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September 30, 2006
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Kathleen A. Sullivan:Eyewitness to a Remarkable Era in Covert Human History Iraq Revelations Analyzed by a CIA MKULTRA Survivor – Part 1

Part 1 will review common responses to news about the abuse of Iraqi prisoners and detainees, and will present information about how the abuse and torture recently experienced by the prisoners and detainees is similar to abuse and torture reportedly experienced by North American survivors of government mind-control experiments and forced enslavement.
Since April 2004, the U.S. has been emotionally and politically slammed by deeply disturbing reports that are still emerging from Iraq and Afghanistan. We have learned about, and perhaps seen pictures of, sadistic and sexual acts perpetrated against Iraqi prisoners of war by military police, members of our military and intelligence communities, and Pentagon-contracted intelligence interrogators.

Happy Samhain everyone, it’s gonna be a blast! It’s All Souls Day, everyday, now. Trick or Treason?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 30 2006 6:03 utc | 1

go read Floyd if you haven’t already.
Who are these people? Who are these useless hanks of bone and fat that call themselves Senators of the United States? Let’s call them what they really are, let’s speak the truth about what they’ve done today with their votes on the bill to enshrine Bush’s gulag of torture and endless detention into American law.
Who are they? The murderers of democracy.
Sold our liberty to keep their coddled, corrupt backsides squatting in the Beltway gravy a little longer.
Who are they? The murderers of democracy.
Cowards and slaves, giving up our most ancient freedoms to a dull-eyed, dim-witted pipsqueak and his cohort of bagmen, cranks and degenerate toadies. For make no mistake: despite all the lies and distorted media soundbites, the draconian strictures of this bill apply to American citizens as well as to all them devilish foreigners.
Who are they? The murderers of democracy.
Traitors to the nation, filthy time-servers and bootlickers, turning America into a rogue state, an open champion of torture, repression and terror.
Who are they? The murderers of democracy.
Threw our freedom on the ground and raped it, beat it, shot it, stuck their knives into it and set it on fire.
Who are they? The murderers of democracy.
If there was an ounce of moxie left in the American system, these white-collar criminals would be in shackles right now, arrested for high treason, for collusion with a tyrant who is gutting the constitution, pushing terrorism to new heights and waging an unholy, illegal war of aggression that’s killed tens of thousands of innocent people and bled our country dry.
There is no honor in them. There is no decency, no morality, no honesty – nothing but fear, nothing but greed, nothing but base servility. Cringing, wretched little creatures, bowing to the will of a third-rate thug and his gang of moral perverts. This is their record. This is their doing. This is the shame they will have to live with. And this is the darkness, rank, fetid and smelling of blood, that now covers us all.

Posted by: DM | Sep 30 2006 7:18 utc | 2

Dafur fooleys

Hawa Salih fled her village once before, forced out when Janjaweed militia backed by the Sudanese government attacked the area because it harboured rebel fighters. The war moved on to other parts of this huge region of western Sudan, and two years ago she and her family felt safe enough to go home and restart their lives.
Now they are homeless again, forced out this time by the very rebels who defended them before. Worse still, it happened after a peace deal was signed in May in a heavily trumpeted ceremony, which Hilary Benn, Britain’s international development secretary, helped to broker along with top US and African Union negotiators.
Instead of bringing peace, the deal has only rekindled a war.

While Britain has joined the Bush administration in criticising Khartoum for refusing to accept UN troops in Darfur, it now emerges that Britain is working with the Sudanese government to try to sell the peace deal in the camps.
Hilary Benn’s department is funding Simon Haselock and Andrew Harker, two British experts with Bosnian experience, to help develop a media campaign extolling the peace agreement. Although they are attached to the African Union, which is in charge of monitoring the faltering peace deal, they will be using Sudanese government resources.

“The displaced people in the camps took the peace deal as a complete imposition from the outside. The negotiations should have been linked to feedback from leaders in the camps,” said one UN official.

The stupidity of western “humanitarian” intervention.

Posted by: b | Sep 30 2006 7:18 utc | 3

Oh boy.
Uncle has dropped some amazing links into the dialog today.

Posted by: jonku | Sep 30 2006 8:07 utc | 4

I’ve been “away” for a few days so this Wayne Madsen report fleshing out links between the Sibel Edmonds case
the circumstances surrounding the “outing of Brewster Jennings”
have probably been already cited here, but certainly are of
interest.

For those following the Chichakli case, here is a recent update
to his website where he talks about his lawsuits against the U.S.
and U.N., and also answers the interesting question of how he
will pay his legal fees.

