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August 16, 2006
WB: Home is Where the Sink Hole Is

Billmon:

But what makes things different — and potentially more exciting — this time around are the gaudy new financing gimmicks Kevin mentions: no money down loans, interest-only mortgages, ARMs that reset to truly usurious rates, etc. If and when these loans blow up, which they will, they could leave many home "owners" with no alternative but to sell and sell quickly — or simply mail the keys back to the bank.

Home is Where the Sink Hole Is

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As a renter in the California market who would LOVE to buy, I’m cheering all the way for news like this. I’ve been carefully hoarding my pennies for a couple of years waiting for a big stinky crash. I hope Chairman Ben raises rates a couple of more times before this is all over and I can end up with what I really want– a nice house in Berkeley for a price my frugal mid-western upbringing is willing to pay.
Keep up the good work!

Posted by: Elizabeth | Aug 16 2006 19:56 utc | 1

there’s a terrific site documenting from local reports the growing market meltdown; plenty of anecdotal accounts of the horrors to come — and i don’t think i’m overstating it. the exotic financial schemes people have gotten are beginning to reset and those who were already stretched thin are only a couple of months from financial ruin. nationwide accounts of developments being cancelled; contracts being cancelled because owners are unable to unload their existing property; ‘row after row’ of for sale signs on some streets, etc etc etc.
read thru some of the posts — i honestly don’t see how this doesn’t end in economic catastrophe for this country because of the widespread use of these mortgages. alan greenspan deserves a very special place in hell for so publicly advocating arms a couple of years ago — when it was very clear even at that point who the borrowers were. i’d recommend bookmarking this site — if you have the stomach for it:
http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/

Posted by: linda | Aug 16 2006 20:13 utc | 2

This real estate meltdown watch reminds me of born-again Christians eagerly awaiting the Rapture and the ensuing Tribulation period. Yes, housing prices in certain parts of the country, such as California, are at problematic levels and perhaps there will be considerable distress, but so what? That’s capitalism for you.
One notable aspect of this whole Housing Angst movement is that it is in its entirety a “blue-state” phenomenon: Upper class liberals have bid certain markets into the stratosphere and are now shitting themselves. The hated Anti-Christ, Bush, is somehow, vaguely, supposed to be at fault, because everything bad is his fault (cosmic rule # 1 b).
Large parts of US real estate remain fairly priced.
(The Mid-West ex-Chicago is cheap, actually).

Posted by: Guthman Bey | Aug 17 2006 0:04 utc | 3

Rice to Retire in Disgust Over Lebanon Failure
Bush Presents New Secretary of State to World
Friday, August 18, 2006
ALEXANDRIA – API
Rumors swirling for weeks since US Secretary of
State Condi Rice cut short her Vatican vacation
and waded briefly into the Israel-Lebanon debacle
have been confirmed today, when a spokesman for
the Secretary said she intends to retire shortly,
and seek a position within the military academia.
No news of who her latest military boyfriend is.
President Bush sought to calm global anxiety in
the face of this unexpected resignation, and today
announced the new Secretary, a high level manager
at Boston Scientific. An interview is posted here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQ4-cv4rhI&NR
Bush said that as soon as they can find two matching
pairs of lace-up black jack boots, the new Secretary
can begin assembling a Rice policy transition team,
one aimed more along the lines of pet food marketing
to the newly-conquered millions in the Middle East.

Posted by: Abey Crombie | Aug 17 2006 0:26 utc | 4

One notable aspect of this whole Housing Angst movement is that it is in its entirety a “blue-state” phenomenon
Not quite — it includes metro Atlanta, Phoenix, South Florida (admittedly, a blue area of a red state) Denver (ditto) Northern Virginia (ditto) . . . well, OK, I see your point.
But politically the results could be worse for the Republicans, not better. If Bush and the GOP get the blame (and as the party and president in power they’ll get most of it) it could just about wipe the Republicans out in the Northeast, south Florida and parts of California, and swing some seats in Arizona, New Mexico and the Mountain states. In other words, it could help complete the realignment that began when the Confederacy went GOP. That might — MIGHT, if the world doesn’t go to hell in a handbasket first — leave the Dems clinging to a narrow national majority, if they play their cards right.
But of course, they’re the Dems, so we know they WON’T play them right. Still, it’s the GOP that should be sweating this.
.

Posted by: billmon | Aug 17 2006 0:27 utc | 5

I think the problem depends mainly on how localized the problem is and how much of people’s equity is in real estate vs. other things. One of the reasons the Japanese bubble was so horrible was so much of so-called “wealth” of people all over Japan was tied up in the stratospheric values placed on real estate in or near Tokyo. (When the land under the Imperial Palace in Tokyo is valued as being more than the entire value of California, land, companies and all, you know you’ve got a problem.)
And then JR upon privatization was released with a lot of debt and a lot of land surrounding the railroad tracks which they were supposed to sell off to pay the debt. Unfortunately, the valuation was done at the height of the bubble. Oops….
There’s a lot of still very stinky financial messes in Japan tied up with the whole collapse of the bubble. It will probably take another 20 years or so for all of it to work out–at which point the next roller-coaster will have begun.

Posted by: tzs | Aug 17 2006 0:45 utc | 6

This housing “bubble” will not be as bad as many prognosticators believe. Those that have had the property for over a decade have plenty of equity to ride a large downturn of 30-40%. And even then it will only matter if they can’t keep up with their mortgage payments which they would have been doing for a decade. Those that bought recently especially in the go-go years of 2004 and 2005 have typically purchased with no-money down interest-only mortgages. If their ARMs reset and they can’t make the payments or if the comps show a big dip compared to when they purchased, they’ll just mail the keys to the mortgage company. The mortgage company in turn has packaged up all these mortgages into pools of mortgage-backed securities and sold it to yield hungry investors such as pension funds and of course the Chinese, Russians and Saudis who have plenty of excess dollars. These investors will likely take a hair cut on these MBS but since it is a small part of their portfolios it will not be a major dent.

