
by b real
Swamp Dreams I (full view – 300 kb)
Swamp Dreams II (full view – 300 kb)
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July 7, 2006
Swamp Dreams
by b real Swamp Dreams I (full view – 300 kb)
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Spectacular. B real, how do you do this? I mean, how did this image come to you? I love this, but could never have created it? Perhaps you could give us a tiny bit of insight into the creative process. Posted by: Aigin | Jul 7 2006 17:53 utc | 3 beq- yes. good eye! Posted by: b real | Jul 7 2006 19:34 utc | 6 excellent, i love it. how did you do it? is it water? the deep green is one of my favorite colors. how big is the area Posted by: annie | Jul 7 2006 19:35 utc | 7 Niiice! Brings me back to time spent rowing through the reeds of a salt marsh. Be it photograph? Oils? Encaustic? Thanks for sharing, b real. Love how organic it feels, and somehow historic and even pastoral, like a view into the canal system of an ancient civilization. Posted by: conchita | Jul 7 2006 20:58 utc | 8 bush’s fevered swamp dream today- in an appearance he talked about all the jobs created (I don’t have the data, but I would bet big money those jobs are service sector.) Oh, I just want to jump in….a visual antidote to to the heat, I feel cooler just looking at it. I love this! Posted by: Amurra | Jul 7 2006 23:22 utc | 10 b real, in catching up on internet reading i missed while computerless last week i came across a post on a blog penned by a wonderful writer who writes under the name exmearden. in this post she writes of rivers and swamps and questions and it struck me as fortuitous that i should bump into it in the context of your swamp dreams, so i am linking to it and a fine piece of writing by norman maclean in case anyone else wants to meander over there. Posted by: conchita | Jul 8 2006 3:10 utc | 11 yes, these are photographs. au naturale. the only post-production work necessary was to crop, resample, and lighten each image just a smidgen so that they weren’t too dark. otherwise, in this particular series i limit myself strictly to the documentation of alternative ways of seeing the natural world as it presents itself to us. first nature can be sooo sublime. Posted by: b real | Jul 8 2006 6:16 utc | 12 thank you for drawing my attention to the exme essay, conchita! Posted by: b real | Jul 8 2006 6:30 utc | 13 abstract expressionism in nature, fluid, makes me thirsty. Posted by: anna missed | Jul 8 2006 8:52 utc | 14 holy shit, I could of swore I could see the gesso mixing with the green goopy acrylic. Posted by: jonku | Jul 8 2006 10:46 utc | 15 beq, fauxreal, annie, noirette, conchita — you guys got it right away; now that b real said it’s a photo I can see the perspective, where the top of the frame is wider than the bottom. But I first saw a painting. Posted by: jonku | Jul 8 2006 10:55 utc | 16 jonku Posted by: r’giap | Jul 8 2006 12:31 utc | 17 That is the pretty. As we are having somewhat of a drought right now here in little ol England, water is beginning to look exceptionally beautiful in all its forms. Posted by: Dismal Science | Jul 8 2006 13:45 utc | 19 Alas, if ya ever been down ‘nawlins way, you know that there is a posionous beauty to the swamps. Ever get caught in a “gator hole” staring into a gator’s eyes or a nest of water moccasin the quite beauty turns fast into heart pounding terror. They (these boggs), can be deceiving , and quite dangerous. As many southern hassocks and bogs, in mississippi, georgia, florida etc… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 8 2006 15:04 utc | 20 Amos Moses Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 8 2006 16:03 utc | 21 i like the reflection of the clouds in the top rt corner of SD1. very dreamlike Posted by: annie | Jul 8 2006 16:43 utc | 22 psych, dude. but, I’m disappointed when the object of art which seems nonidiomatic and abstract, is revealed to be a photo of something. it loses somehow the power of itself as object. Posted by: slothrop | Jul 8 2006 17:43 utc | 23 yeah, slothrop, I almost didn’t say it was a photo (well, didn’t directly), because, like jonku, I can see the paint. you just have to keep from reading the comments to maintain the illusion…in more ways than one…considering the content of most comments on this site. Maybe “Quagmire Dreams”? I swear I see faces in there, and hands, etc. Posted by: correlator | Jul 8 2006 23:22 utc | 25
