in Iraq), assigning his staff several histories of counter-insurgency efforts in Malaya, Algeria and Viet Nam.”
Lt. Gen. Odierno appears to be taking an interest in three extremely brutal colonial campaigns against popular movements for self-determination.
As noted in a recent article on this website (see archives “Iraq Troop Withdrawal Looks Far Off”), Lt. Gen. Odierno has a sad history in Iraq in which troops under his command in the Fourth Infantry Division in 2003 and 2004 were involved in apparent war crimes. This point is, remarkably, overlooked by the Times article which says that after he left Iraq in early 2004, he spent 18 months as an assistant to the Joint Chiefs, “most of that as an advisor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.”
Lt. Gen. Odierno will be taking command at the same time that the Iraq Study Group, headed by James Baker III and Lee Hamilton will be making their recommendations on Iraq. A Pentagon group is also working on recommendations as is the staff of the National Security Council. The competition is on for the “winning” formula for Iraq, and it is highly likely that increased counter-insurgency action will be part of this formula.

from the archival link above :

Evidence of the possibility of a bloody time ahead can also be found in the appointment of Army Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno to be second in command of U.S. forces in Iraq, as reported recently in the Wall Street Journal.
The history of Lt. Gen. Odierno’s 4th Infantry Division in Iraq is characterized in the book “Fiasco” as one involving massive detentions of Iraqi civilians and widespread abuses of civilians, including killing. One reported result of the wholesale rounding up of civilians conducted by his division was the abuse at Abu Ghraib.
“What wasn’t widely understood at the time,” writes Thomas Ricks in “Fiasco”, “or now outside the military, is that the overcrowding at the prison, and some of the resulting lapses in supervision, resulted directly from tactical decisions by (Lt. Gen. Ricardo) Sanchez and his division commanders, most notably the 4th ID’s Gen. Odierno. In the fall of 2003 they were stuffing Abu Ghraib with thousands of detainees, the majority of them bystanders caught up in sweeps.”
Mr. Ricks documents abuses of the 4th ID under Odierno’s command that appear to constitute war crimes. He reports that one fellow officer thought Odierno showed “very sound” leadership, but that a senior intelligence officer “thought Odierno intentionally turned a blind eye to certain brutalities: ‘He’s a good guy. But he would say to his colonels, ‘I don’t want to hear the bad shit.’”

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 2:28 utc | 14

Roots of debacle in Iraq are in neocon ideology
The leading advocates of the war were wrong about nearly every aspect of it.
By Justin Logan

James Baker and Lee Hamilton aren’t in charge of U.S. foreign policy, and the report itself can do little more than provide political cover for the president to change course – if he wants to. However, as President Bush said on Thursday: “This business about a graceful exit just simply has no realism to it at all.”
The passion with which the neocons argued for invading Iraq was never coupled with a serious examination of what it would require to achieve our goals there. An honest discussion about the costs of war would have greatly diminished the case for invading.
The Baker-Hamilton commission cannot change this reality. The only thing that can right our course at this point is an outright rejection of the neoconservative approach that steered us into the quagmire in Iraq in the first place.
Neoconservatives have been wrong about every possible aspect of Iraq: wrong about the threat from Saddam, wrong about the way to deal with it, wrong about the costs of war, wrong about the insurgency, and wrong about staying the course. The only question left is how long the country and the Bush administration will continue listening to them on foreign policy. And at what cost?

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 2:36 utc | 15

‘We Can’t Afford to Leave’
As the debate over Iraq intensifies, leading Democrat Silvestre Reyes is calling for the deployment of more U.S. troops.

Dec. 5. 2006 – In a surprise twist in the debate over Iraq, Rep. Silvestre Reyes, the soon-to-be chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said he wants to see an increase of 20,000 to 30,000 U.S. troops as part of a stepped up effort to “dismantle the militias.”

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 2:40 utc | 16

Democratic Leaders Rule Out Iraq Funds Cutoff

Congresswoman Pelosi made her position clear as House Democrats met to discuss options and a future position on Iraq.
Pelosi says the meeting highlighted that there are no easy answers to “the very difficult challenge” in Iraq, but she nonetheless stated her firm opposition to any funding cutoff:
“Absolutely not,” she said. “Let me remove all doubt in anyone’s mind, as long as our troops are in harm’s way, Democrats will be there to support them. But we will have oversight over that funding.”

