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November 6, 2006
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Ledeen rats out Lieberman? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 6 2006 7:58 utc | 1 I’m a bit divided on the whole “Israel led us into war” (or, for that matter, “Israel led us into [fill-in-the-blank]”) thing. On the one hand, it’s clear that Israel exerted all the pressure it could muster on every issue (e.g. war with Iraq) it could. On the other, though, it definitely was not a case of poor, innocent politicians being led into perdition by a nasty lobby. It isn’t even a case of amoral but greedy politicians being led into perdition by a nasty lobby. If there had not been a strong preëxisting desire to do the things which AIPAC wanted, they would not have been successful. Many, possibly most, of the figures who accepted AIPAC money would have made those same decisions without it. The backlash against Israel is beginning, as many of us foresaw. Some of it is justified. But let’s not make the mistake which the cartoonist from that full-page ad does and put all the blame on Israel for something the U.S. readily agreed to. Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Nov 6 2006 8:24 utc | 2 Showing us how… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 6 2006 8:24 utc | 3 Uncle, what makes you think that site is reliable? Posted by: jj | Nov 6 2006 9:03 utc | 4 Ahh, busted jj, rarely, if ever, do I post from something I haven’t read yet.(I think this is only the second time I have ever done that)had I looked, paid more attention, to see it was hosted by ‘cloak and dagger’ I prolly would not have posted it. However, I do trust where it came from, or to be more precise where I got it. Who knows these days, as reality and truth has been so subverted by this gang, there is no way to know anything for sure. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 6 2006 14:45 utc | 6 Uncle, I owe you a pint for turning me on to Lenin’s Tomb. Cheers! Posted by: Tantalus | Nov 6 2006 15:20 utc | 7
haha Posted by: b real | Nov 6 2006 15:35 utc | 8 interesting to note that here there is acceptance of the victory of ortega in the nicaraguan elections based on using the observors independent yet if i read anything in english – they are either not reporting it or giving an appossite perspective – still saying the ultraliberal has a chance Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 6 2006 16:40 utc | 9 uncle –
it sounds like nearly the entire city is uniting against the federales. i heard from the people who run the b&b i have stayed at for years and they were at first renouncing the protesters and just wanting to get on with business, but now i wonder if they may have joined the crowd. from narconews.com:
was also just speaking with a friend who just returned from barcelona and said there wer 3-4,000 in the streets protesting in solidarity last week. there have been events here in new york, mostly protests at the mexican consulate, and there is a brad will memoriam on the 12th. if only americans would stand up en masse for themselves! Posted by: conchita | Nov 6 2006 16:45 utc | 10 Borat: The Movie Posted by: Cloned Poster | Nov 6 2006 17:26 utc | 11 A short time ago, I cited a projection of US$2Trillion as the final cost of the Bush administration’s little exercise in Iraq. I was relying on data provided by Linda Bilmes and Nobel Prize in Economics recipient Joseph Stiglitz. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 6 2006 17:44 utc | 12 CP, Posted by: ralphieboy | Nov 6 2006 17:56 utc | 14 ralphieboy Posted by: Cloned Poster | Nov 6 2006 18:07 utc | 15 Interesting post over at Lew Rockwell’s blog about Diebold: Posted by: Ensley | Nov 6 2006 18:11 utc | 16 thanks, r’giap. i’m still trying to get caught up on everything i missed last week. did catch this piece over at COHA from before the election,
your link shows the FSLN @ 40.04. Posted by: b real | Nov 6 2006 18:41 utc | 17 i know that ortega has been having difficulties with the other sandanistas but on principal whatever i read in the rich man’s medai & through the conspirators claws i take with a dose of salt Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 6 2006 18:57 utc | 18 I wasn’t looking forward to it, but I saw Borat with my kids this weekend because they wanted me to go with them. Posted by: fauxreal | Nov 6 2006 19:17 utc | 19 just dancing across english language news on the ‘internets’ & it is almost comic the way they are treating this sandanista victory Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 6 2006 19:30 utc | 20 yea, r’giap, let’s hope so. how strange all this, including carter being there to monitor the elections that hands the FSLN the presidency. expecting to hear jeane kirkpatrick lay all blame on him again any moment now. Posted by: b real | Nov 6 2006 19:43 utc | 21 Anyone remember the US government expressing “concern” over Israel carpeting southern Lebanon with US-made cluster bombs and promising to “look into it”? Posted by: ran | Nov 6 2006 19:59 utc | 22 Présidentielle au Nicaragua: Ortega se rapproche de la victoire Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 6 2006 20:11 utc | 23 Conchita recently posted from unfamiliar site stating that Am. citizens will require approval from Dept. of Making Am. a Police State to lv. the country. Thom Hartmann said that is a Regulation that was published in the Federal Registry. Here’s a post w/link to Federal Document: link Posted by: jj | Nov 6 2006 20:30 utc | 24 Fox News reporter says after self-experience water boarding is “efficient”. i’m feeling feverish but so evidently is gore vidal Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 6 2006 20:51 utc | 26 As far as the ‘Borat’ movie goes, whether his motive is trying to show up amerikan elites’ ingrained racism or trying to smear an Islamic people with false tales of rabid anti jewishness is irrelevant. Posted by: Debs is dead | Nov 6 2006 21:26 utc | 28 I wonder if many are paying attention to anything bar the amerikan poll today.
