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July 25, 2006
WB: War by Tantrum

Billmon:

One can have some sympathy for the Israelis, who love life and don’t want to die (although that hasn’t stopped them from killing a lot of Lebanese and Palestinian civilians) but considering the stakes, a little more aggressiveness on the ground, against an enemy who can shoot back, seems to be necessary. Unless that is, the Israelis really do want a cease fire sooner rather than later, in which case the psychological and political map of the Middle East has just been completely redrawn.

War by Tantrum

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This is fascinating and scary to watch. Israel is acting, uh, like the U.S. Convinced of its might and its enemies weakness, it is proving to the world the exact opposite. These over-reactions only serve to embolden its enemies.
Better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt. Until these recent military blunders, no one other than crazies would have ever thought to challenge American or Israeli power.
Now, it not only appears to be plausible, but in fact the way you must engage if you want to change things. You need nukes, or you need a highly trained and amorphous resistance. Folks who do not pursue these tactics are, simply put, not acting in their own best interests given the current world situation.
How flipping sad, wrong, and avoidable. The U.S. and Israel can lash out all they want, but they are merely providing evidence as to how little they can actually do. Their respective populations, of course, wonder what it is that they must do. Here, we go shopping. In Israel, they hide from rockets and watch their loved ones go off to mandatory military service. Something tells me that a moment of moral clarity is going to arrive a lot sooner in Israel than it is here. Clarity, as in, we can’t be doing this shit anymore, it just doesn’t work.
Finally, I am not equating the position of Israel to that of the U.S. Not at all. I am merely making an analogy regarding massive retaliation that targets people and nations that had nothing to do with the original provocation in an effort to “be tough.”

Posted by: abjectfunk | Jul 25 2006 5:48 utc | 1

Something tells me that a moment of moral clarity is going to arrive a lot sooner in Israel than it is here. Clarity, as in, we can’t be doing this shit anymore, it just doesn’t work.
It is now 60 years that the Israeli’s are doing this shit. So I don´t expect much insight coming in the next 10 or so years.

Posted by: b | Jul 25 2006 6:24 utc | 2

Lieberman is an Israeli, when is he going to the front? Or his children? Firth? Perle?

Posted by: christofay | Jul 25 2006 6:48 utc | 3

Stuck up on a technicality but I think it’s 10 to 1. The term decimated comes from the Roman practice of taking one out of ten legionaires and killing them for a bad game on the gridiron.

Posted by: christofay | Jul 25 2006 6:49 utc | 4

that all you got to say FH?

Posted by: annie | Jul 25 2006 7:07 utc | 5

All this is fascinating. Luttwak in his “Stratergy of the Roman Empire” mentions how the late Romans built large castles but remained within them and the barbarians roamed the fields at will. It is tough to be free when the alternative is death.

Posted by: jlcg | Jul 25 2006 7:28 utc | 6

sorry , my last comment was posted on the wrong thread, just as well
lately i am wondering what kind of deal was struck between israel and the neocons regarding the commitment to rolls played in the build up to ww3 . this is perhaps phase lebanon, we’ve been introduced to phase syria w/ the recent WH encouragment to attack assad, the unwillingness to call for a ceasefire yet promises to clean up the mess w/aid, maybe my head is too far gone but i just wonder if israel is doing it’s prearranged role in preparations for iran. i wonder what the immediate play by play or timetable is. maybe israel can’t back down per prior agreement w/US. too farfetched? maybe their job is to kick a bunch of anthills and create the climate for a US nuke

Posted by: annie | Jul 25 2006 7:36 utc | 7

IDF preparing for civil administration in Lebanon
23 July 2006
Jerusalem Post

Posted by: Noirete | Jul 25 2006 7:57 utc | 8

Red Cross ambulances destroyed in Israeli air strike on rescue mission

The ambulance headlamps were on, the blue light overhead was flashing, and another light illuminated the Red Cross flag when the first Israeli missile hit, shearing off the right leg of the man on the stretcher inside. As he lay screaming beneath fire and smoke, patients and ambulance workers scrambled for safety, crawling over glass in the dark. Then another missile hit the second ambulance.
Even in a war which has turned the roads of south Lebanon into killing zones, Israel’s rocket strike on two clearly marked Red Cross ambulances on Sunday night set a deadly new milestone.
Six ambulance workers were wounded and three generations of the Fawaz family, being transported to hospital from Tibnin with what were originally minor injuries, were left fighting for their lives. Two ambulances were entirely destroyed, their roofs pierced by missiles.
The Lebanese Red Cross, whose ambulance service for south Lebanon is run entirely by volunteers, immediately announced it would cease all rescue missions unless Israel guaranteed their safety through the United Nations or the International Red Cross.

