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Steve Clemon reckons it’s A BAD IDEA sending a huge target to rescue US citizens from being killed by their greatest ally.

But there are players on all sides of this conflict that may find a floating, slow, and poorly defended elephant of a ship too tempting of a target. Real or contrived, any potential attack would look like a Hezbollah attack.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 17 2006 17:22 utc | 1

Pro-Israel PAC Contributions to 2006 Congressional Candidates
U.S. sends cruise ship for Lebanon evacuees
The “Lusitania II”?
Syria poised to strike back
Air force on high alert; government issues warning
“Any aggression against Syria will be met with a firm and direct response whose timing and methods are unlimited,” Bilal was quoted as saying by Syria’s official news agency, SANA.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 17:45 utc | 2

Mr President your mike is still on!
Bush Curses Hezbollah [Syria] During G8 Luncheon
the President and the Prime Minister are in Russia eating brie, discussing geopolitics, leaving their mics open, and whatnot…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 17:55 utc | 3

The “Lusitania II”?
Nope, the USS LIBERTY II

Posted by: Ensley | Jul 17 2006 18:13 utc | 4

more details in the NYT version
Awww. On breaks from turning the world to shit, they buy each other sweaters. That is so cute.
This was an amusing/disturbing footnote to a big news day, but now CNN has it as the top story.
Oh yeah, there was a tsunami and some people died…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 18:16 utc | 5

In news that means something…
U.S. Government Increasingly Blocking Entry at the Border Because of Ideology, ACLU Says

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 18:20 utc | 6

I often see on various posts, not only on MoA, but other places also, that the U.S. gives about equal aid to Egypt and Israel.
I don’t believe this on its face, plus I understand that many “special considerations” are given to Israel, such as money is first to be received, loans are sometimes forgiven (not counted as aid), often no strings attached to the aid to Israel, $/capita, and so on and so on.
I don’t have any figures or official government websites to back up my suspicions. Is there any link that would help me better understand the situation or confirm what is really going on? Just asking.

Posted by: Rick Happ | Jul 17 2006 18:39 utc | 7

Transcript: Full Text of Bush’s Private Exchange at G-8 Summit
This to the Chinese very intelligent and knowledgable chief Hu Jintao

Bush : Gotta go home. Got something to do tonight. Go to the airport, get on the airplane and go home. How about you? Where are you going? Home?
Bush : This is your neighborhood. It doesn’t take you long to get home. How long does it take you to get home?
Reply is inaudible.
Bush : “Eight hours? Me too. Russia’s a big country and you’re a big country.”
At this point, the president seems to bring someone else into the conversation.
Bush : It takes him eight hours to fly home.
He turns his attention to a server.
Bush : No, Diet Coke, Diet Coke.
He turns back to whomever he was talking with.
Bush : It takes him eight hours to fly home. Eight hours. Russia’s big and so is China.

Beijing in the “neighbourhood” of Petersberg. What a jerk.

Posted by: b | Jul 17 2006 18:48 utc | 8

Regarding post 3, ABC News headline:
Not using a modern or subjective type wikipedia definition, but a classical definiton of cursing is damming something. I always understood using the word “shit” as vulgar, but not cursing.
Just wondering why ABC used this inference?

Posted by: Rick Happ | Jul 17 2006 18:49 utc | 9

@Rick Happ
I’m sure I have info on that, however, I’m in the process of doing something else and will look later, in the meantime This may help…
Until I can dedicate more time to search my records..

