Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 22, 2006
Rumsfeld Out – Who In?

George W. Bush, Sep 20, 2001:

Either you are with us, or you are withl the terrorists.

Doing a bit of Kremlinology I come to the conclusion that Rumsfeld will be fired as soon as somebody else is found to take the job.

It took more than a year to find anyone willing to take the job of Secretary of Treasury John W. Snow, so it may well take a while a find a replacement for Rumsfeld.

But the case here is much more urgent than the Snow replacement ever was.

Rumsfeld is a political liability for the current administration AND he now did get into the way of the neocon’s plans.

Those Republican politicians who will have to fight to get reelected need him to leave immediately. The neocon warmongers need him to get out of the way in time for the next cakewalk. But those two timelines differ and that ensures a conflict within the administration.

Karl Rove knows that Rumsfeld is a huge problem in the path of keeping a majority in both Congress chambers. He let other people know that Rummy has to be fired and he did ask his selection for the next presidential election, McCain, to take care of the issue.

Yes, this is speculative, but follow me along the trail:

Seymore Hersh, Aug 14, 2006 in The New Yorker:

Some current and former intelligence officials who were interviewed for this article believe that Rumsfeld disagrees with Bush and Cheney about the American role in the war between Israel and Hezbollah.
[…]
A Western diplomat said that he understood that Rumsfeld did not know all the intricacies of the war plan. “He is angry and worried about his troops” in Iraq, the diplomat said.
[…]
At a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on August 3rd, Rumsfeld was less than enthusiastic about the war’s implications for the American troops in Iraq.

Seymore Hersh, Aug 14, 2006 on Democracy Now:

Well, what’s interesting about Rumsfeld, because for the first time — and not everybody agreed, but people that — you know, I’m long of tooth, Amy, and I’ve been around this town a long time, and obviously, since 9/11, a lot of people talk to me. And for the first time, Rummy doesn’t seem to be on board, is what I’m hearing.
[…]
Rumsfeld is very concerned about the 150,000 American troops on the ground in Iraq, who are potentially in a very untenable position. There’s no question Iraq’s lost. There’s a lot of question about what we’re doing in Afghanistan. We’re sort of 0-for-2 in those two. And so, Rumsfeld was not happy about this policy, about going in in a protracted war in Southern Lebanon with Nasrallah
[…]
[T]o get back to Rumsfeld, there’s no question that Iran has enormous influence inside Iraq, dominated now by the Shia, Shia Iran, and I think Rumsfeld’s concern, I was told, is that a protracted war against Nasrallah will only cause the Iranians, in support of Hezbollah, to start squeezing our troops in Iraq.

Laura Rozen, Aug 18, 2006:

Has Bush called some people to inquire if they would be willing to replace Rumsfeld? In the past ten days?

Laura Rozen, Aug 22, 2006:

Bush has put out a quiet feeler to replace Rumsfeld in recent weeks. He was politely turned down by at least one candidate he personally called. Unknown: is this one of many candidates Bush has sounded out?

Laura Rozen, Aug 22, 2006:

Reading the transcript of President Bush’s press conference yesterday, which was heavily focused on promoting staying in Iraq, even while acknowledging the strain to the American psyche of the task, it’s interesting who he does not once mention. […] But he does not once mention Rumsfeld or refer to him. Is that a random omission, or notable, that he doesn’t once mention the cabinet secretary charged with running the war when talking about the war?

McCain, Aug 21, 2006 Bloomberg via LA Times:

McCain repeated his criticism of President Bush for using too few troops in Iraq and his lack of confidence in Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

Yet McCain said he remained confident of Bush’s ability to handle the Iraq war and called for a greater U.S. military commitment, rather than a troop withdrawal, in the face of warnings that Iraq could be sliding toward civil war. "We cannot lose this," McCain said. "It will cause chaos in Iraq and in the region."

McCain, Aug 20, 2006 in Meet The Press

SEN. McCAIN:  [..] I’ve had strong differences with Secretary Rumsfeld on this issue and other aspects of the war. The, the, the standing down of the Army, rather than hiring them. The, the failure to do a series of measures which were important as part of our effort to control Iraq.
[…]
MR. GREGORY: Do you think Secretary Rumsfeld should keep his job?

SEN. McCAIN: That’s up to the president of the United States. The president picks his team and the president—as long as the president has confidence in him, then he’ll keep that team.

MR. GREGORY: Even at this stage of the war, you think, you still stick to that position that it’s up to the president?

SEN. McCAIN: Because elections have consequences. The president has the right to pick his team. I’ve been asked a number of times if I had confidence in Secretary Rumsfeld and the answer is no.

MR. GREGORY: But you still think he should stay in place if the president wants him.

SEN. McCAIN: I think the president should pick his team and I will support the president’s selections.

Journalist John Harwood Aug 21, 2006 in Meet The Press

MR. HARWOOD: And, David, that’s where the domestic politics is going to go in the near term. I talked to a top Democrat strategist yesterday who said, “What we’re going to do in the fall is try to focus on accountability questions on Rumsfeld, try to look at some way of pressuring the administration and Republicans in Congress on Rumsfeld.” And when that happens, you will have a moment when Republican candidates may have to choose, are they going to stick with the administration or are they going to try to go along with Democrats on some resolution, for example, calling for the president to replace Rumsfeld as a way of showing daylight between themselves and the Bush administration.

