Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 17, 2006
OT 06-78

Other topics …
and a link to the older OT.

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I’m working up an initial post for teh study group I proposed yesterday, but it’ll have to hold till tomorrow – family duties. The basic idea is to study teh heritage we have to draw on when we try to create humane politics. And we’ll start with Murray Bookchin. Beyond that, I’m open to suggestion, and very excited about the prospect of studying with you good folks.
I should mention that I see this as something we do here in virtual space, but also a study time that is designed to help us set up similar study groups in teh actual places we live, and so provide another layer of resources to our physical communities.
When I post here, I will cross post at Le Speakeasy, because I think that environment will give us the necessary pace and rhythm to explore in a bit of depth.
In the meantime, check out b real’s link from the old OT thread on a key contribution made by Bookchin.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 17 2006 4:42 utc | 1

If I may follow citizens interesting concrete suggestion w/the usual stuff at a distance…Anyone who hasn’t been by Juan Cole’s place lately to read his post of CIA Arabic Analyst (ret) Ray Close’s take on probabilities on Iran, Definitely Should

Posted by: jj | Aug 17 2006 4:57 utc | 2

And Finally some more Open Revolt by Generals & Foreign Service Officers – people who actually know something…
WASHINGTON — Seeking to counter the White House’s depiction of its Middle East policies as crucial to the prevention of terrorist attacks at home, 21 former generals, diplomats and national security officials will release an open letter tomorrow (*Thurs*) arguing that the administration’s “hard line” has actually undermined U.S. security. link

Posted by: jj | Aug 17 2006 5:06 utc | 3

Massa Bush is calling for the imaginary army of UNIFIL troopers to seal the Syrian border when they arrive in southern Lebanon.
As if. Sealing that border would be impossible for a force ten times the size of what may eventually arrive. Maybe. Some day. Perhaps.
He’s just setting up tripwires for escalating the fighting. Because America needs more fighting.
Because as long as “the American way of life is not negotiable,”
America needs to conquer Iran to gain control over the Middle East’s oil, to gain control over who buys it, at what price, and in whose currency.
America needs to conquer Iran to then gain control of the Caspian Basin and its gas and oil resources.
Yep, America needs a Four Front War over there.
Or, America needs to change, in some very fundamental ways.
Ray Close left China and Russia out of his analysis. China will not permit America to conquer Iran. They may permit America to attack Iran, but never to conquer it.
The Generals in the Pentagon know this. They won’t follow Bush into the heart of darkness.

Posted by: Antifa | Aug 17 2006 7:11 utc | 4

citizen, I did follow your link via b real to Bookchin. I welcome your suggestion to pay attention to solid behavior. I do look at http://lespeakeasy.org from time to time and will try to follow your thread.
If there are more secondary sources, let’s keep it down to one or two so we don’t get off track. Lespeakeasy is waiting for you!

Posted by: jonku | Aug 17 2006 10:16 utc | 5

Question:
How many MOA’s have given any thought to contingency plans in the case that Moon of Alabama goes down? I fully expect that when the war on Iran starts, there will also be an all out domestic American assault on the dissident Internet blogs as well. I have asked in semi-recent posts /comments of b, if he has any plans to mirror moon, but I guess he has not seen my posts.
It would be of comfort to me if there were discussion of this very real possible dilemma, and for those whom –such as myself– do not broadcast their e-mail under their name, where do you hang out, especially our non-American friends. Any ideals on networking if in fact one day we can’t meet at the bar?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 17 2006 11:39 utc | 6

Uncle: I suppose some would by default go over to Atrios or Kos to try to find some other lost barflies, and try to figure out where to go from there. Though my best bet would be to go to the Eurotrib and the Speakeasy, where the proportion of “Moonies” should be quite higher. Then, if Billmon’s site is hosted in US by US firm, I suppose Bernhard’s Moon is probably hosted in Germany by some German provider – it can be hacked, but some US administration gone nut would have a harder time to actually go after it legally, if it’s what you fear.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Aug 17 2006 12:33 utc | 7

Moon is hosted in the US and currently I don´t want to spend the money to host an alternative site.

Posted by: b | Aug 17 2006 13:23 utc | 8

no need to spend money.
just leverage the existing saturn-sized, tennybopper infrasctructure:
http://www.myspace.com/stalinistfruitcakexxxooo
.

Posted by: bianco | Aug 17 2006 13:41 utc | 9

i have wondered about this uncle. i would suggest at a minimum everyone share their email address w/at least one other patron from the bar.

Posted by: annie | Aug 17 2006 14:40 utc | 10

any word on r’giap’s sitch? is he lacking a working computer at this time?

Posted by: b real | Aug 17 2006 14:44 utc | 11

I understand that r’giap has been ill lately. He and I traded e-mails last week. I thought he was getting better, but I’m afraid he may have taken a turn for the worst. It’s certainly not like him to remain silent in the face of outrages like those of the past couple of weeks, and, like many of us here at MoA, I miss his insights sorely, even if I don’t always agree with them. Except, more and more, I do.

Posted by: Aigin | Aug 17 2006 14:53 utc | 12

I understand that r’giap has been ill lately. He and I traded e-mails last week. I thought he was getting better, but I’m afraid he may have taken a turn for the worst. It’s certainly not like him to remain silent in the face of outrages like those of the past couple of weeks, and, like many of us here at MoA, I miss his insights sorely, even if I don’t always agree with them. Except, more and more, I do.

Posted by: Aigin | Aug 17 2006 14:53 utc | 13

Ellen Schrecker’s McCarthyite Crusade
Professor Ellen Schrecker @ YESHIVA University does a course on the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC), entitled: American Inquisition, the era of McCarthyism. Which has been a godsend in alot of my personal research, recently she had this article published that I thought many would find interesting.

Among the odder charges advanced by bien pensant defenders of the political homogeneity in American higher education is the claim that advocates of greater intellectual pluralism are really revivalists of Cold-War era “McCarthyism.” Its leading academic exponent is Ellen Schrecker, a professor of history at Yeshiva University. But Schrecker goes further. In the current issue of the Chronicle of Higher Education, she asserts that the campaign to promote academic freedom–and particularly the Academic Bill of Rights–is actually “worse than McCarthyism.”

more here…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 17 2006 14:58 utc | 14

I emailed R’Giap over the weekend and have not heard back. I have been worried but haven’t gotten home early enough this week to call him with the time difference. However, I am planning to call him tomorrow and if I do not reach him I will call a colleague to find out what is happening with him. I am crossing my fingers and hoping for the best.
Regarding his computer, I have also told him that I will send him my laptop as soon as I have a purchased a new one – hopefully within the next couple of weeks. If anyone wants to help with this effort, I know he will need a larger monitor to work with – it is only a 12″.

Posted by: conchita | Aug 17 2006 15:38 utc | 15

I emailed R’Giap over the weekend and have not heard back. I have been worried but haven’t gotten home early enough this week to call him with the time difference. However, I am planning to call him tomorrow and if I do not reach him I will call a colleague to find out what is happening with him. I am crossing my fingers and hoping for the best.
Regarding his computer, I have also told him that I will send him my laptop as soon as I have a purchased a new one – hopefully within the next couple of weeks. If anyone wants to help with this effort, I know he will need a larger monitor to work with – it is only a 12″.

Posted by: conchita | Aug 17 2006 15:38 utc | 16

apologies for the double post.

Posted by: conchita | Aug 17 2006 15:42 utc | 17

I can’t vouch for this piece’s veracity (it is only a forum post after all), but it sounds genuine enough. So here it is FWIW:
Interview with Chris Cook, planner of the Iranian Oil Bourse
No major breaking news, but contains good background info on a variety of subjects including Cook’s work on community based investment in renewable energy.

