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October 27, 2006
OT 06-101
OT 101 – How to post on an open thread – starting now
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Krugman (liberated link)
But giving up in Iraq and putting the troops in Afghanistan would not win anything there either. The Mongols, the Macedonians, and arguably the Persians before them, did it. But there was a slight difference in their methods, or in the sheer intelligence of their leaders, and probably both. But there’s something to be said about the inability of any empire to rule the region for more than a short time in the last 6-700 years. Like current Iraqi mess, beating them is actually the easiest part; keeping control is the really hard job. Posted by: CluelessJoe | Oct 27 2006 7:02 utc | 2 Lakoff Staying the Course Right Over a Cliff
Kirkuk: a city at boiling point
Curb sought on counsel to detainees
John Francis Lee posted this Pepe Escobar piece at Juan Coles, seeking a response:
Problem is that Juan Cole rarely comments on such (economic) issues. As much as his blog is essential in understanding Iraq, I’ve always been frusterated that he often avoids the social impact of the economic policies imposed on that country. As Escobar points out, the hydrocarbon laws due to be signed by (IMF) mandate could’nt be more important in the immediate and long term future. We’ll see if he responds. Posted by: anna missed | Oct 27 2006 8:24 utc | 6 yes anna missed, the elephant in the room you won’t hear a peep about it in msm. seems like cole would address this. the timing is so ominous w/the escalation of troops. i’m sure the iraqis know it. how could they not. Posted by: annie | Oct 27 2006 8:56 utc | 7 Memory expert taken to task in Libby hearing Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 27 2006 10:08 utc | 8 Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Child Rape Photos Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 27 2006 10:21 utc | 10 Anger as rabbis demand boy be recircumcised Getting a little obsessive about blood and penises here, I think. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 27 2006 10:27 utc | 11 Gulag Ameripelago, Pt. 4 (New Fall Fashions)
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 27 2006 10:35 utc | 12 Quebec’s chief electoral officer is urging the province to stop using electronic voting systems.
Diebold banking machines are making an appearance, so voting machines aren’t likely far behind… Posted by: gmac | Oct 27 2006 10:56 utc | 13 Consider this.
and this:
The sooner we realise Money makes world go around (see Iraq oil post above) then Fallujah was just a debit for those investment wankers in Wall Street. Posted by: Cloned Poster | Oct 27 2006 12:49 utc | 14
Boo! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 27 2006 13:31 utc | 15 Back off, baby! (Forbes, 26 Oct 06):
So it’s official: This metrics stuff is waaay too hard for a crack outfit like the US military, although somehow those “doctor” types over at The Lancet have managed to count the piles and piles of dead Iraqis:
Anyone else out there think that the partitioning of Iraq is going to shape up like the partitioning up of Poland under Greiser, Frank and Forster? Posted by: Dismal Science | Oct 27 2006 14:35 utc | 17 An interesting series of posts grasping at the GOP elephant. Posted by: Jim S | Oct 27 2006 15:33 utc | 18 A Marriage Made in Hell – Blackwater hired Kennie Starr to defend it in Wrongful Death Suits filed by families of employees killed in Iraq…From Whitewater to Blackwater Posted by: jj | Oct 27 2006 16:16 utc | 19 @CP @14 – incredible – esp. when one knows that those “jews fleeing arab countries” were often “made” leave through covered actions of zionist groups.
With that in mind read The Year Of Playing Dirtier – Negative Ads Get Positively Surreal and you will see the writing on the wall, i.e. the Reps keeping both, House and Senate. Confused wingnuts (via Froomkin)
For those of you who didn’t think the daily governmental grind on American civil liberties could’t possibly get any worse, it just has. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 27 2006 18:52 utc | 22 Somehow, this didn’t make the mainstream news…
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 27 2006 18:59 utc | 23 Warships deploy around S. Arabia oil facilities
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 27 2006 19:07 utc | 24 Re: my # 23 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 27 2006 20:26 utc | 25
Posted by: DM | Oct 27 2006 22:20 utc | 26 Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 28 2006 0:39 utc | 28 .. and are proud partisans of ethnic cleansing. Posted by: DM | Oct 28 2006 0:52 utc | 29 Back off! Posted by: DM | Oct 28 2006 0:57 utc | 30 (aw shit. stuffed up the link above) Posted by: DM | Oct 28 2006 0:59 utc | 31 anna missed : Posted by: John Francis Lee | Oct 28 2006 1:51 utc | 33 there’s a film available now on the internets called death of a president in which the shooting of bush is depicted. Posted by: slothrop | Oct 28 2006 2:55 utc | 35 @slothrop, #35: Yes, and my only comment — I haven’t seen the movie and don’t plan to do so — is that Salon’s mini-review concludes with the infuriating notion that the film makes you feel sympathetic to Bush because, however wrong he is, he has such strong convictions. Strong convictions! Good grief, is that all it takes to get sympathy? Hey, what a defense! “Maybe what I did was wrong, but I had strong convictions so you should feel sorry for me now that I’ve been caught.” Every psychotic serial killer has strong convictions, and if I feel any sorrow on those occasions when they are caught and punished, it does not spring, nor should it, from their strong convictions. Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Oct 28 2006 3:29 utc | 36 @john francis lee Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 28 2006 3:33 utc | 37 @R’giap Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 28 2006 3:53 utc | 38 gracias, r’giap Posted by: b real | Oct 28 2006 4:26 utc | 39 When will anyone begin to care about this. Posted by: ww | Oct 28 2006 4:33 utc | 40 @b real et al… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 28 2006 4:43 utc | 41 Colbert I. King, and oped writer for the Washington Post, shows that he knows NOTHING about Iraq: The Grand Ayatollah Behind the Curtain