Posted by: ab initio | Aug 17 2006 1:59 utc | 7

Still, it’s the GOP that should be sweating this.
Once there is real-estate trouble I can already see Bernanke stepping forward saying that overvalued markets have always corrected in history and that it wasn’t and isn’t the Fed’s role to tell people what to do.
In the same news cycle some Frist-like entity will blame inflated local real estate taxes for much of the mess, and propose tax cuts at the local level, which Democratic city councils will oppose.(Followed by a deluge of tv ads from Grover Norquist and friends).
After the obligatory finger-pointing I don’t see why the issue can’t play out neutral. Bernanke will say: You didn’t think we are here to bail out reckless behavior did you now? Caveat emptor anyone?
About the fall elections: yes the Lamonts of this world are pushing back… but, to be honest … I can’t even finish the sentence. The mere thought of strategizing from a Democratic point of view re-awakens deep traumas, my face starts to twitch and I start babbling incoherently, blurting out things like “but no, I voted for it before I voted against it.”
I am afraid I just don’t have enough LSD in the house to deal with this.

Posted by: Guthman Bey | Aug 17 2006 2:14 utc | 8

Residential real estate sales and mortgage activity stats are a nightmare. The reason for the bubble was abundant credit. That statement is in fact redundant. Bubbles are always credit phenomina. So the mortgage credit mania did it’s work and drove prices past the point of affordability. Hoping for a drop in rates to save the housing market is only fools and the desperate.
The inventory of existing homes for sale has increased 68% during the 18 months ended this June. The number of new homes increased by 2 million in 05 while the number of households increased by 1.1 million, suggesting a problem.
The one supposed bright spot is average and median sales prices. They rose in the second quarter. A fact that was touted far and wide in order to dispell the talk of a collapsing bubble. Something seems fishy however. What could it be? I think what happend is that the low and middle priced homes have been falling as a percentage of all transactions. Thus since relativly more high priced homes have been selling the average sales price actually rose. Take that rising home price talk for what it is, disinformation.
Sellers are always the last to know that prices are falling. Instead of lowering their price they just sit and wait with an unsold home. Presto, rising inventories, cratering volume, and of course average prices seemingly pretty solid. Distressed sales are rising however and the rising prices BS story is going to end soon, and with it will come the point of recognition.
Will it be a disaster? Nobody knows. It is fair to say however that this down cycle has the potential to be the worst since the 30’s. Along with it will come economic and financial stresses. The mortgage mania was THE source for systematic liquidiy following the stock market wreck. (Stocks are now where they were 8 years ago) With ‘equtiy’ extraction soon to be a thing of the past I wonder how we will maintain the -1.5% savings rate of the second quarter.
On a related note Fannie Mae has not issued an acceptable financial statment in 8 quarters yet is still listed on the NYSE, against all the rules. Foreign central banks, particularly China have been buying up the paper the Fanny and Feddie have been disgorging at an insane pace and now hold near half of all their outstanding paper. Suckers? Perhaps, or maybe it’s part of some subrosa bailout. Whatever. Things are weird and it doesn’t strike me as bullish in any case.
The administration it must be said can’t take the blame for all this. It was a machine built up over two decades and then sent hurtleing down the tracks with knowlege aforethought by Greenspan. In fact the administration went out of its way to reign in Fannie and Freddy and thus help turn of the flood of liquidity. Ending perhaps a bit sooner the mania.

Posted by: rapier | Aug 17 2006 2:16 utc | 9

I’m sorry, but what does this have to do with Jon Benet?

Posted by: biklett | Aug 17 2006 2:23 utc | 10

On a related note Fannie Mae has not issued an acceptable financial statment in 8 quarters yet is still listed on the NYSE, against all the rules.
Keep your eye on that one. There’s an old rule of thumb that when the Fed raises rates it raises them until it breaks something big — Mexico, Orange County, Long-Term Capital Management — something that really could pose a systemic financial risk. Then it stops in a hurry.
Fannie could be it this time.
Is it the end of the world? I don’t think so. But there’s plenty of statistical evidence that housing bubbles tend to last longer and do more damage to the real economy than stock market bubbles. If we do go into recession next year, as a few forecasters are now muttering, I don’t think we’ll have much trouble identifying the cause.

Posted by: billmon | Aug 17 2006 3:03 utc | 11

Foxtrot Delta India China, er, Charlie
Imagine a moon-unit, millions of ARM’s
marching in lock step off of a cliff.
Welcome to the so-called free market.
The used car biz will be a real Hummer.
link
The look on his face is priceless….
“Currently, there are 9,000 banks in
the United States,” he said, “But that
number is expected to fall to half that
number within five years
.”
Can you spell F-D-I-C?

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 17 2006 3:18 utc | 12

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Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 17 2006 3:26 utc | 13

Link (pdf) <-- READ PAGE FOUR link (pdf) <-- ESPECIALLY READ THIS ONE

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 17 2006 4:43 utc | 14

On a related note, Syria and Jordan are both experiencing humongous housing booms because of all the Iraqi and Lebanese refugees (with money), and because the oil money is being redirected from the US and Lebanon to the boom countries. Worth watching too.
The US situation is also a continuation of the restructuring (hollowing out) of the economy. The boom cities are still chock full of jobs servicing the empire. The rest of the country still has some retail openings at Walmart.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 1:28 utc | 15