I doubt the poor are going to eat better as a result of this appointment. Doesn’t old Moon spout a “Blame the poor for their poverty” sort of an ethos? Posted by: Debs is dead | Nov 6 2006 21:36 utc | 29 jj- Posted by: b real | Nov 6 2006 22:05 utc | 31
Read the whole article, it’s quite fascinating. I wonder what the background of this German Foreign Policy magazine is. Posted by: Alamet | Nov 6 2006 22:36 utc | 32 Billmon, Posted by: jg | Nov 7 2006 0:01 utc | 33 nicaragua – memories that will come back to haunt you Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 7 2006 0:55 utc | 35 whatever, debs. yes, someone could do the same with a zionist settler and it would also be transgressive and would upset people and they would also call for it to stop, just as with what has happened now. Posted by: fauxreal | Nov 7 2006 0:57 utc | 36 I gotta say, I thought the funniest scene in Borat was the nude fight scene that made all of the men in the audience groan and squirm (and caused a few of them to leave the auditorium). Imagine: turning the tables to show the same scene with women would be just one more–yawn–stupid porn flick. Posted by: catlady | Nov 7 2006 1:15 utc | 37 I have not seen Borat. But I probably will see it in a few years time when it is aired on television, my computer is broke and I am bored and trying to shut out more important things I know I should do. Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Nov 7 2006 1:44 utc | 38 Trust Debs to unmask the Zionist conspiracy behind Borat. Once the Zionists have made hapless America hate its natural ally, Kazakstan, they will move on to mock the true enemy, the homeland of Freedom, Kiwistan. There is no end to this depravity. Posted by: citizen k | Nov 7 2006 2:07 utc | 39 Oh, and I missed the revelation that Ali. G is an “english youth of asian descent”, yeah, from da ghetto of Staines! Debs, I can’t wait for your analysis of Cohen’s other characters, especially “Bruno”. Posted by: citizen k | Nov 7 2006 2:18 utc | 40 beq- ah yes, the ole’ “figure w/ an iguana growing out of their forehead” archetype… damn, did billmon leave some of his ‘shrooms in the snack bowl again? cause i’m seeing all kinds of things now. Posted by: b real | Nov 7 2006 2:19 utc | 41 ia am really tripping on these things, been absorbed for an hr. i keep looking at then Posted by: annie | Nov 7 2006 3:04 utc | 42 Those who choose to have read my interpetation of Baron Sacha Cohen’s tedious and repetitive anti-islamic prejudices, which along with his homophobic (Bruno the Austrian fashion reporter) tirades appear in virtually every piece of ‘comedy’ he peforms as an attack by me on some grand zionist conspiracy can’t get past their own prejudices. Posted by: Debs is dead | Nov 7 2006 3:13 utc | 43 what’s the FSLN position on the renewed plans to push the nicaraguan canal through, as an alternative to the one in panama? even though ortega has talked earlier of keeping relations w/ the IMF, i can’t imagine, given the history of the imperialist’s interests in nicaragua & all the death & destruction they’ve left throughout the hemisphere for the last couple centuries, that he would want to have anything to do w/ furthering bolanos’ plans and turning that country into another panama. and i don’t think the ticas & ticos in costa rica are any more ready to give up part of their territory to do it now than they’ve ever been.