The War Party is firmly in control. The US will not leave Iraq before tens of thousands more are murdered and the US Treasury utterly depleted.
Bring ’em on!

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 2:44 utc | 17

Democratic Leaders Rule Out Iraq Funds Cutoff
Sorry.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 2:46 utc | 18

Quote:
The whole region will be devoured in a large-scale genocidal conflagration which will eventually consume Israel too… The USA’s whole global role will be diminished.

Definitely …What a hell Israelis were thinking? They stand no chance to stay there in a long run.
USA will eventually have to go to their “corner” (where they below anyway) and think about other strategy how to expand ( something like Germans had to after WWII) .And it’s sooo right. In the main time they’ll have to repay for generations for all the damage they made around the world. Unfortunately there is no price on so many killed…
Well all this looks like a dream …but suddenly it doesn’t look that much unrealistic to me. I must be naïve. Although the “price” for things to level where they should be is very high…
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This will lead to political and possibly military confrontation and finger-pointing in the US because of the internal divisions in American society created by DeLay and Rove. The Second American Civil War?

Well I don’t think so. Except if some kind of economic crises (of kind like 1929 ) hit USA. Political instability , yes. This should be the end of “two party” system that is wrong anyway…

Posted by: vbo | Dec 7 2006 3:05 utc | 19

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These bastards are beyond belief.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 3:08 utc | 20

Quote:
These bastards are beyond belief.

Posted by: vbo | Dec 7 2006 3:29 utc | 21

Bernhard,
I wasted over two hours this evening watching CNN, MSNBC, and FOX and got nothing out of it. Your initial short analysis here was full of facts and insight. Thank You.

Posted by: Rick Happ | Dec 7 2006 3:44 utc | 22

“We believe it is still possible to pursue different policies that can give Iraq an opportunity for a better future, combat terrorism, stabilize a critical region of the world, and protect America’s credibility, interests, and values.”

Yes we believe… because we must, we have no choice. It’s going to be a long read at this rate.
Iraq will have a better future if the occupation is lifted and Iraqis allowed to assess their situation and to act in response to their assessment, rather than to continue to be forced to react to their occupation by a foreign force which has never had their interests in mind at all. There’s enough time left in 2006 for our troops to be completely evacuated from Iraq and the region.
We can “combat terrorism” by ceasing our activities in the Middle East and around the world which have incited and continue to incite terrorism. At the heart of these is our continued funding and support of the Israeli far-right’s campaign of murder and expropriation against the Palestinian nation.
We cannot stabilize this critical region of the world, we can only cease destablizing it. But that will be a great improvement since we are completely and utterly responsible for the chaos into which the region has been plunged by our shocking, awful invasion and occupation more than three years ago.
Restoring our credibility is a generational project, and a byproduct of our more pressing concerns.
Our interests have never had anything to do with this shocking, awful neocon adventure. We must reassert the primacy of our interests and explicitly disavow the neocons’. As well, the perceived interests of the multinational oils and the military industrial complex are not our interests. They are not the interests of America and Americans.
Our values have only been honored in their breech. Not least of our professed values is “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends [the securing of these certain unalienable Rights], it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
And that is what we must be about.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 3:46 utc | 23

Yes, I know, technically this doesn’t belong on this thread – but the Flowers ‘n’ Sweets title made it irresistable…and the day when this happens in Iraq may not be too far off, given that they have no plan to withdraw –
A report from the German military, the Bundeswehr, warns that the Taliban is approaching Kabul and that attacks on the capital city are likely to increase. Security in nearby districts is already deteriorating.

The leadership of Germany’s military, the Bundeswehr, fear that Taliban attacks on the Afganistan capital of Kabul will likely increase in the coming months. According to a classified report on the state of Afghanistan obtained by SPIEGEL, “militant opposition forces” have made it clear that they will focus fighting during the winter “on the country’s largest cities.”
The security situation has already “visibly deteriorated” in two districts located just 10 kilometers from Kabul’s city limits — to the point that Afghan security forces don’t even dare to patrol the streets at night. The report warned that Taliban fighters could use the district as “gateways” to Kabul and also as place where they could stage future attacks.
link

Posted by: jj | Dec 7 2006 4:42 utc | 24

The military also changed its policy in reporting wounded GI’s: those who require less than 72 hours in the hospital are considered merely “injured” and not worthy of being listed.
Real men don’t whie about little scrapes and buises, do they?

