Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 9, 2006
WB: But the “Israel Lobby” Doesn’t Exist

Billmon:

Because, of course, Jewish donors in Michigan, New York, Florida and Chicago are deeply concerned about conditions in Georgia’s 4th congressional district.

But the "Israel Lobby" Doesn’t Exist

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“The difference between the US and Europe on how to handle the Middle East is stark,” a Finnish diplomat said during a recent private meeting in Washington. “In the US your political parties worry about the Jewish vote – in Europe, political parties worry about the Muslim vote. It’s just that simple.”

It’s not just the vote but the funding! It makes sense considering the double barrel cheerleading from both parties.

Posted by: ab initio | Aug 9 2006 4:36 utc | 1

And the threat of nuking a political career.

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 9 2006 6:40 utc | 2

This is a repeat, she already got ousted the same way 4 years ago.
Please, tell me, why does AIPAC hate Bklack people?

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Aug 9 2006 8:27 utc | 3

I don’t know how to reach those in decision making position, but, if I was still in politics in an area where it would have leverage, I’d love to see Lamont having contact (In fact, flying him in for a strategy meeting) with Aron
I met Aron back when William had comments, and he not only is an opposition blogger bang-on-the-money from Israel, but also a lone progressive, with alternative views deeply needed in these neocon dominated MSM times.
As usual, I don’t expect any Alabamaites to read, nor follow my train of thought.
I posted anyway. Carry on, back to the circle talk.
😉

Posted by: Werner Dieter Thomas | Aug 9 2006 9:20 utc | 4

@Werner – interesting blog – thanks.

Posted by: b | Aug 9 2006 9:42 utc | 5

Welcome 🙂

Posted by: Werner Dieter Thomas | Aug 9 2006 10:05 utc | 6

btw, City of the Dead,
an account of Aron’s military time in Hebron is an excellent primer.
Then, watch this video,
Hatred is learned
and follow my train of thought, that a discussion of inserting reason into the Middle East debate can only be based on a thorough, overall strategy.
Any partial discussion, based on isolated incidences, no matter how logical, is doomed to be political suicide for any proponent. There is, IMHO, no point whatsoever in haggling with reality, but a dire need for a new strategy and plan-of-attack to bring change and humanity about again.
What would Brecht have said and done?
What is needed is an all-encompassing strategic reevaluation.
And, from the get go, it has to be strong and forcingly logical to survive the neo-fascist media hyenas.
So………if there is interest……..why don’t we rub our heads together here and lay out the fundaments for the new, American house of democracy?

Posted by: Werner Dieter Thomas | Aug 9 2006 10:36 utc | 7

I wonder whether Johnson solicited the contributions, which the “tapped into” language in the Hill article inplies. I’d hope he didn’t, but I’d bet he did.
I suppose it doesn’t matter now that the hooks are set, but it would have been fun to see him return them if they were unsolicited.

Posted by: YouFascinateMe | Aug 9 2006 15:22 utc | 8

“The difference between the US and Europe on how to handle the Middle East is stark,” a Finnish diplomat said during a recent private meeting in Washington. “In the US your political parties worry about the Jewish vote – in Europe, political parties worry about the Muslim vote. It’s just that simple.”

Yeah, except that the goal is the same: Domination of muslim countries for contracts for their corporations; taking wealth and resources from Muslim lands.
That is why Norway got the oil contracts in Iraq that the US didn’t get. That is why Saudi Arabia, dripping with Billions for decades was prevented in the ’60’s and ’70’s from developing their own oil technology companies. Instead they invest in NYC real estate, and other powerless baubles, which offer nothing back to their fellow Muslims.
The Europeans are just as happy to pick up the stray contracts that fall out of the grasp of American military might and corporate greed.
They just handle their publics differently.

If one ever had any doubt that politics, as we understand it, even transnational politics, is moribund.
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Fom Werner’s linked Israelblog:

As always, Noam Chomsky’s vast knowledge of the details behind world conflicts, makes whatever he says worth reading. However, I don’t share his pessimistic and apocalyptic conclusions. Already protests are becoming more widespread in Israel. 5,000 people turned out last week for an anti-war protest in Tel Aviv. Well-known Israeli “leftists” who fell in line behind this war are already speaking out against it.

Oh my God! 5000 people! Lordy lord, what’s next? They are only speaking out against it because Israel is not winning. Just like the US and Iraq. Nobody is against a good quick war where we whoop the other one’s ass.
I could go on, but please read this for a more accurate view of politics in Israel, particularly the stances of Israeli intellectuals. It is blood-curdling in the naked hate and disdain Israeli leftist intellectuals show for their Arab neighbors. Hitler’s Germany couldn’t do better.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 9 2006 15:31 utc | 9

Thanks for the link Wiener- it looks a remarkable blog, and so refreshing to read at times like these. If only there were more people like Aron, we might not be facing the abyss in front of us.

Posted by: Andrew | Aug 9 2006 21:27 utc | 10

Welcome, and thank you Andrew.

Posted by: Werner Dieter Thomas | Aug 9 2006 21:29 utc | 11

This blog, published by a friend of mine, has numerous links to progressive Israeli and Palestinian blogs. Unfortunately, do to Israel’s actions, there are no more progressive, peace-desiring, Lebanese blogs for you to link to.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 9 2006 21:56 utc | 12