in the end, it is that concept of the aura to which benjamin refers that i desire to preserve, if possible at this point. our manipulative commodity cultures are already saturated in countless diembodied images/objects which, separated from their original sources, peeling surface form from matter & extinguishing true context, contribute to our collective alienation from reality, ourselves & the natural world. hopefully, the integration of the image w/ its source, instead of being a buzzkill, stimulates further appreciation & awareness of the real world that (still) resides outside the artificial illusions (deceptions) of modern life. don’t see them as objects, but, instead, as another way of seeing. Posted by: b real | Jul 9 2006 0:18 utc | 26 I’m disappointed when the object of art which seems nonidiomatic and abstract, is revealed to be a photo of something Posted by: annie | Jul 9 2006 1:06 utc | 27 hehe. Posted by: slothrop | Jul 9 2006 1:14 utc | 28 i appreciate it much more knowing that it is ‘real’. i think to replicate nature as i see it has always been one of my goals as an artist. but to capture nature as it is, and surprise the viewer, this is paramount in photography imho. Posted by: annie | Jul 9 2006 1:14 utc | 29 b real Posted by: r’giap | Jul 9 2006 1:16 utc | 30 great abstract art has a way of compelling a certain reaction from the audience as if the matter of the subjective interpretation is impossible. the feeling is exhilirating and consternating when it happens. so, when I looked at your piece, I wantted it to dissolve the certainty of my own subjectivity, but that ended when I realized it was a photograph, that is the distance of the sign and signified, nature and art, art and me, coincided in a disappointing moment. Posted by: slothrop | Jul 9 2006 1:28 utc | 31 in the end, it is that concept of the aura to which benjamin refers that i desire to preserve, if possible at this point. Posted by: annie | Jul 9 2006 1:36 utc | 32 I’m w/ correlator #25 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 9 2006 1:46 utc | 33 okay, i am going to try something. i have been thinking about b real’s statement that in this case he is limiting himself “strictly to the documentation of alternative ways of seeing the natural world as it presents itself to us” since i read it earlier today. in this comment i would like to share my thoughts about that and then i will go back and read what walter benjamin, annie, r’giap, etc., have to say and possibly then i will write something additional. Posted by: conchita | Jul 9 2006 1:49 utc | 34 I am enjoying this very much. I don’t have the words; all of you say it so well. As the daughter of a photographer, I can only say that I have witnessed it’s (photography) power all of my life. It forces us to see reality whether it is pretty or not. More photography. please. (you too, b). Posted by: beq | Jul 9 2006 2:02 utc | 35 an order that is in & of itself materialist Posted by: annie | Jul 9 2006 2:04 utc | 36 whoops, some of those a r’giaps words up there, its the vino Posted by: annie | Jul 9 2006 2:06 utc | 37 slothrop, wondering why do you think you “feel cheated when I discover that what appears to be abstract art is swiftly betrayed as photography?” photography came to be recognized as an art form late in the game, partially because it was not invented until the 1820s, but also i suspect because, unless you are the photographer operating the camera and later working in the darkroom or with photoshop, it does not seem to require the direct contact with the image involved in drawing or painting, for example. it is interesting to me in this case how pleased i am that it is a photograph and a direct representation of nature not an interpretation of it. the crunchiness of the leaves in the reflection makes me wonder what kind of tree and how did they hang off the branch to look so textural. i am drawn to the leaves themselves and the silkiness of the water rather than someone’s process with paint or encaustic to duplicate or interpret reality and establish the illusion of texture. Posted by: conchita | Jul 9 2006 2:07 utc | 38 For myself, I know that art –often times– merely reflects the inner psyche of the person viewing it.. Posted by: slothrop | Jul 9 2006 2:11 utc | 39 put another way: when I quickly realized it was a photo, I quickly realized both the photography and myself as mediations of what is beautiful. I was disappointed by this unavoidable feeling of interpretive control. Posted by: slothrop | Jul 9 2006 2:16 utc | 40 slothrop, i am feeling a tad obtuse tonight, can you break that down a little for my poor brain? Posted by: conchita | Jul 9 2006 2:19 utc | 41 Maybe it’s both slothrop? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 9 2006 2:20 utc | 42 I take it back, brealo. It is your fault, goddamnit. Posted by: slothrop | Jul 9 2006 2:20 utc | 44 slothrop, but why do you feel that way because it is a photograph? particularly a photograph that is documenting more than interpreting or making a statement? i know there is the filter of b real’s perspective and additionally, the camera, but it seems more direct to me than a painting would be. Posted by: conchita | Jul 9 2006 2:23 utc | 45 uncle, never before encountered “schrodinger’s cat” concept. cool. thanks to you and wikipedia i just learned something new tonight. 