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 18:51 utc | 10

Rick, I wanted to comment on someone saying that Egypt receives as much US aid as Israel.
A general accounting is very difficult, because US aid to Israel is dressed up in all kinds of fancy ways… Also mainstream media publish complete nonsense, often not even in the correct numerical ball park. Its a hard topic to argue, and I don’t propose to, except to say that any serious article on the topic will point out that ‘official’ aid to Egypt is much smaller than that to Israel. 2/3 is a good rule of thumb. The official figures for many years conform.
The two situations are not comparable.
Aid to Egypt serves to keep it servile and quiet. It is more or less straight aid, free cash for the rulers, who are scared to loose it. It might even be seen as a ‘peace payment’. (footnotes skipped..) The spending is overseen and ‘controlled.’
To Israel..
Private charities, no tax paid on them in the US.
US aid to Israel, in a way, is internal to the US: money donated in the US to promote Zionist or pro-Israel candidates, in the US itself. That is money well spent (arguably it is not from the tax payer’s pocket.)
Aid to Israel is octopus – like, invading every single sector – military; industrial, manufacturing, commercial in general; loans, debt relief, loan repayment, housing loans; medical, etc. Also, afaik, the US does not require Israel to buy US goods in return for aid, as it does for others, costing jobs in the US and requires some Gvmt. agenices to buy Israeli, though I am not sure how that works (or if it is true.) They also send Israeli contractors to work on – other gifts, loans, projects. The trade agreement with Jordan means that “made in Israel” products sold in the US …are made in Jordan. And so on… I’m not aware of attempts to seriously unwind this tangled snarl… (The Israeli elites who must have pretty good idea.)
(I don’t have expert knowledge, this is just from my rather desultory reading.)

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 17 2006 18:51 utc | 11

b,
“Jerk” with a captiol J

Posted by: Rick Happ | Jul 17 2006 18:52 utc | 12

the peacock rpt: As Hezbollah Rains Rockets on Israel, DoD Steps Up Plans to Upgrade Israeli Air Force Bases

The U.S. Dept. of Defense this past week elevated its plans to help modernize several Israeli Air Force bases, where the construction of new facilities and the expansion of runways and other aerospace infrastructure will accommodate Israel’s growing inventory of fighter jets.

artin-produced Sufa (“Storm”) and Suefa (“Thunderstorm”) F-16I jets — initially entailed a projected $10 million infrastructure investment into Ramon Air Force Base (AFB), (about 50 kilometers south of Beer-Sheba), Palmachim AFB (15 km south of Tel-Aviv) and Hazerim AFB (5 km west of Beer-Sheba). DoD also planned to facilitate a separate $10 million package for Nevatim AFB, located about 25 km east of Beer-Sheba.
TPR has learned that the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers on July 13 added an additional endeavor to the SUFA 4 project, namely the construction of laboratories and “clean rooms,” which typically are used for microelectronics production and maintenance, within an unidentified, 10-story facility in Givayatim, Israel. The addition of this segment increased the projected total of SUFA-4 to $25 million, not including the $10 million upgrade at Nevatim AFB.

With the additional 102 new F-16Is, Israel will operate a total of 362 F-16s – the largest fleet of F-16s in the world outside of the United States Air Force.”

also from TPR: Contractor Gets Millions for Radio, TV, Leaflet PSYOPS Technology Project

A $100 million contract to support psychological operations (PSYOPS) that U.S. Special Forces carry out internationally via aerial leafleting and radio and TV broadcasts has been awarded to CACI International, a Virginia-based vendor for Defense and Homeland Security IT services. CACI will provide up to four years of PSYOPS technology- and other electronic systems-assistance to the U.S. Navy Air Warfare Center, whose Special Communications Requirements (SCR) Division is tasked with designing and maintaining federal systems for C4ISR – command, control, computers, communications, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance.
Although the Navy and the Pentagon publicly earlier this week began spinning the award by emphasizing the vague provision of C4ISR services to the military, a closer inspection of related contracting documents reveals an expanded list of possible recipients of the SCR unit’s work, including the White House Communications Agency, the FBI, and “other federal agencies” that the documents did not identify.

on a related not, perhaps…?
wapo: The Bold Outlines Of a Plot: Adapted as a Comic Book, The 9/11 Commission Report Hits Home Anew

If the mood on the plane that crashed into the side of the Pentagon, American Airlines Flight 77, could have been a color, it would have been a soft, translucent tan, according to a comic book about the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Yes, that’s right, a comic about the attacks is set for publication late next month.
Industry veterans Sid Jacobson and Ernie Colón have collaborated to produce “The 9/11 Report: A Graphic Adaptation,” which is being published by Hill and Wang, the nonfiction imprint of Farrar, Straus and Giroux.
The book condenses the nearly 600-page federal report released by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States to fewer than 150 pages, and the creators say they hope their book will help attract young readers and others who might be overwhelmed by the original document.

