History rewritten While-U-WaiT
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and thirteen other ‘disappeared’ alleged enemies of the Global War on Terror have been dragged out of anonymous limbo of Poland and Bagram into the celebrity limbo of Guantanamo Bay.
Within weeks it will be as though rendition never happened, much less is still happening now and as the national amnesia of “bad stuff” re-asserts, pieces of interogation conducted under torture will be leaked to the NYT and other obliging media outlets.
The baying for the blood of those liberal reformist judges on the supreme court who are stopping this evidence from being presented at trial will have reached a crescendo. Then enabling legislation for ‘trials’ called justice boards or some such will be enacted, and amerikans will be able to ‘prove to any terrorist sympathizer’ that all of the procedures used post 9/11 are essential weapons against global terror.
The first piece of revisionism has already been released.
It seems there may be a genuine possibility the Bliar may lose his gig before Iran gets it’s just desserts, which will ‘complicate or untidy’ the situation.
Therefore another attempt to crank up the fear has been pumped out.
The attack on Iran can’t come before next spring now and the Bliar will be long gone. The only suitable slave of Israel and pet of amerika is not close to the PM’s job and probably couldn’t be by then.
So let’s try and scare the shit outta the limeys! This attempt will be unsuccessful but only because the Rove gang have never been able to gain insight into any psyche untainted by amerikan exceptionalism.
However the Bliar and his collection of former tablod editors and Murdoch arse lickers do have that insight so doubt they will construct a more palatable set of lies.
Not that it matters to anyone who hasn’t got some action on the outcome, but I can see a big GOP victory this November.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 7 2006 1:40 utc | 4

I can see a big GOP victory this November.
it just doesn’t matter, does it?

Posted by: slothrop | Sep 7 2006 2:21 utc | 6

This is an excellent action diary on dkos and this one shows the effect the outcry is having on ABC and this one the effect on Scholastic. We may not able to stop this – who knows maybe we will – but people’s voices are being heard.

Posted by: conchita | Sep 7 2006 2:44 utc | 8

b real, wish i could feel your optimism. but i don’t know that i can give people that much credit. had a discussion with someone this week who claims to be a “liberal” who looked at me like i was insane when i said i questioned the official story. she told me i was reading “dangerous websites”. not so sure the sheeple are ready to take off their blinders.

Posted by: conchita | Sep 7 2006 3:09 utc | 10

if people are still watching the tube, it’s a tough call to give them a whole lot of credit anyway. not to be cynical – in that there is no solution – but people who are still allowing themselves to be spoonfed such blatant propaganda are not going to much help in steering this nation away from the precipice. there will likely never be a true consensus in anything in this multi-faceted nation. at some point, enough critical mass will have to recognized as suitable to act on this tension between reality & lies, reckless, accountable leadership endangering our very survival, when we can jettison the excuse of waiting for more of the slumbering herd to suddenly awaken & magically be ready to act. i read some of the comments at one of the blogs and obviously there are plenty of people who still believe that a major network has an obligation to present the truth to people, or that disney should deliver objective products to kids. (or that the public still owns the “airwaves.”) i can certainly understand that people operate at different levels of perception/cognition/rewards. a hot-button topic like this fictional movie may inspire more critical thinking in those ready for it. and it may disgust more people enough to kill their television for good.

Posted by: b real | Sep 7 2006 3:45 utc | 12

the Rove gang have never been able to gain insight into any psyche untainted by amerikan exceptionalism
Debs–This is a gem. It has been noted by many that American propaganda has absolutely quit playing in other lands, at the same time it has become more popular than ever at home. I am refering to the last two to three years generally. Nor has it quit working in the present, despite continual revision of aspirations for Iraq, and despite such national disasters as the destruction of New Orleans by preventable flooding.
But why? And why do such clumsy and childish lies work so well on putative adults. I think you have found the key.
Enough said, in a way. The character defects implied don’t need to be spelled out here. But the other point is that the Rove gang are like popular novelists–just smart enough to turn out enticing trash for their readers, but not smart enough to realize how ridiculous it really is. Which is why they cannot re-adjust their thoughts enough to interact with (or con) non-Americans.
A good con artist half-believes his own lies. But only half. Slip into 75% belief and you are in trouble. Not with your marks–who remain as well-conned as ever, but with reality, which will hit you from behind. And that is what they have done.
But the heart of the con is “(you are not the sinking surplus population of a rapidly waning great power,) you are God’s own special darlings of all the world’s people, whose most transient whims are His gravest concern.”
What kind of people want to hear that? Answers itself, sadly.