Posted by: Alamet | Aug 17 2006 15:45 utc | 18

right on, citizen

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 17 2006 16:41 utc | 19

Liquid Explosives

Once the plane is over the ocean, very discreetly bring all of your gear into the toilet. You might need to make several trips to avoid drawing attention. Once your kit is in place, put a beaker containing the peroxide / acetone mixture into the ice water bath (Champagne bucket), and start adding the acid, drop by drop, while stirring constantly. Watch the reaction temperature carefully. The mixture will heat, and if it gets too hot, you’ll end up with a weak explosive. In fact, if it gets really hot, you’ll get a premature explosion possibly sufficient to kill you, but probably no one else.
After a few hours – assuming, by some miracle, that the fumes haven’t overcome you or alerted passengers or the flight crew to your activities – you’ll have a quantity of TATP with which to carry out your mission. Now all you need to do is dry it for an hour or two.
The genius of this scheme is that TATP is relatively easy to detonate. But you must make enough of it to crash the plane, and you must make it with care to assure potency. One needs quality stuff to commit “mass murder on an unimaginable scale,” as Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Stephenson put it. While it’s true that a slapdash concoction will explode, it’s unlikely to do more than blow out a few windows. At best, an infidel or two might be killed by the blast, and one or two others by flying debris as the cabin suddenly depressurizes, but that’s about all you’re likely to manage under the most favorable conditions possible.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 17 2006 17:30 utc | 21

The future is Orange:
Inigo Wilson is a rancid, braying little tick. But I defend his right to be so. If only he was as funny as he and his swollen crew of bandwagon jumpers thought he was.
That said, if we’re going to rail against the Government’s attempts to police what we think and say then we also have to decry others attempting to do so. For the MPAC to play the man (by trying to get him sacked) rather than the worthless dross he’s peddling is like trying to catch the fish in the barrel with your teeth rather than taking a shotgun to them.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 17 2006 17:35 utc | 22

anyone in touch w/ rgiap pls give him my best wishes for full recovery

Posted by: Dismal Science | Aug 17 2006 17:43 utc | 23

anyone in touch w/ rgiap pls give him my best wishes for full recovery

Posted by: Dismal Science | Aug 17 2006 17:44 utc | 24

Best wishes to R’giap also. I love the passion in his words regardless of what his point is/that said, I agree with more or less all that he says.
I think the Communist (the Lenin Model) Project will take hold as soon as oil from the ME runs out/gets blocked.
Witness the huge profits and bonuses these days for multinationals… they are taking the cash while they can.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 17 2006 17:59 utc | 25

With regards to b’s #20
U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor
Here’s the opinion [PDF]

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 17 2006 18:02 utc | 26

Yes, best wishes from this corner too.
@citizen #1:
While my time appears to be limited these days, I’m definitely interested in the studygroup. I consider Bookchin to be among the 10 top minds of the past century in elucidating the structure of our world, and perhaps the foremost in his prescriptions for a viable future.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 17 2006 19:11 utc | 27

w/regards to b’s, #20 and my #26
From CNN’s continuing coverage:
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, said he backs the government’s appeal of the ruling.
Terrorists are the real threat to our constitutional and democratic freedoms, not the law enforcement and intelligence tools used to keep America safe,” Frist said in a statement.
“We need to strengthen, not weaken, our ability to foil terrorist plots before they can do us harm. I encourage swift appeal by the government and quick reversal of this unfortunate decision.”
[emphasis mine]
Chancellor Sutler, er, I mean Skeletor Chertoff is not pleased nor amused.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 17 2006 20:12 utc | 28

Engineered grass found growing in wild

Grass that was genetically engineered for golf courses is growing in the wild, posing one of the first threats of agricultural biotechnology escaping from the farm in the United States, a new study says.
Creeping bentgrass was engineered to resist the popular herbicide Roundup to allow more efficient weed control on golf courses. But the modified grass could spread that resistance to the wild, becoming a nuisance itself, scientists say.

Posted by: b real | Aug 17 2006 23:09 utc | 29

geneticists to people of earth: don’t worry, everything is under control.
maybe they could engineer an “engineered grass”-eating cow that defecates a potent herbicide to kill the engineered grass.
no job too dirty for a fucking scientist.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 17 2006 23:52 utc | 30

posing one of the first threats of agricultural biotechnology escaping from the farm in the United States
Hardly. In fact there is no uncomtaminated corn left in the whole world. Other GMO crops have been spreading assiduously.
But the modified grass could spread that resistance to the wild
That’s the point. Then we are all dependent on four corporations for new seedstock for crops.
It’s all so cynical, if it were in a sci-fi novel from fifty years back, no one would believe it.
ADM, supermarket mafia don to the world.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 0:54 utc | 31

Never heard of Oust, Paraquat,Poast, Vantage. and numerous other agricultural and industrial chemicals.
You folks are so Ancien Regime in understanding 4th Generation Agricultural wars.
Roundup has become a generic, now that the patent has run, 2+ years ago. Very cheap, hundreds of makers.
Your analysis is reductionist and utterly passe.
Better Living Through Chemistry.

Posted by: E.I. DuPont | Aug 18 2006 1:20 utc | 32

Bets that the asshole @#32 is a professional troll!
I heard an interview w/Percy Schmeiser in which he said that monsanto admitted that since they couldn’t sell their toxic genetically mutilated seeds, they’d have to resort to contamination. The bastards need to be sued til they’re bankrupt. I don’t know why citizens groups haven’t pressured institutional shareholders to dump their stock.

Posted by: jj | Aug 18 2006 2:51 utc | 33

Study Group at LeSpeakeasy
and a prayer for rememberinggiap’s health
Listen, Marxist!: a proposed text for study.
Okay, let me just start by confessing nervousness. I’ve only been reading Bookchin since b real recommended him, and already I’ve learned more than I thought I could, like why to be grateful to Hegel (more on that in another session). For now, I want to acknowledge Maloogafs statement that Bookchin is one of the 10 most valuable thinkers of the last century, thank b real again for pointing him out, and invite everyone to examine a truly fruitful writer, a writer who can make clear things we want to grasp, and things we urgently want to explain.
Another initial point: Bookchin is the text, but really my goal here is to figure out how to run a study group online that would actually better prepare a number of barflies (and especially me) to actually do the same in the actual communities we live in in meatspace. It seems we get the politics wefre willing to accept, so my idea here is to raise our expectations of what we might want to develop and create in our social lives.
So, Bookchin is the first source for us to study because he offers a reasonable account of how to get unstuck from expectations that the world wonft change, and of how to reject an increasingly persuasive but irrational framework/perspective that leaves us exposed, exposed especially to fear and propaganda. Why would people take up with such a vulnerable approach? Because we know that conventional reasoning is inadequate, that contradictory thinfgs can both be true. So we reject conventional reason on solid grounds. However, Bookchin can show us that conventional reasoning is not the only kind available, and that to actually make sense of things that change over time, to make sense, that is, of history, our only reasonable approach is dialectical reasoning. Unfortunately, dialectical reasoning has earned a heavy debt of suspicion as being a kind of fetish of the left, a reputation as an illusion that is useful only among fools.
Untrashing the Reputation of Dialectical Reasoning
Before we can use this kind of thinking safely, then, we have to clear up some misconceptions about dialectical thinking, misconceptions fostered by a long process of branding from both left and right. And for that task, I have nominated Bookchinfs Listen, Marxist! as a spirited text that can remind us to re-evaluate the history of the left, free ourselves from what false legends of past glory, and continue to seek the just politics that should define left politics.
I’m not sure how many have already read the text, but I found it refreshing to read as a warning against the notion that wefve deteriorated since the 60s, that we might need to wax nostalgic about better times. A few quotes, with brief comments, to get our conversation rolling:
Keep Developing

This pursuit of security in the past, this attempt to find a haven in a fixed dogma and an organizational hierarchy as substitutes for creative thought and praxis is bitter evidence of how little many revolutionaries are capable of “revolutionizing themselves and things,” much less of revolutionizing society as a whole.

