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October 31, 2006
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Zawahiri Was Target in U.S. Attack on Religious School in Pakistan
That may be very well the end of Musharraf … Gen. Odem How to cut and run
Will the Tories shaft Blair over Iraq this afternoon?
Posted by: Cloned Poster | Oct 31 2006 11:51 utc | 3 Culture warriors conspiring… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 31 2006 15:18 utc | 6 uncle Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 31 2006 15:43 utc | 7 Bush White House: “A Cataclysmic Fight to the Death” Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 31 2006 15:47 utc | 8 will someone one day explain the site meter Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 31 2006 15:48 utc | 9 Can anyone access the site meter? How do you view it? Posted by: LittlePig | Oct 31 2006 16:23 utc | 11 I found this at Blah3 yesterday and I just cannot stop thinking about this. This was passed on the same day as the torture bill was approved. Yet, as far as I know it has never been mentioned on any media outlet. I do not remember hearing anything about this until it hit me in the face yesterday. It just scares the crap out of me.
The original story was from TowardFreedom and it just freaks me out that this was sneaked in by Senator Warner on the same day the Torture Bill was approved. I believe they are connected in some pretty scary ways. Posted by: apishapa | Oct 31 2006 16:24 utc | 12
@rgiap – 9
it just freaks me out that this was sneaked in by Senator Warner on the same day the Torture Bill was approved. Posted by: jj | Oct 31 2006 17:32 utc | 16 stoy, Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Oct 31 2006 17:36 utc | 17 welcome stoy Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 31 2006 17:47 utc | 19 stoy! nice to see you. what are you going to be for halloween? Posted by: fauxreal | Oct 31 2006 17:48 utc | 20
Posted by: Alamet | Oct 31 2006 18:04 utc | 21 watched cspan on th ‘internets’ & there was a reunion of pollsters & others at george washington university Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 31 2006 18:11 utc | 22 Katherine Harris is writing a tell-all book? Or is this just a threat b/c she needs campaign funds… Posted by: fauxreal | Oct 31 2006 18:19 utc | 23 just a learned a new english vocable – sycophancy
Worth your time:
and Garry Wills at NYRB A Country Ruled by Faith
a silly holiday deserves a silly song, even if it is from last year — shrub singing Monster Hash Posted by: b real | Oct 31 2006 20:47 utc | 26 Bush promised his evangelical followers faith-based social services, which he called “compassionate conservatism.” He went beyond that to give them a faith-based war, faith-based law enforcement, faith-based education, faith-based medicine, and faith-based science. He could deliver on his promises because he stocked the agencies handling all these problems, in large degree, with born-again Christians of his own variety. Posted by: Noirette | Oct 31 2006 20:47 utc | 27 @uncle I usually make a point of never returning to a thread I have commented on, that way hopefully avoiding the cat fighting and mud-slinging which I never seem able to resist, but I was a bit taken aback to see that any sort of alignment with Did spoutings implies a conflict with Conchita, because although I don’t agree with Conchita’s point of view on a number of issues, she is a much better person with far more sensible points of view than she appears to let herself be (shit that came out all patronising which isn’t how I’m feeling). Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 31 2006 21:43 utc | 28 pieter botha i hope you find yr friends in hell – may whatever was left of your soul burn Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 31 2006 23:07 utc | 31 & unsurprisingly the gutless piece of garbage that passes for parliament in england has of course been buggered by blair Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 31 2006 23:17 utc | 32 B: Lind is right on the money, as often. Posted by: Clueless Joe | Nov 1 2006 0:22 utc | 33 And not to forget, from the archives of early 20th century history, the British in Mesopotamia… Posted by: Bea | Nov 1 2006 1:00 utc | 36 Pentagon unit to push US message
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 1 2006 1:03 utc | 37 Greetings, comrades. Posted by: Maxcrat | Nov 1 2006 1:13 utc | 38 maxcrat Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 1 2006 1:30 utc | 39 Complaints Mount at U.S. Fortress in Iraq
Posted by: annie | Nov 1 2006 1:54 utc | 40 memo reveals Air America advertiser blacklist Posted by: annie | Nov 1 2006 3:31 utc | 41 Israeli air strikes kills Palestinian, wounds 17
Okay… sorry for being a dim bulb here, but I’m just trying to collate this data. Israelis are firing on Palestinians for approaching troops in Gaza that they had allegedly withdrawn a year ago? Let me do some math here… nothing into nothing… carry the zero… no, this doesn’t add up at all. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 1 2006 4:36 utc | 42 @Monolycus #42 Posted by: Bea | Nov 1 2006 5:02 utc | 43 One US-coup candidate taken to Amman for safekeeping
Posted by: annie | Nov 1 2006 5:15 utc | 44 Over in the West Bank, the situation is increasingly grimmer as well:
Posted by: Bea | Nov 1 2006 5:15 utc | 45 Wonder if advertisers warned off supporting non-repug radio? Posted by: jj | Nov 1 2006 6:33 utc | 46 Shredding with Dick Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 1 2006 6:50 utc | 47 Grrr… my other link didn’t post, I was referring to the recent Fire at Fort Meade. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 1 2006 7:23 utc | 48 Re: the ol’ courthouse fire trick… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 1 2006 7:37 utc | 49 Security Council Seat Tied to Aid
Cutler has a take on the relationship between the new oil laws being discussed and partition:
Posted by: anna missed | Nov 1 2006 9:57 utc | 52 Thank you, anna missed, for the link to Crude Benchmarks at Prof. Cutler’s blog.
