Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 29, 2006
OT 06-82

Some news & views:

The NYT has a long piece about the British "moisture on planes" terror scare.

The supects were under surveilance for a year after several tips form the British Pakistani community. The apartment they used was bugged with police video and microphones. They are now said to have wanted to make an HMTD explosive (here is a recipe) which is difficult to make, takes several days to prepare, is not a fluid and extremly sensitive. In summary – that explosive, if it was involved at all, was definitly not suitable for the alleged act.

Some suspects did not have passports and none of the had a plane ticket.

The case was blown when the Pakistani police, at the urging of U.S. officials, arrested a guy connected to the plotters (a fact the NYT forgets to mention) i.e. for political timing reasons.

Ironically today U.S. secretary of homeland security Chertoff in a Washington Post OpEd uses the above case to call for even more international air passenger data to be handed over to his agency. Mr. Chertoff, there were no passengers …

In a report about clashes in Iraq, it is alleged that a big fight occured  between the Iraq military and the Sadr Mahdi militia. But reading through it, it is difficult to find a fact that really points to Sadr forces. I have the feeling someone is setting this up. Oh, by the way, after a few paragraphs on Sadr, we learn that nine U.S. soldieres were announced dead yesterday.

Atrios points to this graphic on housing prices now being 200% of their historic value. The return to the means will include a lot of pain.

Looking at Eastern Europe, this Guardian comment says what is obvious but seldom mentioned:

Had the eastern countries not thrown out the baby with the bathwater in the early 90s by adopting the massively deflationary IMF/EU prescription, their economies would now be in better shape and much of the current wave of migration could have been avoided. The large-scale labour exodus we are witnessing may benefit the CBI and western multinationals but certainly not most western workers, who are seeing their wage rates depressed. But the biggest losers are the eastern countries, deprived of so many young, talented and productive people.

Your news & views in the comments …

Comments

Count on the “liquid explosives” scenario to be played out again before the November US elections: Our security forces will uncover a plot so heinious & criminally brilliant that it could only have been stopped by illegal wiretapping.
Nonetheless, a few of the “big fish” will slip away, only because of restrictions on the investigators placed by that pesky Constitution, upon which there will be further calls to ignore the Bill of Rights in the pursuit of the Global War on Terror.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Aug 29 2006 9:51 utc | 1

In the Name of Emergency
Patriot Act 2

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 29 2006 13:05 utc | 2

The above ARE must reads in there own right, they came to my attention after reading several blogs on the following : The Bush administration has denied reentry into the country of two American CITIZENS!
Still more unchecked powers for the Bush administration
Also see,
US Citizens denied re-entry to US, by fiat. No hearing. No charges. Just not let back in.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 29 2006 13:17 utc | 3

more…“Citizen! Your papers, please!” — The right to travel dies

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 29 2006 13:31 utc | 4

VIDEO: Whistleblower uses YouTube to tell his story
Whistleblower uses YouTube to out key coup co-conspirator, Lockheed Martin, contracted to prepare coast a guard fleet to be easily compromised by…who knows? Terrorists?
Is this glaring, bumbling private-sector incompetance, or very competant, efficient planning for a fall back to such an explanation should something occur? Either way, pretty clear who’s in cahoots and not a ringing endorsement for the virtues of the private sector. Let’s see if some government oversight can do something about it (not holding my breath) now that the whistleblower’s statement is on you tube.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 29 2006 13:54 utc | 5

Rense links to this rather notable
Lone Star military intelligence analyst
who actually analyzes something important. The high percentage of support he receives in the comments following the article may be illusory, but at least the usual trolls and shills seem to be
either absent or hopelessly outnumbered. One would like to hope that this is a significant straw-in-the-wind, but it will probably make fewer waves than Cindy Sheehan, whose protest has not yet, alas, been able to reach “critical mass”.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Aug 29 2006 15:16 utc | 6

@ Uncle: Oops, sorry I duplicated your link in 5.
I wonder who is happy that the communications security is
below par. Probably not your average terrorist, but rather
those few states or groups having the technical capabilities to exploit that weakness.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Aug 29 2006 15:34 utc | 7

@ Uncle $cam. Oops again: I didn’t duplicate your link, but
rather went to it immediately after posting the Rense Texas
story.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Aug 29 2006 15:37 utc | 8

Softwood deal pours $450 million straight into White House, says U.S. lawyer.
Stephen Harper’s Conservative government recently signed a resolution to Canada’s long-standing softwood lumber dispute with the US. The Canadian delegation was headed by David Emerson, a Liberal MP who, after recent election as a Liberal, immediately crossed the floor and joined the Conservative government as a cabinet minister.
The dispute was reaching resolution through the courts that upheld Canada’s position, and was heading to a conclusion that the US would have to return billions of dollars that were withheld from Canadian lumber producers by the US.
Instead, an agreement was negotiated that favored US lumber producers, held Canadian suppliers to a quota of lumber permitted into the US, and returned only 80% of the withheld funds to Canadian lumber companies.
The companies are being coerced into acceptance of the agreement which gave a photo opportunity for Harper and Bush in Washington and was widely seen as the minority Conservatives throwing the Bush Administration a bone, a move that along with Canada’s military participation in Afghanistan increases the perception of Canadian support for the current US government.
Now a revelation of where the remaining 20% of the funds are going … to the White House!
From The Tyee:
Elliot J. Feldman of Baker & Hostetler LLP argued that Canada caved at a moment of strength, given that international rulings continued to land firmly on our side. Instead, Feldman argued, this deal will kill the NAFTA process which has favoured Canada’s position, and forfeit at least a billion dollars plus hundreds of millions of dollars more in interest that would have come our way had our negotiators hung tough.
Feldman, who is based in Washington, D.C., offered one more bit of startling analysis, excerpted below. The deal, he said, will funnel nearly half a billion dollars directly to George Bush’s White House, creating a political “slush fund” available to the Republicans and the U.S. timber industry for waging future campaigns.

Posted by: jonku | Aug 29 2006 17:25 utc | 9

Noam Chomsky: You Ask The Questions

Posted by: b real | Aug 29 2006 18:40 utc | 10

Can you post up the NYT article? It’s censored for us brits:

This Article Is Unavailable
On advice of legal counsel, this article is unavailable to readers of nytimes.com in Britain. This arises from the requirement in British law that prohibits publication of prejudicial information about the defendants prior to trial.

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 29 2006 19:52 utc | 11

#11 – maybe check the cryptome site

Posted by: b real | Aug 29 2006 20:13 utc | 12

I can’t access it through bugme not either..has it been removed?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 29 2006 20:29 utc | 13

uncle- b’s first link above takes me right to the story. no problemo, no login req’d.

Posted by: b real | Aug 29 2006 20:37 utc | 14

Well, it doesn’t here b real, nor can a friend access it…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 29 2006 20:44 utc | 15

but it’s not removed, which was your question. just blocked for certain IP address ranges.