Here, we are reminded that there is no escaping work, not just the work of figuring something out for the first time, but the work of re-formulating this understanding again and again as it applies to different people and problems. Wefll even have to change our minds occasionally because everything that we reckoned by can gradually shift meaning over time. For me, it comes as a relief to hear intelligent affirmation that all that 60s heritage of thought and actions is not some sort of ritual to repeat endlessly.
Intelligent affirmation? Yes, particularly the idea that the world has been changing, and therefore a praxis that develops the good potential in the world must also keep developing to work what faces us.

We believe that Marxism has ceased to be applicable to our time not because it is too visionary or revolutionary, but because it is not visionary or revolutionary enough. . . .
. . .We are asked to establish political parties, centralized organizations, “revolutionary” hierarchies and elites, and a new state at a time when political institutions as such are decaying and when centralizing, elitism and the state are being brought into question on a scale that has never occurred before in the history of hierarchical society. . . .
. . . We have seen capitalism itself perform many of the tasks (including the development of a technology of abundance) which were regarded as socialist; we have seen it “nationalize” property, merging the economy with the state wherever necessary. We have seen the working class neutralized as the “agent of revolutionary change,” albeit still struggling with a bourgeois framework for more wages, shorter hours and “fringe” benefits. The class struggle in the classical sense has not disappeared; it has suffered a more deadening fate by being co-opted into capitalism.

A lot of this may seem old and outmoded, especially Bookchin’s hypothesis (not quoted here) that the revolutionary subject was young people of all classes, and the reactionary subject old people. But I imagine that he is dead on to assert that capitalism has co-opted the class struggle as originally envisioned by Marx. I imagine that he is also dead on to say that centralization, elitism, and the state are all traps that will swallow and digest idealists and their initial goals. If we want to continue to develop the rich potential of left politics, then we will have to keep building the communities that achieve politics for human beings.
State Capitalism: it’s Not Just for Soviets Anymore

By an incredible irony of history, Marxian “socialism” turns out to be in large part the very state capitalism that Marx failed to anticipate in the dialectic of capitalism.

And, I would like to add, American state capitalism as it is envisioned by the neo-pirates, is just the latest version of the Soviet swindle: hi-jacking more and more of what were once gpublich resources and spinning them off to whoever gets an in to the state feeding trough.
My goal in this conversation is to remind ourselves that State solutions may no longer be possible at all, and to navigate from there to consider some directions for where we might want to put our energies. Feel free to disagree, but if you do, let’s use the text as the common focus of our discussion.
What’s next?
[Next session, I plan to use Bookchin texts again to suggest how to grapple with the perspective of chaos capitalism, but oppose and overcome its irrationalities. This may require us to take up Moishe Postone as well. ]
Please post at at LeSpeakeasy if you want to participate in a longer, slower conversation.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 18 2006 3:09 utc | 34

P.S. when I said that “State solutions may no longer be possible at all”
I meant
“the state, un-herded by community organizations (or other left political solutions), may no longer be a means to solve anything”

Posted by: citizen | Aug 18 2006 3:18 utc | 35

wow. thanks for the work, citizen. i’m bloody busy, but will devote some time to this. seriously, this is a great opportunity. I also suggest his magnum opus social ecology.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 18 2006 3:32 utc | 36

according to anna lappe’s book, grub: ideas for an urban organic kitchen, using the latest avail figures, dated june 2005, the percentage of gmo crops in the u.s. runs

Eighty-five percent of the soy grown in the United States is now genetically modified, as is 76 percent of the cotton, more than 75 percent of the canola, and 40 percent of the corn.

“gmo’s are now found in as much as 70 percent of processed foods in our supermarkets.”

A hundred years ago we had 7,000 apple varities; today, more than 85 percent of them have become extinct. We’ve also lost more than 90 percent of the varities of lettuce and corn. Today, almost all of our milk comes from one breed of cows, most of our eggs from a single strain of hens.

[insert]
timely, relevant bookchin quote:

“Modern society, in effect, is disassembling the biotic complexity achieved by aeons of organic evolution. The great movement of life from fairly simple to increasingly complex forms and relations is being ruthlessly reversed in the direction of an environment that will be able to support only simpler living things.”

(welcome to the age of bush. our new ubermensch?)
and, speaking of slime, be sure to check out this article – A Primeval Tide of Toxins – in case you missed it a couple of weeks ago

Runoff from modern life is feeding an explosion of primitive organisms. This ‘rise of slime,’ as one scientist calls it, is killing larger species and sickening people.

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finally, moving from our living economy to our pretend economy, here are some other alarming figure from grub:

In meat… the four largest beef processors control 84 percent of the market, pork manufacturers control 64 percent, and poultry manufacturers 56 percent.
In food processing… the four largest companies process 63 percent of flour and 80 percent of soybeans.
In commercial seeds… founr companies – Cargill, Monsanto, Novartis, and ADM – control 80 percent of the market.
In GMO seeds… roughly 90 percent of the market is controlled by one company, Monsanto.
In pesticides… six companies – BASF, Bayer, Dow, DuPont, Monsanto, and Syngenta – control between 75 and 80 percent of the world pesticides market. That’s half the number of ten years ago.
In retail food sales… the top five supermarkets now control almost half of retail sales, almost double what their market share was five years ago. Wal-Mart, which entered the food sales market only fifteen years ago, now collects roughly one out of three of our food dollars.

“Nearly half of ADM’s annual profit comes from products subsidized by our taxpayer dollars or protected by the U.S. government.”

Posted by: b real | Aug 18 2006 3:36 utc | 37

slothrop,
I’ve read the intro to The Philosophy of Social Ecology: Essays on Dialectical Naturalism and will get through more this weekend. Is that teh text you mean? It’s where I fond my Hegel surprise – very exciting read!
I appreciate any response you can make on Bookchin. Thanks.
b real,
A friend of mine who went to the frog exhibit at Chicago’s Museum of Science and Industry says the reason frogs are dying off is that the molds in the waters are no longer getting killed off as much by bright sunny days (fewer of those lately), so they multiply, and kill the frogs. Slime. . .

Posted by: citizen | Aug 18 2006 3:57 utc | 38

thanks, citizen. just printed the text out & will spend time w/ it tomorrow.

Posted by: b real | Aug 18 2006 3:59 utc | 39

That was an exc. 5-day series on the Oceans b real linked to (in LA Times). Horrifying.
Don’t know why this shows up in German Press rather than NYT (but I can probably hazard a good guess…), but here is Jimmy Carter shredding xUS ME policy in spiegel
The other principle that I described in the book is basic justice. We’ve never had an administration before that so overtly and clearly and consistently passed tax reform bills that were uniquely targeted to benefit the richest people in our country at the expense or the detriment of the working families of America.
SPIEGEL: You also mentioned the hatred for the United States throughout the Arab world which has ensued as a result of the invasion of Iraq. Given this circumstance, does it come as any surprise that Washington’s call for democracy in the Middle East has been discredited?
Carter: No, as a matter of fact, the concerns I exposed have gotten even worse now with the United States supporting and encouraging Israel in its unjustified attack on Lebanon.

SPIEGEL: But wasn’t Israel the first to get attacked?
Carter: I don’t think that Israel has any legal or moral justification for their massive bombing of the entire nation of Lebanon. What happened is that Israel is holding almost 10,000 prisoners, so when the militants in Lebanon or in Gaza take one or two soldiers, Israel looks upon this as a justification for an attack on the civilian population of Lebanon and Gaza. I do not think that’s justified, no.

