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October 3, 2006
WB: Unnatural High
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I wonder what the coincidence of hallucinogenic use is with socialistic tendencies, or at least hyper-attentiveness to corruption and anti-social government processes. Id like to see the results of that study.
Posted by: MitGradStudent | Oct 3 2006 19:28 utc | 1
Look at the associations we have had so far:
“elections”, “pedophelia”, “child-killer”, “paradise” (pennsylvania), “anti-social government processes”, “study” and (last but surely not least) “urge to participate”.
MK-ULTRA anyone?
… and then Chucky’s Bride exclaimed: “Kool Aid… good…”
Posted by: Guthman Bey | Oct 3 2006 19:56 utc | 4
Well fuck me purple:
Foley, “If I were one of these sickos…….”
Posted by: Cloned Poster | Oct 3 2006 20:02 utc | 5
I remember Dick Cheney’s smug boast about how WWe don’t have interns with stained lapels here at our WHite House”.
They have other sorts of stains on them, one that don’t wash out or even dry-clean…
Posted by: ralphieboy | Oct 3 2006 20:06 utc | 6
I’m afraid Billmon has been snacking on the mushrooms again. Otherwise, he would never, ever believe that being caught with their hands (or whatever) in the page dorm would reduce the tendency of far-right hypocrites to point fingers.
On the contrary, we can expect them to wax ever more self-righteous. And the David Broders of the world will solemnly nod along.
Posted by: ammonite | Oct 3 2006 20:33 utc | 7
sex, drugs, all we need is the sound track and we have all the makings of a party thread.
i’m game
Posted by: annie | Oct 3 2006 20:35 utc | 8
You know, that IM chat doesn’t scream “orgasms” to me. Just flirting. Maybe I’m missing something. Maybe I expect more from my sex chat.
Annie – in honor of Foley’s excuse and current place of residence: The Slow Descent Into Alcoholism
Posted by: Rowan | Oct 3 2006 21:06 utc | 9
[State Police Commissioner] Miller said Roberts told his wife that “he was acting out to achieve revenge for something that happened 20 years ago.”
Roberts would have been 11 or 12 at the time such an impressional age…no?
Abuse among the Amish has inspired an entire literary subgenre.Sex Abuse in Amish Country
Amish Abuse is in desperate need for massive coverage.
On a wilder note, Guthman Bey may have been joking but, Project MKULTRA was and is real. Mosey on down to your universities gov docs library and check it out.
Take a wild guess as to who had control of these operations during this time….
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 3 2006 21:08 utc | 10
I shalt give it away, but here’s a little clue:
“There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.” — Senator Daniel K. Inouye, during the Iran Contra Hearings and former chair, U.S. Senate MKULTRA-era hearings in 1977
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 3 2006 21:22 utc | 11
GHWB eh…
No I am not joking at all. Though the subject matter lends itself to that admittedly.
Posted by: Guthman Bey | Oct 3 2006 21:25 utc | 12
You know, that IM chat doesn’t scream “orgasms” to me
I think ABC left that part out — you know, for the children’s sake.
Posted by: billmon | Oct 3 2006 21:38 utc | 13
I’m quite sure the 1977 Senate Hearing on MKULTRA: opening remarks were not
‘Like A Duck In A Noose’; this is also not a joke.
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 3 2006 21:48 utc | 14
Well, Billmon, I’m happy to see that you stopped blogging, and your’re back to doing your job that pays you and getting your rest.
Seriously, it’s good to have your take on this. In fact, what would we do without you?
Posted by: Grandmère Mimi | Oct 3 2006 23:12 utc | 15
@Uncle$
The problem with “massive coverage” of abuse is that usually it is in itself quite mad and abusive. Such is the emotional heat of these issues that most people exposed to them get quite mad, be they “doctors,” “neighbors,” “survivors,” “investigators” or what have you. The documentary Capturing the Friedmans brings that out very well, in all its disconcerting ambiguity. That is another reason why manipulation a la MK-ULTRA is particularly at home in this quadrant.
Posted by: Guthman Bey | Oct 4 2006 0:35 utc | 17
whatever left the form of the good doctor hunter s thompson when he died – it has come back to haunt the the bush cheney junta & all the jackals they party with
yes the days are dark for us
but they are getting very dark indeed for the tyrants
Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 4 2006 0:52 utc | 18
Hunter checked out too soon. He threw away his chance to cover Armageddon.