Posted by: b real | Aug 29 2006 21:04 utc | 16

Here it is:

Details Emerge in British Terror Case
Dylan Martinez/Reuters
John Reid, Britain’s home secretary, took questions on Aug. 10 in London during a news conference about the suspected plot by terrorists to blow up passenger planes flying from Britain to the United States.
By DON VAN NATTA Jr., ELAINE SCIOLINO and STEPHEN GREY
Published: August 28, 2006
LONDON, Aug. 27 — On Aug. 9, in a small second-floor apartment in East London, two young Muslim men recorded a video justifying what the police say was their suicide plot to blow up trans-Atlantic planes: revenge against the United States and its “accomplices,” Britain and the Jews.
Related
Times Withholds Web Article in Britain
“As you bomb, you will be bombed; as you kill, you will be killed,” said one of the men on a “martyrdom” videotape, whose contents were described by a senior British official and a person briefed about the case. The young man added that he hoped God would be “pleased with us and accepts our deed.”
As it happened, the police had been monitoring the apartment with hidden video and audio equipment. Not long after the tape was recorded that day, Scotland Yard decided to shut down what they suspected was a terrorist cell. That action set off a chain of events that raised the terror threat levels in Britain and the United States, barred passengers from taking liquids on airplanes and plunged air traffic into chaos around the world.
The ominous language of seven recovered martyrdom videotapes is among new details that emerged from interviews with high-ranking British, European and American officials last week, demonstrating that the suspects had made considerable progress toward planning a terrorist attack. Those details include fresh evidence from Britain’s most wide-ranging terror investigation: receipts for cash transfers from abroad, a handwritten diary that appears to sketch out elements of a plot, and, on martyrdom tapes, several suspects’ statements of their motives.
But at the same time, five senior British officials said, the suspects were not prepared to strike immediately. Instead, the reactions of Britain and the United States in the wake of the arrests of 21 people on Aug. 10 were driven less by information about a specific, imminent attack than fear that other, unknown terrorists might strike.
The suspects had been working for months out of an apartment that investigators called the “bomb factory,” where the police watched as the suspects experimented with chemicals, according to British officials and others briefed on the evidence, all of whom spoke on condition of anonymity, citing British rules on confidentiality regarding criminal prosecutions.
In searches during raids, the police discovered what they said were the necessary components to make a highly volatile liquid explosive known as HMTD, jihadist materials, receipts of Western Union money transfers, seven martyrdom videos made by six suspects and the last will and testament of a would-be bomber, senior British officials said. One of the suspects said on his martyrdom video that the “war against Muslims” in Iraq and Afghanistan had motivated him to act.
Investigators say they believe that one of the leaders of the group, an unemployed man in his 20’s who was living in a modest apartment on government benefits, kept the key to the alleged “bomb factory” and helped others record martyrdom videos, the officials said.
Hours after the police arrested the 21 suspects, police and government officials in both countries said they had intended to carry out the deadliest terrorist attack since Sept. 11.
Later that day, Paul Stephenson, deputy chief of the Metropolitan Police in London, said the goal of the people suspected of plotting the attack was “mass murder on an unimaginable scale.” On the day of the arrests, some officials estimated that as many as 10 planes were to be blown up, possibly over American cities. Michael Chertoff, the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, described the suspected plot as “getting really quite close to the execution stage.”
But British officials said the suspects still had a lot of work to do. Two of the suspects did not have passports, but had applied for expedited approval. One official said the people suspected of leading the plot were still recruiting and radicalizing would-be bombers.
While investigators found evidence on a computer memory stick indicating that one of the men had looked up airline schedules for flights from London to cities in the United States, the suspects had neither made reservations nor purchased plane tickets, a British official said. Some of their suspected bomb-making equipment was found five days after the arrests in a suitcase buried under leaves in the woods near High Wycombe, a town 30 miles northwest of London.
Another British official stressed that martyrdom videos were often made well in advance of an attack. In fact, two and a half weeks since the inquiry became public, British investigators have still not determined whether there was a target date for the attacks or how many planes were to be involved. They say the estimate of 10 planes was speculative and exaggerated.
In his first public statement after the arrests, Peter Clarke, chief of counterterrorism for the Metropolitan Police, acknowledged that the police were still investigating the basics: “the number, destination and timing of the flights that might be attacked.”
A total of 25 people have been arrested in connection with the suspected plot. Twelve of them have been charged. Eight people were charged with conspiracy to commit murder and preparing acts of terrorism. Three people were charged with failing to disclose information that could help prevent a terrorist act, and a 17-year-old male suspect was charged with possession of articles that could be used to prepare a terrorist act. Eight people still in custody have not been charged. Five have been released. All the suspects arrested are British citizens ranging in age from 17 to 35.
Despite the charges, officials said they were still unsure of one critical question: whether any of the suspects was technically capable of assembling and detonating liquid explosives while airborne.
A chemist involved in that part of the inquiry, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was sworn to confidentiality, said HMTD, which can be prepared by combining hydrogen peroxide with other chemicals, “in theory is dangerous,” but whether the suspects “had the brights to pull it off remains to be seen.”
While officials and experts familiar with the case say the investigation points to a serious and determined group of plotters, they add that questions about the immediacy and difficulty of the suspected bombing plot cast doubt on the accuracy of some of the public statements made at the time.
“In retrospect,’’ said Michael A. Sheehan, the former deputy commissioner of counterterrorism in the New York Police Department, “there may have been too much hyperventilating going on.”
Some of the suspects came to the attention of Scotland Yard more than a year ago, shortly after four suicide bombers attacked three subway trains and a double-decker bus in London on July 7, 2005, a coordinated attack that killed 56 people and wounded more than 700. The investigation was dubbed “Operation Overt.’’
The Police Are Tipped Off
The police were apparently tipped off by informers. One former British counterterrorism official, who was working for the government at the time, said several people living in Walthamstow, a working-class neighborhood in East London, alerted the police in July 2005 about the intentions of a small group of angry young Muslim men.
Walthamstow is best known for its faded greyhound track and the borough of Waltham Forest, where more than 17,000 Pakistani immigrants live in the largest Pakistani enclave in London.
Armed with the tips, MI5, Britain’s domestic security services, began an around-the-clock surveillance operation of a dozen young men living in Walthamstow — bugging their apartments, tapping their phones, monitoring their bank transactions, eavesdropping on their Internet traffic and e-mail messages, even watching where they traveled, shopped and took their laundry, according to senior British officials.
The initial focus of the investigation was not about possible terrorism aboard planes, but an effort to see whether there were any links between the dozen men and the July 7 subway bombers, or terrorist cells in Pakistan, the officials said.
The authorities quickly learned the identity of the man believed to have been the leader of the cell, the unemployed man in his mid-20’s, who traveled at least twice within the past year to Pakistan, where his activities are still being investigated.
Last June, a 22-year-old Walthamstow resident, who is among the suspects arrested Aug. 10, paid $260,000 cash for a second-floor apartment in a house on Forest Road, according to official property records. The authorities noticed that six men were regularly visiting the second-floor apartment that came to be known as the “bomb factory,” according to a British official and the person briefed about the case.