Posted by: ralphieboy | Dec 7 2006 6:49 utc | 25

A good Nation piece written by an U.S. Green Baret (special operations unit, quite culture aware) who is an embedded advisor to the Iraqi military.
A Soldier’s Story

To play the role of a combat adviser–something American military personnel are increasingly asked to do–is to live within a foreign culture and to train and fight with a foreign military. Many American soldiers are not capable of such an important role or mission. The job is long, very difficult, and set within a very austere, hostile and unfamiliar environment. The adviser becomes culturally isolated and so requires a unique personality combined with extensive training; but most lack this expertise and inclination. It’s a sink-or-swim job, and most candidates sink after only a few months. They then retreat inside the shells of themselves and soon become combat advisers who do not interact or even advise. They thus form adviser teams that are dysfunctional and counterproductive. They exist until the day arrives when they can return home to a place that is familiar, where they are not hated.

Read it and you will understand that the Backer/Hamiltan recommendation of additional advisors will only have negative effects. There are only a few dozents of Green Barets available not thousands.

Posted by: b | Dec 7 2006 7:23 utc | 26

@Ralphieboy, speaking of whining – on the other end they’re redefining things as well. Soldiers coming back an emotional wreck – ie. any who were sane to begin w/!! – & thus would cost Vet. Admin. buckolas for psychological readjustment care, are being taken care of at the swish of the pen. They’re Redefined as having Personality Disorders – which they define as untreatable hence no care required & further something they brought in w/them & hence are not eligible for any compensation!! Nifty…
In case this hasn’t been posted, here’s Zbig’s take on the ISG. Even more notable is that he had to go to England to have it printed…

The long-awaited Baker-Hamilton Study Group report assessing broader US policy options in Iraq is a lengthy compromise statement reflecting a typical, middle-of-the-road consensus among an elite Washington “focus group”, composed of esteemed individuals not handicapped by much historical or geopolitical familiarity with the region’s problems.

Neither document faces squarely two basic and troubling realities: that since in Iraq (except for Kurdistan) real power is not in the hands of the Iraqi politicians resident in the US-protected Green Zone in Baghdad, any political solution must engage the Shia theocracy, with its militias; and that the longer the American occupation continues, the already declining US influence in the Middle East will give way to regional extremism and instability, especially if continuing indecision over the basic strategic choices in Iraq continue to be matched by US unwillingness to address the negative regional consequences of Israel’s prolonged and increasingly repressive occupation of the Palestinians.

The president, and America’s political leadership, must recognise that the US role in the world is being gravely undermined by the policies launched more than three years ago. The destructive war in Iraq, the hypocritical indifference to the human dimensions of the stalemate in Israeli-Palestinian relations, the lack of diplomatic initiative in dealing with Iran and the frequent use of Islamophobic rhetoric are setting in motion forces that threaten to push America out of the Middle East, with dire consequences for itself and its friends in Egypt, Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.
America needs a strategic change of course, and it has to be undertaken on a broad front. It must accept the fact that real leadership in Iraq should be based on a coalition of the Shia clergy commanding the loyalty of Shia militias and of the autonomous Kurds and that the sooner a date is set for US departure, the sooner the authentic Iraqi leaders will be able to enlist Iraq’s neighbours in a wider regional effort to promote a more stable Iraq. It must also engage its allies in a joint definition of the basic parameters of an Israeli-Palestinian settlement, for the two parties to the conflict will never do so on their own. Last but not least, the US must be ready to pursue multilateral and bilateral talks with Iran, including regional security issues.
link
This clown doesn’t even know that the war was initially waged by dispossessed Sunnis, or doesn’t he care??

Posted by: jj | Dec 7 2006 7:28 utc | 27

Will It Work on the Battlefield?