This looks like Rummy finally did get a bit of a lesson from his Generals and does now does see the consequences of risking the troops in Iraq. But as more he is developing some kind of lobotomized conscience the less valuable he gets for the next round of bombing the Middle East into something New.

This while he is the perfect negative figure the democrats can use that does not have a preeminent positive presidential aura.

The neocons would prefer Lieberman as a candidate for Rumsfelds position. But Lieberman first has to win or lose the election in Connecticut  before he is available.

That is too long a wait for those republican candidates who have to win their race on the same date.

So this may well turn out to be a struggle between the neocons, Cheney essentially, and the more political minded, i.e. Rove. That is going to be a quite interesting fight.

So who will be Rumsfeld replacement and when will that change of command be announced?

Comments

don’t you mean Rummy’s a political ‘liability’ as opposed to a ‘reliability?’

Posted by: moe99moe99 | Aug 22 2006 20:53 utc | 1

If Lieberman wins the election, HE will take Rumsfeld’s place.
Lieberman will accept Bush’s appointment to replace Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense, resign his seat and allow the Republican governor of Connecticut to appoint a Republican in his stead. That is the implicit deal between the Lieberman camp and Rove, Cheney, and Bush.

Posted by: ClearwaterConservative | Aug 22 2006 21:06 utc | 2

@clearwater – I agree, but for other Repub candiates that is too long a timeline to keep their seats.

Posted by: b | Aug 22 2006 21:15 utc | 3

Well whoever it is, he will have worked for Goldman Sachs, if the recent past is any guide.

Posted by: Guthman Bey | Aug 22 2006 21:15 utc | 4

@moe99 – you are right, thanks a lot – I corrected that liability – sorry, English is not my native or even daily language and I do make mistakes.

Posted by: b | Aug 22 2006 21:20 utc | 5

It’s not as if this wasn’t foreseeable, all be it reluctant after experiencing nearly unbridled power, these guys have driven the real power for 20 or 30 years behind the scenes. I forget where I read it, but the current line up’s job number one, was merely to get our foot in the door, (knowing once we do we will never leave) the rest would be “the gravy and biscuits”, as they say in the South. I suspect, this was the meaning behind the imfamous “mission accomplished” spectacle. That’s why it rolled off their backs like water on a duck. Russian-esque aesopian monopolistic language, meaning, and context playing to the base. It’s only effective with people who already know the truth of plausible deniability.
They figured. ‘hey’, lets spend some time in the limelight to break the monotony, knowing full well, they are as comfortable in the shadows running things as they are in the the drivers seat it, they will find it inconvenient, but will carry on as the goal is much bigger. All these people are replaceable it’s the Rove doctrine that counts…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 22 2006 22:22 utc | 6

I can’t contribute anything as to politics, but want to insert here a note of appreciation for Bernhard’s kind concern for the USA in keeping up this site, and his willingness to do it in a second language. I want to mention that blog English suits blogs, but it isn’t the best model for learning the language. Bernhard, thank you for your continuing effort to produce this very fine gathering place.

Posted by: emereton | Aug 22 2006 23:11 utc | 7

sorry, English is not my native or even daily language and I do make mistakes.
b, the fact that you are communicating in a language not imprinted at birth will assure that you make ‘mistakes’ that we imbued in the language will assuredly pick up on, but, I only I wish I could use this native language of mine to communicate as well as you in your acquired language.
Keep up the great work and no need for sorrow, you’re totally appreciated here.

Posted by: Juannie | Aug 23 2006 0:01 utc | 8

Couldn’t agree more…You are the best b. Maybe you could help us with our French. Such a beautiful language.

Posted by: Northcoast | Aug 23 2006 1:30 utc | 9

I don’t believe a word of this. Bush won’t admit to ever making a mistake. He’s been advised to replace the Secretary of Defense before –reportedly by his own father–and ignored all requests to date.
This is an election year. Replacing Rumsfeld will give the Democrats an issue that they could use to great effect. There is no way, I think, that this can happen before November, if then.

Posted by: hopping madbunny | Aug 23 2006 1:33 utc | 10

Ah Geez you guys —
I just wish that we could rig up a guillotine like the good old days with Madame Lafargue and the Frenchies. Though I appreciate that we are supposed to be past “all that punishment stuff” — I just think that there is a deep satisfying resonation with seeing a head of the enemy rolling blank eyed into a basket. It has particular style points if accompanied by someone quietly and peacefully knitting — tieing those loose threads and finishing an end appropriately for the history books.
Sigh — not in my lifetime — but I can dream can’t I?

