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October 4, 2006
WB: The Way of the Whigs

Billmon:

The Republicans may lose this election. They’re certainly trying hard. They may even lose the next one. But it’s going to take more than one or two scandal-boosted victories to persuade me the Dems have a future that doesn’t involve being the ornamental decoration on a functionally one-party state.

But of course, if the Dems lose next month, despite the GOP’s best efforts to hand them the House and quite possibly the Senate, then I guess we’ll know that’s where they’re heading. And unlike the Whigs, I don’t think they’ll be coming back.

The Way of the Whigs

Comments

This is one of Billmon’s more important posts. A centennial conversation, actually. A conversation that transcends this or that election.
A conversation about why — here on the eve of an election some are openly calling a referendum on our nation’s future — we find ourselves gathered at the bedside of an ailing, perhaps dying Democratic Party.
His remarks about the ‘built-in’ advantages of the capitalist party within a capitalist system ring true, yes. But consider: if the GOP thoroughly self-destructs in this season or the next, and all that capital defaults to the Democratic Party, will they be people to make use of it — or be made use of by it?
I think the latter will be the case, and not only because that is the way of the world, but because these Dems have shown no priority for principles over price advantage.
On my left hand I can count up the Democratic Senators and Congressmen who stand up for the Constitution the way their oath of office describes.
I want other options, now and going forward. I want some kind of Bull Moose Party. I want Team Dem and Team GOP of our single political War Party in Washington down for the count and out.
Well, just like the proverbial people in Hell who want ice water, I’m not likely to get what I want, either.
What is increasingly obvious is that neither of these parties will do, and for the same reason. The influence of money — Big, Big Money, endless oceans and cesspools of private, donated money — so thoroughly overwhelms the political system at this point that everything and everyone is not only for sale, but long since sold.
There’s a legitimate role for large industries to have a voice in the affairs of the nation. They get a input. They get a voice. But not the only voice. Not to the utter exclusion of the voice of we, the people.
There’s point three billion Americans now, and yet as a people we are spectators and consumers and cats to be herded. We have to shout, stomp and scream in the streets to be noticed, either in the press or in the political process in Washington.
Shit, we cannot even be sure our vote means a damn thing. Even that’s just for show now.
Short version of our future as a nation — either we get the corporate and investor class money out of our political process, or we study up on Argentina’s ‘Dirty War.’
That little bit of nasty business was fueled by the same fascist economic impulses loose in our land today.

Posted by: Antifa | Oct 4 2006 6:19 utc | 1

Right spot on, Antifa!
This whole wank fest of, “wait till the dems get back in power” in the blogsphere is sickening. It’s like the old saying, ‘blind in one eye or a sharp stick in the other’. This whole pendulum theory is a hoax, people so desperately want to believe in the three hundred sixty degree myth.
Savior/Messiah/scapegoat theory:
1)the archetype of a Savior/Messiah/scapegoat, (read republican/democrat) who will make all things better and 2) in the so called “political pendulum” paradigm, where bad swings back to good and balances out unjust law in a market place of ideals -even if it were true, and it’s not that simple- are nothing more than mere puerile fantasies. Until we A)deal with the problem of who controls the pendulum process tools of the elite, (e.g. Diebold) we will be led like lambs to market and B)note of appreciation from the rich, we will forever be like Sisyphus from one gereration to the next. Wage slaves for the New American elite.
The system as it stands now, has us from cradle-to-grave and leaves us an empty indeterminacy. In my more lucid and hopeful moments I want to think humanity is pending resolution or in flux to a better understanding; however certain ptb (powers that be) would wish that we would rather not understand. The elite would keep it’s controlled bifurcation of good cop bad cop or ‘the haves’, and ‘haves more’.
Even as the elite left almost get it, as Walter Benn Michaels writes, “…the left has elevated diversity as a focal point of politics at the expense of its fight for equality”.
And while having not read his work, this excerpt (see below), rings, if not true then close to it;

Giving priority to issues like affirmative action and committing itself to the celebration of difference, the intellectual left has responded to the increase in economic inequality by insisting on the importance of cultural identity. So for 30 years, while the gap between the rich and the poor has grown larger, we’ve been urged to respect people’s identities — as if the problem of poverty would be solved if we just appreciated the poor. From the economic standpoint, however, what poor people want is not to contribute to diversity but to minimize their contribution to it — they want to stop being poor. Celebrating the diversity of American life has become the American left’s way of accepting their poverty, of accepting inequality.