Posted by: jj | Aug 18 2006 4:17 utc | 40

Jürgen Elsässer: “The CIA recruited and trained the jihadists”

Silvia Cattori: It says in your book: “Terrorism exists in Kosovo and Macedonia, but in its majority it is not controled by Ben Laden but by US intelligence.” Do you doubt the existence of Al Qaeda?
Jürgen Elsässer: Yes, as I wrote it in my book, it is propaganda manufactured by the west.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2006 4:45 utc | 41

Screw these rabid warmongers. But then I’m not terribly excited w/the prospect of watching xUS & Israel commit national suicide! (From the Jerusalem Post, to which I don’t care to link, on 2nd thought.)
The United States intends to move very quickly in early September to impose UN sanctions on Iran for refusing to suspend its enrichment of uranium, a senior State Department official said Thursday.
“They will be well-deserved,” Under-Secretary of State Nicholas Burns told reporters. “It’s not a mystery to the Iranians what is going to happen.”
The UN Security Council already has said Iran faced sanctions if it did not suspend uranium enrichment, a key step in making nuclear weapons.
Iran has until the end of the month to respond officially. It also had said it would reply by next Tuesday to a proposal by the United States and the European Union for concessions that include US supply of some civilian nuclear energy.

Posted by: jj | Aug 18 2006 4:54 utc | 42

DHS’s CyberStorm

–Recognizing the imminent threat hippies and assorted leftists obviously pose to us all, a massive cyber terror simulation (international and involving 115 organizations) recently came to light: …The attack scenario detailed in the presentation is a meticulously plotted parade of cyber horribles led by a “well financed” band of leftist radicals who object to U.S. imperialism, aided by sympathetic independent actors. At the top of the pyramid is the Worldwide Anti-Globalization Alliance, which sets things off by calling for cyber sit-ins and denial-of-service attacks against U.S. interests. WAGA’s radical arm, the villainous Black Hood Society, ratchets up the tension on day one by probing SCADA computerized control systems and military networks …

WAR GAMES…what’s the metanarrative here?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2006 5:04 utc | 43

Wow! Great work, citizen. This kind of endeavor is much more attractive to me than examining photos to see who is standing closest to dear leader today.
I have to confess that I really can’t think of anyone better to study than Bookchin. We are already quite familiar here with the ideas of Zinn on learning to differentiate our interests from the ruling classes and understanding history through viewpoint; Chomsky and Hermann on power, propaganda, and thought control; Klein and Chatterjee on corporations; Roy, Shiva, Wallach and others on globalization; Debord, Baudrillard and Knabb on appearances; through my writing, Wallerstein and Frank on economics and world systems theory; Glendening, Zerzan, Churchill and others on primitivism and indigenism; and so many other thinkers and theorists. But Bookchin is different: His work both encompasses all those that I have mentioned, and contextualizes it; he lays a groundwork for examining other work and provides us with criteria for judging its applicability in the ever-changing ecological world in which we find ourselves.
And yet, his work is not naive; nor is it rigid. Throughout his life, Bookchin struggled with theory and its applicability to the demands of quotidian life. Any idealism is tempered with a deep and abiding realism. And Murray was never afraid to change his theories when they did not measure up to the real world. There will not be a “Bookchinism” like there is a Marxism, to be argued over for centuries. Rather, the words of Bucky Fuller well describe the voyage that was Murray Bookchin, when he observed, “I seem to be a verb.”
Many people have been influenced by his work, including many who I named above. As I noted earlier, his ecological insights pre-dated Rachel Carson. By providing us with a theoretical framework for modeling all of Marxist dialectics within the larger sphere of the ecological environment, he both updated and radically changed Marxist thinking, to the point where today virtually all Marxists from the academic, like Ohlmann, to the political, like Avakian, take his insights on interrelatedness, and the ecological limits to production, for granted.
His work at the Institute for Social Ecology has nurtured a new generation of teachers to further advance the work. For instance, one instructor at the institute, Brian Tokar, has been very active in the fight against GMO foods and corporate agriculture. To tie in with b real’s post above, and debs is dead’s post of several days ago, I just finished reading the expanded Spring edition of the Northeast Organic Farmer Journal, which was devoted to the corporatization of Organic Agriculture. The work of several people who studied at the Institute is featured. The past ten years have seen a literal invasion of organics by corporate interests. The great names of the past, Arrowhead Mills, Walnut Acres, and so many others have lost their leaders, for whom OG was a way of life, of sustainability, and are now just “brands.” Many other OG farmers who I knew and trusted, like the Pavitch family, have gone bust. Instead of sustainability as a way of interacting with our environment, the way corporations interact is by the lust for ever expanding growth. Our retail food brands are being consolidated under the umbrellas of huge corporations like Nestle, and Pepsi.
One should also acknowledge some of Bookchin’s more unlikely influences. One who gets too little credit these days in Buckminster Fuller. Fuller, who like Gore Vidal, was raised to be a “ruler of the world,” understood how the world works, understood the interplay of class, and also understood the finite nature of the planet Earth. Perhaps he was far more optimistic than Bookchin, but that was more a factor of his tireless scientific search for solutions, than any facile Pollyanaism.
Well, that’s a few thoughts from me. I’m not a big fan of Postone (I trashed him in a post last week), but we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Again, thanks so much citizen, for doing all this work to get the ball rolling.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 5:07 utc | 44

Iran shells Iraq’s northern frontier
Things just get more interesting all the time…looks like a pressure tactic to push the U.S./Iraq to get control of the situation regarding the PKK rebels.

Posted by: Rick Happ | Aug 18 2006 5:18 utc | 45

I know we had this tedious debate last week about whether we should support religious muslims who were fighting US domination. I think Nassrallah provides the answer:
The Nasrallah Interview

From an interview conducted shortly before the ceasefire by reporters from the Turkish Labor Party daily, Evrensel.
Q. What is the current state of your relations with the Socialist movement?
Hasan Nasrallah: The socialist movement, which has been away from international struggle for a considerable time, at last has begun to offer moral support for us once again. The most concrete example of this has been Hugo Chavez, the President of Venezuela. What most of the Muslim states could not do has been done by Chavez, by the withdrawal of Venezuela’s ambassador to Israel. He furthermore communicated to us his support for our resistance. This has been an immense source of moral strength for us.
We can observe a similar reaction within the Turkish Revolutionary Movement. We had socialist brothers from Turkey who went to Palestine in 1960s to fight against Israel. And one of them still remains in my memory and my heart; Deniz Gezmis..!
[Deniz Gezmis, 1947-1972, was a Turkish revolutionary in the Marxist-Leninist tradition. He led major student actions in the late 1960s, went to a Fatah training camp in Lebanon in late 1969, returned to Turkey where his group seized four US army privates in Ankara. After their release of the soldiers, Gezmis was captured, tried for attempting to overthrow the Turkish state and, with two of his comrades, was hanged in the central prison in Ankara on May 6, 1972. Editors.]
Q. What is the importance of Denizs for you?
Hasan Nasrallah: We now want new Denizs. Our ranks are always open to new Denizs against the oppressors. Deniz will always live in the hearts of the peoples of Palestine and Lebanon. No-one should doubt this. Unfortunately, there is no longer a common fight and fraternity against the common enemy left over by the Denizs. What we would have liked is for our socialist brothers in Lebanon to fight against imperialism and Zionism shoulder to shoulder. This fight is not only our fight. It is the common fight of all those oppressed across the world. Don’t forget that if the peoples of Palestine and Lebanon lose this war, this will mean the defeat of all the oppressed people of the world. In our fight against imperialism, the revolutionaries should also undertake a responsibility and should become, in the hearts of our people of Palestine and Lebanon, Denizs once again.
Q. It is possible to see the posters of Che, Chavez and Ahmadinejad side by side in the streets of Beirut. Are these the signs of a new polarization?
Hasan Nasrallah: We salute the leaders and the peoples of Latin America. They have resisted the American bandits heroically and have been a source of moral strength for us. They are guiding the way for the oppressed peoples. Go and wonder around our streets..! You will witness how our people have embraced Chavez and Ernesto Che Guevara. Nearly in every house, you will come across posters of Che or Chavez.
What we are saying to our socialist friends who want fight together with us for fraternity and freedom is: Do not come at all if you are going to say “Religion is an opiate”. We do not agree with this analysis. Here is the biggest proof of this in our streets with the pictures of Chavez, Che, Sadr and Khamenei together. These leaders are saluting our people in unison. So long as we respect your beliefs, and you respect ours, there is no imperialist power we cannot defeat! …
We uphold global resistance against global imperial terrorism…
Peace cannot be unilateral. So long as there is imperialism in the world, a permanent peace is impossible. This war will not come to an end as long as there are occupations in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 5:22 utc | 46