and as’ad abukhalil’s angry arab news service has been speaking truth w/ precision lately, taking on the media, the nation, robert fisk, and even (gulp) amy goodman (on this morning’s democracynow)

Posted by: b real | Jul 17 2006 18:54 utc | 13

A Conservative Total for U.S. Aid to Israel: $91 Billion—and Counting I got more, but it will have to wait…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 18:55 utc | 14

@Rick – here is one partisan calculation (from scanning it it looks ok) of US aid to Israel. A more neutral source. A CSM report.
Israel gets at least double the help Egypt gets. But this distinction is a bit confused as the only reason militray “aid” money is given to Egypt is to keep Egypt from attacking Israel again.
That “aid” was established after Egypt signed the peace treaty with Israel. (I bet there is some clause in that treaty that demands this “aid”). Egypt spends the money to by US weapons that help to keep down its populations demand.
Arguably – the many given by the US to Egypt is money given in Israels interest.

Posted by: b | Jul 17 2006 19:01 utc | 16

just witnessed einstein being interviewed by an ape on bbc
saeb erekat tried his level best to speak to some kind of animal from the bbc that kept on bleating talkingpoints direct from whitehouse & no 10
at one point it becomes clear that under the strain of events saeb was weeping – not that the ape would notice – & declared frankly that in his experience as a negotiator there never has been a worse moment
where can we return to? he sd
i am inflicting a level of cruelty on myself by watching this sea of shit – without exception their commentators are hacks, jackalls & worms
& the dumb equation of a few hezbollah roman candles with the force that the i d f is bringing to bear is ridiculously cruel

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 17 2006 19:06 utc | 17

Billions for Israel, Nothing for Americans

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 19:15 utc | 18

Some of the things I have read – all net, mixed bag, different kinds of sources:
General Offical documents are interesting:
CRS report for Congress: Foreign Aid (2004) – **PDF**
this site is a standard (many links to many docs, including official):
Wremea.com
see this article for example
Some ‘numbers’ from the Jewish virtual Library
Christian Science Monitor, general
Palestine Monitor, Fact sheets
Zunes

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 17 2006 19:17 utc | 19

Norette and Uncle $cam:
Thanks for responding. Norette, it is good to know you had similar ideas regarding some posts.
I hope from all my posts people don’t think I am anti-Semite. Again, I usually like to think in the “Robin Hood” frame of mind when considering World Aid. And Israel is not what I consider the poor of the poor who need help. Maybe I’m wrong, but I have not seen much, if any, evidence to the contrary. I have never been to Israel, but the cities look very modern on TV and I know they have good industries. Oh well, just wondering.

Posted by: RIck Happ | Jul 17 2006 19:17 utc | 20

Uncle $cam, is the comparison based on per-capita, or is it just a flat amount? Egypt’s population is over 70,000,000 and Israel’s only 6,000,000 (are they including Gaza and the West Bank is that six million, Palestinians et al, as well?)
Even if they were getting the same flat amount, Israel is technically getting ten times what Egypt gets.

Posted by: Ensley | Jul 17 2006 19:18 utc | 21

Congress Seeks to Cut Food Aid for Poor

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 19:19 utc | 22

It is always tabulated as a flat amount by the US Gov/Press.
Per capita is taboo since early on in Baby Bush first term.
And not only for Aid.

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 17 2006 19:26 utc | 23

Ensley,
Thanks for the population statistics. It is stunning when one looks on a per person basis!