Two of the men, who were likely the bomb-makers, were conducting a series of experiments with chemicals, said the person briefed on the case.
MI5 agents secretly installed video and audio recording equipment inside the apartment, two senior British officials said. In a secret search conducted before the Aug. 10 raids, agents had discovered that the inside of batteries had been scooped out, and that it appeared several suspects were doing chemical experiments with a sports drink named Lucozade and syringes, the person with knowledge of the case said. Investigators have said they believe that the suspects intended to bring explosive chemicals aboard planes inside sports drink bottles.
In that apartment, according to a British official, one of the leaders and a man in his late 20’s met at least twice to discuss the suspected plot, as MI5 agents secretly watched and listened. On Aug. 9, just hours before the police raids occurred in 50 locations from East London to Birmingham, the two men met again to discuss the suspected plot and record a martyrdom video.
As one of the men read from a script before a videocamera, he recited a quotation from the Koran and ticked off his reasons for the “action that I am going to undertake,” according to the person briefed on the case. The man said he was seeking revenge for the foreign policy of the United States, and “their accomplices, the U.K. and the Jews.” The man said he wanted to show that the enemies of Islam would never win this “war.”
Beseeching other Muslims to join jihad, he justified the killing of innocent civilians in America and other Western countries because they supported the war against Muslims through their tax dollars. They were too busy enjoying their Western lifestyles to protest the policies, he added. Though British officials usually release little information about continuing investigations, Scotland Yard took the unusual step of disclosing some detailed information about the investigation last Monday, when the suspects were charged.
A Trove of Evidence
“There have been 69 searches,” Mr. Clarke, the chief antiterrorist police official from Scotland Yard, said Monday. “These have been in houses, flats and business premises, vehicles and open spaces.”
Investigators also seized more than 400 computers, 200 mobile phones and 8,000 items like memory sticks, CD’s and DVD’s. “The scale is immense,” Mr. Clarke said. “Inquiries will span the globe.”
He said those searches revealed a trove of evidence, and officials and others last week provided additional details.
Four of the law firms that are defending suspects declined to comment.
When police officers knocked down the door to the second-floor apartment on Forest Road, they found a plastic bin filled with liquid, batteries, nearly a dozen empty drink bottles, rubber gloves, digital scales and a disposable camera that was leaking liquid, the person with knowledge of the case said. The camera might have been a prototype for a device to smuggle chemicals on the plane.
In the pocket of one of the suspects, the police found the computer memory stick that showed he had looked up airline schedules for flights from London to the United States, a British official said. The man is said to have had a diary that included a list that the police interpreted as a step-by-step plan for an attack. The items included batteries and Lucozade bottles. It also included a reminder to select a date.
In the homes of a number of the suspects, the police found jihadist literature and DVD’s about “genocide” in Iraq and Palestine, according to British officials. In one house searched by the police in Walthamstow, the authorities found a copy of a book called “Defense of the Muslim Lands.”
A “last will and testament” for one of the accused was said to have been found at his brother’s home. Dated Sept. 24, 2005, the will concludes, “What should I worry when I die a Muslim, in the manner in which I am to die, I go to my death for the sake of my maker.” God, he added, can if he wants “bless limbs torn away!!!”
Looking for Global Ties
In addition, the British authorities are scouring the evidence for clues to whether there is a global dimension to the suspected plot, particularly the extent to which it was planned, financed or supported in Pakistan, and whether there is a connection to remnants of Al Qaeda. They are still trying to determine who provided the cash for the apartment and the computer equipment and telephones, officials said.
Several of the suspects had traveled to Pakistan within weeks of the arrests, according to an American counterterrorism official.
At a minimum, investigators say at least one of the suspects’ inspiration was drawn from Al Qaeda. One of the suspects’ “kill-as-they-kill” martyrdom video was taken from a November 2002 fatwa by Osama bin Laden.
British officials said many of the questions about the suspected plot remained unanswered because they were forced to make the arrests before Scotland Yard was ready.
The trigger was the arrest in Pakistan of Rashid Rauf, a 25-year-old British citizen with dual Pakistani citizenship, whom Pakistani investigators have described as a “key figure” in the plot.
In 2000, Mr. Rauf’s father founded Crescent Relief London, a charity that sent money to victims of last October’s earthquake in Pakistan. Several suspects met through their involvement in the charity, a friend of one of them said. Last week, Britain froze the charity’s bank accounts and opened an investigation into possible “terrorist abuse of charitable funds.” Leaders of the charity have denied the allegations.
Several senior British officials said the Pakistanis arrested Rashid Rauf without informing them first. The arrest surprised and frustrated investigators here who had wanted to monitor the suspects longer, primarily to gather more evidence and to determine whether they had identified all the people involved in the suspected plot.
But within hours of Mr. Rauf’s arrest on Aug. 9 in Pakistan, British officials heard from intelligence sources that someone connected to him had tried to contact some of the suspects in East London. The message was interpreted by investigators as a possible signal to move forward with the plot, officials said.
“The plotters received a very short message to ‘Go now,’ ” said Franco Frattini, the European Union’s security commissioner, who was briefed by the British home secretary, John Reid, in London. “I was convinced by British authorities that this message exists.”
A senior British official said the message from Pakistan was not that explicit. But, nonetheless, investigators here had to change their strategy quickly.
“The aim was to keep this operation going for much longer,” said a senior British security official who requested anonymity because of confidentiality rules. “It ended much sooner than we had hoped.”
From then on, the British government was driven by worst-case scenarios based on a minimum-risk strategy.
British investigators worried that word of Mr. Rauf’s arrest could push the London suspects to destroy evidence and to disperse, raising the possibility they would not be able to arrest them all. But investigators also could not rule out that there could be an unknown second cell that would try to carry out a similar plan, officials said.
Mr. Clarke, as the country’s top antiterrorism police official in London with authority over police decisions, ordered the arrests.
But it was left to Mr. Reid, who has been home secretary since May and is a former defense secretary, to decide at emergency meetings of police, national security and transport leaders, what else needed to be done. Mr. Reid and Mr. Clarke declined repeated requests for interviews.
Prime Minister Tony Blair was on vacation in Barbados, where he was said to have monitored events in London; Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott did not attend the meeting.
“While the arrests were unfolding, the Home Office raised Britain’s terror alert level to “critical,” as the police continued their raids of suspects’ homes and cars. All liquids were banned from carry-on bags, and some public officials in Britain and the United States said an attack appeared to be imminent. In addition to Mr. Stephenson’s remark that the attack would have been “mass murder on an unimaginable scale,” Mr. Reid said that attacks were “highly likely” and predicted that the loss of life would have been on an “unprecedented scale.”
Two weeks later, senior officials here characterized the remarks as unfortunate. As more information was analyzed and the British government decided that the attack was not imminent, Mr. Reid sought to calm the country by backing off from his dire predictions, while defending the decision to raise the alert level to its highest level as a precaution.
In lowering the threat level from critical to severe on Aug. 14, Mr. Reid acknowledged: “Threat level assessments are intelligence-led. It is not a process where scientific precision is possible. They involve judgments.”
Reporting for this article was contributed by William J. Broad from New York, Carlotta Gall from Pakistan, David Johnston and Mark Mazzetti from Washington.