Posted by: b | Jul 25 2006 8:46 utc | 9

Jenkins: The humanitarian urge is morphing into thirst for war

I find it near unbelievable that anyone can propose sending foreign troops back into Lebanon, as in 1958, 1976, 1978 and 1982. The penultimate intervention, by the United Nations, was specifically to “restore international peace and security” and assist the Lebanese government in gaining “a monopoly” of authority along the frontier with Israel. It failed because neither side wanted it to succeed. The only settlements in the region have been a result of wars, whether with Jordan, Syria or Egypt. It is local people, the resolution of force on the ground, that will alone resolve the latest conflagration.
It has become a moral axiom of North Atlantic statesmanship that military potency confers a right and a duty to intervene. A subsidiary premise holds that such intervention will always be for the good. Hint that some conflict might be better resolved if the west stayed aloof and the cry goes up, “What would you do, then? You can’t just do nothing.”
To the feelgood fanatics of London and Washington, leftwing and rightwing alike, they must be the subject of every verb and the world its object. They are the children not so much of Palmerston and Disraeli as of the crusaders, the conquistadors and the Comintern, blessed with massive moral assurance. The idea of leaving wars to resolve themselves, states to find their own leaders and regions to evolve their own equilibrium is to them not just mistaken but immoral.

The idea that Britain (or any other country) enjoys a unique legitimacy in intervening in the affairs of sovereign states is legally doubtful and racially repugnant. Blair’s thesis that any state that is not democratic is somehow a threat to Britain is absurd, as is the implication that a love of freedom cannot speak for itself but must be imposed by force of arms. Quite apart from the madness of this imperialism, the west cannot implement it. It can hold in thrall such puny neo-colonies as Kosovo, East Timor and Sierra Leone. But in Iraq it has failed and in Afghanistan it is failing. The idea of bringing similar bounty to Iran beggars the imagination.
Intervention has brought not peace but violence to these poor peoples. The mendacity of the neocons in claiming gains from intervention is equalled only by the enthusiasm of liberal supremacists to “finish the job”. The humanitarian urge is time-honoured. It “does something” about human distress through charities and NGOs rather than governments and armies. Yet its steady morphing into the paranoid warmongering of western politicians is an international catastrophe. It is fuelling anti-west extremism and negating any humanitarian motive. What democratic cause can justify 1,000 deaths a week from “nation-building” in Iraq?
Of course something must be done about the agonies suffered by the people of the Middle East. Humanity demands it. I would sail the first Red Cross ship into Beirut harbour. But I would sink the first aircraft carrier.

Amen

Posted by: b | Jul 25 2006 9:06 utc | 10

Tisdall: Outside help would be a welcome relief for Israel

Israel’s decision to back the deployment of an international stabilisation force in southern Lebanon may prove a crucial part of the peace jigsaw that was slowly being assembled yesterday. But it is also suits Israel’s changing objectives. At one time, it strongly resisted any attempt to “internationalise” its conflicts with its neighbours. Yet as the costs of occupation have risen, Israel has increasingly sought outside help in restraining and containing its enemies beyond unilaterally demarcated borders. Since 9/11, its leaders have been remarkably successful, with US help, in portraying its struggles as part of the global “war on terror”.