“You can safely assume that you have created God in your own image, when it turns out that he or she hates all the same people that you do.” – Anne Lamont
“What is at stake is the evolution of nature and survival of people, our food sovereignty and food freedom, integrity of creation and our food systems based on the evolutionary freedom of nature and democratic freedoms of farmers and consumers. The choice before us is bio-imperialism or bio-democracy. Will a few corporations have a dictatorship over our governments, our knowledge and information, our lives and all life on the planet or will we as members of the Earth family liberate ourselves and all species from the prison of patents and genetic engineering?” — Vandana Shiva
“Over the past two decades every issue I have been engaged in as an ecological activist and organic intellectual has revealed that what the industrial economy calls “growth” is really a form of theft from nature and people.” – Vandana Shiva

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 5:30 utc | 47

One last thought for the night:
The war in Lebanon created 7 billion dollars worth of damage. Add in the damage in Israel, and the cost of the armaments themselves, and you have a toal cost of perhaps 10 Billion dollars, about what we spend in a month and a half in Iraq and Afghanistan.
A lot of money. In fact, it amounts to about $300M/day, over a month.
Now, OPEC alone, exports 40MBPD of oil. If oil were to go up by less than $8/Barrel over the cost of the month, the profits alone would pay for the war.
Of course, the profits made by the weapons manufacturers and the huge rebuilding conglomerates, and the NGOs are all in addition to this. As well as the profits from all other energy producers, which also rise accordingly.
In fact, analysts generally agree that oil carries a security premium of $15-20/Barrel due to the war in Iraq alone. This translates to an additional profit of $600 Million per day for the OPEC nations, or $2 1/2 Trillion per year, or $10 Trillion for the entirety of the four year war. Saudi Arabia, as the largest oil exporter, would have earned 1/4 of that total in ADDITIONAL profits over and above its standard profit.
Perhaps $300 Million of that surplus profit finds its way back to the G-8, Israel and China in the form of military purchases.
So war can be very profitable.
It is only the public that pays.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 5:59 utc | 48

Support a MaleMuslim Theocrat – Malooga, get some sleep, please. You’re off your supports…We should support them about the same time we support these Sewer Rats

Posted by: jj | Aug 18 2006 6:29 utc | 49

MSM now openly speculating this could be a “false confession.” Sounds like a distraction from the very real circumstantial evidence against the Ramseys. Ex-wife gives alibi for JonBenet suspect.
That being sd, I speculated else where, that this seemed to be the begining of a falseflag distraction. But from what I didn’t know; I know now. Bush nailed by the court. Bingo! perfect timing…
This from another board I visit:

So as I watched the various news channels and their coverage of this new development, and it was mentioned that the alleged killer of JonBenet was corresponding with a colorado professor and documentary maker, Michael Tracey, I started to wonder what else Professor Michael Tracey does when he’s not corresponding with alleged paedophile child killers…
By now we are all aware that he’s made some documentaries trying to support the Ramsey’s innocence, based around the media not being fair to them, but what else?
There’s this:
http://www.cjc-online.ca/viewarticle.php?id=306&layout=htmlWhich he co-authored in defense of television’s generification effects on various cultures of the world.
and then there’s this:

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/co…ticle6.htm
Which seems to offer some very weird alternative explanations of what is going on with the AIDS virus.
His profile from http://www.colorado.edu/journalism/faculty/bios/tracey.html
Professor Michael Tracey, an internationally recognized researcher and scholar, came to CU in 1988 from England, where he was head of the Broadcasting Research Unit in London, Britain’s leading think tank dealing with media issues. He has served as special adviser to the BBC’s Community Programmes Unit, consultant to a variety of organizations and honorary visiting research fellow at the University of Bradford. From 1994 to 1999 he was Visiting Professor and Chair of International Communications at the University of Salford in England. From 1991 to 1998 he was a Trustee of the International Institute of Communications. His fellow Trustees included CEOs from some of the world’s largest broadcasting and telecommunications companies. Tracey earned a BA with honors in Politics from the University of Exeter and a PhD from the University of Leicester, where he also served as research fellow and taught at the graduate level. He has published extensively in eight books, academic journals, conference papers and popular media. He has also given countless talks and lectures in many countries on the politics, organization and economics of public service broadcasting. Since 1998 he has become a documentary film maker, including producing three documentaries about the JonBenet Ramsey murder case. He is currently researching and writing two books dealing with aspects of what he terms “the injustice of the American justice system.
I’m still looking into other articles that he’s written, but I guess my question to you guys is this:
Is this what a disinformation shill looks like?

Looks like he’s a real pro to me. Can you say PsyOps?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2006 8:02 utc | 50

Digby on CNN: –…Blitzer just characterized the ruling as having “serious implications for the War on Terror” rather than serious implications for the Bush administration. That Republican programming is something, isn’t it?
And is it common to immediately put up a picture and discuss the race and gender of judges who ruled in major cases? I don’t think I’ve seen it before. Usually they indicate whether or not a judge is a treasonous activist liberal by just indicating who appointed them. This time, we’ve got the designation “african american” every time the judge is mentioned. Now why would that be? …
I have not heard any news except for this JonBenét Ramsey case on all the newschannels since i got home from work–nothing about a Judge stating Bush broke the law (again)…no Iraq, no Lebanon–nothing but JonBenet shit. This is so market driven, a proven attention-getter, and all tragic white girls always get massive media attention, even when dead 8 years or more.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2006 8:30 utc | 51

Updated Craig Murray piece in The Guardian: The timing is political

In all of this, the one thing of which I am certain is that the timing is deeply political. This is more propaganda than plot. More than 1,000 British Muslims have been arrested under anti-terrorist legislation, but only 12% have been charged. That is harassment on an appalling scale. Of those charged, 80% were acquitted. Most of the few convictions – just over 2% of arrests – are nothing to do with terrorism, but some minor offence the police happened upon while trawling through the lives they have wrecked.
Plainly, Islamist terrorism does exist. But its growth is encouraged by our adherence to neocon foreign policy, by our support for appalling regimes abroad, and by our trampling on the rights of Muslims in the UK. Now David Cameron has joined Blair and Reid in the rush to benefit politically from the fear thus engendered. Be very wary of politicians who seek to benefit from terror.
Be sceptical. Be very, very sceptical.

Posted by: b | Aug 18 2006 9:52 utc | 52

IDF reservist writes in Haaretz
On a hill overlooking the bloody battleground of Waterloo, Meir, a British Jew, stood at noon on June 18, 1815. By 10:00 PM, when the battle was over and the sides began counting their dead – 25,000 French and 15,000 British and Prussian dead – Meir was already on the other side of the English Channel in a boat he had readied in advance. He was in a rush to buy stock on the London Stock Exchange while prices were still low. At the end of a single day of trading, on June 19, by the time Wellington had found the time to send letters summing up the battle and Napoleon’s defeat, Meir Rothchild was a millionaire. Just like in any war, there are winners and losers.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 18 2006 10:08 utc | 53

White House backing new plan to defuse insurrection in Pakistan?
WASHINGTON – A U.S.-backed plan to defeat Islamist militants in Pakistan’s autonomous tribal areas has backfired badly, and the Bush administration is working with Pakistan to come up with a new strategy to defuse the insurrection.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2006 10:26 utc | 54

US Backed Islamic Terrorism in the Balkans?
Say it aint so!
US Backed Islamic Terrorism
in the Balkans

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2006 10:32 utc | 55

@CP:
You sure do find the most interesting stuff.
@Comrade Citizen:
Will surely attend your discussion group.
@Uncle:
Your last looks interesting.