It is not inconceivable that the Edmonds and Chichakli stories
will intersect somewhere down the line, just as Watergate and
the Ellsberg break-in did back in Nixon’s time. Of course,
there seem to be so many seamy cover-ups going on that a
chain reaction of cross-referenced revelations is by no means
impossible, given a bit more blogger pushing and some aggressive
and ambitious “mainstream” reporters, the latter being a species that has appeared to be as extinct as the dodo bird.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Sep 30 2006 9:36 utc | 5

Again, apologies if this heartwarming testimonial for CACI’s patriotic efforts has already been posted. That video is complemented by this membership list of private security firms operating for the U.S. government in Iraq (which had been posted earlier here). The latter gives an idea of the scale (undoubtedly understated) of the pig-trough provided by the war in Iraq.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Sep 30 2006 9:47 utc | 6

Diebold Added Secret Patch to Georgia E-Voting Systems in 2002, Whistleblowers Say

APN) ATLANTA � Top Diebold corporation officials ordered workers to install secret files to Georgia�s electronic voting machines shortly before the 2002 Elections, at least two whistleblowers are now asserting, Atlanta Progressive News has learned.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Sep 30 2006 12:06 utc | 7

We keep asking for the reason KB&R were contracted to build detention facilities in the ‘States. Maybe the reason is to avoid a situation like this one.
It also answers the question of where a good place would be to hold your next crime spree. Just sayin’.

Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 30 2006 15:09 utc | 8

Get this: the parents didn’t want to pursue this once they were told. How unnatural. Most parents do not lightly send off their 16-year-old children to dens of corruption such as DC. It would take a certain amount of trust that they were handing them over to a program with good standards, I would think. This is an example of a horrible violation of trust. I just cannot imagine parents not wanting some heads to roll.
And “Non-explicit”????? What did he want, porn photos involving the perp?
From, Foley resigns from Congress over e-mails
“…Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., who sponsored the page from his district, told reporters that he learned of the e-mails from a reporter some months ago and passed on the information to Rep. Thomas Reynolds, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Republican campaign organization.
Alexander said he did not pursue the matter further because “his parents said they didn’t want me to do anything.”
Carl Forti, a spokesman for the GOP campaign organization, said Reynolds learned from Alexander that the parents did not want to pursue the matter. Forti said, however, that the matter did go before the House Page Board _ the three lawmakers and two House officials who oversee the pages.
Shimkus, who avoided reporters for hours, worked out his statement with Speaker Dennis Hastert’s office. He said he promptly investigated what he thought were non-explicit message exchanges….
What’s more, Washington Post Changes Boehner Quote on Foley The Washington Post has edited out the quote by Hastert saying he was taking care of the Foley scandal.
In late 2000, Foley played a large role in aiding George W. Bush during the Presidential election recount controversy in Florida.”
Is he Now gettting removed in case he becomes a loud mouth about election 2000.
Harris was also removed …
The 2000 coup will not be investigated as the many helpers of bush are removed.
It seems, NONE may challenge the boy/god /king and his reign of terror against humanity.
The Bush dynasty = Americas first family of Terror.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 30 2006 23:25 utc | 9

New? New molestation allegation dogs arrested conservative activist

Things have been looking up for accused child molester Jeffrey Ray Nielsen, the 36-year-old Christian conservative activist and lawyer with close ties to Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and Scott Baugh, head of the Orange County Republican Party. Police say Nielsen took a 14-year-old Westminster boy as his sex partner in 2003 and maintained a huge cache of man-boy pornography.
But prosecutors have allowed their case against Nielsen, once an intern in the district attorney’s office, to stall for 40 months.

The den of degenerate utter hypocrisy in the beltway is nothing short of sickening… again, wasn’t all this under the Delay watch majority leadership?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 30 2006 23:38 utc | 10

Uncle, check blogactive.com. He’s been working on outing him for a few yrs. The page was also speaking, so it prob. just got too hot to keep under the covers any longer – they protected him as long as they could, since he’d aided & abetted their coup d’etat. I can understand his parents not wanting to bring the wrath of the powerful down on them for many reasons. Takes courage & squeaky clean living. It is frightening that Congress is such a sewer of Depravity & Corruption that they won’t even protect pages. Wasn’t there something a few yrs. ago about a WH intern who was 21…yet when Repugs prey above unwilling male pages who are still children it seems the treatment is a wee bit different!

Posted by: jj | Sep 30 2006 23:50 utc | 11

LET THE CLOSETS FLY OPEN – AND THE BOOKS…but then they’ve already wrecked the country, Iraq, the Constitution…a bit late isn’t it…anyone interested should keep an eye on THE gayguys blog, americablog – john A- is going to be on CNN discussing it. Don’t know why – credit should go to guy @blogactive.