Posted by: Hamburger | Aug 29 2006 21:08 utc | 17

Thanks guys…
Also, The Inquirer is stating that some Canadians and Australians were also blocked from reading the article. The INQ bring up the fact that others pick up stories from the Times like the Toronto Star which can be read from the UK.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 29 2006 21:28 utc | 18

Next time try news.google.com – enter the headline in the Search function and you will get links to not only the original article but all other spinoff versions around the world. Is the block on your viewing so extensive as to cover the Times of India, for example?

Posted by: Bea | Aug 29 2006 22:34 utc | 19

Meanwhile,to complement my Sunday Gorilla link:
Gorillas in the Mist: Sikhs and Assorted Darkies Join the Fray
Read this DKOS diary folks. It’s really getting HOT in Virginia. And circulate it too, please.

Posted by: Ms Manners | Aug 30 2006 0:13 utc | 20

jonku, thanks for the bit about the softwood lumber scam. I’ll be asking my MP his thoughts.
I read this book of his recently. I have a few quibbles, but I do agree that democracy depends on the distrust of the electorate.

Posted by: gmac | Aug 30 2006 0:19 utc | 21

I know it’s not exactly news, but our SecDef is, as far as I can tell, either a pathological liar or batshit insane. Make that both.

“What bothers me the most is how clever the enemy is,” he continued, launching an extensive broadside at Islamist groups, which he said are trying to undermine Western support for the war on terror.
“They are actively manipulating the media in this country” by, for example, falsely blaming U.S. troops for civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, he said.

Because we’ve not murdered, raped or tortured a single person in either country, honest.

“They can lie with impunity,” he said, while U.S. troops are held to a high standard of conduct.

The Pentagon never lies. And the few bad apples, and those responsible for them, always receive swift justice.

Mr. Rumsfeld often complains about what he calls the terrorists’ success in convincing Westerners that the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are part of a crusade against Islam. In his remarks at Fallon, he did not offer any new examples of press manipulation; he emphasized, however, its negative effect on Americans in an era of 24-hour news.

Why oh why does the MSM always take Hezbollah’s side?

“The enemy is so much better at communicating,” he added. “I wish we were better at countering that because the constant drumbeat of things they say — all of which are not true — is harmful.

The enemy always lies. Us? Never. Maybe we should start catapulting some propaganda or something ourselves.

Posted by: ran | Aug 30 2006 4:22 utc | 22

And then there’s our Dear Leader:

“These terrorists have made it clear they want us to leave Iraq prematurely, and why is it?” he asked. “Because they want a safe haven. They’d love to get ahold of oil. They have territorial ambitions. …

Project much, moron?

Posted by: ran | Aug 30 2006 4:34 utc | 23

Israel: apartheid state

Posted by: ran | Aug 30 2006 4:48 utc | 24

John Le Carré makes a few comments on Israeli policy toward Lebanon.
FWIW, I think his book “Absolute Friends” should be required reading for anyone interested in false flags and black operations.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Aug 30 2006 8:04 utc | 25

I know it’s pure fantasy, but is there anyone else out there who would be willing to pay a king’s ransom to witness a Bush-Ahmadinejad debate? Perhaps the joust could be rendered a bit less one-sided by requiring Ahmadinejad to debate in English, while allowing Bush the use
of a translator (into coherent English, of course).

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Aug 30 2006 8:21 utc | 26

HKOL, not only would I pay handsomely for ducats to that debate, I would pay double for a second bill of Ray Close or Ray McGovern (or both, a tag team called the EX-Rays …) debating Cheney and his choice of team-mate.
Seconds could be Cheney backed up by Rumsfeld, W, chubby Perle and wolf-skinny Wolfowitz, and backing up the Rays would be old man Chomsky the former Zionist youth and Ralph Nader. Or maybe we could just send in Hugo Chavez.
Makes it a bit more interesting, no?

Posted by: jonku | Aug 30 2006 9:52 utc | 27

This bit of agitprop from Debka file should reassure everyone that Israel’s heretofore too conciliatory foreign and military policy is about to be shifted to stonger, more competent hands. The Likudniks have their knives sharpened for the hopelessly dovish Olmert, Peretz, and Halutz, and it’s not hard to guess who is going to be punished for that triumvirate’s alleged misdeeds.
The following comment catches one’s attention:

Three times as many Hizballah officers are traveling to the Gaza Strip by sea as before the war and deliveries of weapons systems have doubled, with Iranian support. Very large quantities of Katyusha rockets and anti-tank missiles are pouring into the Gaza Strip together with hundreds of RPG-29 rocket-propelled grenades and Grad rockets.
Intelligence leaders are warning the prime minister that if this influx is not scotched forthwith, southern Israel will find itself face to face with a second Hizballah front ready to go active in the second half of October.
[my emphasis]

The precise logistics of Hezbollah tourist-terrorist cruises to Gaza while traversing the continuing Israeli naval blockade of Lebanon would be of interest, but perhaps “they” are arriving directly from Iran via the Suez canal and carrying their missiles with them through Israeli and Egyptian check-points. The MidEast is, after all, the land of miracles.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Aug 30 2006 9:56 utc | 28

pilger: Return Of People Power

In researching a new film, I have been watching documentary archive from the 1980s, the era of Ronald Reagan and his “secret war” against Central America. What is striking is the relentless lying. A department of lying was set up under Reagan with the coy name, “office of public diplomacy”. Its purpose was to dispense “white” and “black” propaganda – lies – and to smear journalists who told the truth. Almost everything Reagan himself said on the subject was false. Time and again, he warned Americans of an “imminent threat” from the tiny impoverished nations that occupy the isthmus between the two continents of the western hemisphere. “Central America is too close and its strategic stakes are too high for us to ignore the danger of governments seizing power with military ties to the Soviet Union,” he said. Nicaragua was “a Soviet base” and “communism is about to take over the Caribbean”. The United States, said the president, “is engaged in a war on terrorism, a war for freedom”.
How familiar it all sounds. Merely replace Soviet Union and communism with al-Qaeda, and you are up to date. And it was all a fantasy. The Soviet Union had no bases in or designs on Central America; on the contrary, the Soviets were adamant in turning down appeals for their aid. The comic strips of “missile storage depots” that American officials presented to the United Nations were precursors to the lies told by Colin Powell in his infamous promotion of Iraq’s non-existent weapons of mass destruction at the Security Council in 2003.
Whereas Powell’s lies paved the way for the invasion of Iraq and the violent death of at least 100,000 people, Reagan’s lies disguised his onslaught on Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala. By the end of his two terms, 300,000 people were dead. In Guatemala, his proxies – armed and tutored in torture by the CIA – were described by the UN as perpetrators of genocide.
There is one major difference today. That is the level of awareness among people everywhere of the true purpose of Bush and Blair’s “war on terror” and the scale and diversity of the popular resistance to it. In Reagan’s day, the notion that presidents and prime ministers lied as deliberate, calculated acts was considered exotic; Nixon’s Watergate lies were said to be shocking because presidents did not lie outright.
Almost no one believes that any more.