Posted by: Rick Happ | Jul 17 2006 19:33 utc | 24

To continue a little on the topic of aid in a personal way:
Many of the Israelis of the professional classes that I have met, both here and in Isr. have an attitude towards the US that is pitying, scornful and grasping; and I have seen some of them treat the US as a doddering Sugar Daddy, successfully.
Good Old Sam, wink wink. This attitude reminded me of a Gvmt. job I had long ago, where the workers treated the State in the same way, as they did not need to perfom and Nanny would pay all the bills, including, I am sad to say, extravagant fraudulent ones.. – a weak, wimpy, blind overseer is the idea…
A difference, though: In the case of the US, US attitudes mirror the Israeli ones, as the US paints Israel as a worthy victim, an entity deserving of all largesse (as it is in a bad position), etc. etc. Not so with the State, in my personal example, as it slowly woke and crackdown dawned, much to the agonised astonishment of the freeloaders.
The reason for the unhealthy US-Isr. symbiosis are hard to tease out. A bit like one of those old psychological tests, where free interpretation reveals more about the interpreter than the object itself!
I think the Israelis are, taking a very long term view, amongst the prime losers. (Just in case anyone should accuse me of calling “Jews” freeloaders, which I most emphatically am not.)
People in Israel are not happy – the workers in my example weren’t either.

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 17 2006 19:43 utc | 25

I dunno which Israelis you run into, but I have encountered exactly the same attitude among government workers of other US client states and certainly do not see that attitude in Israelis working for private companies. If you ever had the misfortune to meet people from the pre-Chavez Venezuela state oild company, you would know what I mean.
On the other hand, contempt for the US is way up. I see that everywhere now.

Posted by: citizen k | Jul 17 2006 19:55 utc | 26

I went looking for the article I read about a year ago in a few major newspapers and couldn’t find it. It was about Israel being very upset because Israelis were leaving the country in record numbers to go live in Europe, America, etc. It was almost entirely members of the middle and upper classes rather than poor recent immigrants to the country. As I’ve said ad nauseum, my memory is not as good as it was even a few years ago, but I seem to remember a figure greater than 100,000 per year abandoning ship because of all the violence in both directions and the poor economy.
Maybe someone else will remember where to find it.

Posted by: Ensley | Jul 17 2006 20:04 utc | 27

Gen. William Odom A reverse domino theory may be playing out in the Middle East

The escalating conflict between Israel and Hezbollah and Hamas could become a new Arab-Israeli War. And it is precisely our actions in Iraq that have opened the door for Iran and Syria to support Hezbollah and Hamas actions without much to fear from the U.S.

In the succinct language of military strategy, strategic withdrawals often involve tactical defeats but open the way to counteroffensives and “strategic success.” The domino theory, invoked to avoid “tactical defeats,” can easily obscure the wisdom of a strategic withdrawal and instead pave the way to “strategic defeat.”
Is the domino theory valid for the Middle East? No, not any more than it was in Vietnam. But a reverse domino theory is. The longer the U.S. stays in Iraq, the more likely the collapse of the secular regimes in those Muslim nations, and the more likely a full-scale war between Israel and its neighbors. It’s American departure from Iraq that could prevent it.

Posted by: b | Jul 17 2006 20:44 utc | 28

What is actually happening is that the leading Israeli class is shrinking, because it is no longer ready to pay for the caprices of the government. It is no longer willing to bear the burden of the settlements and the burden of the transfer payments. But what we’re getting in the meantime is not a revolt in the streets, it’s a quiet revolt of people leaving, getting out. It’s a revolt of taking the laptop and the diskette and moving on. So if you look up and look around, you will see that the only people who are staying here are those who have no other option. The economically weak and the fundamentalists are staying. Before our eyes Israel is becoming ultra-Orthodox, nationalist and Arab. It is becoming a society that has no sense of a future, no narrative and no forces to maintain itself.

Ensley, this might help

Posted by: gmac | Jul 17 2006 21:50 utc | 29

seeing, over & over, that piece of shit, that passes himself off as president of the us & his most servile lackey, blair – has kept me in high dudgeon all day
the circus that is modern television – the way it elevated the simply stupid & hides the human
if i was an unengaged arab in the cities or towns of egypt, of tunisia, of morrocco & of algeria – if i were a simple working person in any of the arab or persian world – watching these fools would turn me into a militant – simply out of good taste – let alone human decency
these jokes that call themselves journalist with their tin hats, their kevlar vests & their tounges dipped in the poisonous shit of elite instititions who detest their own people let alone – the ugly ‘other’
as the poor brazilian murdered in the london metro – his death simply does not concern them at all, no, not at all
& the slugs who write in the european press crippled & bludgeoned by their fear of anti-semitism writing what are in essence broadsheets from tshal – the israeli defence forces
the world is silent, they are silently letting these fools lead us into bloody war & even bloodier acts of forgetting
these spokespeople of horror are as guilty as the practitioners at the pentagon or number 10
the only journalists who have takenb on the mantle of the john pilgers & robert fisks are the bloggers – from all the occupied territories