Posted by: jj | Sep 30 2006 23:54 utc | 12

The New Face of Class War
Interested in your take on this, b, as a (former?) IT sytems designer.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Oct 1 2006 0:09 utc | 13

blogactive, good site jj , thanks…
I’m not a big fan of americablog nor Mr. John A, I can’t recall why at the moment, but it was something to do with his hypocrisy of not allowing any critique of the Democrats on his blog much like dkos etc…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 1 2006 0:41 utc | 14

I hope I’m not answering a question that nobody asked, but wasn’t someone here asking about the suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of the conservative Nevada state controller Kathy Augustine?
Some were saying it might have been a hit on a potential liability, while others bemoaned how stressful it is to be a member of the monied elite (garners nearly as much sympathy as “Yeah, well, uh, you wouldn’t want to pay my taxes!”)
Turns out it was a domestic dispute. Let this be a lesson to all you would-be murderers: It’s just dumbassery to critique other people’s crimes with “That’s not how I’d do it!” when you’ve already done it.

Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 1 2006 5:58 utc | 15

The U.S. vs. John Lennon

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 1 2006 9:02 utc | 16

Addendum:
GRUDGE REPORT
Does this movie look good, or what? Just the type of inspiration I and I’m guessing many others are needing right now. I love the quote from Vidal: “Lennon stands for life and Nixon and Bush stand for death.”

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 1 2006 9:06 utc | 17

Hi. I’m pretty new to e-bay – so maybe I don’t know how to do the search thing. What I am after is a camcorder (tape not digital). I want something really cheap with fuzzy pictures – and ‘specially I dont want any sound. Can someone help me out here. I want to film someone’s last will and testament (with no sound haha!).

Posted by: DM | Oct 1 2006 9:31 utc | 18

hahaha…, I’m right there with ya DM, No sound…hahaha…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 1 2006 9:57 utc | 19

While you were looking elsewhere…, While we weren’t watching, While we were all distracted by the evisceration of the Constitition, the death of Habeas Corpus, the legalizing of torture, and the retroactive immunity granted to the torturers by Congress – not to mention an inconvenient sex scandal – they slipped a couple more surprises past us in their haste to adjourn and get back to their real business: raising money for their campaigns.
One of these surprises is HR 6198, which was apparently rushed through by both houses without a roll-call vote, so that we must expect there was little or no real opposition. Bush instantly signed the bill into law.
This odious piece of legislation is called the “Iran Freedom Support Act,”…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 1 2006 10:11 utc | 20

Oil, Lily Pad Bases and Torture

Why is the Bush administration so attached to torturing people that it would pressure a supine Congress into raping the US constitution by explicitly permitting some torture techniques and abolishing habeas corpus for certain categories of prisoners?
Boys and girls, it is because torture is what provides evidence for large important networks of terrorists where there aren’t really any, or aren’t very many, or aren’t enough to justify 800 military bases and a $500 billion military budget.

It’s discovered that the Cheney administration is actually after oil.
Or perhaps what’s really been discovered is that everyone in America has known that it’s been about the oil since day one… and there’s some things you just hafta do.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Oct 1 2006 10:39 utc | 21

“Yeah, well, uh, you wouldn’t want to pay my taxes!”
Actually I would, if I get the rate the Glitter Twins get – 1.6% on approx $164 million

Posted by: gmac | Oct 1 2006 11:51 utc | 22

@gmac (#22)
That’s why I used that particular analogy. There’s no shortage of lies and distortions that are common to the elite’s vernacular… but that one has always stuck in my craw to a particular degree. Rich people get discounts on everything, and that includes taxes.
I just wish I could get called a “philanthropist” by throwing a portion of my corporate pillagings at some charity or other. Create as much misery as you can in a lifetime, then get lauded by doing a bit of what you should have been doing all along. Guh.

Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 1 2006 13:04 utc | 23

john francis lee, thanks for the excellent link

Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 1 2006 14:21 utc | 24

Kurdish rebels declare ceasefire with Turkey this a few days after this: Pipeline blast cuts off Turkey gas flow, 2 Former Empires Rattled by proxies of the Present Empire?
Who knows, however, this stuff is so friggin’ dangerous and complicated, messing around in that region and getting Turkey involved has all kinds of geopolitical implications. I hope the Princeton Project People know what they are doing! Hah Ha. Ha.
Or this is just rogue Kurdish rebels acting completely independently, oblivious of the implications. Surely they know nothing of the Kosovo Albanian example, and they are not aware of the stakes in Lebanon, Iraq or Iran. Surely they would risk these things as a smart means to their independence. (Retired) General Ralston (of NATO/Bosnia/Kosovo fame), the recently appointed US “coordinator” for the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK) issue in Turkey, is probably not in the loop on the art of provocations by separatist minority groups located in extremely volitile and key geostrategic parts of the world.

Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 1 2006 14:28 utc | 25

Frank Rich (liberated text)

The facts of Iraq are not in dispute. But the truth is that facts don’t matter anyway to this administration, and that’s what makes this whole N.I.E. debate beside the point. From the start, honest information has never figured into the prosecution of this war. The White House doesn’t care about intelligence, good or bad, classified or unclassified, because it believes it knows best, regardless of what anyone else has to say. The debate over the latest N.I.E. or any yet to leak will not alter that fundamental and self-destructive operating principle. That’s the truly bad news.

Posted by: b | Oct 1 2006 15:05 utc | 26

@jfl
Since you live in Thailand, do you have a take on this piece on Thai “ghost” guerillas? Robb, its author, is a smart US “security professional” certainly, but on the other hand he is yet another Yankee who is always very far away from the phenomena he writes about, using but one frame of analysis (‘4 G Warfare’).

Posted by: Guthman Bey | Oct 1 2006 15:23 utc | 27

addendum to the Juan Cole link in #21
and its punch line:

Why is the Bush administration so attached to torturing people that it would pressure a supine Congress into raping the US constitution by explicitly permitting some torture techniques and abolishing habeas corpus for certain categories of prisoners?
Boys and girls, it is because torture is what provides evidence for large important networks of terrorists where there aren’t really any, or aren’t very many, or aren’t enough to justify 800 military bases and a $500 billion military budget.

Well, here is who will be waterboarded as soon as a wider circle of suspects is needed: Tony Soprano.

Posted by: Guthman Bey | Oct 1 2006 23:29 utc | 28

Guthman Bey :
I am no authority on the history of southern Thailand, but I do understand that the Thais “took over” there at a time they were also concerned about the English in Malaysia.
Bangkok countered european imperial forces by building a home grown empire centered in Bangkok. The local provincial governments in Thailand are still appointed in Bangkok.
The Thais in the southern provinces have lived life on the plantation, rubber not cotton, grinding down the majority Malay population, for a long time. All the hand wringing about the Southern “problem” in Bangkok is of the “why do they hate us” variety. They are in just as deep denial.
ALL of Thailand would benefit from decentralizing the government. The South most of all. The 1997 constitution was supposed to usher in an era of decentralization. Never happened.
The religious dimension is layered on top of the imperial problem, like the Protestant/Catholic layer of the English/Irish “problem”. The “religious” problem is layered on top of “other” problems globally, in my opinion.
Thaksin, who was in government only to enrich himself and his family, was frustrated by anything that interrupted his looting, that is that required actually governing. His solution to any conflict was always “off with their heads”.
General Sonthi, the main man in the junta, is Muslim. Perhaps he will be more sympathetic to the plight of the southerners? But who can expect a dictatorship to foster decentralization.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Oct 2 2006 2:10 utc | 29

“Remember the Eisenhower!”

A “strike group” led by the nuclear aircraft carrier Eisenhower is heading to the Persian Gulf today. Many observers presume that Bush plans to hit Iran. I think the strategy could be more devious.
As noted in earlier posts, the Iranians possess a new class of cruise missiles which can easily destroy any ship in the Gulf. I believe that the neocons are placing the Eisnhower in harm’s way precisely because they know that sunken ships justify wars. Any number of covert tactics (faked signals intelligence, bogus information fed to Iranian agents) could lead the Iranians to believe that they are under attack and must hit first or be hit.
Would the necons sacrifice an aircraft carrier to get their war? In my opinion, yes.
Not only will that oil-rich nation be reduced to nuclear rubble, neocon ideology will experience a resurgence within the U.S. — where the law now allows Bush to kidnap and torture all progressive activists and writers. Alas, the distraction of the pageboy scandal will keep most progressives from seeing the real danger.
The strike group includes a submarine, probably equipped with nuclear missiles, which will handle the response after the Eisenhower goes down. That’s an apt name for the sacrificial ship: The general who led our crusade against Hitler represented a form of responsible Republicanism which the neocons have murdered.
If this prediction proves wrong — well, thank god. That’ll be the most satsifying plate of crow anyone ever ate.

I’d check out the coments there too…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 2 2006 2:53 utc | 30

Uncle,
Why would the Iranians do a thing like that? Are they supposed to be like Warren Oates in a Peckinpah movie? Savages foaming at the mouth who just have to use that new killer toy of theirs? (Between intermittent prayers, bien entendu…).
I checked out the comments about option interest and a cursory glance reveals nothing hugely abnormal. The index vehicles cited in the comment are all relatively illiquid and put/call ratios in those tend to gyrate wildly. I also don’t see why nefarious insiders would chose these illiquid vehicles where their positions would figure prominently in the open interest, rather than use the liquid OEX where all would be hidden under large numbers. OEX option put/call ratios are perfectly normal btw.
I doubt there is anything to this other than perhaps another impotent militaristic gesture by the Bush administration. Besides, maybe the world will end on Tuesday, in which case we will never know what would have happened on Friday.

Posted by: Guthman Bey | Oct 2 2006 3:30 utc | 31

Very interesting JFL. Thanks.