Of course, WBM’s analysis is from the white male covert position, which is the reason for my caveat.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 4 2006 7:15 utc | 2

The Trouble With Diversity By Walter Benn Michaels
Seems half right for the wrong reasons…
In fact, it reminds me much of Samual P. Huntington of ‘clash of civs’ fame…

Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 4 2006 7:36 utc | 3

T’was, moi above…
Excellent but longish essay here:
Public Pedagogy and the Challenge of Neoliberalism

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 4 2006 7:42 utc | 4

Well, he’s basically stating what every left-leaning people with a functioning brain can see.
The Lest is losing because it’s stopped class warfare. Probably because it stopped believing in class warfare. The right, the ruling wealthy elite, never stopped believing in it, and they wage it even more fiercely now that there’s no opposition.
Antifa: There’s always be one sure way for the people to be heard, and so far barely any other ever produced results that resisted the test of time. The method is simple: you behead or shoot the ruling wealthy elite to the last one and confiscate their fortune. The only trouble is that sooner or later a new ruling wealthy elite will rise, but you at least have a more or less short time with more equality.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Oct 4 2006 9:15 utc | 5

I think you guys are wrong. To me the formula for political power is like this.
Political Power = Popular idea(s) + Economic Power
To be successful politically you gotta have an economic base. Some sort of economic power base that supports your ideas because it brings them economic strength. Democrats were successful until the 90’s because they had economic power in the form of unions. It gave them money and resources, and unions got union friendly legislation and the government off their back. Republicans couldn’t get a look in because their ideas were incompatible with labour. Globalisation destroyed unionism, so Democrats lost their economic power base. That’s all there is to it in my opinion.
Today Republicans have found voters dumb enough to support low taxes and small government. That’s an easy sell to the economic power base of the wealthy and big business. That’s where there success comes from.
Every successful political movement is a marriage of economic power and ideology, with the two re-inforcing each other. Without that you just got ideas that no-one is going to fund no matter how many people actually agree with you.
So Democrat’s, lefties, whatever need a new economic power base. I know what its going to be. Green companies. Companies that make money from environmentally friendly industry, or pretending to be environmentally friendly.
I got a feeling that Global Warming is about 5 years away from being accepted as real by most Americans. When that happens forget terrorism. That’ll be so yesterday. Terrorism is a guy in a cave, and sand and people on the other side of the world. Global Warming wipes American cities off the map. That gets attention. Democrats can use it as a scare issue the same way Republicans use terrorism today.
And here’s the economic marriage. Democrats pass legislation to make green friendly industry work and give it subsidies and whatever the hell else it needs from government. Subsidies to grow corn for ethanol, a $1000 cash back for solar panels etc Those green friendly indurstries will give money, resources etc etc to the Democrats, (or maybe the Greens by then) to keep getting that legislation passed. They’ll create the public relations needed to keep the public scared of Global Warming so they keep voting for Democrats.
I know what your thinking. Americans will never believe in global warming. Well do you belive that you can convince enough Americans of just about anything if you got enough money and marketing? Like the way poor church goers today believe that tax cuts are god’s will? In my opinion, and i’m sure alot of people on this site will agree, they can be convinced of anything if someones’ spending the money. And that’s the point. There’s money in environmentalism. Lots of it. Just watch. The era of the corporate greenie is coming and he’ll do whatever he needs to convince the “low information voter” to vote for whoever is going to get his business the funds it needs. The church sells salvation to the sinful and they do mighty well out of it. The Greens are coming, one way or another, and they’ll be selling salvation to the SUV driver. It won’t be pretty. There’ll be cynicism and broken promises and endless (true) accusations of selling out. But it means Democrats will have an economic power base again. Hell, its probably why Al Gore is working on Global Warming. He’s not concerned about climate change, he’s fundraising for his 2012 presidential run.
Its already starting to happen in Germany.