“By the first quarter of 2008, subject to unexpected developments in the security situation on the ground, all combat brigades not necessary for force protection could be out of Iraq,” the study group says.
Jack Keane, the retired Army chief of staff who served on the group’s panel of military advisers, described that goal as entirely impractical. “Based on where we are now we can’t get there,” General Keane said in an interview, adding that the report’s conclusions say more about “the absence of political will in Washington than the harsh realities in Iraq.”

The group’s final military recommendations were not discussed with the retired officers who serve on the group’s Military Senior Adviser Panel before publication, several of those officers said.

Posted by: b | Dec 7 2006 7:31 utc | 28

What the hell is “force protection”?

Posted by: jj | Dec 7 2006 7:37 utc | 29

This ISF report is a lot to read, but there are no surprises — just corporate super-lawyers seeking to carve up Iraq for the second time since the Brits first did it after the War to End All Wars.
Ah, but the game’s afoot, Watson. Events already overtake even the Great Grey Men of Washington.
The core goal of the Baker Group’s blossoming intervention into this failed Presidency is to get the US disengaged from direct combat by the dawn of 2008, so that the GOP can run as a responsible political party, a party of grownups. Again. For honest and real this time.
No plan will be forthcoming to actually leave Iraq, since we cannot actually leave that oil and still go on as a superpower. That’s right out, mate.
What we can do is withdraw from the street brawl, or pick one side in the brawl to back up with weapons and training.
The problem is, this ethnic war, this regional war between Shia and Sunni, has already begun to involve the surrounding nations, and they will be backing their brawlers just as lavishly as we American taxpayers will be required to do. It’s a new arms race, and these Old Grey Men just love those.
It is this wider war, which is already starting, that will surprise the Great Grey Men, bring down this President, and literally — actually — chase the US troops out of the region.

Posted by: Antifa | Dec 7 2006 8:00 utc | 30

What the hell is “force protection”?
Guarding the embassy, the air-bases and the oil …

Posted by: b | Dec 7 2006 8:27 utc | 31

Thanks.

Posted by: jj | Dec 7 2006 8:44 utc | 32

Steele: Baker’s predictable plan is what Bush is already doing

The third purpose in appointing Baker’s panel is the most extraordinary. The country’s political elite wants to ignore the American people’s doubts and build a new consensus behind a strategy of staying in Iraq on an open-ended basis, with no exit in sight. “Success depends on unity of the American people at a time of political polarisation … Foreign policy is doomed to failure – as is any action in Iraq – if not supported by broad, sustained consensus,” say Baker and his Democratic co-chair, Lee Hamilton, in their introduction. In other words, if things go wrong, it will be the American people’s fault for not trusting in the wisdom of their leaders.

Posted by: b | Dec 7 2006 9:05 utc | 33

@b – that’s what I was referring to last night, when I noted that it sounds like a declaration of war on Americans – doesn’t that imply & otherwise justify massive persecution of dissenters from elite consensus?
Since Zbig notes that Israeli-Palestinian nightmare has to be resolved to clean up the mess in ME, let me throw this in. Jimmy Carter just said:
“I can’t imagine a presidential candidate saying, ‘I’m going to take a balanced position toward the Israelis and the Palestinians,’ and getting elected,” he said. “It’s inconceivable.” link As I recall Howard Dean said something to that effect early in his campaign, and we know what they did to him…May not be unrelated.

Posted by: jj | Dec 7 2006 9:14 utc | 34

I never really thought the ISG was about anything other than internal U.S. politics, givin the makeup of the group (like ed meese), but nontheless, it is interesting if not unprecedented in american politics. It’s suprising the group has gotten as much press as it has, and good reason to look closer. The much touted “bipartisan” character of the group is of particular note — givin that the entire Iraq project from the beginning was rabidly partisan, in a vicious circle sort of way — dividing the country in order to (against the will of the country) have its way in Iraq. Now bush is confronted with an alliance of the rich and famous from his own party and the rich and famous from the previously and belatedly demonised party speaking now in one voice. And this one voice has had the effect, so far, of totally disarming whatever the president might say — it has effectivly isolated him into the corner of the chessboard, unable to move. Interestingly, the big question now raised in the (substantial) media coverage is, not so much what change in strategy might be necessary, or even possible but, is anything they might do already rendered — to late.
But then again, with the holiday season upon us — why not see this for what it is, a re-scripting of Dickens’ A Christmas Carol, with the ghosts of Christmas past coming home to roost. And with poetic justice hopefull, the bah-humbug in chief never makes it out of the graveyard — where he eternally belongs.