Posted by: Smedley | Aug 18 2006 11:24 utc | 56

uncle scam
I know tracey very well. have known him for ten years. you’re wrong. to the extent he’s exploited the murder, it’s been for the enormously important effort to expose media malfeasance and bad faith, as much as is possible in our popular culture, and attempt an ideology critique of the news-obsession for murdered white girls/women.
sometimes we weave webs of mystery here too large to catch anything.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 18 2006 15:32 utc | 57

ACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Angry Arab claims that the Nasrallah interview is a fake. The comments section makes some good points to support his claim.
I think I’ve been had.
We’ll have to see how this plays out.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 15:34 utc | 58

“I appear to have hit a nerve with my call for a sceptical view of the alleged “bigger than 9/11″ plot. Over 50,000 people so far have read the item on my own blog, and it has been quoted and reposted all over the web.”
Craig Murray

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 15:42 utc | 59

Uncle, Mike Malloy intelligently suggested that the arrest in the JonBenet Ramsey case has Rove’s fingerprints all over it, precisely to take the judge’s ruling off Center Stage. Apparently it worked – CBS news had several minutes on it, but 25 secs. on Judge Taylor’s ruling (by a stopwatch).
Why was someone from Homeland Security in Thailand at the announcement? Why did they extract a confession from a guy whose wife at the time (a highly credible Chrisian suburban Mother of 3, who left him after his first arrest for porn. & hasn’t spoken to him since) said he spent all Christmas w/the family at their home in Alabama, (JB R was murdered on Christmas Day.) and whose brother said to the best of his knowledge he had never set foot in Colorado. Doesn’t pass the smell test. Will they fake DNA evidence?

Posted by: jj | Aug 18 2006 16:17 utc | 60

Oops, sorry Unca, didn’t catch top of yr. long post before #60!

Posted by: jj | Aug 18 2006 16:33 utc | 61

William Pfaff on “Israeli ‘cheap war,’ myth of air power”
Paul Craig Roberts on
“What we know and don’t know about 9/11”

Both great articles. Pfaff says more, and makes more sense, in five paragraphs than Cordesman’s tortured equivocations can eke out in 25 pdf footnoted pages.
Some might call it sad, but I simply note here without emotion that these two centrist Republicans from the 1970’s tell more truth than the whole army of liberal pundits and officeholders: the Israeli shill Sheer, Dionne, Richard Cohen, Joe Klein, the whole gang at the Washington Post, Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama, Russ Feingold, John Kerry, Ned Lamont — the entire cruise missile gang.
Read both articles and learn something. Or listen to the liberals, get bamboozled, and learn nothing. Even Krugman got his start under Reagan.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 17:56 utc | 62

P.S. Paul Craig Roberts couldn’t make understanding the events of 9-11, and their consequences, simpler. Even my cats are starting to catch on.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 17:58 utc | 63

citizen, b real, malooga, and others who have been worrying about r’giap – i just spoke with him and it is as i thought: his computer has stopped working and he is not feeling well enough to post regularly. posting has also become more difficult as he is borrowing time on friends’ and colleagues’ computers and is occupied with ateliers during the day. we had a horrible connection and his unique mix of australian and french was more complex than usual to understand but he did tell me how touched he was by everyone’s concern. fortunately, i was also able to understand that while he is not at all well and there are complications with his insulin levels, it is not critical at the moment and we can be thankful for that.
as i mentioned yesterday, i will be sending him my laptop as soon as i buy a new one – been hoping apple would reduce the price when they introduced new product in august, but am still only hoping. r’giap lost sight in one eye when he was a child and it will be a challenge to deal with the small screen on my 12″ laptop, so if anyone wants to help with a larger monitor i know it will be appreciated. just a little advance warning – we will all have to bear with the inevitable typos as the american keyboard he is about to receive is configured very differently than the french to which he is accustomed. but he will be back as soon as he is able.

Posted by: conchita | Aug 18 2006 18:25 utc | 64

Thanks for the update conchita. God I wish I wasn’t living in abject poverty, and crushed by school loans, otherwise I would send something ;-(

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2006 18:34 utc | 65

uncle, i commiserate. if i did not need the new computer for design work, i would not be in a position to help out either as i too am still a poor student. if the world isn’t destroyed by this administration first, eventually you and i will see better days.

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 18 2006 18:47 utc | 66

The family probably has pictures – Christmas, the chldren, the tree, the turkey.

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 18 2006 19:08 utc | 67

Thanks for your update, conchita. Also thanks for your activist post on the last OT.
There must be some organization where he lives that collects and redistributes old computers from businesses. Gosh, where I live you can pick perfectly fine 17″ monitors out of the dump all day long. I’ve got a friend with a whole network of ten computers, printers, the works, all picked out of the dump. And any old box is sufficient for word processing and internet browsing. When I was running a coop, and I put the call out for computers, I was deluged with three whole pallets full! Seriously. Disposal is more of a problem than aquisition around here.
Is there anyone out there in France who could help with some practical searching skills to find a local donor source for him?

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 19:51 utc | 68

malooga, i expect that r’giap’s colleagues and friends in nantes will be glad to help to whatever extent possible to find a used monitor. however, i know that his work space is cramped and already highly populated with books, notebooks, photographs, etc. and a flat-screen will make the most sense, and i don’t know if anyone is discarding them yet. however, if anyone in france can make suggestions, please do.

Posted by: conchita | Aug 18 2006 20:44 utc | 69

Mainstream TV Media Drops The Ball On NSA Ruling, Instead Devotes Attention To JonBenet Ramsey
ABC devoted twice as much time to Ramsey as it did to the NSA story. More egregiously, CBS offered seven times as much airtime to Ramsey as it did to the NSA story, while NBC devoted 15 times more airtime.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2006 21:26 utc | 70

Maybe we could find him a used laptop for about $400 in Nantes, and everyone could pony up $10; I’d be willing.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 22:18 utc | 71

You know, I don’t really watch normal TV, and I turn it, and my mind, off when I hear “manufactured” stories. I must confess that I have no idea whatsoever what the Ramsey story is even about. I think there is a murder involved, but that’s all I know.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 18 2006 22:20 utc | 72

rowan, this came in my email today and i thought of you. don’t know if it’s something you would be interested in but saw your post the other night and . . .
*****************
Dear Friends and Comrades,
We are hiring a Field Organizer! Please send this out to anyone you think might be interested. The full job description is available at http://www.warresisters.org
peace,
Steve
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Field Organizer
War Resisters League
The War Resisters League seeks a strategic, self-directed, and experienced Field Organizer to help build and develop our work on a national level. As one of the leading radical voices in the anti-war movement, our programs challenge military recruitment and war profiteering, organize nonviolent direct action, and offer on-the-ground education. Our current projects include the Not Your Soldier Project, the Stop the Merchants of Death Program, and a number of local and regional anti-war organizing projects.
The Field Organizer will be based in our New York City national office, but will also spend a significant portion of their time on the road building the League. S/he will initiate, organize, and support WRL local chapters and affiliates, and assist WRL-identified groups network, organize and act for social and political change, with the goal of developing community leaders who will continue to organize with the WRL in the coming years.
Full job description at http://www.warresisters.org
This is a full time salaried position. Yearly salary is $35,677, with full benefits, including health insurance, paid vacation and a pension contribution of five percent.
Please send a cover letter, resume, and three references to youth@warresisters.org with Field Organizer in the subject line. The deadline is September 15th 2006. You can also fax your application to 212.228.6193
The War Resisters League is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer. The office, however, is located on the second floor and not wheelchair- accessible. There is an office cat.
Believing war to be a crime against humanity, the War Resisters League, founded in 1923, advocates Gandhian nonviolence as the method for creating a democratic society free of war, racism, sexism, and human exploitation. http://www.warresisters.org
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— Steve Theberge National Organizer, Youth and Counter Militarism Program War Resisters League youth@warresisters.org http://www.warresisters.org/youth | http://www.myspace.com/dmznetwork http://www.notyoursoldier.org | http://www.nyspc.org 212.228.0450 x102 339 Lafayette Street New York City, NY 10012 “It doesn’t do any good to blame the people or the time – one is oneself all those people. We are the time.” ~ James Baldwin We need your support – please DONATE to the WRL: https://secure.serve.com/resist/support_wrl.htm __._,_.___