guardian: US accused of bid to oust Chávez with secret funds

The US government has been accused of trying to undermine the Chávez government in Venezuela by funding anonymous groups via its main international aid agency.
Millions of dollars have been provided in a “pro-democracy programme” that Chávez supporters claim is a covert attempt to bankroll an opposition to defeat the government.
The money is being provided by the US Agency for International Development (USAID) through its Office of Transition Initiatives.

in case you missed it,
philip agee: How United States Intervention Against Venezuela Works
part one — Summary, CIA Electoral Interventions, and Nicaragua as a Model for Venezuela
part two — Use of a Private U.S. Corporate Structure to Disguise a Government Program
part three — Analysis of Four USAID Contracts with Republican and Democratic Party Foundations in Venezuela
and, an interview w/ agee
The Nature of CIA Intervention in Venezuela

Posted by: b real | Aug 30 2006 15:20 utc | 29

Even MSNBC is starting to take note of the possible emergence of a parallel government in Mexico. By a year from now the consequences of this might eclipse even the Iraq fiasco, but that is only under the assumption that the
Bushites manage to achieve a “worst case outcome” south of the U.S. border.
Let our resident “realists” tell me why there’s really nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Aug 30 2006 15:26 utc | 30

“The precise logistics of Hezbollah tourist-terrorist cruises to Gaza…”
Thanks for that much needed laugh HKO.

Posted by: ran | Aug 30 2006 16:06 utc | 31

US Government Restricting Research Libraries

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 30 2006 16:06 utc | 32

Thanks b real #29 GOOD POST.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 30 2006 16:23 utc | 33

Great Pilger piece b real.

Posted by: ran | Aug 30 2006 16:51 utc | 34

george carlin on golf:

Basically, a dull, boring game to watch. Have you ever seen golf on television? It’s like watching flies fuck. Frankly, I get more excited picking out socks. A kinda dumb premise… How much brains does it take to get enjoyment out of this: You hit a ball, with a crooked stick, and then…. you walk after it. And then, when you find it, what do you do? YOU HIT IT AGAIN!!!! I say pick it up, asshole; you’re lucky you found it in the first place! And a waste of real estate. You know how
we can solve the problem of homelessness in this country? Convert all the golf courses into housing developments for the homeless.

somebody did more than just laugh…
Caracas takes golf courses for housing

Three major Caracas golf courses, long favored by the city’s wealthy, are being expropriated to build housing for thousands of poor and middle class Venezuelans, officials said Tuesday.
The city expropriations, which will likely generate new friction between supporters and opponents of President Hugo Chavez, are part of an ambitious government effort to provide more homes amid an acute housing shortage that has driven up real estate prices.
Mayor Juan Barreto’s office has ordered the “forced acquisition” of two golf courses and will soon issue another decree expropriating a third course in the ritzy hills of southern Caracas, city attorney Juan Manuel Vadell told The Associated Press.

Barreto told state television as many as 50,000 homes would be built on 363 acres spanning the three golf courses.

Posted by: b real | Aug 30 2006 18:40 utc | 35

b real,
What lovely symmetry to have that in Caracas just as NYC gives up the ghost of caring. 110 enormous buildings for sale.
Or a non-NYT link: 80 acres of New York City
That parcel was made for Met Life in 1947 by eminent domain, and by donation of city roads to Met Life in exchange for cheap rents. Now, why hasn’t Met Life sold the property in all those years and taken the big profit?
My bet: the city has a contract that would allow it stop the sale at any moment. But it won’t. And that is Met Life’s real achievement.
This is why Big Government is no longer trusted by either Left or Right. Too many sleazy sellout secrets.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 30 2006 19:03 utc | 36

Deliberate blockage (of site, or article, etc.) is nothing compared to the shills who scribble, film, grin, act horrifyingly serious, spouting lies 24/24, for the big media companies.
That last terrorist scare is not worthy of attention. Shampoo bombs? Heh. The authorities know that it will have its effect – half will trip and scurry, gripped in fear, mostly scared of being deprived of deodorant, perfume, being hassled, relishing the drama of calling relatives about their position, as if they were participating in important world wide matters, were intrepid travelers, subject to astonishing, even horrendous hardship, are both brave and submissive, are important, live events, participate, have a story to tell.
The other half will denounce, complain about trivial matters, such as unclear airline rules, laws that are not respected, terrorist hype, etc. etc.
And then what? Nothing.
Nothing happens at all.

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 30 2006 19:18 utc | 37

interesting, citizen. didn’t met recently unload the sears tower too? they’re definitely not facing solvency problems, so why divest themselves of such desireable property? sell high, buy low – as in after a big correction?

Posted by: b real | Aug 30 2006 20:22 utc | 38

In 2004, they sold their own flagship building too, largest office sale that year.
They’ve been selling billions each year for a while now it seems.
Probably a regulatory change, wouldn’t you say.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 30 2006 20:41 utc | 39

Famous failed denials
Richard Nixon: I am not a crook.
Bill Clinton: I did not sleep with that woman.
George W. Bush: Nobody likes to see innocent people die….
War is not a time of joy.

good on you, Jon Stewart.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 30 2006 21:11 utc | 40

interesting memory tool

Posted by: citizen | Aug 30 2006 21:31 utc | 41

Re: denials:
Bush in a class by himself.

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 30 2006 22:38 utc | 42

b, just sent you an email.

Posted by: conchita | Aug 31 2006 14:46 utc | 43

Kenneth Olbermann confounds Godwin’s Law

In a small irony, however, Mr. Rumsfeld’s speechwriter was adroit in invoking the memory of the appeasement of the Nazis. For in their time, there was another government faced with true peril—with a growing evil—powerful and remorseless.
That government, like Mr. Rumsfeld’s, had a monopoly on all the facts. It, too, had the “secret information.” It alone had the true picture of the threat. It too dismissed and insulted its critics in terms like Mr. Rumsfeld’s — questioning their intellect and their morality.
That government was England’s, in the 1930’s.
It knew Hitler posed no true threat to Europe, let alone England.
It knew Germany was not re-arming, in violation of all treaties and accords. 
It knew that the hard evidence it received, which contradicted its own policies, its own conclusions — its own omniscience — needed to be dismissed.
The English government of Neville Chamberlain already knew the truth.
Most relevant of all — it “knew” that its staunchest critics needed to be marginalized and isolated. In fact, it portrayed the foremost of them as a blood-thirsty war-monger who was, if not truly senile, at best morally or intellectually confused.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 31 2006 15:55 utc | 44

rumsfeld obviously has a deep facistnation w/ hitler. in march i gathered some of this rhetoric in this post. may require a database at this rate.