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 17 2006 22:07 utc | 30

Moral cretin and all around despicable douchebag John Bolton says when Israel murders civilians it’s not the same as when Hamas or Hezbollah murders civilians.

Posted by: ran | Jul 17 2006 23:08 utc | 31

advise anyone who can see bbc’s ‘hardtalk’ interview with saeb erekat to do so – th interviewer expresses cretinism par excellence – his open & vicious stupidity are contextualised well by the humanity & anger & deep sorrow of mr erekat
it reminds me of an interview on the same programme between another simian bag of shit with edward said
how i detest these brutes & the poverty of their thought & speech

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 17 2006 23:55 utc | 32

r’giap,
I hear you. Repeat after me: tv info-tainer, newspaper stenographer, radio personality. Expecting them to behave like ‘journalists’ will only make your head hurt, and there is no point in letting them ruin your day.

Posted by: gylangirl | Jul 18 2006 0:07 utc | 33

meanwhile in afghanistan the taliban have been carrying out two major offensives & the so called coalition are increasingly under siege & a pure afghani force does not exist
the slaughterhouse of iraq has continued apace in the last six days with unparalleled levels of violence
these stupid & dumb motherfuckers who lead the western world are opening up the gates of hell as if they are entering our living rooms
yes, i should, gylangirl but the only other source al jazeera is without sound for the last few days -if it is a technical error it is happening at the oddest time

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 18 2006 0:24 utc | 34

I confess I receive aljazeera newscasts third-hand. Is AJ’s webcasting available during this war?

Posted by: gylangirl | Jul 18 2006 0:42 utc | 35

the firsst three days

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 18 2006 0:53 utc | 36

al jazeera has been available in france for some time – it is in arabic – but for the last few days it has been without sound

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 18 2006 0:55 utc | 37

Thanks, gmac. I had never seen the whole study, but excerpts were printed in the newspaper, with a bit of updating. Obviously, my memory for numbers is lousy, but it is still a huge number who are leaving. And it is more WHO are leaving than how MANY are leaving. A country being drained of its middle and upper classes, its professionals and educators, is in for a rude shock one day.

Posted by: Ensley | Jul 18 2006 1:35 utc | 38

Ensley #38 – the Israelis are not going to have nearly the shock as will the Saudis. Imagine a nuclear armed Jewish Arab nation ruled by theocrats and soldiers and realizing that nothing stands between them and the reconstruction of Solomon’s Empire plus oil except the tender sensibilities of Europe. Hah. They’ll realize too late that their nightmare of a secular Palestinian republic was nothing.

Posted by: citizen k | Jul 18 2006 1:57 utc | 39

In case barflies aren’t routinely checking in @Clemons place now, do stop by. He has some good news up. George Will unleashes appropriate, but almost never read, FURY @NeoNuts in art. in tomorrow’s WarPost. Hopefully we’ll have a thread to discuss it & its fallout tomorrow; but here’s a paragraph for appetizers:
The administration, justly criticized for its Iraq premises and their execution, is suddenly receiving some criticism so untethered from reality as to defy caricature. The national, ethnic and religious dynamics of the Middle East are opaque to most people, but to The Weekly Standard — voice of a spectacularly misnamed radicalism, “neoconservativism” — everything is crystal clear: Iran is the key to everything.
“No Islamic Republic of Iran, no Hezbollah. No Islamic Republic of Iran, no one to prop up the Assad regime in Syria. No Iranian support for Syria. . .” You get the drift.