Posted by: Gaianne | Sep 7 2006 3:55 utc | 14

edit to #15: gain *of* one party at the expense of the other.

Posted by: Bea | Sep 7 2006 4:00 utc | 16

Bea,
Attempts to be glib aside, I understand what you’re saying, but I only recognize one political party that matters – the Americanist party. Should we really be spending so much time defending Clinton? And note that the lefty blogosphere is spending so much time whining about this that they’re mostly ignoring this bombshell.
Yeah, I know that making Clinton look good is how these guys cut their political teeth, but…the Iraq War was already being planned. 9/11 didn’t even matter!

Posted by: Rowan | Sep 7 2006 4:18 utc | 18

I’m w/ b real’s #12
idiot nation as long as the masses feed on the tube..

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 7 2006 4:52 utc | 20

@ b real
For some reason your # 17 reminded me of this,
and not because of the Mickey Mouse reference…
Also, @ CluelessJoe, did you happen to catch me my post on Why Cynthia McKinney had to lose… by any chance?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 7 2006 9:28 utc | 22

@Rowan
As for your astonishment that the Iraq war was already being planned pre-9/11, I find it astonishing in and of itself, since it does not surprise me in the least. Iraq, and perhaps Iran, was the target from the get-go. Any person familiar with Middle East regional politics knows that. “Securing the Realm” and all that… is this the first time you hear of this? And I don’t believe it was some puerile “I’m better than Daddy” fantasy but rather geostrategic politics (in the minds of the neocons) that motivated this drive. Oil, oil and oil…. and Israel.

Posted by: Bea | Sep 7 2006 13:09 utc | 24

Sorry that link didn’t quite work out. Here it is again:
Strategic Ellipse Map, Take Two
Scroll down on the site until you get to the 9/6 post with the map.

Posted by: Bea | Sep 7 2006 13:27 utc | 26

i agree that we shouldn’t tolerate being lied to in any form & that is something we should always fight against. but it’s a very irrational proposition, from the POV of the dem reaction to the project, that we’re supposed to be upset about abc/disney “rewriting” the history of sept 11th b/c it doesn’t fit w/ the first rewriting that the faux commission delivered. theirs is a smaller battle (of distraction) that ultimately works against the public’s benefit. polls already show that the majority of the public does not trust the congress, the president, or the govt. and, as i already mentioned, polls already indicate that the public is skeptical w/ the official 911 story. so we should not align w/ the partisan interests in this instance out of the belief that the public is so ignorant that they will not see this movie for anything other than the election propaganda/further revisionism that it may be.

Posted by: b real | Sep 7 2006 14:34 utc | 28

not to see the centrality of the conflict gets it all wrong.
during a preparation for a conference w/progressives and senator cantwell regarding iraq war/ ME foriegn policy i suggested focusing on the is/pal conflict and her constant unwavering israel support. this was a couple years ago, i was ignored and brushed aside. it’s never going away no matter how much they shove it under the rug. they know it, we know it, the world knows it.

Terrorism is not simply a result of Israeli-Palestinian issues. Al-Qaida plotting for the September 11 attacks began in the 1990s, during an active period in the peace process.

this is just a sorry attempt to waterdown the hideous reality of palestine while propping up AQ terra. if anything positive has come out of the horror of the attack on lebanon it is the attention on gaza.
bea 23 If we cannot create narratives that accurately depict one of the greatest national tragedies that has ever befallen us
as b real pointed out the first rewriting was the faux commission. after getting the public to swallow the big lie now they are coming in for the kill trying to lay lie#1 (la grande) all on a dem perfectly timed for the election. the thing about a movie is it hangs around long after the dust settles and future generations swallow it up unless they take the time to learn history.
Sorry but as disillusioned and disgusted as I am with my country and all who are presently running it, I still care about it.
i’m with you, me too, still hangin w/hope for integrity and a new independant 9/11 investigative commission.

Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2006 17:00 utc | 30

Updated action diary on dkos for those who are interested in getting involved in stopping ABC and Scholastic. It seems as if the traditional media has caught on and the letters, calls, and emails are having an effect. FWIW Clinton has also sent a 4-page letter to ABC demanding that the show be pulled unless substantial changes are made. The momentum is growing and even the dems are showing signs of life.

Posted by: conchita | Sep 7 2006 17:51 utc | 32

i’m totally w/you on that last paragraph bea.
good news conchita, i emailed a bunch of the lot and told them i reprogramed abc off my remote, not that i watch enough tv to make a dent.

Posted by: annie | Sep 7 2006 18:26 utc | 34

Good points, Uncle. Take my link or the ones from dkos and send them to everyone in your address book. Make them think about something else if this travesty takes place.

Posted by: beq | Sep 7 2006 18:57 utc | 36

“Online study guide” for that tripe? Guess it really is the Three ‘R’s of public schooling-
Recruiting, Recruiting, and Recruiting…
Most American high school students weren’t even teenagers when the 9/11 attacks occured.
Scholastic is still making the sheets available online, but appears to have removed external links to the documents. A spokeswoman for the company said Scholastic had no comment on the matter at present. “critical thinking questions”? hahaha….
Reminded me of “Train up a child Inc. “

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 7 2006 19:27 utc | 38

Was’nt Disney the original owner (distributer?) of Moores f911? And that they punted it when the controversy started. They could fold on this too, if it got hot enough.

Posted by: anna missed | Sep 7 2006 19:34 utc | 40

debs, i wish i could share your perspective from outside looking in, but as someone who lives in the u.s. and is witnessing the theft of our resources, our civil rights, our quality of life, this is another nail in the coffin. you are more of a gambler than i when you are willing to trust “the strongest possibility is that this movie will be so incredibly false and that it will have been made by incompetents which will eventually persuade most amerikans that all of the pricks have been lying to them”. i have less confidence in my fellow citizens. i know that if i could see into the apartments in my building each night i would find people sitting brain dead, mesmerized by their televisions. i seriously doubt whether they will question. no, i think if we do not fight this and do not make this fight as visible as possible, the lemmings will follow rove et al off the cliff. it is not about the dems and clinton, it is about reclaiming our airwaves, about not allowing a blatantly false rewriting of history. when you look at the statistics regarding how many people still believe iraq had a hand in 911, that should tell you how likely the average american is to question this propaganda tool. and it combined with the assault on our civil rights, our privacy, the move to assume control of the national guard, to privatize the highways in the u.s., to declare martial law in the case of another 911, etc., and etc. all of this, no, i can’t just sit back and watch it happen and hope your prediction that “letting Clinton and Co get theirs just makes the day when the rethugs cop their come-uppance more certain and a whole lot closer”.

Posted by: conchita | Sep 7 2006 21:46 utc | 42

conchita
I understand your concerns completely but I also understand that at some point ‘people just have to let go’.
I am suggesting US inhabitants take a gamble, but I really can’t see that what they would end up with could be any worse than what they have now.
Of course what I am saying would have more power if it came from within the body of people effected by it, but that issue also goes back to the minutae thing where everyone is so caught up in the sub-plots of the terra-state that amerika has become they find it really hard to see the complete vista.
What more that bushCo do to arabs, and whether they expand that criminality to persians, is entirely dependant upon factors operating outside the US.
Similarly a dem ‘win’ in november will change the shape of the New Orleans reconstruction in that the programs will be expanded and and go to other contractors but getting a bit real here, it really is stretching credulity to imagine that these alterations will make more than a superficial impact to the ordinary people of N.O. Sure those caught up in the La dem machine will get a bit more sugar in their coffee but I’d reckon they were probably drinkin it pretty sweet under the BushCo ethnic cleansing by gentrification, which is why they have been fairly quiet about the fate of people who have been trapped in poverty in louisiana since their forbears were abducted from Africa a few centuries back. While the dems ruled the roost.
but back to your point conchita, I didn’t mean to denigrate those who find turning their back on quislings and opportunists too uncertain, nearly as much as I wanted to point out that letting the dems stew in their shit probably has a lot more upside than people have been led to believe.
The quality of BushCo TV propaganda in fact and fiction (that is on News and current affairs, ‘fact’ LOL, and as sub-text in TV drama ‘fiction’) has slipped a lot in the past couple of years. This is a topic worth more than a off-the-cuff remark and when I have time I will try and explain how that seems very apparent from the outside looking in.
I am certain that this Walt Disney movie will become a piece of history, but not in the way that many fear. It will become the ‘high tide mark’ the point where the neo-con greed, mendacity and fear so overcame their ability to understand what they had been doing objectively, that they finally succeeded in destroying fear as a weapon of domestic compliance.
If people in the US who care about their fellow citizens wait until the mass media stop pumping out their poison before they take a chance, then they will never take that chance because most people (anywhere in the world not just the US) will always turn to the security of consistency that the mass media provides more often as things become less certain.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 8 2006 0:43 utc | 44