Posted by: conchita | Aug 18 2006 22:38 utc | 73

conchita,
Refurbished flat screens of 17″ or more are showing up online for around $150-200, but I don’t know where would be best to look for France. Regardless, if scrounging doesn’t work, sign me up as a supporter of the purchase.
Thanks for making contact.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 19 2006 1:22 utc | 74

count me in conchita

Posted by: annie | Aug 19 2006 1:35 utc | 75

Malooga- where is your other work published? I’m sure many of us would like to read it.

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 19 2006 2:28 utc | 76

On the off chance that someone saw my DHS-CyberStorm– link recently, which may or may not be a hoax, and as many MOA’s know, one of my favorite authors, Maestro Robert Anton Wilson* has no use for TIME, and in that espirit I found the following quite interesting, maybe you will to if you get my drift, The Wonga Coup
Western millionaires plotted Equatorial Guinea coup as a game
about various skulduggery surrounding the exact same country mentioned in a
certain epic cult novel. One of which occurring at around the same time
said book came out (give or take a few years) Do you think there’s a
reasonable chance that one influenced the other (which one did the
influencing being up to you) or is it just “coincidence”?
No, no use for TIME…
Are we going to let our emotional life be run by Time Magazine?
I’m obsessed by Time Magazine.
I read it every week.
Its cover stares at me every time I slink past the corner candystore.
I read it in the basement of the University Of Montana mansfiled Library.
It’s always telling me about responsibility. Businessmen are serious. Movie
producers are serious. Everybody’s serious but me.
It occurs to me that I am America.
(with nod to herr ginsberg)
See, I have balance, I know when to laugh: How a Right-Winger Sees the New York Times. we have to laugh sometimes, it’s healing…
*anyone familiar w/ RAW knows bout Fernando Poo.
Cheers to a warm weekend…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 19 2006 2:39 utc | 77

latest Krugman pearls in ‘compressed’ version
Wherein PK shows that wage inequality shifts to follow the country’s ruling ideology (not necessarily its ruling party). Wherein he also mentions that Clinton governed somewhere to the right of Nixon (but I’m not sure that made it into the compressed version).
I have to confess I thought immediately of Bookchin’s criticism of the Green party’s bid to get into national elections rather than stay at the municipal level of politics. I’ll save that link for another week, though.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 19 2006 2:53 utc | 78

conchita and all,
I can buy from my distributor new 17″ flat screens for about 160 dollars. I have a good friend in the U.S. who lived in France for many years and ran a computer business in that country. I too will offer to put money into it for rgaip and contact my old buddy tomorrow to see what is best.

Posted by: Rick Happ | Aug 19 2006 3:09 utc | 79

Oh, yes, btw, thanks yall for turning me on to Bookchin, quite fascinating, though I haven’t had time to say so… I love being turned on to authors and people I have never heard of, it’s like christmaz morning or someting… 😉

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 19 2006 3:09 utc | 80

conchita,
I’m in too

Posted by: anna missed | Aug 19 2006 3:15 utc | 81

@Malooga et al,
If you want to read something bone chilling and lurid on the Ramseys case, I susggest Jeff Mills’s Single Pervert Theory fair warning though, you will need a stiff drink, and possibily a shower afterward. Not many would be brave enough to go down that rabbit hole…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 19 2006 3:22 utc | 82

Re buying a computer, etc. CHECK CRAIGSLIST. If it’s not great in the East, check San Franscisco & have it sent. I’ve gotten cars & computers there & have dealt w/first-rate people & first rate prices. Here take a look at their iMac’s – page 1 – 171 computers listed (The rest of the country may be screwed up – when I checked Philly to buy one for someone they mostly had Clone bullshit rather than Apple – but SF is Apple’s homebase.) If they don’t have the box, which they often do, they can take it to a place that ships – they’re all over town.

Posted by: jj | Aug 19 2006 3:58 utc | 83

P.S. If you want to get one out here, you can lv. me an email address & I’d be happy to go double-check that it works & take it to the shipping place!

Posted by: jj | Aug 19 2006 3:59 utc | 84

P.S. There’s a craiglist in France. Might help.

Posted by: jj | Aug 19 2006 4:12 utc | 85

For those unsatisfied with CompressedKrugman, here’s the Full Monty.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 19 2006 5:10 utc | 86

You know you’ve lost the war when…
1) It’s on the cover of the Economist (Print Edition)
2) There are 2 entirely separate articles in the press of yr. Patron yakking up yr. mobsters:
Exhibit A: Clarett has ties to Israeli mob
ESPN reported that in late summer of 2004, Clarett went to Los Angeles and was introduced to Hai Waknine, 35, a convicted felon who prosecutors believe is a member of an Israeli crime organization called The Jerusalem Group.
ESPN.com reported that Waknine provided Clarett with cash, a car, bodyguards, drivers and beachfront lodging in Malibu, with the understanding that he would be reimbursed and receive 60 percent of Clarett’s NFL rookie contract.
But when Clarett was released by Denver in August 2005, he was unable to pay Waknine back, and ESPN has learned that Waknine eventually cut off Clarett financially.

Exhibit B: Columnist Says that Israeli Mob Muscling into Vegas

Posted by: jj | Aug 19 2006 5:35 utc | 87

Hezbollah says fighters clashed with IDF deep inside eastern Lebanon

An Israel Defense Forces officer was killed and two other officers were wounded – one seriously – during a commando raid near the Hezbollah stronghold of Baalbek in eastern Lebanon early Saturday.
Hezbollah’s Al-Manar TV said the Israeli unit was transported by helicopter which landed before dawn and was driving into the village, when the soldiers were intercepted by guerrillas, who forced it to retreat under the cover of warplanes.
Lebanese security sources said commandos in two vehicles unloaded from helicopters were on their way to attack an office of senior Hizbollah official Sheikh Mohammed Yazbek in the village of Bodai when they were spotted and intercepted.

One of those Israeli “defensive” military operations tacitly allowed by that masterwork of the UN. I’m sure that defending themselves from the Israeli invasion and attack were “in violation” of the sheets off that same roll of paper.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Aug 19 2006 9:54 utc | 88

Israel: Not all nations welcome in U.N. force

JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israel objects to including countries that do not have diplomatic relations with the Jewish state in a planned United Nations force for southern Lebanon, the country’s ambassador to the United Nations said on Friday.
Malaysia and Indonesia have each offered to send 1,000 troops to Lebanon. Both countries, with Muslim majority populations, have no diplomatic ties with Israel and strongly support the Palestinian cause.
“It would be very difficult if not inconceivable for Israel to accept troops from countries who do not recognize Israel, who have no diplomatic relations with Israel,” Israel’s U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman told the BBC.

Who do these people think that they are? The rest of the world views the UN force as the protection that Lebanon so desperately needs from the mad dog to its south and its terrorist arms supplier.
They have no say in who is to help the Lebanese monitor and keep a lid on their aggression.