Israel clearly sees an opportunity to have crack international troops pick up the security burden on both the Lebanese and Syrian sides of its borders – and possibly one day in the rump Palestinian territories. In this way, the international community is effectively co-opted. “It doesn’t matter who runs the mission,” said Shimon Peres, Israel’s deputy prime minister. “It’s just important that the mission is accomplished … as long as the border is cleared of Hizbullah missile-launching pads.”
Israel’s ability to persuade less experienced outside interlocutors to adopt its aims and objectives was evident in remarks by foreign office minister Kim Howells, who visited Amman yesterday. “Hizbullah has to either be persuaded or forced to give up its arms and start behaving like a democratic organisation within a democratic Lebanon,” he said.
But just who or what can disarm or even deter Hizbullah in future remains unclear. Even the most sympathetic European countries do not want to do Israel’s fighting for it. Neither, for all its rhetoric, does the US. More sophisticated, longer-range missiles mean Hizbullah could fire over the heads of any intervention force. The group has its tail up right now. It warned yesterday, from Iran of all places, that the fight would continue until “no place is safe” for Israelis. Its statements suggest it would not shy away from an Iraq-style insurgency against “western occupiers”.
Without a negotiated settlement of the Palestine-Israel conflict – the real “root cause” of the Lebanon war – any international force may be on a hiding to nothing.

Posted by: b | Jul 25 2006 9:11 utc | 11

Logically, all Israel can gain by making southern Lebanon a free fire zone is to reduce Hezbollah’s fighting infrastructure in that region for a while.
Which cannot buy but a bit of time before it all has to be done over again. Like clover, Hezbollah grows faster and taller after you cut it back.
No, there’s much more at play here; these are early moves in the Great Game. This foolish little war is stagecraft to make it clearly necessary for America to attack Iran. That’s the goal, about three moves ahead. Israel is just sacrificing a few pawns right now to clear the way forward.
Here’s the gambit.
The American neocons need weakened or compliant states across the Middle East — or else they fail at their Empire, and China becomes ascendant. The way to get weakened or compliant states is to buy them, threaten them, and when necessary attack them.
After bribes and threats fail, go in and blow up every bridge, road, power plant, airport, dam, school, government building, hospital, TV station, ambulance and nursery. Break their kneecaps — and then either leave their nation and populace staggering on while you do as you please in the regiion, or help them to establish a compliant puppet government that just loves you to bits and doesn’t shoot at you too much. Ship in food, paint some schools, and let freedom ring the cash register.
Hey, it’s nuthin’ personal. Just a bit of oil business, capice?
So, let’s walk it backward — the end goal is a shattered or compliant Iran. To get Iran to ‘attack’ Israel-America in some way is the neocon’s Holy Grail right now, since they cannot get Americans to go along with another oil war unless it’s revenge for “another Pearl-Harbor type event.”
Iran has to do something belligerent, has to be driven to attack Americans or threaten oil shipments or some such event. After that, the gloves can come off. Condi can draw her pistol and use it.
Provoking Iran to strike at Israel or America or at Western civilization in general requires seriously bugging them by knocking out their strategic proxies right in their own backyard, the most prominent of which are Syria and Hezbollah.
That means reducing Hezbollah’s turf and fighting infrastructure — southern Lebanon. If necessary, that means attacking infrastructure in Syria, whose sovereignty Iran has sworn to defend.
Both are obviously losing moves to Israel, except insofar as they succeed in starting a war between Iran and America, which Iran can only lose. That makes these early Israeli moves good investments.
Provoking Iran to strike out, or to openly assist and defend their proxies, requires Israel’s participation in a losing local war, fought for the sole purpose of starting a larger war which will greatly benefit Israel.
An Iranian war.
Will Iran take the bait? Absolutely — since the American neocons and Israel absolutely will keep provoking until Iran does strike out. The American Empire is at stake, is at a crossroads with Tehran. America cannot give up on Empire, and yet America cannot dominate the Middle East with Iran intact.
As John Gotti would say, “We gotta whack ’em!”
There will be some incident, some incident that will do, and Mister Bush will give a speech saying America “clearly has no choice” but to take out Iran for the safety of mothers and babies everywhere.
This gambit is falling apart as it proceeds, so I do not think the speech will wait until the end of August.

Posted by: Antifa | Jul 25 2006 9:41 utc | 12

Antifa, such said incident would/could be “Hezzbollah” whacking the shit of the first “international” troops to deploy on Lebanese soil?

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 25 2006 10:17 utc | 13

Perhaps Israel’s unwillingness to take casualties is a tacit admission of the futility of what they’re trying to do. Take a look at the terrorist “infrastructure” — it’s a rocket on a stick.
The idea that you’re going to go in there and permanently remove this capability is madness.