😉 Posted by: conchita | Jul 9 2006 2:27 utc | 46 wonder is born of a materialist convergence which is in fact a merging of the naissance of ‘knowing’ & of a dialectical humility before that ‘knowing’ Posted by: r’giap | Jul 9 2006 2:28 utc | 47 conchita Posted by: slothrop | Jul 9 2006 2:42 utc | 48 hehe. Posted by: slothrop | Jul 9 2006 2:44 utc | 50 slothrop, more whiskey good. no, i was not questioning you as a critic, i really did not understand what you meant and needed a little help. i do not mean to be pressing you, but i am obviously wondering why the image as a photograph makes you feel differently. this is not to find fault with your point of view, just to understand it better. i happen to have begun a love affair with photography a few years ago and in doing my own work this past year went to places with photography that i did not know existed for me. purely subjective experience here. for me the only shitty critic is one who doesn’t look or speak. having participated in many a critique – it is all in how we see things. not sure if any of that made any sense. more wine for me. Posted by: conchita | Jul 9 2006 2:53 utc | 51 I thought is was a photo of green glass. Up really close. Cool. Beautiful. Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Jul 9 2006 4:16 utc | 52 slothrop- you are not taking photography for its value. b real is using a mechanical form to represent a liquid form, and doing so very well. the water could be quicksilver. but it’s not. it’s probably not even silver nitrate anymore…I don’t know, b real…what did you use for this? fascinating thoughts! thanks all.
@annie
Posted by: b real | Jul 9 2006 8:22 utc | 54 oh. yeah I screwed up. reproduction improves access by reducing scarcity. in the context of new media uses, decommodification occurs, though. but, he says nothing as far as I recalll about the end of commodities. Posted by: slothrop | Jul 9 2006 14:40 utc | 55 b real, thanks for the link to the smaller majority. my reaction was a mix of cool and eeew gross! i can’t seem to reconcile my childhood fondness for exploring the swamps and bullfrog pond behind our house with my reaction to reading an article in the times in december about how obiquitous bedbugs are. the kid and the adult in me would like to know “santa, can i have a lens like that for christmas?” Posted by: conchita | Jul 10 2006 3:45 utc | 56 to me, time is a sequence of miniscule separate realities in which matter is organized in a particular way. so, in a upsidedown version of quantum life, time only exists because you “freeze” it. –and of course we know by freezing it, or acting upon it, you change that matter, so what it was at that time will, most probably, never be again. Art talk good mmmmm,I think the real power in abstract art comes when it achieves a level of representation, not in the sense of an image of something recognizable per say — but a representation, call it a genetic representation, or as Sartre might say, a (pregnant) facticity, or a resultant thing — that runs a parallel to a thing of nature stripped of its name and casual meaning, like the protagonist in Nausea looking at the tree roots that overcome and overflow (de-trope) our (his) assumed pedestrian knowledge of such things. And where there is anxiety, there is fertile soil for art. Abstract art, is a perfect vehicle then, to represent the struggle, or the genisis, of stuff (material) in the will to become — meaningful. For me, this is the best of a Pollack, a Kline, Rothko, or even a Cy Twombly, where the will to representation, is the representation (in its many varied manifestations). Posted by: anna missed | Jul 10 2006 9:47 utc | 62 anna missed, i think you have hit on something with the apparent lack of trace of processes with photography. perhaps the fact that nearly each and everyone of us possesses “kodak moments” also makes photography so accessible as to be nearly quotidian. i wonder if people in general give conscious thought to the images they are creating when their fingers are on the shutter button. if they don’t, then they may not realize that others do. cameras have become a staple in developed societies and people use them more readily and they are less challenging to most than a set of oils and a brush. Posted by: conchita | Jul 11 2006 2:57 utc | 65 from the reproduction essay:
I suppose my reaction to your picture is a result of my own “adjustment” to what I expect to be a dissembling effect of a photography of nature introduced to my perception as a piece of abstract art. I really don’t know now what would account for my response. Posted by: slothrop | Jul 11 2006 15:35 utc | 66 |
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