Posted by: still working it out | Oct 4 2006 10:23 utc | 6

From my #4
excerpt:
Neoliberal economics has dominated American society since the 1970s and has been embraced by both New Democrats and conservatives. Both political parties in the U.S. embrace the defining principles of neoliberalism, especially the notions that the market is self-regulating and should be free of interference by the government, that choice is defined as an economic prerogative, and that “economic transactions can subordinate and [in] many cases replace political democracy”(Newfield 2002:314). While there is some political opposition among the established parties to the brutalizing policies of neoliberalism, both political parties generally buy into a corporate driven legislative agenda, which includes:

deregulation of business at all levels of enterprises and trade; tax reduction for wealthy individuals and corporations; the revival of the near-dormant nuclear energy industry; limitations and abrogation of labor’s right to organize and bargain collectively; a land policy favoring commercial and industrial development at the expense of conservation and other pro-environment policies; elimination of income support to chronically unemployed; reduced federal aid to education and health; privatization of the main federal pension program, social security; limitations on the right of aggrieved individuals to sue employees and corporations who provide services (Aronowitz 2003:102).

Under neoliberalism everything either is for sale or is plundered for profit. One might also add to Aronowitz’s list the attack on institutions dedicated to critically informing the public; the handing over by politicians of the public’s airwaves over to a handful of powerful broadcasters and large corporate interests without a dime going into the public trust; the attitude toward entire populations, especially those of color who are poor are now considered disposable; the increasing resemblance of schools to either jails or high-end shopping malls, depending on their clientele; the pressure on teachers to get revenue for their school by hawking everything from hamburgers to pizza parties. Additionally, university enrollment and attendance in an era of drastic cutbacks and spiraling tuition becomes once again the near exclusive preserve of the upper middle classes (Giroux and Giroux 2004).
Corporations more and more not only design the economic sphere but also shape legislation and policy affecting all levels of government, and with limited opposition. As corporate power lays siege to the political process, the benefits flow upward to the rich and the powerful. In Bush’s ownership society, government policy now works to benefit the biggest corporations. For example, Bush’s 2006 budget contains drastic cuts for many of the major regulatory agencies not only compromising everything from emission standards to drug safety programs, but also presenting the “possibilities—indeed, probability—that these public agencies will become captives of private corporations they are supposed to regulate” (Drutman and Cray 2005:17). It gets worse. Included in such benefits are reform policies that shift the burden of taxes from the rich to the middle class, the working poor, and state governments as can be seen in the shift from taxes on wealth (capital gains, dividends, and estate taxes) to a tax on work, principally in the form of a regressive payroll tax (Collins, Hartman, Kraut, and Mota 2004). During the 2002-2004 fiscal years, tax cuts delivered $197.3 billion in tax breaks to the wealthiest 1% of Americans (i.e., households making more than $337,000 a year) while state governments increased taxes to fill a $200 billion budget deficit (Gonsalves 2004). Equally alarming, a recent Congressional study revealed that 63% of all corporations in 2000 paid no taxes while “[s]ix in ten corporations reported no tax liability for the five years from 1996 through 2000, even though corporate profits were growing at record-breaking levels during that period” (Woodard 2004:para.11).

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 4 2006 11:35 utc | 7

A green economic base . . .
ya know, that also works well for the Left side of politics in America’s future, when resource shortages and global warming damage upset our highly globalized society.
Relocalization will have American communities and regions consciously giving up on flying lettuce in from Chile, and strawberries in from Auckland. They’ll eat what can be grown within a hundred miles of home — as a Kennedyesque contribution to the New Green America.
The economic tapeworm that globalized capitalism actually is to the working human being, will have much less room to monopolize and dominate localized markets.
Note to self: dump the WalMart shares before 2015, and go long on Carolina sweet potatoes . . .

