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November 13, 2006
OT 06-107
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These folks really take any chance to piss off everybody: Poland warns on EU-Moscow partnership
ahem: A Glimpse of Army Special Operations Forces
Well, I’ve always thought it was downright moronic to extend the EU and still keep the retarder rule of unanimous voting for any kind of decision, apart for accepting new member-states. At least assuming the EU wants to work as a true federate organisation, which means that sooner or later no lone wanker can fuck up the whole system, but majority rules apply. And in case of the EU, there’s a solid argument that majority rule shoud mean both majority of the members and majority of the people as represented by their govts (basically, if you get Germany, France, UK and Italy opposed, your proposal is dead, but on the other hand, you’d still need something like 15 countries to pass a decision, being backed by 4-5 biggies wouldn’t be sufficient). Posted by: CluelessJoe | Nov 13 2006 11:24 utc | 3 ahem II: U.S. MILITARY CIVIL DISTURBANCE PLANNING: Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 13 2006 11:52 utc | 4 @Clueless – agree – I expect the EU to dissolve a bit over such conflicts and a new group of countries agreeing on a more democratic system evolving (France, Germany, Benelux possibly). The problem with your voting system is that of the Senate in the US. Some Senators represent some 100,000 people while others represent millions – not everybody is happy with that. Cornerstone:Domestic Military Intelligence
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 13 2006 12:39 utc | 6 So how does it make you feel that an Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 13 2006 12:53 utc | 7 B: This is all the trick of a federation. Posted by: CluelessJoe | Nov 13 2006 13:07 utc | 8 Palestinians have reportedly agreed on new prime minister for a national unity government to replace the elected Hamas-led government. That government was boycotted by the West, resulting in a devastating cutoff of funds that has resulted in widespread hunger and desperation among Palestinians. The new premier-designate, Mohammad Shbeir, holds a PhD in biology from the University of Virginia and was formerly president of Gaza’s Islamic University. Posted by: Bea | Nov 13 2006 15:24 utc | 9
Iran’s reaction to Olmert — from Haaretz:
Posted by: Bea | Nov 13 2006 16:20 utc | 10 The Swiss have a way of maintainga federal system without giving into the “tyranny of the majority” (which is make up of German speakers): a law must be approved not only by an overall majority, but by a majority of the Cantons: it means that the Germans cannot pass a law unless they have sufficient support from the French, Italian and Romani speaking areas. Posted by: ralphieboy | Nov 13 2006 16:48 utc | 11 A really good one by LondonYank: Iran: Why and How Iranians Must Be Attacked
First-hand testimony about last week’s the Beit Hanoun attack: Posted by: Bea | Nov 13 2006 17:36 utc | 13 Food, vaccines and rubber stamped invasions…news Posted by: Noirette | Nov 13 2006 17:47 utc | 14 yes ralphie boy, in Switzerland, for Popular (instigated by the people) “Initiatives” or “Referendums” at the Federal level that would modify the Constitution, both the majority of voters, AND the majority of cantons is needed for the matter to be accepted. (Some other matters will not be instigated by the people but will be obligatory referendums, put out by the Federal Council, e.g. joining the UN.) Posted by: Noirette | Nov 13 2006 18:49 utc | 15 I was astonished it was permissable to discuss the “corporatist kleptocracy” & the real aims of US imperialism at the DailySoros, as it is in b-‘s link above. (See #12). After all, what is Georgie Soros but a pre-eminent Kleptocrat. I checked to see if that was a buried diary. Answer is it wasn’t buried, so, not surprisingly, it may not be legal much longer. See this Convoluted Diary in response to that one. Posted by: jj | Nov 13 2006 19:37 utc | 16 Just happened to stumble across this amazing (and horrifying) snippet of video on YouTube of US soldiers in action in Iraq, committing what appears to be a war crime in vivo. It is dated only a few days ago. I am not sure where in Iraq it was taken. Posted by: Bea | Nov 13 2006 19:51 utc | 17 @bea #17 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 13 2006 20:14 utc | 18 Murray Waas: Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 13 2006 20:28 utc | 19 The Deadly — and Hidden — Cost of the Iraq War
Down at the end of the story, we find this:
Needless to say, those figures are not counted in the “costs” of war, but their costs will be long-term and extend far beyond each individual soldier, affecting the lives of each one’s circle of loved ones as well… Posted by: Bea | Nov 13 2006 20:57 utc | 20 jj: Well, it just goes to show that even in so-called Liberals, there is a large majority of completely stupid, clueless and uninformed people who should do well to forget forever they ever had the right to vote, because they’re barely smart enough to tie their shoes. Posted by: Clueless Joe | Nov 14 2006 1:02 utc | 21 Olmert warns US against ‘premature pullout’ from Iraq Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Nov 14 2006 1:08 utc | 22 More helpful advice from the Israelis, circa January, 2003. Posted by: Thrasyboulos | Nov 14 2006 1:11 utc | 23 Ron Paul is the bellringer..