Posted by: billmon | Oct 4 2006 1:01 utc | 19
a lot of serendipity and mass dejavu a brand new news-cycle can probably fix.
it’s an eternity of political time until the general elections. and bush-machine will be loaded w/ binary good/bad animadversion and reality readjustment.
i think some diplomatic coup w/ iran sold to rightwing hotheads as something just less than appeasement. and condi’s star rockets.
it’s as probable as anything else.
Posted by: slothrop | Oct 4 2006 1:13 utc | 21
but they are getting very dark indeed for the tyrants
A single tear rolls down my cheek.
I was channeling Hunter earlier, thinking of his “chickens come home to roost”, but imagining a Steadman chicken, complete with fangs, claws, and oozing sores. I miss the Doc, but I completely undertand…
not to say i’m out of the bomb iran camp, but the backdoor contact between u.s. and iran and baker’s trip is interesting.
if some agreement is reached, there are two people to thank: taliban & iraqi insurgents. what a drag.
Posted by: slothrop | Oct 4 2006 1:23 utc | 26
I’m talking about baker.
if somebody catches more about this situation, please post.
Posted by: slothrop | Oct 4 2006 1:35 utc | 28
but, you know,. a substantive diplomatic breakthrtough would benefit rice as well as reconnect in many peoples’ minds the value of negotiation from a perceived position of strength. all that muscle is shown in a belivable illusionv to have a brain after all.
Posted by: slothrop | Oct 4 2006 1:40 utc | 29
I was quite a fan of hallucinogens — magic mushrooms in particular — when I was in college
As was I. Lately I’ve wondered if, in Hunter’s words, it’s time for another “run up the mountain.”
@ slothrop #29: but, you know,. a substantive diplomatic breakthrtough would benefit rice as well as reconnect in many peoples’ minds the value of negotiation from a perceived position of strength
Well, I can’t think of a single thing in the last 5 years that would point to such a thing, but who knows what one might do when you see It All Beginning To Slip Away.
We’re in for quite a month….
MK-ULTRA anyone?
i’ve been dumpster diving. should have just eaten shrooms, it would have been a better trip
court transcripts, Noreen Gosch mother of John Gosch
“involves is an elaborate function, I will say, that was an offshoot of a government program. The MK Ultra program was developed in the 1950s by the CIA. It was used to help spy on other countries during the cold War because they felt that the other countries were spying on us. It was very successful. They could do it very well. Well, then there was a man by the name of Michael Aquino. He was in the military. He had top Pentagon clearance. He was a pedophile. He was a Satanist. He’s founded the Temple of Set. And he was also a very close friend of Anton LaVey. The two of them were very active in ritualistic sexual abuse. And they deferred funding from this government program to use this experimentation upon children. Where they deliberately split off the personalities of these children into multiples so that when they’re questioned or put under oath or questioned under lie detector, that unless the operator knows how to question a multiple personality disorder they turn up with no evidence. They use these kids to sexually compromise politicians or anyone else they wish to have control of. This sounds so far out and so bizarre I had trouble accepting it in the beginning myself until I was presented with the data. We have the proof. In black and white. And ABC has been working on this story for over a year. They do not pour hundreds of thousands of dollars into a story that is fake. They have a reputation at stake. When I came to them with my story and told them Johnny was alive and they began investigating they had no idea that they were going to step into this whole other realm of why these kids were taken. They were not just taken to be used by some pedophile, they were taken to be used by professional pedophiles. People that have the money to buy what they want, take the kids wherever they want. And by splitting the children’s personalities they could then train each one of the personalities to do a different function. And the rest of the personalities within that host personality would not be aware of it or remember it.”