Posted by: Antifa | Oct 4 2006 11:43 utc | 8

So if I despair at the ability of the party to resist the trance-like drift to war with Iran, it’s not because I think most Democratic politicos don’t want to stop it, but because I realize they can’t stop it — not without breaking the party politically and financially.
I think most Demoplicans don’t want to stop it… rather see no pay-off in doing so. The professional “pols”, and I mean more than just the figureheads that “hold ofice”… the people who make the TV ads, do the image consulting, fluff the pols themselves… all get paid win or lose.
The contract with the people who deliver the campaign dollars does not require that they win, only that they perform in the event that they should win. And they do and they will.
We don’t even have a real politics any more. It’s just about gaming the system for power.
Bomb Iran, export your constituents jobs, bankrupt the nation… none of them care, or care only insofar as their “patrons” care, which turns out to be not at all.
The problem is that most of the population is still insulated from any real suffering. And they are used to the stress and the angst. “That’s life”, in the USA.
There will be no changes made until the plane actually flys into the ground.
Will the bottom just fall out one morning? like it does for Wily E Coyote when his momentum carries him off the Mesa and then finally looks down and sees just several thousand feet of empty air between himself and mother earth?
I don’t know. I think an attack on Iran will signal the neocon endgame, when they’ve judged there’s no more play left in nation.
They’ll arm the bomb and then bail out before the ground comes up to meet the rest of us.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Oct 4 2006 12:46 utc | 9

Uncle $cam
Your blockquote in #7 sounds like the fibs or the cons policies in Canada. Actually it all does. What would most Johnny Canuck’s have to say about all the facts you’ve succinctly laid out?
“Oh happy day and phuque the facts. I got a tax cut.”
But schools and hospitals will pay the price.
“I’ll have more money to make my own choices. Besides government is inefficient and wasteful. Private companies have greater efficiencies would serve both better and with my tax cut I’ll be able to choose the best.”
The conversation will then turn and this same person will then describe how wasteful and inefficient the private company they work for is.
This really cracks me up. People talk about government being wasteful and business being far less so, yet I bet EVERYONE has worked for at least one company that could put gov’t to shame.
I’m an IT guy. I worked for one company were I moved the same fella 4 times in 10 months – right back to his original location (not to mention any other moves). Why? Managers had changed and when that happens, invariably (in my experience) people are moved around just to show how decisive the new boss is.

Posted by: gmac | Oct 4 2006 13:13 utc | 10

Antifa,
“we find ourselves gathered at the bedside of an ailing, perhaps dying Democratic Party”
I feel more like the doctor in Pink Floyd’s The Wall trying to prop up Comfortably Numb Geldof for just one more electoral show.
‘Hello. Is there anybody in there?’
The blogging adrenaline currently sustaining the strung out, DC Dem has-beens is surely better injected into a new generation of power trippers who at least have a clue about what country they are in and what decade it is.
But this year’s tickets are sold, the audience is waiting, and the show must go on.
Still, once the current tour ends in November, we will certainly need to see about convincing these guys to shuffle off to political rehab, and if they won’t do that, retire to their stately homes where they can ghostwrite foggy, self-aggrandizing memoirs of their wild life on the road.
I prefer the latter option – if only because I am sick to death of paying for these over-priced oldies reunion tours where all they do is play the same songs I’ve already heard a million times – most of which I never really liked in the first place.

Posted by: Night Owl | Oct 4 2006 15:37 utc | 11

Billmon said:
“The comparison with the Whigs is spot on, in fact I’ve made it myself.”
Now it would be pretty darned interesting if the Man who is not so Fine was stealing Mr. Mon’s stuff.
But what would be even more interesting would be if Billmon was chanelling HST without even knowing (it):
How long, O Lord… How long? When will it end? The only possible good that can come of this wretched campaign is the ever-increasing likelihood that it will cause the Democratic Party to self-destruct.
A lot of people are seriously worried about this, but I am not one of them. I have never been much of a Party Man myself… and the more I learn about the realities of national politics, the more I’m convinced that the Democratic Party is an atavistic endeavor- more an Obstacle than a Vehicle- and that there is really no hope of accomplishing anything genuinely new or different in American politics until the Democratic Party is done away with.
Remember the Whigs, Larry (O’Brien)? They went belly up, with no warning at all, when a handfull of young politicians like Abe Lincoln decided to move out on their own, and fuck the Whigs… which worked out very nicely, and when it became almost instantly clear that the whig hierarchy was just a gang of old impotent windbags with no real power at all, the Party just curled up and died… and any politician stupid enough to “stay loyal” went down with the ship.