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 14 2006 1:39 utc | 26 am i misreading Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 14 2006 1:44 utc | 27 There they go again, telling us exactly what they are planning… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 14 2006 1:51 utc | 29 Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) voted against the Iraqi War, against the PATRIOT Act, against torture, against wiretapping, against the loss of habeas corpus, etc. Pity we can’t say the same about most Democrats. Posted by: Ensley | Nov 14 2006 3:13 utc | 30 Those of you who read/understand kos site – I was curious to see the play the two diaries cited above have received, so I stopped by to see. I saw no reference to them on todays pages, or the diary list. What’s the deal? Do you think they were deleted, or what? Given that they were so impt. & the Iranian one made some exc. points, it should be featured – were we not talking about darling kos… Do they just bury the threatening ones? Posted by: jj | Nov 14 2006 3:34 utc | 31 In an interview with SPIEGEL ONLINE, CIA expert Ron Suskind accuses Washington of “running like a headless chicken” in its war against al-Qaida. He reserves special criticism for the CIA’s torture methods, which he argues are unproductive. Posted by: fauxreal | Nov 14 2006 4:18 utc | 32 Lest anyone think that Corruption isn’t a bi-partisan effort, the Congressional Watchdog Organization Citizens for Responsibility & Ethics in Washington (CREW) blasted Pelosi’s support of Murtha: Posted by: jj | Nov 14 2006 4:24 utc | 33 Newsdump:
Apparently, the argument the DOJ was using that detainees could spill the beans about “super doubleplus top-secret” CIA torture techniques being used on them was a bit too abstract for the general public, so they’ve dumbed down their position a little here. The new DOJ position is simply this: “These guys are terrorists, man! They’ll kill us all! They’re like… um… hamburgers… you wouldn’t give rights to a HAMBURGER, would you? WOULD YOU?? We’re at war! WAR! DEATH! You can’t change DEATH, man! Getting all… um… bendy about the Constitution just helps them! WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA??”
While this might sound like bad news on the face of it, it’s actually had a pretty bouying effect at the Capitol. If fear can be induced Pavlov-style with a minimum of effort, then the CIA/NSA might be able to reduce its propaganda budget in the future, freeing up more funds to be squandered by Halliburton.
The US Food and Drug Administration is hopeful that symptoms will include seizures, confusion, association of Joe Lieberman with Democrats, and the willingness to suspend basic civil rights in favor of demonstrably false delusions of personal security. Once that correlation is established, we can go ahead and have that monster avian flu epidemic we’ve been keeping on hold. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 14 2006 4:29 utc | 34 jj @31. to explain how dkos works. diaries that are recommended end up on the recommended list. they stay there until other diaries receive more recommendations. i read londonyank’s diary earlier today, probably around the same time as b, while it was on the recommended list. it is still on the site, but not on the front page. at times kos and other front-page writers (on the left side of the page) will bump diaries they think are particularly good to the left side of the page. i believe at times they might also bump diaries up to the recommended list on the right side, but i don’t know this for certain and i could very well be wrong. susang also works with a group of readers/posters to write a diary every night in which they highlight diaries that they found worthwhile but scrolled on by without reaching the recommended list. Posted by: conchita | Nov 14 2006 4:59 utc | 35 also jj, it did get over 700 comments. thats no slouch. i recommended it, did you? methinks that the way it stays up front Posted by: annie | Nov 14 2006 5:19 utc | 36 Researchers found that people who are especially sensitive to the physical signs of anxiety – from sweaty palms to a pounding heart – have a higher risk of developing anxiety disorders, including recurrent panic attacks. Posted by: annie | Nov 14 2006 5:34 utc | 37 Momentum …
For Evangelicals, Supporting Israel Is ‘God’s Foreign Policy’ b: Posted by: John Francis Lee | Nov 14 2006 10:06 utc | 39 “Any furriner on US soil can be held indefinitely on suspicion of terrorism without recourse to civil courts or due process of law.” – Bush Administration
Now that Bush has declared the new Military Commissions Act applies to foreigners held in Guantanamo as well as those residing legally in the US, all we need is a test case on citizens to round out the picture. Who wants to place a bet on how long it will be before that surfaces? I would guess it will be a matter of weeks at most. Posted by: Bea | Nov 14 2006 16:58 utc | 40 Sent to kill, sent to revenge, sent to be men, have a life, sent to live before death or mutilation, illness, sent to support Amerika: Posted by: Noirette | Nov 14 2006 18:54 utc | 41 @ Bea #17 Posted by: small coke | Nov 14 2006 20:06 utc | 42 chris floyd: No Exit: The Baker Commission and the Trap of Reality