Posted by: Vin Carreo | Jul 25 2006 10:58 utc | 14

And that structure has taken out a naval vessel and 5 aircraft?

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 25 2006 11:21 utc | 15

Some Israeli seem a bit angry about the IDF:
Firepower versus brainpower

Little by little, however, a worrying picture has begun to emerge: Instead of an army that is small but smart, we are catching glimpses of an army that is big, rich and dumb.
Take the bizarre appearances of IDF top brass on television: The commander of the Home Front, who stands there handing out high marks to the Israeli public, seemingly unaware that the moment people sense the army is not functioning, they will take to their heels – not only leaving their homes but fleeing the country, following tens of thousands of tourists who have already hightailed it out of here. The chief of staff, who had to say that “we’re going to turn Lebanon back into what it was 20 years ago,” and now threatens to blow up a 10-floor building for every missile. The district commander who declares: “We don’t do body counts in the middle of a war,” an improved version of the comment of Benny Gantz, who was a brigadier general in 2001: “When you chop down trees, splinters fly,” totally forgetting that the splinters are human beings.
We have a chief of staff who looks like he gets up every morning and agonizes over what to wear – his blue uniform or his khakis. A chief of staff who delivers state-of-the-union addresses that should be the job of the prime minister, and spends whole days touring with Channel 2 correspondent Ronny Daniel. In his observations to the media, Brigadier General (res.) Rafi Noy is right when he says that Hezbollah, with its hidden arsenals, continues to enjoy the upper hand, while the mighty IDF still has far to go to knock it out of commission.

Posted by: b | Jul 25 2006 11:54 utc | 16

Morality is not on our side

There’s practically a holy consensus right now that the war in the North is a just war and that morality is on our side. The bitter truth must be said: this holy consensus is based on short-range selective memory, an introverted worldview, and double standards.
This war is not a just war. Israel is using excessive force without distinguishing between civilian population and enemy, whose sole purpose is extortion. That is not to say that morality and justice are on Hezbollah’s side. Most certainly not. But the fact that Hezbollah “started it” when it kidnapped soldiers from across an international border does not even begin to tilt the scales of justice toward our side.

Hezbollah crossed a border that is recognized by the international community. That is true. What we are forgetting is that ever since our withdrawal from Lebanon, the Israel Air Force has conducted photo-surveillance sorties on a daily basis in Lebanese airspace. While these flights caused no casualties, border violations are border violations. Here too, morality is not on our side.
So much for the history of morality. Now, let’s consider current affairs. What exactly is the difference between launching Katyushas into civilian population centers in Israel and the Israel Air Force bombing population centers in south Beirut, Tyre, Sidon and Tripoli? The IDF has fired thousands of shells into south Lebanon villages, alleging that Hezbollah men are concealed among the civilian population. Approximately 25 Israeli civilians have been killed as a result of Katyusha missiles to date. The number of dead in Lebanon, the vast majority comprised of civilians who have nothing to do with Hezbollah, is more than 300.
Worse yet, bombing infrastructure targets such as power stations, bridges and other civil facilities turns the entire Lebanese civilian population into a victim and hostage, even if we are not physically harming civilians. The use of bombings to achieve a diplomatic goal – namely, coercing the Lebanese government into implementing UN Security Council Resolution 1559 – is an attempt at political blackmail, and no less than the kidnapping of IDF soldiers by Hezbollah is the aim of bringing about a prisoner exchange.
There is a propaganda aspect to this war, and it involves a competition as to who is more miserable. Each side tries to persuade the world that it is more miserable. As in every propaganda campaign, the use of information is selective, distorted and self-righteous. If we want to base our information (or shall we call it propaganda?) policy on the assumption that the international environment is going to buy the dubious merchandise that we are selling, be it out of ignorance or hypocrisy, then fine. But in terms of our own national soul searching, we owe ourselves to confront the bitter truth – maybe we will win this conflict on the military field, maybe we will make some diplomatic gains, but on the moral plane, we have no advantage, and we have no special status.
The writer is a professor of political science at Tel Aviv university.

