Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
November 9, 2006
WB: Still the White People’s Party

Billmon:

And now I’m sure the Dems will immediately repay their most loyal supporters by firmly embracing policies of social justice and economic opportunity for those at the bottom of the sdfqiiwe82ds2.ks2/,

Still the White People’s Party

Comments

you left out the native americans

Posted by: b real | Nov 9 2006 20:39 utc | 1

During this New American Century, the USA will become a minority-white country, with voting-enabled brown people running around every damn where you look. And running the place, too.
Whether Billmon lives to see this egalitarian utopia depends on how many times he has already celebrated his 29th birthday. And on how well he watches what he says.
There is an internment camp of wood frame huts and razor wire about 32 minutes by car from Laramie, Wyoming. Just one of many camps constructed by Halliburton lately, this one is distinguished only by its total lack of internet or electricity or even windows to spend the day looking into or out of.
And, the sign hung somewhat crookedly on the front gate:
Camp Billmon
.

Posted by: Antifa | Nov 9 2006 21:02 utc | 2

Not even… a whiskey bottle? (gulp) At (gulp) Camp Billmon?

Posted by: Bea | Nov 9 2006 21:24 utc | 3

Real women go to Teheran. (Pelosi, more..)
June 2003
Rep. Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the House Democratic leadership wrote President Bush on Friday criticizing him for saying he was “troubled” by Israel’s failed attempt to kill a leader of the radical Palestinian Hamas group. Even before the letter organized by Rep. Robert Matsui, D-Sacramento, was sent, the White House had cooled its criticism of Israel….
link
Oct. 2003
Pelosi: “Syria’s assistance to terrorist organizations is well known, and the State Department continues to list Syria as a state sponsor of terrorism, in violation of resolutions on that issue by the United Nations Security Council. The Bekaa Valley in Lebanon, which Syria controls, provides a haven and the site of training facilities for Hezbollah, Hamas, and other terrorist groups. These activities could not occur without the assent of the Syrian government.
“The people of Israel and the cause of peace in the Middle East have been the traditional targets of the groups helped by Syria, but today’s attack on the U.S. convoy in Gaza is a reminder that the United States, and our interests around the world, are foremost on terrorist target lists. Dealing with the problem of terrorism must be our chief priority.
“One of the lessons learned thus far in the war on terrorism is that there can be no success without disrupting the support networks on which terrorists rely. Rhetoric has thus far not been effective in encouraging the Syrian government to cease its assistance to terrorists, and to remove its forces from Lebanon.”
link
June 2005
“If Iran is on the verge of a nuclear weapon, I think we will have no choice but to take decisive action,” said ex-Pentagon advisor Richard Perle as he drew loud cheers from the AIPAC loyalists. New York Senator Hilary Clinton, before she introduced Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to the crowd, said that a nuclear-armed Iran would be “unacceptable.” Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic leader in the House also chimed in, saying, “The greatest threat to Israel’s right to exist, with the prospect of devastating violence, now comes from Iran.”
link
July 2006
“I will support this resolution and urge my colleagues to do so as well. At a difficult time for the state of Israel, this resolution reaffirms our unwavering support and commitment to Israel and condemns the attacks by Hezbollah. The seizure of Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah terrorists was an unprovoked attack and Israel has a right and an obligation to respond.
“As the fighting rages, it is imperative that the combatants take whatever steps they can to lessen risk to innocent civilians. The world knows too well the horrors of war. But there are ways to offer some degree of protection to civilians, and it is right to insist that those ways be chosen. Using civilians as shields by concealing weapons in civilian areas, as done by Hezbollah, is inconsistent with affording them protection, and this resolution properly condemns that action.”
link
Oct. 2006
Rep. Pelosi Does Not Believe The War In Iraq Is Part Of The War On Terror.
Rep. Pelosi: “The issue is them. The issue is the war they got us into. If the President wants to say the war in Iraq is part of the War on Terror, he’s not right.”
CBS’s Lesley Stahl: “Do you not think that the war in Iraq now, today, is the War on Terror?” Rep. Pelosi: “No. The War on Terror is the war in Afghanistan.” (CBS’ “60 Minutes” )
link
Oct. 2006
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi stressed in the online discussion that “the war in Iraq has made both America and Israel less safe.” Rep. Alcee Hastings, the Florida Democrat who is a candidate to chair the House Intelligence Committee if the Democrats win Congress, argued that “Republican foreign policy strategy in Iraq has encouraged terrorist acts against Israel, and has made other nations less likely to cooperate with U.S. policies in the region.” The Democrats also claimed that the ongoing war in Iraq complicates the situation in the entire region, making it more difficult for the United States to deal with Iran’s nuclear program.
link

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 9 2006 21:59 utc | 4

Good looking Billmon.
in 2004, Bush won 58% of the White vote.
so the Dems have actually made good progress on this front, but not in the South.
when will the Dems get it that politics of appeasement is not going to sway the South.
if todays Repubs were not so dismal at government, the Dems would really be screwed for a good while.
The Dems should just come out and tell it like it is about the Southern White vote. Make Southerners think about this stuff. Let them know that some of them of them are the enablers for Repub rule & its consequences. Let them know how backward it is that some of them are still enslaved to unhealthy dysfunctional beliefs from back when they think was a better time. And let them know it was not a better time, period. It was a hellish time for as long as everyone was in chains, both Black & the White master.
And why is this so hard. Its not like the Dems are going to carry the South by being so timid.