don’t forget to vote! Posted by: b real | Nov 7 2006 3:19 utc | 44 That’s great Debs. I’m sorry I thought you were attacking Cohen’s motivations on the grounds of his possible Zionism, when you were really attacking his motivations on the much more reasonable grounds that he is a yid. Posted by: citizen k | Nov 7 2006 3:44 utc | 45 Debs- Posted by: fauxreal | Nov 7 2006 4:03 utc | 46 So Ali G. is a stupid white kid pretending to be hip-hop cool according to most people, only a discerning anti-zionist intellectual like Debs could see that really, he is a nasty Jewish/White-supremacist assault on Asian strivers. The very name “Alistair Leslie Graham” evokes anti-asian stereotypes, no? Posted by: Austin Cooper | Nov 7 2006 4:59 utc | 47 Newsdump. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 7 2006 5:55 utc | 48 @alamet –
very right wing idiot … Monbiot on clusertbombs: Britain is determined to protect its right to kill civilians at random b real @44 Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 7 2006 6:47 utc | 51 Khalilzad to go. Posted by: anna missed | Nov 7 2006 8:05 utc | 52 I like this one: Posted by: Dismal Science | Nov 7 2006 12:11 utc | 53 anna #52, missing links comments on the implications
Posted by: annie | Nov 7 2006 17:18 utc | 56 Report from Beit Hanoun, Gaza: Incursion ‘Like an Earthquake’
Posted by: Bea | Nov 7 2006 17:51 utc | 57 bea, i continually test myself not to have hate in my heart for these terroists Posted by: annie | Nov 7 2006 18:30 utc | 58 mac users Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 7 2006 18:36 utc | 59 Well some commentator in Ha’aretz a few days ago said that one reason for the Gaza operation was to enable the army to restore its lost honor from the humiliation it received from Hizbullah in Lebanon this summer and yeah, sure looks like they were able to “win” this one all right… but in the long term, that is surely a Pyrrhic victory… Posted by: Bea | Nov 7 2006 18:38 utc | 60 r’giap Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Nov 7 2006 19:21 utc | 61 @r’giap: The Macbook, like most other newer Macs, uses an Intel processor instead of a PowerPC. Although there is emulation which allows the Macbook to run PowerPC software, there is no way to mix a PowerPC plugin with an Intel program. (Or vice versa.) All the recent versions of web browsers are Intel-native. Microsoft has long since ceased to update Windows Media Player for Mac, so it’s still PowerPC, and the plugin does not work with any current web browser. Flash, on the other hand, works, but for some reason or another, some of the file types just aren’t supported. (I suspect they use stuff that’s proprietary to Microsoft, and thus can’t be played on other platforms.) Possible solutions (ignoring “do without”): 1. Use the Windows Media Player program by itself. (This may be a bit difficult, but should be possible.) 2. Go to Microsoft’s page and download flip4mac, which apparently works the same way, but integrates in QuickTime instead. 3. Buy a copy of VirtualPC from Microsoft. This will allow you to run Windows as a program on top of the Mac, and switch back and forth as you like. (I don’t recommend this. VirtualPC has always needed an update any time an engineer sneezes, and since Microsoft bought out Connectix, I haven’t heard good things about it.) 4. Download and/or buy (they have a free demo; the full product costs $80 U.S.) a copy of Parallels Desktop for Mac and install a copy of Windows on it, then run Windows Media Player in Windows. This is similar to VirtualPC, but instead of emulating the PC side, it runs a chip-level virtualization, which is faster. (Except for the price, Parallels is pretty nice. The interface is slightly less elegant than VirtualPC, and it doesn’t come with Windows, but the performance is good and they seem to really want to support the Mac.) 5. Install Apple’s Boot Camp and then install Windows on the Mac. You won’t be able to switch back and forth without a reboot. (I don’t recommend this, honestly. It’s great if you’re Mac-savvy and know how to deal with backups and so on. But it’s still beta software and you haven’t been using a Mac that long.) (And, of course, it doesn’t come with Windows.) Someday, maybe VMWare will be available for Mac — it’s the same principle as Parallels, but free. (Or maybe the Darwine project will eventually bear some fruit. Stranger things have happened.) Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Nov 7 2006 20:15 utc | 63 r’giap Posted by: dan of steele | Nov 7 2006 20:27 utc | 64 truth gets vicious Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 7 2006 20:28 utc | 65 b Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 7 2006 20:39 utc | 67 @b: Safari IS Intel-native. In fact, it’s a Universal Binary, meaning it contains code for both PowerPC and Intel chips. (It was from the day they shipped the first Intel Mac, as was all, or nearly all, of the built-in Mac software.) It’s the Windows Media Player plugin that isn’t. Actually, that gives me an idea, so: @r’giap: Give this a shot: Quit Safari. Find the Safari program icon (if you click-and-hold on the icon on the dock, you’ll get a submenu that includes “Show in Finder”, which will do it; otherwise, go into the Applications folder). Click once on the icon, then choose “Get Info” from the File menu. In the Info window, check the “Open using Rosetta” box. Then close the Info window and re-launch Safari. In theory, the system should now run it using PowerPC emulation, which ought to pick up the PowerPC plugins. I’ve never tried that, but it might possibly work. (To undo the voodoo, which you should if this doesn’t work or if you no longer need the extra plugin, just follow the instructions again and uncheck the box. If you don’t undo it, it won’t be the end of the world, but Safari will run slower than usual.) Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Nov 7 2006 21:12 utc | 68 Quite interesting and develish: Senior U.S. official: Israel will not attack Iran’s nuclear program
On the first story – “Israel will not attack” could well mean that someone else, who has the capacity, does … truth gets vicious Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 7 2006 21:47 utc | 70 FOX News Correspondent Gets Waterboarded Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 7 2006 23:11 utc | 71 “Simultaneous Explosions in Mexico City” Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 7 2006 23:18 utc | 72 Clashes in Gaza leave dozens dead
That’s what the Israelis are trying so deperately to achieve… some kind of reaction to their unspeakable war crimes from the Palestinians that will “justify”, in their own minds, the utter and complete destruction of the Palestinian nation. Posted by: John Francis Lee | Nov 7 2006 23:23 utc | 73 No Taran sanctions?!At the U.N., Discord Over Confronting Iran’s Nuclear Ambitions
Thanks to RGiap at 13 for the link to the Sandinista Web Site: take Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Nov 8 2006 8:29 utc | 75 shout-outs to rememberinggiap and your tech saviors, Truth Gets Vicious, skod and dan of steele. Community in action. Posted by: jonku | Nov 8 2006 9:40 utc | 76 HKO’L, that is a good cartoon at Hannah’s link — it shows how to mess up someone’s house in mostly pictures and some Spanish too. Posted by: jonku | Nov 8 2006 9:52 utc | 77 jonku, thanks for your inspiration. Posted by: annie | Nov 8 2006 16:58 utc | 78 jonku- debs was a resident of Indiana who helped found the IWW (international labor union) and also ran as a socialist prez. candidate. During his time, the midwest leaned radical, not conservative. (things can and do change…for better or worse.) Posted by: fauxreal | Nov 8 2006 17:26 utc | 80 fauxreal, thanks for the Debs update. Vonnegut quotes Deb in the linked essay, Posted by: jonku | Nov 8 2006 17:48 utc | 81 Kofi Annan has an OpEd (quite good) in the Washington Post today (unfortunaly nobody will read such today – except maybe you):
From an article in Le Temps, 8.11.06 freely blurbed .. Posted by: Noirette | Nov 8 2006 19:50 utc | 83 secrecynews: A Glimpse of Army Special Operations Forces
Posted by: b real | Nov 8 2006 20:11 utc | 84 My position is that I only get one death, I want it to be a good one. Wouldn’t it be better to stand for something or make a statement, rather than a fiery collision with some drunk driver? Are not smokers choosing death by lung cancer? Where is the dignity there? Are not the people the people who disregard the environment killing themselves and future generations? Here is the statement I want to make: if I am required to pay for your barbaric war, I choose not to live in your world. I refuse to finance the mass murder of innocent civilians, who did nothing to threaten our country. I will not participate in your charade – my conscience will not allow me to be a part of your crusade. There might be some who say “it’s a coward’s way out” – that opinion is so idiotic that it requires no response. From my point of view, I am opening a new door. Posted by: dk | Nov 9 2006 1:00 utc | 85 |
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