Posted by: b | Jul 25 2006 11:59 utc | 17

“Both are obviously losing moves to Israel, except insofar as they succeed in starting a war between Iran and America, which Iran can only lose. That makes these early Israeli moves good investments.”
Unless…unless, the new allies China and Russia strongly object. Of course they may be sitting on the side lines waiting and watching Israel and Jerusalem West completely debilitate themselves… Jacking off.

Posted by: pb | Jul 25 2006 15:53 utc | 18

WH press release: Hit Syria

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 25 2006 16:04 utc | 19

After reading Antifa’s post, I don’t see how “whacking Iran” does anything but accelerate current developments, effectively removing “Petrodollars” from the dictionary, if you will. Consider:
At the recent G-8 summit, for example, the leaders of Russia, China and India held a separate trilateral summit of their own. Afterwards, Chinese President Hu Jianto declared there was great potential for the three countries to co-operate in economic development, energy, science and technology.
 
These countries are moving beyond the point where they will follow the U.S. or G-8 lead. Instead, they are drafting their own agenda for the future, pointing to a much different global economy and geopolitical structure in the years ahead.
 
What was notable about the G-8 leaders’ summit in St. Petersburg was that it could only deal with its key issues when it met, through its so-called Outreach, with the New World leaders of China, India, Brazil, Mexico and South Africa. It was here, for example, that agreement was reached for a serious effort to complete global trade talks this year.
 
Earlier this year, the leaders of the Shanghai Co-operation Organization — China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyz, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan — met in Shanghai to discuss co-operation on measures to fight crime and terrorism, but they also dealt with economic development and energy. India, Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan sent observers.
 
In another development, the current edition of The McKinsey Quarterly reports how Middle East oil producers are employing a growing share of their petrodollars to develop new ties with Asia. Rather than recycling all those dollars through Western banks, these oil-rich countries are investing an increasing proportion in the long-term growth of Asia.
 
As the McKinsey article reported, “Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the ruler of Dubai, used a recent state visit to Pakistan to announce a multibillion-dollar package of infrastructure, property, and other investments.
 
Prominent Saudi investors led by Prince Alwaleed bin Talal are paying $2 billion (U.S.) for a stake in China’s second-largest state-owned bank. Bahrain’s Gulf Finance House wants to invest up to $1 billion in Singapore’s financial, health, tourism, and leisure industries.”
 
Earlier this year, a telecommunications group from the United Arab Emirates paid $2.6 billion for a controlling share of Pakistan Telecommunications.
 
At the same time, Asian countries are looking to cash in on the huge infrastructure and other needs of the oil- and cash-rich countries of the Middle East. The gulf states are expected to invest at least $500 billion over the next five years in electricity, highways, telecommunications and water, as well as agriculture, education, health care, and information technology.
 
In Dubai, a group of Chinese companies has established a mini-city, ChinaMex Mart, to distribute Chinese products, and the big Korean companies are busy there as well.
 
There are several reasons negotiations for a new World Trade Organization agreement, the Doha round, has stalled. But one is that the new economic players will no longer play by the old world rules, which had meant accepting an agreement imposed by the United States and Europe.
 
As Martin Jacques, a research fellow at the Asia Research Centre in the London School of Economics argues, with China’s 2001 entry into the WTO, along with the growing power of India, the election of a strong Brazilian president, and the decision of South Africa to join with them, “the developing countries have begun to acquire a powerful voice, substantial bargaining presence, and a self-confidence in their ability to resist Western and Japanese pressures.”
 
So the future global trading system will have to be one that reflects their interests as well.
 
Another indication of the shift in world power is that the International Monetary Fund is in the process of realigning its voting power to better reflect the emerging 21st century. Countries such as China, South Korea, Mexico and Turkey, as well as the Africa, should gain a larger share of votes while Europe, the United States, Canada and Japan will be expected to lose voting power.
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Posted by: jj | Jul 25 2006 16:33 utc | 20

birth pangs: I looked it up. ::
For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places:
8: all this is but the beginning of the birth-pangs.
9: Then they will deliver you up to tribulation, and put you to death; and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake.
10: And then many will fall away, and betray one another, and hate one another.
11: And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray.
12: And because wickedness is multiplied, most men’s love will grow cold.
13: But he who endures to the end will be saved.
Matthew, from The Holy Bible, Revised Standard version, University of Virginia Library, Chap. 24, lines as shown.
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Posted by: Noirette | Jul 25 2006 17:40 utc | 21

Niorette, was “birth pangs” mentioned in Revelations?