Posted by: anna missed | Dec 7 2006 9:21 utc | 35

During my three weeks without internet last month, I spent a fair amount of time watching cable news around the election, and quickly came to realize the form of the Iraq Study Group. The Democrats, while the have certain differences with the Republicans on foreign policy, don’t have any issues with the premises behind the neocon war machine – the only difference with between neoliberals and neoconservatives being whether the iron fist has a velvet glove on it or not. Thus how Iraq got messed up is framed as a competence issue, not a something inherently wrong from the start.
The Democrats, by virtue of appearing to be an opposition party, managed to win an election somehow, but now needed a cover for a concept of how to manage Iraq. Not the war itself, of course they have no idea how to run an empire, but how to manage perception. Naturally, they piggy-backed onto this idea of a “bipartisan” commission as something to wait for before they made their plan, because “bipartisan”, as opposed to “independent” or even “useful,” is the key to managing the media…which they still think manages the American people (and it does, to a certain point, at least prevent outright rebellion.)
Thus the report represents little more than the coming together of the Americanist (war) party after a brief split apparent in election results. It is a proclamation, to each other, that they’re still on the same side and nothing drastic can, or should, be done. It’s a mask put on to assuage the American people. To the Iraq War, as something specific, real, and not a measure of perception…it’s meaningless.
(though I realize that this is hardly news to the bar patrons here, I’m trying to organize my own thoughts on the subject.)

Posted by: Rowan | Dec 7 2006 9:33 utc | 36

good one anna missed

Posted by: annie | Dec 7 2006 10:03 utc | 37

Rowan, (nothing personal,but)
Where’s your Christmas spirit? The democrats, and lately the republicans want de-spirit-ly the bad dream to be over — want the great american exceptionalism to rise from its past sins in a gesture of its inherent benevolence, and yes sublimily, to embellish our collective — amnesia — to our sins, as the acceptable price of doing business, and spreading cheer to the unwashed masses. Now go out and buy something.

Posted by: anna missed | Dec 7 2006 10:09 utc | 38

And, just in case, as a testament to my own christmas spirit, we’ve decided to backtrack to the good old days and have procured (from craigs list) an original 50’s genuine aluminum christmas tree. I hated them as a kid growing up, but I can now see that they were in fact, a most wonderful expression of yankee innovation and utility. As a kid I would’nt have understood the value of the tripod metal base and its little non-slip rubber feet. Let alone the fact that its a big shiny mesmerizing thing, year after (fucking) year.

Posted by: anna missed | Dec 7 2006 10:47 utc | 39

I agree w/Rick Happ at #22
B’s analysis here is far and away above most other places I visit…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 7 2006 11:04 utc | 40

anna missed thanks for your cutting analysis. Likewise Rowan … at least we can see this debacle for what it is. Afghanistan is heading south too, the British forces had a bad day.
I recommend this story from one of the few Arabic-speaking soldiers in Iraq, linked above by Bernhard:
A Soldier’s Story

But for a year I have also been an observer of an immensely complicated situation. I am a soldier who fights alongside Iraqis, and I interact daily with and hear the words of Iraqi soldiers, civilians and insurgents alike. Through their eyes I see the strengths, foibles and faults of my military and culture. Sometimes I wish for the return of my ignorance. If no one else can understand my distress, I hope other Americans who fought shoulder to shoulder with other cultures–the French, Filipino, the Nungs and Yards and tribesmen of Vietnam, Laos, Thailand and Cambodia–will understand.

Thank you Major Bill Edmonds, at least you are communicating.
I agree that there is no way that the US can let go of its humongous investment in Iraq, they say almost a thousand million dollars (a billion) spent on the almost-completed Vatican I mean embassy.
The stakes for the oil must be higher than billions, even a thousand billion (trillion) dollars that will be spent in Iraq.
Those are big numbers.