Or, maybe this just some kind of Sunshine Special-inspired BooHoo-driven conspiracy fueled by Ibogaine?
After all, hasn’t Mr. Fineman been seen rolling his eyes quite a bit lately?
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Posted by: RossK | Oct 4 2006 16:51 utc | 12

@Antifa – There’s a legitimate role for large industries to have a voice in the affairs of the nation. They get a input. They get a voice.
Why???

Posted by: b | Oct 4 2006 17:25 utc | 13

Because if they don’t, they’ll take their ball and go home or China

Posted by: gmac | Oct 4 2006 17:42 utc | 14

Antifa–
Abstract democratic theory should have died long ago.
In practice, it works like this: Once you provide means for the creation of large corporations, your democracy is over: You have returned to oligarchy. Most of the 20th century was like this. The change in America is that by the 21st century oligarchy has narrowed. There just aren’t enough separate corporate enterprises to keep an oligarchy going. What comes next is monopolistic, monarchial power. There is a very intense fight brewing over who shall be the front for this. Bush is no longer thought satisfactory.

Posted by: Gaianne | Oct 4 2006 21:03 utc | 15

I am not sure that Billmon is spot on in this one. While I believe one party is going to go over the cliff, and right now it looks like the dems, if might end up being the Republicans – read on if you can, and bear with me and my poor spelling/grammer (because of time just threw this together so its not the best writing, but the idea is provocative).
In general, this country was founded by White Dissenting protestants, who were either protestant for economic reasons, or for religious reasons.
The people that got here first pretty much took a controling interest in the ownership of this society.
The problem was, in the 18th century, these folks had the resources of a continent at their disposal, the question was how to exploit it – you need labor, effort, capital, efficiency etc…. Much of that had to be imported, but idealy, without losing a controling interest.
The political and economic system that they developed, when you think of it, was an ingenious system that allowed them to exploit the continent without losing control – it allowed for the maximum amount of plurality but still allows the same core to maintain the controlling interest of the political and economic system.
If you look at the Repulican party it is basically made up of the same people who founded this country with some add ons.
It is still the party of dissenters – Southern dissenters to the civil rights and Civil war, Religious dissenters to the social libertarian movement, and Economic dissenters to the New Deal/Fair Deal. But they are still basically the founding and controling dissenters that started this country.
Its like a corporation, the guys that founded google maintain a controling interest, though they allow others to invest in it, makes some gains, but not gain control. The dissenters were here first, so it’s primarily their country, they allow minority participation, just like a corporation, but maintain the controling interest.
That means the Democrats by default are everyone else. That means the Democrats are the party of pluralism. That means there will always be less cohesion in the Democratic party. That means the Democrats are by default the party of the loyal opposition. That means that the Democrats are the party of minorities and immigrants. And that means, while the Republicans from time to time can fashion an ideology, the ideology of the Democrats has to be, and always will be, pragmatism.
But guess what, Pragmatism and plurality is what this country is really based upon. Before their was liberty, there was English Common law. As Churchill said of Architecture, the same can be said of law: we shape it, and it, in turn, shapes us (paraphrased) – which is why the Repugs want to control the judiciary. English common law is really a system based upon pragmatism, as famously articulated by Oliver Wendall Holmes.
The law’s first job was to render justice. But within Justice, it developed a bias for, over time, liberty in rendering decisions. Why? because liberty was cost effective (pragmatism)- there’s little price tag on enforcing it.
Over several centuries that bias towards liberty grew. Then the Churchill effect caused the culture to change and eventually liberty made the jump from jurisprudence to political theory and ideology = just in time for the American Revolution, and every revolution needs a revolutionary ideology.
Pragmatism is the ideology of our legal system, and plurality is the ideology of our constitution. The Dems have that going for them.
So the republicans have cohesion and they have money, but they always have had that, but they only have a 1.5% majorty.
The fascist revolution taking place right now is only with a 1.5 majority.
I would agree that one party is falling apart, but it might not be the Democratic party.
I think the problem with Bill Mon’s analysis is to compare repubicans and democrats as apples and apples, when they are really apples and oranges.