leaves room for Pepe Excobar’s observations (Coalition of the drilling) right in the center of the Iraqi debacle. Posted by: John Francis Lee | Nov 1 2006 10:45 utc | 53 the Sunnis/insurgents do not seem to be overwhelmed by taking on both the US military & the Shia militias at the same time. Not a good indicator that they will be easily pacified. Posted by: jony_b_cool | Nov 1 2006 11:33 utc | 54 It’s official: Gaza is the new Chechnya, according to this update from Reuters (Nov 1):
Posted by: Dismal Science | Nov 1 2006 12:37 utc | 55 From Dept of Meet the New(s) Trolls, Same as the Old Trolls. (Uncle’s link @ #4):
Stand by your beds and prepare to be monitored! Posted by: Dismal Science | Nov 1 2006 13:04 utc | 56 Israel’s scandalous siege of Gaza
Until every damn last one of ’em is dead! Posted by: John Francis Lee | Nov 1 2006 13:21 utc | 58 On a positive note: it is snowing in Sweden. Posted by: a swedish kind of death | Nov 1 2006 14:10 utc | 59 Old News… you’ve been warned. No acting surprised later. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 1 2006 16:56 utc | 61 cnn so scandalous Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 1 2006 17:02 utc | 62 the parallel here seems to be blindingly obvious Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 1 2006 17:41 utc | 64 finally, when reduced to this, the magnitude of disaster is comprehensible:
Posted by: slothrop | Nov 1 2006 18:20 utc | 65 Billmon created this entire incident of-a-piece and in response to an inciting incident that had absolutely nothing to do with race at all. Posted by: slothrop | Nov 1 2006 18:42 utc | 66 politics, as usual (on a day home sick i imagine myself uncle $cam) Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 1 2006 19:03 utc | 67 @slothrop #65 Posted by: Bea | Nov 1 2006 20:33 utc | 68 b, i liked having jana’s link on the homepage. it’s gone now . she’s still on the homepage if we scroll tho. Posted by: annie | Nov 1 2006 20:42 utc | 69 1 – it has everything to do w/ power. i understand the volatility of the blackface sign, but am less certain the use of it in this way dilutes the particularity of its historical uses. that sign is an effective parody of the deadly insidiuousness of media complaisance to power. it sure got my attention. Posted by: ebogjonson | Nov 1 2006 21:52 utc | 71 egojonson, there are 2 threads devoted tho this topic here and here Posted by: annie | Nov 1 2006 22:32 utc | 72 I frankly don’t see how excluding any use of the blackface to expose basic relations of power benefits african americans or for that matter proves an “unintended” expression of racism. as I understand it, the image subtends the privileged construction of racial stereotypes robbing the dignity of blacks to do the same. as far as I can tell, cnn itself, in a vastly more complexly disingenuous way, does the same thing to everyone who is not white, rich, and powerful. it’s not the fault of oppressed and concerned people this sophisticated institutional racism/chauvinism lacks the immediate clarity of representations once widely supplied by simple signs like the blackface. the use of the blackface, in this case, helps to reduce the complexity of domination to the grotesquely obvious meaning(s) of the blackface–meanings which persist in inferentially racist ways even in wolf blitzer’s claims of “nonpartisanship.” Posted by: slothrop | Nov 2 2006 0:07 utc | 73 It has begun…Pentagon Launches Pre-Emptive Strike on Media there are now some 13 Kerry vids on youtube…all by new members, all prop-agenda all the time. Get em fighting about faux issues,same ol’ Elite divide and conquer. Two sides same coin. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 2 2006 0:31 utc | 74 Great post up on Andrew Sullivan’s blog, and he repeated all this on CNN today. You can watch the interview with him and Christopher Hitchens on AMERICAblog.