Posted by: Guthman Bey | Oct 2 2006 3:33 utc | 32

For those whom have never seen it…
Watch on Google Video: Stanford Prison Experiment
Haney, Craig., Banks, Curtis., & Zimbardo, Philip. (1973)
A Study of Prisoners and Guards in a Simulated Prison.

This study was funded by the US Navy, as it and the US Marine Corps were interested in finding out the causes of conflict between guards and prisoners in the naval prisons. Attempts to explain the violent and brutal conditions often found in prisons had previously used dispositional attribution. That is, that the state of the prison is due to the nature of the prison guards and the prisoners.
For example, it had been argued that prison guards bring to their jobs a particular ‘guard mentality’ and are therefore attracted to the job as they are already sadistic and insensitive people. Whereas prisoners are individuals who have no respect for law and order and bring this aggressiveness and impulsivity to the prison.
Philip Zimbardo was interested in testing this dispositional hypothesis by demonstrating that the conditions of the prisons were not a result of the type of individuals working and incarcerated in the prisons and hoped to go on to help the Navy develop training, which would eliminate the deplorable conditions in the prisons.
Zimbardo believed that the behaviour in prisons could be best explained using a situational attribution. In particular he believed that the condition were influenced by the social roles that prisoners and prisoner guards are expected to play. Shakespeare put this quite well when he wrote ‘All the world’s a stage, and all the men and women players’ (As You Like It). Suggesting that we are what we play.
We all play many roles in society and these social roles do to some extent shape our identity. Each role we play brings with it certain rules or expectations about how we should behave. For example when we play the role of a students there may be very different expectations about how we should behave compared with say the role of an audience member at the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Similarly there may be certain expectations about the role a prisoner or prison guard should play.
Aim
The aim of the study was to investigate the effects of being assigned to the role of either a prison guard or prisoner.
Procedure/Method
The study is usually described as an experiment with the independent variable being the conditions the participants are randomly allocated to. Either prisoner or guard. The dependent variable is the resulting behaviour.
The study can also be described as a simulation as it was attempting to create a prison like environment.
Data collected were combinations of both quantitative and qualitative data. The main data though was qualitative and was obtained using video, audiotape and direct observation.
The participants were respondents to a newspaper advertisement, which asked for male volunteers to participate in a psychological study of ‘prison life’ in return for payment of $15 per day.
The 75 respondents completed a questionnaire about their family background, physical and mental health, prior experiences and attitudinal tendencies with respect to psychopathology and any involvement in crime.
Based on the results of the tests 24 men were selected. These 24 were judged to be the most physically and mentally stable, most mature, and least involved in antisocial behaviours. The participants were described as “normal, healthy male college students who were predominantly middle class and white.” The 24 participants did not know each other prior to the study.
A simulated prison was built in the basement of the psychology building at Stanford University. The simulated prison comprised of:
– Three small cells (each 6 x 9 ft) with three prisoners to a cell. The cells contained three cots (with mattress, sheet and pillow) for each prisoner.
– A ‘solitary confinement’. Which was an extremely small, unlit room (2 x 2 x 7 ft). This room was across from the cells.
– Several rooms in an adjacent wing of the building were used as guards’ quarters (to change in and out of uniform and for relaxation), interview rooms and a bedroom for the ‘warden’ and ‘superintendent’ (Zimbardo).
– A small, enclosed room, which was used as a ‘prison yard’.
– Video recording equipment was placed behind an observation screen
For the duration of the study the prisoners remained in the mock prison for 24 hours. Three were arbitrarily assigned to each of the three cells, and the others were on stand-by at their homes. The guards worked on three-man eight-hour shifts, and went home after their shifts.
The participants all agreed voluntarily to play the role for $15 a day for up to two weeks. The participants signed a contract guaranteeing basic living needs, such as an adequate diet and medical care. Although it was made explicit in the contract that if they were to be assigned to the role of prisoner they would have to have some basic civil rights (e.g. privacy) suspended. The participants were not given any information about what to expect and how to behave.
The 24 participants were randomly assigned to the role of ‘prisoner’ or ‘guard’ and informed by telephone to be available at their homes on a particular Sunday when the experiment would begin.
Those participants allocated the role of guards had to attend an orientation meeting the day before the induction of the prisoners. They met the principal investigators, the ‘superintendent’ of the prison (Zimbardo) and the ‘warden’ (undergraduate research assistant). They were told that the ‘experimenters wanted to try to simulate a prison environment within the limits imposed by pragmatic and ethical considerations’. Their assigned task as prison guards was to ‘maintain the reasonable degree of order within the prison necessary for effective functioning’.
The guards were instructed in their administrative details, including; the work-shifts, the completion of ‘critical incident’ reports, and the managing of meals, work and recreation programmes for the prisoners. In order to start involving the guards in their roles even before the prisoners were incarcerated, they assisted in the final phases of completing the prison complex – putting the cots in the cells, moving furniture and so on. However the guards were not told how to behave apart from being explicitly told that they were not allowed to use physical punishment or physical aggression.
The guards believed that the experimenters were mainly interested in studying the behaviour of the prisoners although the experimenters were just as interested in their behaviour.
The uniforms of both prisoners and guards were intended to increase group identity and reduce individuality within the two groups.
The guards’ uniform consisted of a plain khaki shirt and trousers, a whistle, a police night stick (a wooden batten) and reflecting sunglasses, which made eye contact impossible. The guards’ uniforms were intended to convey a military attitude, while the baton and whistle were symbols of control and power.