The real problem with the Democratic party is that it lost its core strength with the decline of labor and the worker’s movement in general. The other constituencies, are those seaking civil rights: Gays, Black, Minorities, feminist – but that’s just enough to guarantee a minority and it doesn’t bring forth leaders that can attract large majorities. But the real problem is Gays, Blacks, Minorities and feminist constituency (and many if not most prominent feminist are lesbians, Jewish, or other minorities) comes off as an party allien to America – the loss of labor took from the dems their claim to nativism.
(By the way, the present problem with Foley is going to have a whiplash affect on the gay community as people won’t be able to tell pedophiles from homosexuals and the Republicans, once shed of Foley, will lump them together as a threat to our children.)
While Bill Mon’s analysis may prove right, it is certainly not automatic.
In Prof of POlitical Science, Robert O. Paxton’s “the Anatomy of Fascism” there’s a small excert on the Anatomy of Swedish Socialism. Swedish socialism is the result of a long held alliance between rural interest and urban worker’s interest. Furthermore,if you look at Europe as a whole, pandering to the farmers under the CAP keeps the liberal movement strong over there – and perhaps in Japan as well, though, recently less so.
Currently the Democrats strength is in the urban states, but they’ve been losing their asses in the rural states. That’s all begining to change now and in all places in Kansas. Please read Krugmans column from monday on this.
The Democrats are showing promising penetration in rural midwestern and mountain states North of the Mason Dixon line, which west of Missouri is the Kansas/Oklahoma border.
In Kansas ‘rational’ republicans are crossing over to the Democratic party. Why? because when your ideology is pragmatism and plurality, there is room for rationality.
This demonstrates that Bill Mons’ analogy of the old whigs becoming Republicans because of the old Northwest switching to the Republicans might be happening again, except this time the role of the old north west of 1850s is being played by folks a little farther to the north and west – the Kansans, the Montanans, and so on.
To win the last two elections, the Republicans have had to sweep the entire rural belt of the south, the Mountains states, the great plains states and nearly half the midwest states.
The Southern states aren’t likely to peel off that quickly as they are culturally dissenters, but we are seeing penetration in the near north already in the senate races of tennessee and Kenturky.
But the great plains and the Moutain states are low hanging fruit, and there is fruitful work being done there by the Govenors of Kansas and Montana. Kansas is the more important one because its a geographical block from the rest of the northern Great plains and Mountain states.
As the Swedish model suggest there’s a natural alliance between rural and urban workers interests. For instance, the cities need energy, the rural localities can provide it. Schwietzer (gov of monatana) has advocated the building of liquified coal plants in rural montana (and America has more coal than the Saudi’s have oil) – they can provide fuel for are vehicles at $1 a gallon. (the problem: a liquified coal plant cost $1.5 billion – but for the cost of Iraq, we could have built 350 of them) Combine that with biodiesal fuels, and modern, safe, nuclear energy and suddenly rural America is providing urban America with all our energy needs. That means all the money we send to the Middle East goes to long suffering Rural America. The Republicans can’t do that because they are captive to the petroleum oligarchy.
So mountain and great planes states could switch over to the Democratic party and create a Swedish style liberal constituency. It will also enrich our long suffering hinterland and provide an injection of American Nativism that the Democrats haven’t seen since the decline of the labor movement.
Just as the old northwest provided leadership in Lincoln, the New Northwest is likely to provide the leadership for the New Democratic party. Why, because they reak of an American nativeness. And the genuine nativeness of those folks will give the Democratic party a more native look, feel and appeal. That’s the one thing missing since the decline of Labor.
If all this happens, it might not be the Democratic party that goes the way of the whigs, but the Republican party.
The dissenters are irrational. The policies are insane and hurting the country. They have bled the treasury dry why fighting wars for the petroleum oligarchy in the middle east with American blood and treasure, when we have all the energy we need here. Meanwhile the religious will attack the pluto crats and the plutocrats will attack the religious. If the petroleum oligopoly is busted up, the core money constituency of the Republican party will be on the receiving end of a coup de main.
If all this happens we can largely withdraw most of our presence from the middle east and give it back to the muslims and let them figure out how to reconcile themselves with modernism. If all this happens we will have our country back!

Posted by: Bubbles | Oct 4 2006 22:16 utc | 16

GMAC – Because if they don’t, they’ll take their ball and go home or China
Maybe you didn´t notice – they have been going to China for years. Plus why not make a law, that makes their ball our ball?

Posted by: b | Oct 5 2006 4:56 utc | 17