June 13th of 1984 1 was contacted by a man in Des Moines, Iowa by the name of Sam Soda. He was a private investigator. He told me, and I taped the conversation, he told me that there was going to be a second kidnapping in Des Moines. That it would be the second weekend of August, it would be another paperboy, and that it was already in the works. And I asked him why he was telling me and he said, well, you seem like the type that would do something about it. So I took my tape recording and I went to the Des Moines Police Department. They laughed at me. They wouldn’t even listen to my tape. So then I went to the TV stations and I played it for them. As a matter of record. So it was on record. The other person I told was Karen Bums with ABC 20-20, because 20-20 came to Des Moines to do our story. The second weekend in August came and, sure enough, Eugene Martin was kidnapped. From the south side of Des Moines just as the informant had said. That man still walks the streets. The Des Moines police were not all that interested in why he was giving me the information. What they did to me instead was put a gag order on me so I couldn’t talk about it at that time. They had forewarning that Eugene Martin was going to be taken and they did nothing. It was a planned kidnapping just as my own son’s was.
She also saw Vice President George Bush , Sr., at a party in Chicago in September or October of 1984, accompanied by two large white males. Walters’ report states; “She [Lisa] indicates that she set [sic] on a table at the party while wearing nothing but a negligee. She stated that George Bush saw her on the table. She stated she saw Vice President George Bush pay King money, and that Bush left the party with a nineteen year old black boy named Brent.” According to the Chicago Tribune of October 31, 1984, George Bush, Sr., was in Illinois campaigning for congressional candidates at the end of October, 1984.
is alisa still in jail?
Posted by: annie | Oct 4 2006 3:44 utc | 32
O’Reilly is calling Foley a dem; Hannity says Monica was a teenager (19 yo!); but the dow hit a new high today, about 1/2 a point a day since the 2001 inauguaration so all is AOK in bushworld — whoo! hoo!.
Posted by: Brian Boru | Oct 4 2006 4:44 utc | 33
Once you admit mind control to your ambit of the real world, it’s a different world. The worms won’t go back in the can. No wonder the subject is usually given wide berth by critics of government and even many students of deep politics, notwithstanding documentation of government ambition, survivor testimony and dark history.
Jeff Wells is an interesting guy. I read his blog regularly, not that I really know what to do with the subject matter he tends to deal with. It really is very much like observing scores of rats from a subway platform. Just as the horror begins to mount, the train arrives, you get on and until next time all is forgotten.
Posted by: Guthman Bey | Oct 4 2006 13:41 utc | 34
@annie, et al..
Guthman Bey beat me to it… (see his #34)
annie dear leave the ct, crazy stuff for me to post, as MOA’s know I’m the wild card here. I smoke my government prozac on the nightly ot.. In other words, the patrons expect left field posts from moi, however their failure to be informed does not make me a whacko…lol
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 4 2006 20:45 utc | 35
Addendum:
A word on fools, it was ‘the fool’, in King Lears court whom had the power to tell his Majesty to go “fuck himself” without fear of losing his head.
Is my God complex showing?
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 4 2006 20:51 utc | 36
Uncle $:
fool or trickster?
some kind of holy man, I’d guess. ;-p
Posted by: catlady | Oct 4 2006 22:16 utc | 37
both-and, forever and ever, amen.
I’m a good little RAW student. I believe in the multiple model approach to universe.
Posted by: catlady | Oct 4 2006 23:48 utc | 39
uncle #35
NOW YOU TELL ME!!!!!
who got me into this mess? first GB and then you. i have thrown away, THROWN AWAY, more than a day reading about owls and football season and photographers and webb and goeshgannonfranksairplanesfetishes and the friggin bohemian grove. i am going to drag myself away from the computer and try to NOT spread the wealth of my new knowledge to my otherwise normal friends tonight lest they think i have traveled into the netherlands of conspiracy never to return.
i would have been better off eating mushrooms.
take that
Posted by: annie | Oct 4 2006 23:48 utc | 40
annie:
You’re not alone. I followed your link and spent way longer than I shoulda reading Noreen’s testimony. In Nebraska?!? Nebraska, the boring place I grew up? Same place that “Boys Don’t Cry?” Geez, I missed all the action somehow. We drove around and drank beer. Even the sex was boring. Nothing like getting the car stuck in a corn field while you’re doing it in the back seat, and having to knock on the farmhouse door, dogs growling, to ask for a tow out of the mud.
Posted by: catlady | Oct 5 2006 0:00 utc | 41
Nothing like getting the car stuck in a corn field while you’re doing it in the back seat
hm, fun. i love those older american cars
no regrets
out the door ‘)
Posted by: annie | Oct 5 2006 0:50 utc | 42