@Did – this reminded me of something from Stratfor about a week ago, saying that Putin has Democrat envy…

The deputy head of the Russian administration, Vladislav Surkov — who serves as a designated mouthpiece for the policies of President Vladimir Putin — has begun advocating the creation of a heftier opposition to the ruling United Russia party…
The new party would serve the function of a loyal opposition to United Russia, whose sole purpose is to support Putin’s agenda. The opposition would be weak and malleable, and present only a modicum of choice to Russian voters. However, the Kremlin does plan for the opposition to have an ideology. This would in itself provide an alternative to United Russia, which lacks any ideology other than implementing Putin’s will. If public sentiment ever sways toward the need to have an ideologically based party, a ready-made alternative will be available that will still keep the legislative process under the Kremlin’s control…
So why form an opposition party, even a loyal one, if victory is guaranteed? The answer is that Russia is trying very hard to present itself as a democracy…
In the almost seven years of his administration, Putin has shaped Russia not only to conform to his will, but also to believe that his way is the best way. Control of the media and the “rules of the game” of politics have put him in a good position to perpetuate his influence while retaining the support of the populace. The new opposition will likely provide a (relatively) safe avenue for disagreeing with the administration, but will not really change the Russian political landscape.

I had to laugh. You couldn’t have described the Democrats’ role in the US political process better if you’d tried.

Posted by: PeeDee | Sep 8 2006 9:02 utc | 46

Debs wrote: it’s amazingly bleeding obvious to even a casual observer of the ‘merkian political process that nothing is going to change until the the big 2 are rendered powerless, what the fuck does it matter if the dems get smashed before the rethugs?
Not at all, but it keeps people busy.
without the dems ‘things will be even worse’ but in fact the opposite is true.
Besides the fact that rooting for least bad option is pathetic and an admission of failure, the Dems are more dangerous than the Repubs. More dangerous for the world (US foreign policy, which will be spun differently but will be even more murderous, partly hidden under the radar), more dangerous for Americans as the cosmetic splashes will fool some middle class whites for a year (adjustments to medicare, taxes, etc.) and will keep them quiet, not that when they felt they had to protest they did anything at all…
Martial law and more crackdowns are far more likely under Dems that Reps….
Europeans will feel that the Bush page has been turned and now they can settle down to business as usual, deal with people who are civilized and don’t wear codpieces and cowboy hats and glory! speak French (Kerry), and so get on with, for example, killing off the rest of the Congolese to lock its resources in forever. The right (repubs.) in link with oil-energy geo-political grand game want to kill Ayrabs, those people who are less white than Jews..but not the Saudis or the Jordanians… but the Democrats will kill anyone at all, and smother them in BS besides. And the more than 50% of people who support them (rigged elections don’t show the true numbers) will cheer right to their own deaths.
BushCo had a hard time making Bush appear as the White Savior, they had to fool the Kristian Kooks to manage that, show Bush with a Halo, speak out against abortion, go into unnatural contortions to keep votes and provide a public rationale for why they won, and won again – heh salt of the earth farmers against metrosexuals, get over it already. You lose!
US expansionism or war mongering is inevitable. No political party can step back from that. The Dems will be ruthless in their own way, more fascist lite. Inevitable because the US economic-capitalist system can only survive by dominating and growing. Which has lead into the age-old investment in arms, to impose, in this case, a Mafia-like economic system, at home and abroad.

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 9 2006 18:03 utc | 48