Posted by: b real | Aug 31 2006 16:18 utc | 45

Can A Comic Book Help Us To Understand 9/11?

We’ve had books, documentaries and movies about 9/11 – this week we got the comic book. Is the most defining moment of a generation in danger of becoming just another franchise with a Happy Meal tie-in on the horizon? Or are we in many ways still struggling to understand what happened that day? And does a comic book help us achieve that?

Posted by: beq | Aug 31 2006 17:21 utc | 46

Michael Berube in 2002 explores a history of how the left broke in the U.S.
This excerpt comes from close to the conclusion:

The fissure on the left that began in 1989-90 and became visible in Kosovo is now a chasm. In retrospect, Kosovo didn’t have quite the impact on the left it might have, partly because conservatives also opposed that operation on the grounds that Clinton had ordered it (by 1999, Clinton could have launched a campaign against childhood diseases and House Republicans would’ve responded by declaring measles a vegetable and bundling it into school breakfast programs), partly because of Monica, and partly because it was shrouded in murk from Srebrenica to Rambouillet. But many of the most vocal opponents of the U.S.–led NATO intervention in Kosovo are now the most vocal opponents to the U.S.–led intervention in Afghanistan, which suggests two things: first, that the fact of civilian deaths on U.S. soil is in an important sense immaterial to their position on U.S. policy, and second, that on the grounds they offer today, they will never support another American military action of any kind. Permanently alienated by Vietnam, by Chile, by Indonesia, or by Reagan’s deadly adventures in Central America, they’re gone and they’re not coming back, not even if hijackers plow planes into towers in downtown Manhattan.
The right is just gleeful about this, of course, because it needs the Chomskian left for effigies, hate minutes, election-year fundraising and general vituperation. Christopher Hitchens seems pretty happy as well, since he gets to settle a bunch of old scores and coin acerbic new phrases like “the Milosevic left” and “the Taliban left.” But for all my sympathy with Hitchens, I cannot share his sense of exhilaration; instead, as I watch that shard of the left sailing away, I modulate between relief and sorrow. Relief, because the break is decisive and clarifying, highlighting all those who cannot use the word “heroes” without scare quotes, all those who cannot bring themselves to utter anything about freedom and democracy if doing so will make them say words that might also have come from the mouth of a conservative. Sorrow, because there will soon come a time when I am going to miss these people, when I am going to wish they had some clout in domestic politics. Not because I will agree with them, necessarily, but because–unlike liberals–they do not make compromises, and they know how to get mad.

This is an older piece, so no fair critiquing Berube for Hitchens sympathy if you’re reckoning from more recent Hitchens shilling.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 31 2006 17:26 utc | 47

The Scream recovered.

Posted by: beq | Aug 31 2006 17:36 utc | 48

Shrubco less popular than the West Nile virus, in Salt Lake City?. Who knew?

A crowd of thousands cheered Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson for calling President Bush a “dishonest, war-mongering, human-rights violating president” whose time in office would “rank as the worst presidency our nation has ever had to endure.”
The group – including children and elderly and some hailing from throughout Utah – then marched to the federal building Wednesday to deliver a copy of a symbolic indictment against the president and Congress for abuse of power and failure to uphold the U.S. Constitution.
With their signs labeling Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld the “axis of evil,” calling the Iraq war a “mission of lies” or comparing the invasion of Iraq after Sept. 11, 2001, to invading Mexico after Pearl Harbor, the estimated 1,500 to 4,000 protesters hoped their demonstration at the Salt Lake City-County Building sent a message about the reddest state in the country.

Posted by: ran | Aug 31 2006 18:07 utc | 49

Richard Heinberg is on now – for next 45mins.
Amazing to see such protests in Utah, but even more impressive that lead newspaper (church owned?) is covering it.

Posted by: jj | Aug 31 2006 19:15 utc | 50

from speech linked above…US imports from oil than China & Japan combined….Who knew…

Posted by: jj | Aug 31 2006 19:20 utc | 51

via cursor, nyt thing on one of bush’s speeches yesterday:
“We face an enemy that has an ideology,’’ Mr. Bush continued. “They believe things. The best way to describe their ideology is to relate to you the fact that they think the opposite of the way we think.”
he’s every bit the pericles.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 31 2006 19:24 utc | 52

@jj
thank you so much for this link, listening now. hope it is archived later. fascinating fascinating and scary as hell.

Posted by: gylangirl | Aug 31 2006 19:27 utc | 53

@gylangirl
Small school district owned station. They may not have the capacity to archive. But for future reference, this is the one hour/wk that they have someone particularly interesting on (last week it was Chomsky discussing Lebanon) – it’s David Barsamian’s “Alternative Radio”.

Posted by: jj | Aug 31 2006 19:38 utc | 54

cool. i’ll save the link. usually same time of day?

Posted by: gylangirl | Aug 31 2006 19:40 utc | 55

“They got a narrow view of freedom.”
catchphrase of the night, right there.

Posted by: b real | Aug 31 2006 19:41 utc | 56

gylangirl’s live notes & commentary on the speech:
‘reducing demand more useful than increasing supply’
guess he’s in the permaculture rather than the technofix camp of peakniks
YES: ‘local citizen groups more reliable to relocalize economies and food supplies than the feds’
‘oil depletion protocol [Colin Campbell
exporters produce less per yr
importers consume less per yr
to stabalize prices
to avoid bankrupting smaller economies’
‘versus horrific scenario
of volatile prices destroying economic activity
global economic chaos’
YES: ‘food is oil dependent. w/o cheap oil, needs reducing chemical inputs and localizing food production
use farmers market
join csa’s
no more sprawl
build walkable communities
human power-ed vehicles
relocalize our economies
shoppers stop choosing walmart over local vendors
plan for a great depression
employ each other labor services rather than machines
enact ENERGY DESCENT PLANS for your town/community
join a post carbon outpost @post carbon institute’
great speech [repeated from jan 2006!]

Posted by: gylangirl | Aug 31 2006 19:54 utc | 57

hahahahahahaha!
It’s not the hysterical laughter that bothers me..

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 31 2006 20:25 utc | 58

From Prison Planet

Regarding the NY Times blocking of liquid terror plot article.
Well it turns out that you could be prosecuted by the redcoat government.
“There has not been a prosecution for contempt over anybody publishing outside this jurisdiction (Britain), but logically there is no reason why there should not be,” said Caroline Kean, partner at UK media law firm Wiggin.
Steve Watson / Infowars | August 31 2006

Posted by: Rick Happ | Aug 31 2006 21:01 utc | 59

re the post-election Abramoff Delay [pun intended]:
Could backfire on GOP. Suppose 50 sitting Republicans are indicted after the election. That’s a bigger story than indicting 50 GOP has-beens who had lost re-election anyway back in 06. The latter is a story that could have been dismissed by a ‘we already cleaned house in 06’ new-and-improved GOP in 2008.
GOP could have cut their losses now in order to look squeaky clean in a presidential election year. They won’t be able to do that now.