Posted by: jonku | Dec 7 2006 11:12 utc | 41

jj:

America needs a strategic change of course, and it has to be undertaken on a broad front. It must accept the fact that real leadership in Iraq should be based on a coalition of the Shia clergy commanding the loyalty of Shia militias and of the autonomous Kurds and that the sooner a date is set for US departure, the sooner the authentic Iraqi leaders will be able to enlist Iraq’s neighbours in a wider regional effort to promote a more stable Iraq. It must also engage its allies in a joint definition of the basic parameters of an Israeli-Palestinian settlement, for the two parties to the conflict will never do so on their own. Last but not least, the US must be ready to pursue multilateral and bilateral talks with Iran, including regional security issues.

That sounds right to me. What’s so clownish about it?

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 11:14 utc | 42

is it just coincidence that a high number (10) of GI’s were killed in Iraq yesterday ?
meanwhile, the other ISG, “Insurgents-Study-Group” will look to make Iraq so ungovernable for whomever becomes president in 2008 that he/she will not want to extend the trauma of the Iraq war for very long into his/her watch.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Dec 7 2006 11:40 utc | 43

Quote:
That sounds right to me. What’s so clownish about it?

Where are Sunnies?

Posted by: vbo | Dec 7 2006 11:49 utc | 44

Antonia Juhasz’s latest: Oil for Sale: Iraq Study Group Recommends Privatization

In its heavily anticipated report released on Wednesday, the Iraq Study Group made at least four truly radical proposals.
The report calls for the United States to assist in privatizing Iraq’s national oil industry, opening Iraq to private foreign oil and energy companies, providing direct technical assistance for the “drafting” of a new national oil law for Iraq, and assuring that all of Iraq’s oil revenues accrue to the central government. President Bush hired an employee from the U.S. consultancy firm Bearing Point Inc. over a year ago to advise the Iraq Oil Ministry on the drafting and passage of a new national oil law. . As previously drafted, the law opens Iraq’s nationalized oil sector to private foreign corporate investment, but stops short of full privatization. The ISG report, however, goes further, stating that “the United States should assist Iraqi leaders to reorganize the national oil industry as a commercial enterprise.” In addition, the current Constitution of Iraq is ambiguous as to whether control over Iraq’s oil should be shared among its regional provinces or held under the central government. The report specifically recommends the latter: “Oil revenues should accrue to the central government and be shared on the basis of population.”If these proposals are followed, Iraq’s national oil industry will be privatized and opened to foreign firms, and in control of all of Iraq’s oil wealth.
The proposals should come as little surprise given that two authors of the report, James A. Baker III and Lawrence Eagleburger, have each spent much of their political and corporate careers in pursuit of greater access to Iraq’s oil and wealth.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 7 2006 12:01 utc | 45

Thanks, vbo. How can you resolve anything when you’re still excluding from power the Sunnis who have run the country, not to mention staffed the military? Not to mention considering partition that leaves Sunnis w/no oil.
And, thanks Uncle for that critical piece. No point in yakking about strategy & tactics w/out discussing disposition of wealth at the heart of the power struggle.
So, where have we moved w/ISG? They still want to exclude the Sunnis & steal the oil. Oh, & forget talking w/Iran til they’ve shelved any nuclear development, which they’re legally entitled to do under the NPT. Ummmm….
Well at least the doofus bloggers can’t just continue to blame it on having a Dimwit in WH. (Speaking of which, I caught interesting tidbit today. Thom Hartmann mentioned it – and he is a very reliable source. Didn’t anyone else wonder how they got him through Yale? Yes, he flunked out 4 times, and only was allowed back to graduate after family (Grandpa?) gave ’em $40M to build Auditorium. But still how will they rig it? Does Dean call professors & tell ’em to turn in C- grades? Or does Dean’s Office Order Records Office to change F’s? He literally cannot read a book. Hartmann said that people were hired to take the tests for him… DaddyBush said he wasn’t worried about the stuff that was leaking out about his past. There was only one disclosure that would doom him. I assumed it was his homosexuality. Now I think this might be it. How would Americans feel about that? Just think we now have a govt. run by 2 Yale Flunkouts!)