Posted by: John Francis Lee | Aug 19 2006 10:05 utc | 89

@#76:
I’ve got half a book written and the beginnings of three others, but right now my life is a model of disorganization and incipient disaster, so this is the main place to find my writing. I’ve thought of starting a blog to allow for more commenting, but I haven’t gotten around to it yet. I post on a few other blogs, but not usually in depth.
Thanks for the interest. It’s what every writer craves.
My last long piece was here.
I’m gonna write a post on the Bookchin article tonight if I get a chance.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 19 2006 14:23 utc | 90

My mistake. I read this-
We are already quite familiar here with the ideas of Zinn on learning to differentiate our interests from the ruling classes and understanding history through viewpoint; Chomsky and Hermann on power, propaganda, and thought control; Klein and Chatterjee on corporations; Roy, Shiva, Wallach and others on globalization; Debord, Baudrillard and Knabb on appearances; through my writing, Wallerstein and Frank on economics and world systems theory;
…and thought you were a published author or that you were an authority in a field that was vetted by others in that field. I read where you also said you had done reporting on Katrina in New Orleans. Was that also for this place?

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 19 2006 21:50 utc | 91

I know we had this tedious debate last week about whether we should support religious muslims who were fighting US domination. I think Nassrallah provides the answer:
ACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Angry Arab claims that the Nasrallah interview is a fake. The comments section makes some good points to support his claim.
I think I’ve been had.
We’ll have to see how this plays out.

great and insightful work!

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 19 2006 21:56 utc | 92

@91:
Pick yourself out a moniker! There’s a whole lot of them out there in cyberspace.
When I said “We are familiar,” I was referring to discussions on past threads here at Moon, where over the past year or so all of those thinkers and their work has been discussed. “My writing” refers to authors I introduced others to in posts here.
When I mention reporting, I refer to the two years that I hosted and produced a popular political program on FM radio in Boston, some of which was syndicated nationally.
This is just a blog, and I’m just a regular poster. I don’t pretend to have a Phd in Political Science (though I’m friends with people who do). I’ve worked for a number of years in alternative media and for a number of years in alternative agriculture — as well as with computers and in the oil industry; I’ve taught media literacy courses and news editing; and I know some pretty heavy hitters personally so I get to ask questions. But I’m just a guy thinking out and revising my theories about how the world works, here at Moon, along with everyone else. Just another poor shmuck whistling his way through the darkness.
Sorry if my words seemed to imply anything else.
@92:
I’ve been doing some research, and now I am more inclined to believe that Angry Arab was wrong, and the interview was real. Still, it is an open question which I expect to be resolved within a few days. Counterpunch has a pretty good record with mea culpas. And so do I if I’m wrong.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 19 2006 23:50 utc | 93

The Hollywood Shit List

Posted by: DM | Aug 20 2006 4:04 utc | 94

LOL the best example of distracting those on the left who imagine that a people’s right to self-dermination is a function of their western defined ‘political correctness’ by way of out of context and irrelevant quotations comes from Popbitch
“A leader of the Palestine based Al Aqsa Martyrs
Brigade has claimed that Israel failed to defeat
Hizbullah because its army is “full of gay
soldiers”. The Israeli army has allowed gays to
take part in all aspects of military life since
1993. And Hamas’ leader in Gaza, Dr Mahmoud
Zahar has gone further, condemning the rights
that all gays have in Israel saying “Are
these the laws for which the Palestinian street
is waiting? For us to give rights to homosexuals
and to lesbians, a minority of perverts and
the mentally and morally sick?”
But not all his religious brethren agree. In
Saudi Arabia, a gay wedding last weekend saw
over 400 guests celebrating, until police sadly
broke up the party and detained 20 guests
for “emulating women”.”

Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 20 2006 21:39 utc | 95

In response to Debs’ comment, it’s important to point out that a similar prejudice against gays is widely prevalent among right wingers in Israel as well. For instance, see this article: Violence in Israel caused by ‘gay’ event? Rabbis link troubles to approval of World Pride parade in Jerusalem
Yet many religious leaders believe the Israeli government’s decision to allow a world homosexual parade in Jerusalem is having real-life consequences.

“When God’s presence is in the camp, nothing can happen to the Jewish people,” Brody stated. “But If the Jewish people bring impurity into the camp of Israel, this chases away God’s presence.”

Before becoming a rabbi, Brody served for many years in the Israeli army, where he fought in combat missions in Beirut during Israel’s incursion into Lebanon in the early 1980’s. He said the public display of homosexuality in Jerusalem “soils the camp of Israel with impurity, and pushes away the divine presence and protection.”

Despite Judicial support, a recent poll shows that nearly 70 percent of all Jerusalemites oppose the march. Mayor Uri Lupolianski, an orthodox Jew, has filed a petition to prevent the event from taking place. About half of the Knesset’s 120 legislatures signed a petition against holding a homosexual parade in Jerusalem.

Meanwhile, Yehuda Levin, a member of the Rabbinical Alliance of America, has come to Israel specifically to prevent the homosexual celebration from taking place. He said a homosexual parade is akin to a parade of “prostitutes promoting prostitution, or adulterers encouraging others to try adultery at least once in their life.”
“Israel is the Holy Land, not the homo-land,” Levin told WND.

Posted by: Alan | Aug 20 2006 22:15 utc | 96

Re: DM’s #94
Jeez. I knew that Bruce Willis was a hardcore, right-wing tool in the Dennis Miller mold, but I was surprised to see some of the other names mentioned. In 2001, very, very shortly after 9/11, one of the first news stories I read about the administration’s response involved sending some of the generals “to Hollywood” to make sure that “America stays on message”.
I thought they’d given up on that plan after efforts to demonise many dissenting celebrities as godless, liberal America-haters didn’t produce the Dixie Chicks-esque boycott they were hoping for. I should have known better… history has shown us how highly fascists prize their entertainment. As a matter of fact, Hurricane Katrina should have demonstrated amply to us that they are fine with leaving out the bread as long as they can provide the circuses.
The wording of the Hollywood statement is more chilling to me than the individual trademarked show ponies who signed it. “Terrorism must be stopped at all costs.” At all costs. Let that simmer in the back of your head for awhile. At all costs. Even five years into this Grand Fascist Experiment, when we have had some hints about “what all costs” could mean to this White House, there are STILL some vapid capitalist tools who would burn down their own homes because they can’t get enough toast.
At least nobody can accuse these jet-setters of being class traitors… they were never amongst the people to begin with.

Posted by: Monolycus | Aug 20 2006 23:22 utc | 97

truth about iraqis

“I’m not talking about those arrested or captured in the process of fighting against the coalition. I’m talking about children who were rounded up for no particular reason, who have not been charged but have been put into detention,” he said in a brief telephone interview.
In his report titled “Six Blunders we made in Iraq we can still fix,” Mr. Adame praises the work of the coalition forces that have captured and killed terrorists in Iraq.
The bad news, he said, was that “in the process of combing Iraq for bad guys, field commanders, for one reason or another, and at times indiscriminately, have confined many men and women without any specific charges or reasons that can be remembered or recorded.”
“Consequently the coalition has, without charge or specific reason, confined many innocent people and deprived them, without cause, of the very liberties we came here to preserve,” said Mr. Adame.
Mr. Adame, a retired U.S. Marine who has two sons who have served in Iraq, one of whom was wounded in July while on patrol, also criticized U.S. officials for allowing the militarization of the Ministry of Interior (MOI) and ignoring abuses that took place there.
“It was the U.S. military generals who decided, through advisory influence, on who would control the MOI, and it was all of us who looked the other way while these Iraqi generals, led by the minister, trampled all over the rights and liberties of the good Iraqi people,” Mr. Adame wrote in his report.
He describes how, in 2005, he was with an Iraqi general who was in charge of logistics for the Ministry of Interior when the general received an order — signed by the minister — to issue 1,000 AK-47 combat rifles to a Muslim cleric.

Posted by: annie | Aug 20 2006 23:30 utc | 98