All this a column that depcits itself as anti-Bush. The President of Senegal, Abdoulaye Wade, writes: Africa Over A Barrel
narco news reports indymedia journalist, brad will, was fatally shot by pro-government attackers while filming in oaxaca. i wonder how the administration will justify this. my heart hurts for the people of oaxaca. i know their poverty and pride and am awestruck by their perseverance. Posted by: conchita | Oct 28 2006 6:07 utc | 45 Ghaith Abdul-Ahad in Baghdad: Tea and kidnapping – behind the lines of a civil war
narco news reports indymedia journalist, brad will, was fatally shot by pro-government attackers while filming in oaxaca Posted by: jj | Oct 28 2006 7:44 utc | 48
Standard Late Friday Release: Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 28 2006 8:15 utc | 50 The Fisk piece: Robert Fisk: Mystery of Israel’s secret uranium bomb
I haven’t followed all recent threads, so this Cryptome link Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 28 2006 10:10 utc | 52 The Escobar Piece in Asia Times Online :
The question to Juan Cole is back up at his site. Still no answer. Posted by: John Francis Lee | Oct 28 2006 11:22 utc | 53 well, tgvwyci, i’ll admit i haven’t seen the whole film yet. i just can’t get past the decisive scene, when i have to rewind and rewatch again & again. Posted by: slothrop | Oct 28 2006 17:16 utc | 54 some of you here have an interest in the churchill affaire. this is longish, but not yet posted by aaup, so:
Posted by: slothrop | Oct 28 2006 18:50 utc | 55 Three Palestinians killed in West Bank
Egypt prepares for Israeli air raids
US airstrike kills six in Iraq
Aljazeera documents the operations of the US/Israeli Axis of Evil under the Unified Command in the Middle East. Ho hum. Posted by: John Francis Lee | Oct 28 2006 19:27 utc | 56 quite some interesting scenes in this (long) Elizabeth Rubin NYT piece: Taking the Fight to the Taliban In case you missed this Simon Jenkins piece in the Guardian, last week, heres the last paragraph — that says it all: Posted by: anna missed | Oct 29 2006 9:46 utc | 58 Good LA Times OpEd: Iran sounds an awful lot like Iraq – There is a disturbing sense of déjà vu in Washington’s actions and rhetoric.
This must be the stupidest paradox in modern history. Neither America nor Britain has the guts to rule Iraq properly, yet they lack the guts to leave. Posted by: annie | Oct 29 2006 16:30 utc | 60 @annie, et al…
This makes me sick to my stomach…oh, God how these fucking basturds need to pay… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 29 2006 16:38 utc | 61 really, if the americans should lay a hand on saddam hussein they really will understand the meaning of the opening of the gates of hell Posted by: r’giap | Oct 29 2006 23:09 utc | 62 uncle, your link is not reperesentative. can you repost, i’m interested, very. Posted by: annie | Oct 30 2006 4:47 utc | 63 Saw this today in Debkafile – And while I take their stuff with a big grain of salt, I still saw elements in here that were worthy of note, particularly the rumors of an al-Qaeda attack on an off-shore oil installation being imminent. (How convenient, if so…)
Posted by: Bea | Oct 30 2006 13:31 utc | 64 Bea, pure fantasy, just like London could be attacked by Iraq in 45 minutes. Posted by: Cloned Poster | Oct 30 2006 14:29 utc | 65 @67 Posted by: Tantalus | Oct 30 2006 16:29 utc | 68 i don’t know. there’s not much ideology separating candidates, that’s for sure. Posted by: slothrop | Oct 30 2006 18:03 utc | 69 quoted by anna missed: Posted by: Noirette | Oct 30 2006 19:50 utc | 70 Two Months Ago:
Two months later: DoD to bolster public relations effort
Those folks in the E-Ring can do some fancy maneuvers, sometimes. Posted by: sysprog | Oct 31 2006 2:40 utc | 71 Glitches Cited in Early Voting
Election officials apparently found that putting both hands over their ears and chanting “LA LA LA LA LA… I know nothiiiiiiing!” decreased their awareness of potential problems, and that having a non-Republican vote changed to a Republican one doesn’t constitute a serious problem, anyway.
It’s still not the kind of problem, however, that sends oversight and review commissions into high gear. Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 31 2006 4:57 utc | 72 Here’s a crazy little thought experiment. Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 31 2006 15:15 utc | 73 Monolycus-
may 4. nearly six months ago when it was first brought up, only now getting attention in the MSM. so that brings the timing of this story into question, scoring points for the fear-mongers.
now obviously the opposition would claim that chavez rigged the machines to put down another attempted ouster, but w/ the overwhelming poll numbers that chavez brings in, it doesn’t seem necessary for his side to pad the system. a better explanation for using sequoia to supply the voting machines would likely have to do w/ this little fact
it was in the interest of the venezuela govt to have a verifiable paper trail. not so, for this country. and what better way to discredit sequoia’s machines, eh? Posted by: b real | Oct 31 2006 17:07 utc | 74 |
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