Posted by: gylangirl | Sep 1 2006 3:53 utc | 60

I have the feeling that Bush’s 9-11 anniversary performance in New York is going be very, very strange. No, he won’t blow his lines, or burst into tears, or massage some woman’s shoulders, but he’s going to be very tense, and his body will yield some weird “linguistic” signals.
The whole affair is going to be dispirited, stiff and overscripted, in part because Bush himself may be over-medicated. Whatever the public on hand, its responses will be bored, boring and toxic. Bush will shrink before our very eyes, and this won’t be fun to see. His handlers, averting their gaze, will be pacing nervously back and forth behind the cameras, and when the speech is finally over, one or another will tell him he did a heck of a job, and he’ll snap right back with a personal sneer of some kind. Talking heads on tv, saying grave things about the gravity of the day’s events, will repeat the same comments over and over again, at a loss to say anything else.
Think of his father, vomiting at that state dinner in China.
Yes, I’m fantasizing here, but this is understandable: because, if our peerless leader doesn’t do his thing well, then Republican morale should drop like the late, lamented Twin Towers, and well before the elections….

Posted by: alabama | Sep 1 2006 4:27 utc | 61

The Reason Malloy Was Fired ?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 1 2006 5:45 utc | 62

Chomsky in The Guardian: Their view of the world is through a bombsight

In Lebanon, a little-honoured truce remains in effect – yet another in a decades-long series of ceasefires between Israel and its adversaries in a cycle that, as if inevitably, returns to warfare, carnage and human misery. Let’s describe the current crisis for what it is: a US-Israeli invasion of Lebanon, with only a cynical pretence to legitimacy. Amid all the charges and counter-charges, the most immediate factor behind the assault is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The basic outlines of a solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict have been supported by a broad international consensus for 30 years: a two-state settlement on the international border, perhaps with minor and mutual adjustments.
The Arab states formally accepted this proposal in 2002, as the Palestinians had long before. Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah has made it clear that though this solution is not Hizbullah’s preference, they will not disrupt it. Iran’s “supreme leader” Ayatollah Khamenei recently reaffirmed that Iran too supports this settlement. Hamas has indicated clearly that it is prepared to negotiate for a settlement in these terms as well.
The US and Israel continue to block this political settlement, as they have done for 30 years, with brief and inconsequential exceptions.

Israeli writer Uri Avnery observed that the Israeli chief of staff Dan Halutz, a former air force commander, “views the world below through a bombsight”. Much the same is true of Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice and other top Bush administration planners. As history reveals, that view of the world is not uncommon among those who wield most of the means of violence.

The core issue – the Israel-Palestine conflict – can be settled by diplomacy, if the US and Israel abandon their rejectionist commitments. Other outstanding problems in the region are also susceptible to negotiation and diplomacy. Their success can never be guaranteed. But we can be reasonably confident that viewing the world through a bombsight will bring further misery and suffering, perhaps even in “apocalyptic terms”.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2006 6:25 utc | 63

More bad news- Fewer Squeaky Frommes on the horizon.

Posted by: biklett | Sep 1 2006 6:33 utc | 64

Dream on?

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Sep 1 2006 7:01 utc | 65

@Gylangirl-
Another reason Alternative Radio is not archived is that Barsamian sells tapes of those programs. It’s broadcast on that station once a week – Thurs. 12-1 (Pacific Time). As you can see from their listing of recent programs, it’s often interesting.
Thanks Uncle for the info. I wondered what happened. Malloy filled in for Randi Rhodes M-W this week. When I tried to tune in to hear him at night – after you turned me onto him w/yr. fairly recent post – all I got was some infomercial. I thought perhaps a new station was interfering w/the local outlet. I had no idea he’d been fired. Bastards. He’s the only reason to listen to Air America, other than Thom Hartmann, who is rarely on. He’s the only sensitive & intelligent human being on AM radio, so I figured his lifespan was short. I don’t know what Tarpley said ‘cuz I fell asleep. I was surprised he had him on. Guess he figured that C-SPAN provided cover, but of all the really interesting reasonable people one could have on to refute the standard comic book tale of 911, Tarpley wouldn’t make my list.
On the other hand, even if Soros is going to fork out $$$ for Air America – choke…vomit, he has a stake in the comic book version of 911 being refuted as it’s the most reliable way to dump the junta.
I can’t imagine where else Mike could get a paying gig in radio, and I was always surprised he took such huge risks since it was the income for both him & his wife…

Posted by: jj | Sep 1 2006 7:24 utc | 66

@ Cloned Poster 65
It would be a nightmare: Why make a martyr out of a war criminal?

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Sep 1 2006 7:28 utc | 67

@ HKOL – That has always been the way I thought he’d be gotten rid of. By his own, of course.

Posted by: beq | Sep 1 2006 12:15 utc | 68

on ward churchill. if you are an academician, take time to read the open letter and do what you can to fight back.
a simple email to vice-provost distefano will help:
Phil.Distefano@Colorado.edu

Posted by: slothrop | Sep 1 2006 15:42 utc | 69

Imagine that British occupation troops in, say, Hanover, had been forced to abandon a major base, under fire, and retreat into guerrilla operations in the Black Forest – in 1948, three years after the fall of the Nazi regime. And that as soon as the Brits made their undignified bug-out, the base had been devoured by looters while the local, Allies-backed authorities simply melted away and an extremist, virulently anti-Western militia moved into the power vacuum.
What would they have called that, Don [Rumsfeld]? “Measurable progress on the road to democracy?” “Another achieved metric of our highly successful post-war plan?” Or would they have said, back in those more plain-spoken, Harry Truman days, that it was “a major defeat, a humiliating strategic reversal, foreshadowing a far greater disaster?”

Chris Floyd points out that the retreat by a major UK force from their base and their inability to hand over the base to the Iraqi government portends dark days for Occupation troops.
All I have to add to the analysis is that the base probably wasn’t handed off because the British officers didn’t think they could trust anyone in the Iraqi military not to give away their retreat plans. With the paucity of information normal in a war, I’d call this proof indisputable that claims to coordination between Iraqi government and Occupation troops are 95% fat, 5% meat.

Posted by: citizen | Sep 1 2006 17:31 utc | 70

re cloned poster’s #65
so whose idea was it to make a shockingly real” television drama in which shrub is shot an an anti-war rally that “quickly focuses on a Syrian-born man”? got a spooky smell about it.