Posted by: jj | Dec 7 2006 12:51 utc | 46

I know this is OT, but since we’re talking about totally destructive Foreign Policy & Oil, it fits right in – totally insane otherworldy domestic policy.
Bored breathing so much oxygen. Good ‘cuz you might soon get more lead to inhale, eat, etc.
The Bush administration is considering doing away with health standards that cut lead from gasoline, widely regarded as one of the nation’s biggest clean-air accomplishments.
Battery makers, lead smelters, refiners all have lobbied the administration to do away with the Clean Air Act limits.
A preliminary staff review released by the Environmental Protection Agency this week acknowledged the possibility of dropping the health standards for lead air pollution. The agency says revoking those standards might be justified “given the significantly changed circumstances since lead was listed in 1976” as an air pollutant.
The EPA says concentrations of lead in the air have dropped more than 90 percent in the past 2 1/2 decades.
link

Posted by: jj | Dec 7 2006 13:06 utc | 47

What struck me first about this document was its arrogance. The authors still think that they are in charge in Iraq and that it is their mission to reorder that country to suit their needs.

59p77
The most important issues facing Iraq’s future are now the responsibility of Iraq’s elected leaders. Because of the security and assistance it provides, the United States has a significant role to play. Yet only the government and people of Iraq can make and sustain certain decisions critical to Iraq’s future.
The Iraqi government needs to show its own citizens — and the citizens of the United States and other countries — that it deserves continued support.

The majority of Iraqis do not want anymore of the US’ “continued support.” Perhaps the US puppet does. This document is a fraud from the start.
What is appropriate now is humility. All the problems in Iraq are the direct consequence of the greed of the oil patch and the political ambitions of the Israeli far-right as carried out by their agents here in the US. It is not for the US to claim that the Iraqi government musr show “that it deserves continued support”, unless you are admitting that the present Iraqi regime is the puppet of the US and are still doggedly pushing forward with your pursuit of Iraqi oil. I guess the “realist” part of the assessment is that this group is willing to jettison the likudnik element. The chips are down. They want the oil. The likudniks were helpful getting the horse out of the barn, now who needs ’em?
Baker, Bush XLI and Cheney are from the oil patch and first and foremost they want the oil

24p42
The politics of oil has the potential to further damage the country’s
already fragile efforts to create a unified central government.

The Iraqi Constitution leaves the door open for regions
to take the lead in developing new oil resources.
Article 108
states that “oil and gas are the ownership of all the peoples of
Iraq in all the regions and governorates,” while Article 109
tasks the federal government with “the management of oil and
gas extracted from current fields.” This language has led to
contention over what constitutes a “new” or an “existing” resource,
a question that has profound ramifications for the ultimate
control of future oil revenue.

They wrote the “Iraqi” constitution and specifically that provision is their foot in the door to Iraq’s oil wealth. The undeveloped fields that Cheney discussed at the meeting with big oil that he still refuses to provide the minutes of.

39p57
While such devolution [partition of Iraq] is a possible consequence of continued instability in Iraq, we do not believe the United States should support this course as a policy goal or impose this outcome on the Iraqi state. If events were to move irreversibly in this direction, the United States should manage the situation to ameliorate humanitarian consequences, contain the spread of violence, and minimize regional instability. The United States should support as much as possible central control by governmental authorities in Baghdad, particularly on the question of oil revenues.

They want one stop shopping. Cut the deal with their puppets and lock it up.

45p63
RECOMMENDATION 2: The goals of the diplomatic offensive as it relates to regional players should be to:

  • i. Support the unity and territorial integrity of Iraq.
  • ii. Stop destabilizing interventions and actions by Iraq’s neighbors.
  • iii. Secure Iraq’s borders, including the use of joint patrols with neighboring countries.
  • iv. Prevent the expansion of the instability and conflict beyond Iraq’s borders.
  • v. Promote economic assistance, commerce, trade, political support, and, if possible, military assistance for the Iraqi government from non-neighboring Muslim nations.
  • vi. Energize countries to support national political reconciliation in Iraq.
  • vii. Validate Iraq’s legitimacy by resuming diplomatic relations, where appropriate, and reestablishing embassies in Baghdad.
  • viii. Assist Iraq in establishing active working embassies in key capitals in the region (for example, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia).
  • ix. Help Iraq reach a mutually acceptable agreement on Kirkuk.
  • x. Assist the Iraqi government in achieving certain security, political, and economic milestones, including better performance on issues such as national reconciliation, equitable distribution of oil revenues, and the dismantling of militias.
  • They want the Sunnis to have a good piece of the action. The Sunnis know how to behave. Look at Saudi Arabia.