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Nov 9 2006 22:02 utc | 5

I’m told, deoderant such as ‘Rightguard’ poured through whitebread makes a fine alcoholic beverage, after the initial shock and long hours of camp work one must fine some comforts eh?
the second or third cup is the best, you forget that you have had turnips and cabbage soup for 8 days straight while you pick nits out of your hair…
“I lose hope when the desire for life awakens within me; but I regain it whenever the longing for death comes upon me.” ~Gustaw Herling – Grudzinski (pdf)

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 9 2006 22:05 utc | 6

The golden rule will always be in effect, no matter what party is in power. “whoever has the gold rules.” Thus it will always be.

Posted by: Ben | Nov 9 2006 22:09 utc | 7

Uncharacteristically weak comment by Billmon, since this Congress will have a sudden shock of black committee chairmen. The ghost of Fred Hampton is not going to rise above the Dome, but there will be more powerful Afro-Americans in DC than ever.

Posted by: citizen k | Nov 9 2006 23:34 utc | 8

I think the basic difference between the parties is that egalitarians tend to belong to the Democratic Party, and people who believe in hierarchies tend strongly to belong to the Republican Party. As always, the hierarchy justifies itself in culturally acceptable terms — we all live in a meritocracy where the people with initiative and education would get ahead if the Democrats didn’t take it all and give it to lazy people who haven’t helped themselves, doncha know. As long as racism affects who’s higher up the hierarchy in money/status/connections, the beneficiaries of the racism will tend to prefer the hierarchical party. And however other issues, such as God and social conservatism, seem to be shared by the sufferers from the racism, they won’t support the Republicans.
White men and married white women who derive status from their husbands compare themselves to their parents and feel victimized by their slide in economic and status terms.

Posted by: nihil obstet | Nov 10 2006 1:46 utc | 9

And now I’m sure the Dems will immediately repay their most loyal supporters by firmly embracing policies of social justice and economic
…this is as far as I could get before laughing so hard I wet myself.
“firmly embracing policies of social justice”. Heh.
Oh, and Margaret Warner on PBS’ The Flooze Hour just asked Byron Dorgan a question about the “Democrat Congress”. Ooopsie; your GOP thong is showing, Mags.

Posted by: Austin Cooper | Nov 10 2006 2:20 utc | 10

citizen k:
I refer you to Black Agenda Report for a rundown on the status of the Afro-Americans in the Congress.
Black Agenda Report is edited by Glen Ford and Bruce Dixon, with solid columns by Margaret Kimberley.
It’s a very valuable perspective, unique on the internet.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Nov 10 2006 2:30 utc | 11

Billmon said :

Which means the Democrats once again owe a great big thank you to the African-American and Hispanic voters of this country. Without them, the Rovians would still hold supreme power — and would have a fair prospect of preserving their 51% majority in perpetuity.

I certainly agree with that.
Thank you, African and Hispanic-Americans.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Nov 10 2006 2:33 utc | 12

The ghost of Fred Hampton is not going to rise above the Dome, but there will be more powerful Afro-Americans in DC than ever.
And I’m sure they will defy the corporations, the wealthy elites and their fellow Democrats and deliver the social services and economic opportunities their low-income constituents desperately need, no matter what the cost to their own personal qwwet04q4kcvn/pqowfo.,
Damn, gotta stop doing that.

Posted by: billmon | Nov 10 2006 2:41 utc | 13

This is an interesting story about a long press conference that Hugo Chavez held re the upcoming Venezuelan election, the latest US election results, and Chavez’ hopes for good relations with the US as during the Clinton era.
A realy interesting item is about contacts between Chavez and Kerry during the last presidential campaign. The reference to infiltrators is probably referring to wealthy Venezuelans who live in the US. One of the richest men in the world, Cisneros, lives in Venezuela and is a good friend of Bush Sr.
I wonder, to what extent have the Republicans poisoned US outlook on, and relations with, other countries?
Venezuela’s Chavez Welcomes Democrats’ Victory in U.S. Election
Thursday, Nov 09, 2006

Posted by: Owl | Nov 10 2006 3:13 utc | 14

Latinos Sunk Republicans in Mid-Term Elections

The last straw was the Sensenbrenner all-immigrants-are-criminals bill. The Republicans passed and sent to the president one provision of the Sensenbrenner Bill, to build a 1150 kilometer Great Wall of America along the US-Mexico border.
In Latin America and especially Mexico, as well as in Latino media throughout the US, it was seen as one more gratuitous insult, and one more reason to give the Republicans a thrashing.
Bustelo admits mass Latino repudiation of the Republicans may be meaningless, as many of the Democrats are just as bad to their interests.