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 25 2006 17:58 utc | 22

International Committee of the Red Cross’s own report on bombing of ambulances in South Lebanon via Reuters (24 July):

The Society reported five security incidents in recent days affecting ambulances, events that highlight the obligation to spare those engaged in medical work.

Posted by: Dismal Science | Jul 25 2006 18:08 utc | 23

Kudos to jj for pointing out that the Orient is in the inside lane, ready to take the lead from Europe and America.
Even Latin America is moving up on the backstretch, aiming for a view of the future unobstructed by America’s rear end.
And jj correctly predicts that whacking the shit out of Iran will only accelerate this gargantuan economic trend. Absolutely right.
If we lose.
Consider what Cheney and Rumsfeld and Perle n Feith n Wolfowitz n Cambone n all them other neocons make of jj’s information.
Opportunity. The big brass ring.
Unable to afford the table stakes, we kick over the table, whack Iran and Syria, gain dominance over the Caspian region — and when the smoke clears China, India and Russia and whomever else wants Middle East oil will HAVE TO come through us for their petrol or fight us for it.
And no one can fight us, or beat us, so America wins, uber alles. The neocons are the heroes of American history, God is in his heaven, and all’s right with the world.
According to Cheney’s careful prosthesis, we are going to lose the global petro struggle if we remain civilized about our decline, and do nothing impolite. So, why the hell not shoot off everything we’ve got and see if we don’t win sumpin’ hey?
We’re gonna lose the farm anyway, Billy Bob, so go ahead and bet the farm.
What’s the worst that could happen, hey?

Posted by: Antifa | Jul 25 2006 18:23 utc | 24

@Antifa – China, India and Russia and whomever else wants Middle East oil will HAVE TO come through us for their petrol or fight us for it
When was the last time you did look at Russias oil and gas reserves? Russia can easily, with Indian capital and Chinese labor, support those economies with enough stuff to burn. Siberia is an nearly empty land. The Chinese are already taking it over by silent immigration. Global warming will make available huge oil deposits in former permafrost areas.
Without taking Moscow down, it will be nearly impossible to really squeeze China and India.

Posted by: b | Jul 25 2006 20:22 utc | 25

Right you are, B.
But will Russia happily watch America dominate their back yard?
The oil under the ME will not be there in two decades. During those two decades, everyone will want to be the ones extracting it and selling it.
Starting with America. Only after America is knocked off their petro-dollar perch can others play King of the Mountain.

Posted by: Antifa | Jul 25 2006 21:21 utc | 26

@Antifa – for petrodollars see jj’s post above. That slight will come.

Posted by: b | Jul 25 2006 21:40 utc | 27

The oil under the ME will not be there in two decades. During those two decades, everyone will want to be the ones extracting it and selling it.
And after that, then what?
By the way, because of increased global energy demand, it’s quite possibly much less than two decades of the stuff left.

Posted by: gylangirl | Jul 26 2006 1:14 utc | 28

Everyone is understandably focused on making transition to new culture not based on cheap energy. But does anyone know anything about other essential resources – aside from water – minerals, etc. that are required for indust. civ? ie. Haven’t we used up pretty much everything over the last century, when we were too clever for our own long term survival?
Hi, Gylangirl, glad you stopped by. I thght. of you when I saw this the other day. Since we don’t have a live OT, I’ll post this here. It’s a really amazing story of a couple in Pasadena (Ca – outside of L.A.). He had started a lawn service & they decided to see how much of their own food they could grow. They live on a plot in the city – plot is 1/5 of acre; 1/10th acre available for cultivation…Not much, yet they grow 3 TONS of food a year on it!!!!!!!!! Back(yard) to the land: Family grows 3 tons food on 1/10th acre urban plot

Posted by: jj | Jul 26 2006 1:47 utc | 29

john pilger on the anderson coopers

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 26 2006 2:02 utc | 30

& there’s anderson cooper, top of the hour, sucking a little bit of idf cock in the form of the israeli ambassadaor to the u n who shamelessly tries to shift blame to koffi annan

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 26 2006 2:08 utc | 31