Posted by: Elie | Aug 23 2006 2:22 utc | 11

@b:
Yes, I’m always impressed with your command of English, it’s phenomenal. The only thing that gives it away that it is not your native language is the kind of little mistakes you occasionally make which a native never would. I always find them funny in an endearing way. If I hadn’t been married to a foreigner I probably would never catch them.
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As far as the topic at hand, I don’t think it really matters very much. It’s more a matter of marketing; that’s what the rest of the cabinet is: pretty public faces. Rummy used to be considered a stud-muffin, in dc parlance. It’s possible that Rummy is getting cold feet. But it is just as likely that Rummy himself can read the handwriting on the wall and wants to get off the bus before Waterloo Station. After all, how much of a fall guy can you be when you can simply take your $50M fortune, go back the one of the most beautiful homes in Taos, and enjoy yourself — that’s hardly what I would call taking a Wilmer for the team.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 23 2006 2:29 utc | 12

Cheney and Rummy have been together for a long time – since the Nixon administration. In fact Cheney worked for Rummy then. Its highly unlikely Cheney will stab Rummy in the back. There’s no question Bush is facing political heat on Iraq. The Lamont-Lieberman Democrat primary was a watershed – this is the first race that was a referendum on Iraq and Bush. The Democrats in general have not had any courage to stand up and call Bush on his credibility. Now if the Democrats get wise they will follow the Lamont strategy and focus on Iraq and holding Bush/Cheney accountable as the central theme of the fall campaign. That could be devastating for the Repubs and the Dems could win a landslide winning both houses.
Rummy is probably tired. He knows that Iraq and Afghanistan are lost and he’ll be the lightning rod for all the anger. Better to get out of the way now than in the aftermath of a Democrat led congress with investigations into everything he said, did, ordered. His long time buddy Cheney is probably helping him ease his way out.

Posted by: ab initio | Aug 23 2006 2:52 utc | 13

Not saying that being in the military for a few years especially qualifies you to be a Secretary of Defense, I still find it odd that someone with absolutely no military experience at all, like Joe Lieberman, would be considered for that slot.
While it’s true that being a bus driver doesn’t make you a candidate for Secty of Transportation, at least some background in the transportation industry would be helpful. I kind of expect the Surgeon General to be a doctor. I expect the Secty of the Treasury to have some experience in finance and banking.
Am I being picky? Is it too much to ask for?

Posted by: Ensley | Aug 23 2006 2:58 utc | 14

these days, most of the jobs in fed are ideological positions. swear loyalty to the guy pretending to be the president & all ya gotta do is follow orders & talking points to get in on a bit of that power surge and add some zero’s to your portfolio. also helps to be a staunch anti-communi.. erm, anti-musli… erm, anti-terrorist.

Posted by: b real | Aug 23 2006 3:09 utc | 15

Right Ensley, they should promote Boykin….(Couldn’t resist!). This is Ideologues -R-Us…Experience isn’t all that relevant, and might interfere w/the Atrocious judgement required. How anyone who can knit & chew gum at the same time could even sit in the same room as BubbleBoy is utterly beyond me.

Posted by: jj | Aug 23 2006 3:10 utc | 16

I expect the Secty of the Treasury to have some experience in finance and banking.
Am I being picky? Is it too much to ask for?

You’d kind of expect the Chief Executive to have some experience executing, oops, I guess he does have that, I guess I mean governing.

Posted by: Malooga | Aug 23 2006 4:02 utc | 17

I’m still trying to figure out which committees Katherine Harris will be qualified for.

Posted by: Ensley | Aug 23 2006 4:48 utc | 18

I’m inclined to agree with hoppingmadbunny (#10), although I think we are past the point of expecting political repercussions for anything now that Diebold has sealed the electoral deal for us. No, there have been grumblings about Rumsfeld as long as he has been the Secretary of Defense and he’s weathered louder talk of his resignation/replacement than this.
Rumsfeld and Cheney were a cabal way back when they worked under Ford when they were trying to eliminate the newish Freedom of Information Act (on grounds of “national security” no less!), and theives don’t come any tighter than these two. If Rumsfeld actually ever does “step down”, his buddy will make sure it is done in a way that does not tarnish his image (HA!), and you can bet he will still be co-directing things from behind the scenes.

Posted by: Monolycus | Aug 23 2006 5:02 utc | 19

i have been out touch. i knew they were trying to dump rummy, yet it’s paced like some sort of horserace. who can get to the finish fastest. election day being the finish line. its already a bloody season and it’s august, the month they don’t sell wars. i shudder whats to come leading closer to the due date…or after.
b, you’re stunning
elie, i like your spirit on that one

Posted by: annie | Aug 23 2006 6:41 utc | 20

Taking Rumsfelds job at this point would be like exchanging the last parachute for the controls of an airplane (named the “blue jinn”) engulfed in flames as it spirals down to earth. As 41 would say “aint gonna happen”.

Posted by: anna missed | Aug 23 2006 7:33 utc | 21

This (from Slate) is too good not to share.
http://www.slate.com/id/2148197?nav=wp/” rel=”nofollow ugc”>What a Moronic Presidential Press Conference!
It’s clear Bush doesn’t understand Iraq, or Lebanon, or Gaza, or …

Posted by: Bea | Aug 23 2006 14:33 utc | 22

Here is that link again (since it did not work the first time):
What a Moronic Presidential Press Conference!
Sorry about that.

Posted by: Bea | Aug 23 2006 14:36 utc | 23