    60p78
    RECOMMENDATION 23: The President should restate that the United States does not seek to control Iraq’s oil.

    Lie about your intentions. It’s essential.

    65p83
    RECOMMENDATION 28: Oil revenue sharing. Oil revenues should accrue to the central government and be shared on the basis of population. No formula that gives control over revenues from future fields to the regions or gives control of oil fields to the regions is compatible with national reconciliation.

    Sunni control of oil revenues, on the Saudi model.

    82p100
    Since the success of the oil sector is critical to the success of the Iraqi economy, the United States must do what it can to help Iraq maximize its capability. Iraq, a country with promising oil potential, could restore oil production from existing fields to 3.0 to 3.5 million barrels a day over a three- to five-year period, depending on evolving conditions in key reservoirs. Even if Iraq were at peace tomorrow, oil production would decline unless current problems in the oil sector were addressed.

    The Iraqis have had all the “help” they can stand at the hands of these bastards already. This is “help yourself” help to the oil patch.

    84p102
    RECOMMENDATION 62:

  • As soon as possible, the U.S. government should provide technical assistance to the Iraqi government to prepare a draft oil law that defines the rights of regional and local governments and creates a fiscal and legal framework for investment. Legal clarity is essential to attract investment.
  • The U.S. government should encourage the Iraqi government to accelerate contracting for the comprehensive well workovers in the southern fields needed to increase production, but the United States should no longer fund such infrastructure projects.
  • The U.S. military should work with the Iraqi military and with private security forces to protect oil infrastructure and contractors. Protective measures could include a program to improve pipeline security by paying local tribes solely on the basis of throughput (rather than fixed amounts).
  • Metering should be implemented at both ends of the supply line. This step would immediately improve accountability in the oil sector.
  • In conjunction with the International Monetary Fund, the U.S. government should press Iraq to continue reducing subsidies in the energy sector, instead of providing grant assistance. Until Iraqis pay market prices for oil products, drastic fuel shortages will remain.
  • 85p103
    RECOMMENDATION 63:

  • The United States should encourage investment in Iraq’s oil sector by the international community and by international energy companies.
  • The United States should assist Iraqi leaders to reorganize the national oil industry as a commercial enterprise, in order to enhance efficiency, transparency, and accountability.
  • To combat corruption, the U.S. government should urge the Iraqi government to post all oil contracts, volumes, and prices on the Web so that Iraqis and outside observers can track exports and export revenues.
  • The United States should support the World Bank’s efforts to ensure that best practices are used in contracting. This support involves providing Iraqi officials with contracting templates and training them in contracting, auditing, and reviewing audits.
  • The United States should provide technical assistance to the Ministry of Oil for enhancing maintenance, improving the payments process, managing cash flows, contracting and auditing, and updating professional training programs for management and technical personnel.
  • All pretense of a “sovereign Iraq” is dropped when they talk about taking over Iraqi production and contracting oil field services.
    The US military is now plainly seen as a force to protect the wells, refineries, and pipelines. “War is a racket”. We need a statue to Smedley Butler on The Mall!
    Recommendation 63 is nothing other than a mob takeover. They’re offering a deal the Iraqis can’t refuse. So they think. They have no chips. These are the “realists”?
    There are other wild recommendations. Making the State Department a branch of Defense. Making soldiers of the employees of practically all other government departments and shipping them for tours overseas. Wild flights of fancy on what they’re going to make other nations in the region do via Diplomatic Offensives.
    This whole report is offensive. And it is anything but reality based.
    We’re going to be in Iraq until the US Treasury can no longer sell the bonds to finance the occupation.
    bbo && JJ:
    I don’t discount the Sunnis at all. It’s just that this regime is trying to parlay Sunni fears into its entree to the Iraqi oil fields and that will prolong the civli war and not deliver the oil fields in any case.
    Times have changed. The wind is filling the Shia’s sails now. They are going to come out the winners in Iraq and Iran and Lebanon… and Saudi Arabia?
    And the US is living on its reputation and is THE superpower in its own imagination only. It’s over.
    Of course this “analysis” is worth just what you’ve paid for it.

    Posted by: John Francis Lee | Dec 7 2006 13:13 utc | 48