Posted by: b real | Sep 2 2006 4:06 utc | 71

Apparently Mike Malloy explained his pink slip as being purely small potatoes finance on a Sacramento radio show.
Here’s the source for that, bartcop

Hey Bart, I’m listening to Mike talk to our Air America affiliate here in Sacramento…
He said that it WAS a financial decision…one of the big wigs wasn’t seeing a big enough return
on their investment apparantly and was looking to cut expenses (maybe he shoulda tried Haliburton??)
Mike says that that Laura Flanders will be taking over his spot and since Flanders comes with her own sponsors, Air America doesn’t have to pay her…as Mike said, it took them about 7 seconds to make the decisions to can Mike- who was the lowest paid in the bunch by the way…

Posted by: citizen | Sep 2 2006 4:22 utc | 72

Some “types” just make people hysterical. Terrorists. Drug addicts. Sex offenders. And there’s never any blowback politically from being inhumane to them because they are, after all, terrorists, drug addicts and sex offenders. Disappointed because it’s not expedient for you to go kill a Muslim (although, with lowered enlistment standards for the US military, when is it not? No worries. You can dehumanize and retaliate against someone in the comfort of your own community.
The best part is, there’s a limitless supply of subhumans for you to revile, victimize and, if nobody is looking, even get away with killing… they didn’t actually have to commit any crimes and ANYONE can initiate their inclusion on to the ranks of non-people.
Oh, won’t someone think of the children?? Growing up (I won’t say “maturing”) in their secure little fear bubbles like delicate little orchids, unable to live outside of their well-regulated hothouses… waiting to take their places amongst the hate-fueled automatons who shaped them, or else to rebel against all that is good and holy and join the ranks of the subhumans themselves. And the beat goes on.
More personal info than anyone cared to know: I am not a registered sex-offender; that is not why I respond so viscerally and defensively to this kind of news. I was the victim of multiple incidents of sexual abuse as a child and was raped once as an adult. If you even begin to suggest that I “just don’t understand” the perspective of a victim of a sexual assault because I also happen to be male, it will be the last time I respond to you at all.
I am convinced that a sex-offender registry (although, at least this “registry”, unlike the state-secret “no-fly” lists, is a public one) is not only ineffective at reducing victimisations, it actually makes the world less safe by arbitrarily dividing the world into “victims” and “predators”. I won’t even go as far as to say that this system we’re creating is “unjust”… it’s only that in my opinion the world could use a whole hell of a lot more peace and less “justice”.

Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 2 2006 6:22 utc | 73

@Monolycos
Yes this is (one of) our collective Sick-Sick-Sick-Department(s): Where on the one hand beauty pageants for sexed-up six year-old JonBenet Ramseys are wildly popular around the country and where on the other hand a photo of your naked child in a bathtub brings the police and social services to your doorsteps. Most of us have experienced enormous existential hurt growing up that we reflexively push aside because it is “over”. But it keeps coming back: Then all we are left with is the circle of gawking and destroying and secret shame.

Posted by: Guthman Bey | Sep 2 2006 13:49 utc | 74

I’ll have to take that back (about 9/11). It seems that Bush will spend the day visiting all three crash-sites, briefly….

Posted by: alabama | Sep 2 2006 16:41 utc | 75

@Guthman
Wow.
I kicked myself for awhile for letting my rage take over while trying to inform about the nasty and unconstitutional news story that I linked to in #73 above. That it is being test-run in my former home of Ohio made it all the more personal to me, and if I did not feel so strongly that this measure (which is being quietly enacted in exactly the same manner that all our recent erosions of liberty have been enacted) is purely wrong… not just wrong-headed, but antithetical to even the pretense of fair play… then I would not have posted it at all.
The issue is perfectly suited to its purpose… one can not object to the way it is being approached without touching on the specific aspects about it that nobody wants to defend. Honestly, nobody even wants to talk about them. Stigmatising one’s enemies with allegations of sexual misconduct is so beautifully Rovian, Rumsfeldian… it stifles the rational part of the human imagination in ways that neither the “war on drugs” nor the “war on terror” could begin to. A drug addict is weak… a terrorist is contemptible… but a person painted with the brush of a sex offense… well, they have suddenly become a different species. They are as far removed from “decent folk” as a rock or a tree, and even a half-hearted defense of them raises the danger of ostracism for the defender. This, then, is the perfect tool to use to enforce conformity. Ironically, that is what these policies are specifically aimed to achieve (whether intentionally or unconsciously)… they produce (and let’s be clear on this point, it is a process of active manufacture) aberrations to serve as tangible symbols by which the rest of “decent society” may define themselves.
It has only been within the last six months or so that I have begun to personalize my postings here with extraneous information about who I am and why I respond to things the way that I do. Part of it is shame, as you mentioned… another part of it is fear. In an odd way, I am very much afraid that exposing my frailties will make me less a human being to my colleagues here; as though it is easier to make me into a two-dimensional novelty in the minds of others when they have more, rather than less, information about me. Having been thrust into many unwanted roles throughout the course of my life, I have adopted a “there, but for the grace of God” attitude regarding social deviants. That, and I can shrug off a scattershot ad hominem attack on my character when we are dealing with impersonal issues… a hurtful remark that actually touches my wounds, on the other hand, is not something that I can see myself dealing with very well.
Really, this is not the place for autobiographies. We are a community, of course, but we are a community of people working towards a common understanding of larger issues. We are friendly co-workers out for a drink at the end of the working day, ruminating about how best to solve problems that are common and collective. Personal problems do not fit well into that schema, especially personal problems that prohibit us from analysing our world in a calm and objective way.
But I have those personal problems, and as you mentioned, they do keep coming back no matter how often I console myself that my existential wounds are “over”. I never quite came to grips with where that was coming from, but your brief statement “Most of us have experienced enormous existential hurt growing up that we reflexively push aside because it is “over”. But it keeps coming back: Then all we are left with is the circle of gawking and destroying and secret shame” spoke to my deepest, most vulnerable soul. It made me understand something I have missed for many years.
I do not rage against individual abusers. I rage against the cycle of events that perpetuates this misery. I rage against the “authorities” who, by their policies, make it inevitable that some are forced into the role of “abusers” and others as “victims”. I rage against the “good and decent folk” who consent to and perpetuate this system with their simplistic dichotomies of “good” and “bad”, “man” and “woman”, “weak” and “strong”, “predator” and “prey”, all the while giving support to the hypocritical lie that they oppose those kinds of things. On the contrary, they absolutely depend upon them! Without their criminals (whom the media manufactures with television shows like “America’s Most Wanted” or the latest scandalous mega-trial), they have no identity as law-abiding citizens. Without monsters, they have no identity as human beings… so it is incumbent upon them to maintain a culture that is essentially a monster-manufacturing assembly line. That is the sociological purpose of beauty pageants, “reality” TV, conspicuous consumerism and just about every other hateful facet of our lives.
And I hate their absurd, self-referential identities more with every human life I see them casually consume with their mock indignation. Je suis l’etranger, and I do not want to be a card-carrying member of a society that is fueled by fossils and human lives. Yes, I am fucking angry. I have never made my peace with this.

Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 3 2006 8:37 utc | 76