The prisoners’ uniform consisted of a loose-fitting muslin smock with an identification number on the front and back, no underwear, rubber sandals, a hat made from a nylon stocking and they had a light chain and lock around their ankle. Each prisoner was also issued with a toothbrush, soap, soap-dish, towel and bed linen. No personal belongings were allowed in the cell. The prisoners’ uniforms were designed to de-individuate the prisoners and to be humiliating and serve as symbols of subservience and dependence. The ankle chain was a constant reminder of the oppressiveness of the environment. The stocking cap removed any distinctiveness associated with hair length, colour and style (as does shaving of heads in some ‘real’ prisons). The ill-fitting uniforms made the prisoners feel awkward in their movements; since these ‘dresses’ were worn without underwear, the prisoners were forced to assume unfamiliar postures, more like those of a woman than a man – another part of the emasculating process.
The prisoner participants were unexpectedly ‘arrested at their homes with the cooperation of the local police department. A police officer then charged them with suspicion of burglary or armed robbery, advised them of their rights, handcuffed them, thoroughly searched them (often in full view of their neighbours and passers by) and drove them in the back of a police car to the police station.
At the police station they had their fingerprints and photograph taken and were put in a detention cell. Each prisoner was then blindfolded and driven to the mock prison by one of the experimenters and a guard. Throughout this arrest procedure, the police officers involved maintained a formal, serious attitude, and did not tell the participants that this had anything to do with the mock prison study.
At the mock prison, each prisoner was stripped, sprayed with a delousing preparation (a deodorant spray) and made to stand alone and naked in the ‘yard’. After being given their uniform and having a mug shot (ID picture) taken, the prisoner was put in his cell and ordered to remain silent.
The warden read them the rules of the institution (developed by the guards and the warden), which were to be memorised and had to be followed. Prisoners were to be referred to only by the number on their uniforms, also in an effort to depersonalise them.
Every day the participants were allowed three bland meals, three supervised toilet visits, and given two hours for the privilege of reading or letter writing. Work assignments had to be carried out and two visiting periods per week were scheduled, as were movie rights and exercise periods.
Three times a day prisoners were lined up for a ‘count’ (one on each guard work-shift). The original purpose of the ‘count’ was to establish that all prisoners were present, and to test them on the knowledge of the rules and their ID numbers. The first ‘counts’ lasted only about ten minutes but as conditions in the prison deteriorated, they increased in length until some lasted for several hours.
Results/Findings
In summary the study showed that the behaviour of the ‘normal’ students who had been randomly allocated to each condition, was affected by the role they had been assigned, to the extent that they seemed to believe in their allocated positions. The study therefore rejects the dispositional hypothesis.
The experiment had to be stopped after just six days instead of the planned 14 days, mainly because of the pathological reactions of the participants. Five prisoners had to be released even earlier because of extreme emotional depression.
In general, the guards and prisoners showed a marked tendency towards increasingly negative emotions, and their overall outlook became increasingly negative. Despite the fact that guards and prisoners were essentially free to engage in any form of interaction, the nature of their encounters tended to be negative, hostile, insulting and dehumanising. The prison was internalised by both the prisoners and the guards, that is, they started to believe in it. They adopted very contrasting behaviours, which were appropriate for their respective roles. The guards started most of the interactions, most of which were in the form of commands or verbal affronts, while the prisoners adopted a generally passive response mode. Although it was clear to all participants that the experimenters would not permit physical violence to take place, varieties of less direct aggressive behaviour were often observed.
One of the most dramatic evidence of the impact of this situation upon the participants was when five prisoners had to be released early due to extreme emotional depression, crying, rage and acute anxiety. Of the remaining prisoners, only two said they were not willing to forfeit the money they had earned in return for being ‘paroled’. When the simulation was terminated after only six days instead of the projected fourteen days all of the remaining prisoners were delighted by the news, but most of the guards seemed to be distressed by the premature end to the study – it appeared that they had become sufficiently involved in their role that they now enjoyed the extreme control and power which they exercised. This is referred to by Zimbardo as pathology of power.
However there were individual differences in styles of coping with this novel experience. Half of the prisoners endured the oppressive atmosphere, and not all the guards resorted to hostility, some guards were tough but fair, while some went far beyond their roles to engage in creative cruelty and harassment.
Explanation
Zimbardo believes that the study demonstrate the powerful effect roles can have on peoples’ behaviour. Basically the participants were playing the role that they thought was expected of, either a prisoner or prison guard. (It is in fact a simulation of what we expect prison life to be, rather than what it is, as none of the participants had previously been in prison as a guard or prisoner).
Zimbardo then went on to explain the prison guards’ behaviour and the prisoners’ behaviour
Zimbardo explains that the reason for the deterioration in guard behaviour was power. The guards were given control over the lives of other human beings and did not have to justify their displays of power as they would normally have to in their daily lives. They started to enjoy this power very earlier on in the study (pathology of power) as demonstrated that even after the first day all prisoner rights became redefined as privileges, and all privileges were cancelled.
Zimbardo explains the social deterioration of the prisoners as the pathological prisoner syndrome. At the beginning of the study, the prisoners rebelled against their conditions, but the guards undermined every attempt at rebellion, and any solidarity between the prisoners collapsed. Half of the prisoners responded by becoming sick, and eventually had to be released before the study was finally brought to a conclusion. The remaining prisoners became passive, dependent and had flattened emotions. Zimbardo suggested that there were a number of processes that contributed to the pathological prisoner syndrome:
– The loss of personal identity – the prisoners were de-individuated by being stripped of their individuality, their name, dress, appearance, behaviour style, and history. Living among strangers who do not know your name or history, dressed like all the other prisoners, all led to the weakening of self-identity among the prisoners. The prisoners became de-individuated not only to the guards, but to themselves;
– The arbitrary control exercised by the guards – on post-experimental questionnaires, the prisoners said they disliked the way that the way they were subjected to the arbitrary and changeable decisions and rules of the guards as this made life unpredictable and unfair. For example, smiling at a joke could be punished in the same way that failing to smile might be. As the environment became more unpredictable, the prisoners’ behaviour showed signs of learned helplessness, that is, as the prisoners’ previously learned assumptions about a just and orderly world were no longer functional, they ceased to initiate any action;
– Dependency and emasculation – the prisoners were made to be totally dependent on the guards for commonplace functions such as going to the toilet, reading, lighting a cigarette and this emasculated them. The smocks, worn without underwear, lessened their sense of masculinity. This was taken to the extent that when the prisoners were debriefed they suggested that they had been assigned to be prisoners because they were smaller than the guards. In fact there was no difference in average height between the prisoners and guards, and the perceived difference was a response to the prisoners’ perception of themselves and their lack of power.
Evaluation of Procedure/Method
Weaknesses
The main criticism of Zimbardo’s study is on ethical grounds.
However Zimbardo does defends the experiment in a number of ways:
– The only deception involved was to do with the arrest of the prisoners at the beginning of the experiment. The prisoners were not told partly because final approval from the police wasn’t given until minutes before the participants decided to participate, and partly because the researchers wanted the arrests to come as a surprise. However this was a breach of the ethics of Zimbardo’s own contract that all of the participants had signed.
– When Zimbardo realised just how much the prisoners disliked the experience, which was unexpected, the experiment was abandoned.
– Approval for the study was given from the Office of Naval Research, the Psychology Department and the University Committee of Human Experimentation. This Committee also did not anticipate the prisoners extreme reactions that were to follow.
– Alternative methodologies were looked at which would cause less distress to the participants but at the same time give the desired information, but nothing suitable could be found.
– Extensive group and individual debriefing sessions were held and all participants returned post-experimental questionnaires several weeks, then several months later, then at yearly intervals
– Zimbardo also strongly argues that the benefits gained about our understanding of human behaviour and how we can improve society should out balance the distress caused by the study. However it has been suggested that the US Navy was not so much interested in making prisons more human and were in fact more interested in using the study to train people in the armed services to cope with the stresses of captivity.
The study can also be criticised for its unrepresentative sample. Since the experiment was conducted using 24 normal, healthy, male college students who were predominantly middle class and white (one was described as oriental), we have to be careful generalising the results to other people.
Importantly the study has been criticised for lacking ecological validity. For practical and ethical reasons the simulated prison could not be totally realistic. Many particularly unpleasant aspects of prison life were absent, such as involuntary homosexuality, racism, beatings and threats to life. Also, the maximum anticipated sentence was just two weeks. It is therefore possible that the study does not serve as a meaningful comparison to real prison environments. However, there is considerable evidence that the participants did react to the situation as though it was real. For example 90% of the prisoners’ private conversations, which were monitored by the researchers, were on the prison conditions, and only 10% of the time were their conversations about life outside of the prison. The guards, too, rarely exchanged personal information during their relaxation breaks – they either talked about ‘problem prisoners’, other prison topics, or did not talk at all. The guards were always on time and even worked overtime for no extra pay. When the prisoners were introduced to a priest, they referred to themselves by their prison number, rather than their first name. Some even asked him to get a lawyer to help get them out.
Strengths
A main strength of the study was the way it managed to maintain some degree of control and some ecological validity. The situation was very tightly controlled e.g. guards and prisoners were randomly allocated and were selected using a stringent criterion. The study still had ecological validity in the way that Zimbardo went to great extremes in making the study as true to life as possible, for example in the way that he had the prisoners arrested from their homes.
A further strength was in the way that Zimbardo collected data. He used a number of qualitative approaches such as observation (sometimes overt and sometimes covert) interviews and questionnaires.
Evaluation of Explanation
Zimbardo’s study was clearly trying to give a situational explanation for behaviour. He argued that the study demonstrates the powerful effect roles can have on peoples’ behaviour.
However some psychologists believe that he has over emphasised the situational explanation. They state that the behaviour of both prisoners and guards may have arisen from the stereotyped expectations of how prisoners and guards should behave. That is, the participants were only role-playing. However, Zimbardo would strongly suggest that the participants’ experiences were all too real and that even if they were only role-playing at the beginning of the study, as the study progressed they were internalising these roles and they could no longer differentiate between role-playing and self.
It is also worth noting that Zimbardo’s argument can be seen as too deterministic. For example in Zimbardo’s study not all of the participants behaved in the same way. For example, some of the guards were less willing to abuse their power. Perhaps the reason why some of the participants were less willing was something to do with their personalities.
Reference
Haney, C., Banks, W.C. & Zimbardo, P.G. (1973) A study of prisoners and guards in a simulated prison. Naval Research Review, 30, 4-17.
Bibliography
GROSS, R. (1999) Key Studies in Psychology, 3rd Edition. London: Hodder and Stoughton
BANYARD, P. AND GRAYSON, A. (2000) Introducing Psychological Research; Seventy Studies that Shape Psychology, 2nd Edition. London: Macmillan