For anyone overseas who doesn’t know the lingo, “intervention” is from the lingo of Alcoholics Anonymous — it is what you do to an alcoholic in deep denial about his drinking problem, when you bring in his or her relatives and friends to confront the drinker en masse until denial is no longer possible. Posted by: Bea | Nov 2 2006 3:13 utc | 75 Diebold demands that HBO cancel documentary on voting machines
The legal grounds for Diebold’s objection apparently rests on the fact that HBO would be violating intellectual property rights… since Disney/ABC already owns the technique of using “material examples of inaccurate reporting in the production of documentaries”, which were purchased shortly before the airing of The Path to 9/11. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 2 2006 4:27 utc | 76 (rhetorical questions… we all know the answers. No need to respond) Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 2 2006 5:29 utc | 77 nicaragua’s presidential election is this sunday & w/ ortega leading in the polls, the u.s. keeps waving it’s big stick around, threatening to beat down the people of nicaragua even further should they not vote in the interests of the u.s.
late october, passing the stick around
so that’s what congress has been up to, huh? bullying the voters of the 2nd poorest nation in the hemisphere. a couple of swell guys. not.
“totalitarianism”? jeb’s been hanging w/ jean kirkpatrick & her IRI friends, methinks.
i’m thinking of another word, and it isn’t “ironic”. Posted by: b real | Nov 2 2006 6:38 utc | 78 Fitting to b real’s:
Imagine such a incredible problem – like the lebanese voting for a government … monolycus #76
Posted by: annie | Nov 2 2006 8:44 utc | 81 Kagan with some observations on Europe vs. US
That’s what I fear … Can we hope thathe will now talk? Sanchez has apparently been forced into retirement. Posted by: ww | Nov 2 2006 10:07 utc | 83 I HIGHLY recommend that you take the time to watch this latest Keith Olbermann commentary. It is soooooo good, and brutally, brutally honest. Watch it, don’t just read it, if possible. Posted by: Bea | Nov 2 2006 14:17 utc | 84 The rumors have started. Messaged to me at 9:25 New York time, regarding the S&P futures pits in Chicago: Posted by: mats | Nov 2 2006 14:38 utc | 85 @mats Posted by: Bea | Nov 2 2006 14:44 utc | 86 I’d wait and take it w/salt but do take it… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 2 2006 14:47 utc | 87 Thx both, that was a bit of futures traders trying to make things sound other than they were so as to squeeze out a few extra points. Par for the course. Posted by: mats | Nov 2 2006 14:54 utc | 88 Alyssa Peterson:“non-hostile weapons discharge.”
Suicide, yeah, that’s it. All those candy-asses who don’t support abuse and torture are self-destructive, aren’t they?
God, now I need a drink and it’s not even 10am yet… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 2 2006 16:55 utc | 90 Because there wasn’t enough ample proof that my countrymen are irremediably stupid… SUV sales spike during October while gas prices are temporarily lowered for the election. Just something for them to slap some A HREF=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmsOIjzQ1V8″>yellow ribbons all over when they can’t afford to operate the friggin’ behemoths in a few months. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 2 2006 17:18 utc | 91 Gaaahhh… close your friggin’ tags, Wolfie! I got so caught up in wondering how small a person’s penis would have to be to justify owning an SUV that I forgot to watch my HTML codes. Posted by: Monolycus | Nov 2 2006 17:21 utc | 92 Uncle’s link above is to a sober, convincingly-argued essay in the Washington Post written by “Vladimir Bukovsky, who spent nearly 12 years in Soviet prisons, labor camps and psychiatric hospitals for nonviolent human rights activities …” Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 2 2006 17:27 utc | 93 Hi all. First time, long time…yadda, yadda. Posted by: Daldude | Nov 2 2006 17:38 utc | 95 paul craig roberts Posted by: remembereringgiap | Nov 2 2006 19:30 utc | 96 Man claims 3-year sexual relationship with pastor Ted Haggard
Posted by: annie | Nov 2 2006 20:33 utc | 97
Posted by: John Francis Lee | Nov 2 2006 23:45 utc | 98 The continued war on Journalist’s… Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 3 2006 0:22 utc | 99 “You join the cult of Hercules to the cult of Mammon, Posted by: pb | Nov 3 2006 3:04 utc | 100 |
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