ray mcgovern: Why the Iraq Study Group Won’t Get Us Out of Iraq
Posted by: b real | Nov 14 2006 20:07 utc | 43 noirette Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 14 2006 20:39 utc | 44 @slothrop Posted by: b real | Nov 14 2006 20:48 utc | 45 r giap i’m sure you are right .. Posted by: Noirette | Nov 14 2006 21:35 utc | 46 not surprised noirette – they are so lazy that if they could pay someone else to breathe for them they would Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 14 2006 21:59 utc | 47 re: #46 Posted by: catlady | Nov 15 2006 5:56 utc | 48 @Monolycus #34 Posted by: catlady | Nov 15 2006 6:02 utc | 49 OVERWHELMING MAJORITY SUPPORT DUBYA GUMP’s IMPEACHMENT! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 15 2006 7:09 utc | 50 For your late night amusement or edification or both…
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 15 2006 7:36 utc | 51 In response to the much heralded Iraq “Study” Group, the “decider” has initiated his own in house “study” group, including the “folks on the ground” in Iraq:
In keeping with todays all round surrealistic reportage. Posted by: anna missed | Nov 15 2006 9:53 utc | 52 Here we go again… Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 15 2006 10:26 utc | 53 Impeachment by Spring Posted by: beq | Nov 15 2006 13:33 utc | 54
guardian: Latin America is preparing to settle accounts with its white settler elite
Posted by: b real | Nov 15 2006 19:56 utc | 56 Unfortunately, I saw this one coming. I guess we can all relax now. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 16 2006 1:02 utc | 57
Posted by: John Francis Lee | Nov 16 2006 2:58 utc | 59 ha. there’s a typo in that tagline at monolycus’ link. obviously they meant advancing the cultures of free enterprise in america. pretty slimy article there. Posted by: b real | Nov 16 2006 3:58 utc | 60 Cutler has a good post up today comparing how (in Iraq) that within the administration the choice(s) amount to taking sides in the civil war. Of particular note, is an anti-Shiite screed posted by one Tim Greene. Who happens to be in charge of training Police Service Cadets in Amman Jordan — for the Iraqi Interior Ministry: LINK
This piece was scrubbed from its original posting. Its curious that this should appear simultaniously as talks are also being held in Amman supposedly between x-military, Baathist factions, insurgent groups and U.S. representatives. If a coup were being planned, this is probably how it would be undertaken. Posted by: anna missed | Nov 16 2006 5:06 utc | 61 France: USA Cause of Hatred for West
Posted by: b real | Nov 16 2006 5:07 utc | 62 @b real (#60) Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 16 2006 6:08 utc | 63 Al Jazeera English Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 16 2006 6:34 utc | 64 Peak Oil Theory is faulty – could distort policy & energy debate
CERA is chaired by Daniel Yergin, who’s not a scientist but more of an economist, it would seem. Does anyone here know more and could put this into better context? racism – pure and simple: 2007 budget to preserve gaps between Jewish, Arab schools
Sibel Edmonds has posted (the first part) of an essay Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Nov 16 2006 14:20 utc | 67 @annie #58 Posted by: Bea | Nov 16 2006 14:26 utc | 68 youtube: UCLA Police Taser Student in Powell for not producing an id card Posted by: b real | Nov 16 2006 18:46 utc | 69 article on ucla taser incident
Posted by: b real | Nov 16 2006 19:06 utc | 70 botched link above is Student shot with Taser by UCPD officers Posted by: b real | Nov 16 2006 19:28 utc | 71 Another — I think more troubling — aspect of the story (and not picked up by the LAT’s coverage) were these two graphs from the Daily Bruin article:
okay. of course everyone knew it was bullshit when he said it, but remember when, during bolton’s attacks on chavez after the u.n. appearance, bolton actually said that while chavez had the right to express his opinion “it’s too bad people in Venezuela don’t have free speech.”? get a load of this
there’s a video of the segment at the link (espanol only). i think i posted something another mention of the 3-4-5 plan previously – vote on the 3rd, mass protests on the 4th, golpe on the 5th – or something to that effect. Posted by: b real | Nov 17 2006 4:04 utc | 73 ap: Venezuela-Owned Citgo Sued by Companies
ain’t that something…
Posted by: b real | Nov 17 2006 4:27 utc | 74 Senator Chris Dodd plans to introduce amendments to the Military Commissions Act that would restore habeas corpus. Of course, Bush would likely veto such a bill, so the question is whether there are enough concerned citizens in the Congress to pass it anyway. Posted by: Bea | Nov 17 2006 5:21 utc | 75 bea #68, you ask how we can know who is responsible? have you read billmon’s salvadoran option? Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 17 2006 6:32 utc | 76 |
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