Posted by: b real | Nov 10 2006 4:01 utc | 15

Jonathan Schwarz says it best:
It’s so nice to have the sane evil people back running a few things. Oh sane evil people, I will never take you for granted again.

Posted by: citizen | Nov 10 2006 4:26 utc | 16

Oh sane evil people, I will never take you for granted again.
A-fucking-men.
Although some in the crowd aren’t evil, just very, very timid.

Posted by: billmon | Nov 10 2006 5:07 utc | 17

i am relishing (salivating for) the upcoming conyers investigations

Posted by: annie | Nov 10 2006 6:07 utc | 18

MI5
chief’s warning on terrorism

MI5 knows of 30 terror plots and is keeping 1,600 individuals under surveillance, the security service’s head has said.

Snip:

Tomorrow’s threat may – I suggest will – include the use of chemicals, bacteriological agents, radioactive materials and even nuclear technology

And why you may ask did I post this here?
Because, the simile is just to glaring.
It’s still the white people’s party alright, in more ways than one follow along…
While you guys are partying like an Iraq[i] wedding party celebrating your choice of a new generation aka Pepsi i.e. democrats, the coke team is pulling back for a sucker punch. Get ready to be blindsided, as they call it.
As Joe Wilson says, “There are no tinfoil hats anymore.” and as soon as the above happens (I believe sooner rather than later) you will know the known unknowns…
Eliza Manningham-Buller knows of what she Speaks as she Speaks of what has already been planned.
From: Robert Gates
Director, Central Intelligence Agency
Testimony Before
the House Armed Services Committee
Defense Policy Panel
27 March
1992
9party like it’s 1992…
Gates:
— Although extensive and improving, Iran’s chemical weapon program remains relatively crude. Nevertheless, we expect Iran to develop chemical warheads for its Scud missiles within a few years.
— We also suspect that Iran is working toward a biological warfare capability.

Finally, from Bioweapons from Russia: Stemming the Flow Jonathan B. Tucker writes, “an article published in the December 8, 1998 edition of the New York Times alleged that the government of Iran has offered former BW scientists in Russia, Kazakhstan, and Moldova jobs paying as much as $5,000 a month, which is far more than these people can make in a year in Russia.” I have searched, but not yet confirmed whom the author of that article is, of course I wont know until I make it up to campus tommorow, but I suspect it’s none other than our lovely hazmat judy, aka Judith Miller

Iran has been particularly aggressive about recruiting former Soviet bioweapons scientists.

~Robert Gates
I got a feeling we are being set up like a pinata
Iran’s National Deterrent: Weapons of Mass Destruction Program
And of course, anything that happens will default to those evil brown people, the Brown Scapegoat Society …
Damn, this drink needs a refresh, barkeep!..

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 10 2006 6:58 utc | 19

“I got a feeling we are being set up like a pinata.”
I get an eerie feeling about it too at times Uncle. It almost seemed too easy. But hell maybe we just ‘hit the trifecta’.
Anyway hitting Iran ain’t going to be the ‘cakewalk’ Iraq was. Besides the Brass in all branches of the military aren’t stupid they know the problems are far more than Rumsfeld and they may not be too cooperative if the order comes down before January.

Posted by: pb | Nov 10 2006 7:24 utc | 20

Billmon wrote:
And I’m sure they will defy the corporations, the wealthy elites and their fellow Democrats and deliver the social services and economic opportunities their low-income constituents desperately need
Right… Just like Barack O’bomination did in supporting the Bankruptcy Bill…

Posted by: jj | Nov 10 2006 7:41 utc | 21

Jesus…just went to see what Marc Parent had up today..got this msg…Link. New Repression???… if anyone finds his new site, pls. pass it along…

Posted by: jj | Nov 10 2006 7:43 utc | 22

i got that feeling too. there is something very smelly about this victory i don’t trust.

Posted by: annie | Nov 10 2006 7:44 utc | 23

@jj:

I share your distaste for the man, but his name has no apostrophe. So that’s Obomination.

Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Nov 10 2006 9:06 utc | 24

Oh…thanks for the correction Truth!

Posted by: jj | Nov 10 2006 9:19 utc | 25

Of course not, billmon, but neither did Nelson Mandela. Don’t piss in the water just because you’d prefer champagne.

Posted by: citizen k | Nov 10 2006 14:49 utc | 26

@John Francis Lee #11
I read Margaret Kimberley at The Black Commentator … the past couple of months I have been busy with family matters and my reading time has been limited… I clicked on the BC website yesterday and could find her name nowhere in the list of articles… On another thread I noted your reference to the Black Agenda Report. Is it a spin-off of the BC? I used to find some of the best commentary online at BC…

Posted by: crone | Nov 10 2006 21:39 utc | 27

@JFL – thanks for the link – some good perspectives to find there (and some in evitable nerds of course) – it is some discussion I miss here in Europe.

Posted by: b | Nov 10 2006 21:48 utc | 28

Chris Bowers at mydd has some useful input:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/11/10/14200/519

Posted by: jony_b_cool | Nov 11 2006 12:22 utc | 29