From:holah.co.uk
Resources
* Wikipedia Entry
*Official Site
*Slate.com: Situationist Ethics: The Stanford Prison Experiment doesn’t explain Abu Ghraib
*Fromm’s criticism of the experiment
*The Lie of the Stanford Prison Experiment Criticism from Carlo Prescott, ex-con and consultant/assistant for the experiment

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 2 2006 5:02 utc | 33

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Democrats For Torture!

Welcome to the Democrats For Torture website! Here you’ll find lots of information about why we voted to Give The President The Tools He Needs™* and why torture isn’t just for Republicans anymore.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 2 2006 6:29 utc | 34

It seems that somebody big, and may be government-size big put out Chichakli to be eaten alive for another purpose. The United Nations Security Council had 5-resolutions issued against Chichakli, with one against Bout?
It is a matter of records that Chichakli received more attention from the US government than what Bin Laden did! Is it possible that Chichakli’s claims of “political persecution” by the Bush administration correct? Search the internet and you’ll see more official government web sites talking of sanctions against Chichakli than anyone else on the internet? What is going on? What is the story here?
Richard Chichakli was sanctioned according to OFAC words because he had relations to Victor Bout, who supposedly had relations to Charles Taylor. However, Chichakli is who is been talked about rather than Bout or Taylor himself? It is very strange when you find Chichakli’s name to be put out as part of the timeline showing the history and creation of the United Nations! This is truly unbelievable, check it out at: http://timelines.ws/countries/UN.HTML
On the other hand, why the US government did not press charges against Chichakli since they are completely sure about his guilt? 18 month is a very long time to “just investigate” as he said on his web site showing a copy of the final determination letter served to him by the US Treasury?
There are plenty that does not seem right here, and I do think that whatever Chichakl’s story might be, it sure deserve another examination. Richard, stay alive and you’ll be exonerated. You’ve got my support.

Posted by: Walter W | Oct 12 2006 18:13 utc | 35

Chichakli has been RENDERED to Syria

For those following the Bout-Chichakli story, the saga continues with information provides that Richard Chichakli was placed on a U.S. government rendition flight heading to Syria mid July/2006 where he was picked up on arrival by the Syrian intelligence and was sent to detention in an unknown place for about two months.
The source confirmed that Chichakli’s resident permit in Russia was revoked at the request of the White House prior to his expulsion to Syria rather than the United States.
A similar case involving a Canadian by the name of Maher Arar who was rendered to Syria instead of Canada was recently surfaced in the media after Arar filed a suit against the U.S. Government.

Posted by: Cargo KIng | Oct 20 2006 16:11 utc | 36