Steve will post a link to the full piece when WarPost has it up…Stay Tuned…

Posted by: jj | Jul 18 2006 2:38 utc | 40

“Operation Just Reward”
Think about the self-contradiction of morality those words speak by themselves in describing the Israeli operation.
Then there is this to think about as the cable tv shows spew the Iran connection to Hezbolah and Hamas day after day….
Read this.
Could this story be about Iran’s interference in Iraq as the propaganda site says, or is it just pure propaganda to further turn readers against Iran? Who is really going to get the “Just Reward”? Remember what Bush said to Putin after the jab about Iraq: “just wait”. Wait for what?
just some random thoughts…

Posted by: Rick Happ | Jul 18 2006 4:00 utc | 41

No need to understand the words, just look at the pictures and the video:
Bild: Bush: Liebes-Attacke auf Merkel!

Posted by: Fran | Jul 18 2006 5:36 utc | 42

Two stories from England one from last week and one from this week and one wonders if by chance they could be related.
Last week’s story:
Focus: Blair isolated as police close in
and This week’s story:
No criminal charges in De Menezes shooting
Put the Bliar to the white hot poker by waving it in his face right up until the moment he ensures his old Oxford uni chum but no relation, London Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Ian Blair is home free.
I can’t suggest too strongly that MoA-ites clink the link and read the Sunday Times article on the Michael Levy arrest if only because it is Murdoch-ism at it’s epitome of reality bending. While really sticking to the Bliar is a crook meme it goes out of it’s way to humanise Levy and make him an innocent victim of Bliar greed.
Points to note about the Lord Levy issue are
1/ The decision to formally arrest Levy for questioning was made by Ian Bliar offsider, deputy assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan police, John Yates.
2/ Levy, former rock n roll promoter and very close chum, as all good bagmen are, of the Bliar was also instrumental in the whole “crank up the Global War On Terra”, all Muslims are terrorists shebang as he a supporter of Labour Friends of Israel and has been described by The Jerusalem Post as “undoubtedly the notional leader of British Jewry”. Levy has close ties with the Israeli Labour Party and maintains a home in Tel Aviv. His son, Daniel Levy has served as an assistant to the former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and to Knesset member Yossi Beilin. There is heaps more about Levy here if anyone wants to check it out.
Without going into some bullshit a la LaRouche, it is relevant that Bliar greed and materialism was played upon by the Israeli interests as well as amerikan ones. For a smugly pious Presbyterian such as Ian Blair using the Bliar’s corruption by zionists as a restraint on Bliar’s alacrity to push total responsibility for Jean Charles de Menezes’ murder onto the police hierarchy would have had synergy.
There has been considerable resistance from the english ‘establishment’ to cranking up the global war on terra from day one. They just couldn’t see the earning potential and certainly weren’t interested in advancing the zionist or even worse amerikan cause unless england held the reins. That was certainly not the case with the poodle Bliar as the G8 accident on purpose by the rovians reveals.
In fact the meme of the establishment about how it is that the Bliar became so entangled in by BushCo and AIPAC is put down to a dinner party hosted by Gideon Meir (Golda’s son/grandson?) in 1994 when the Bliar was getting all his ducks a row prior to getting the Labour leadership.
Also present was the soon to be Bliar trust lawyer Eldred Tabachnik. In the run up to the Iraq invasion whenever the Bliar seemed recalcitrant or about to make ‘the roadmap’ too hard, another piece of scandal about Bliar and wife Cherie’s property holdings which were in the millions and accumulated quite fast.
3/ Right through last weekend bits of the Michael Levy and the cash for royal honours and titles investigation tie in to the Bliar were being leaked:
Loan trail to No 10 revealed

Police probing the cash-for-peerages scandal have uncovered a paper trail that goes to the ‘heart of Downing Street’, according to a source close to the investigation.
Although the source would not be drawn on what was discovered, he said the evidence makes it more likely criminal charges will be brought against senior Labour figures. The police are said to have been ‘greatly surprised’ at what they have found, the source said.

There is a while to go yet as a couple more enquiries have to finish and the english police are likely to be fined for occupational health and safety breaches that occured during the incident. I’m not kidding. There is a point very early on in the surveillance and tailing of Mr de Menezes when the army ‘spotter’ had to go some distance to empty his bladder. He was the only one who could have positively identified Mr de Menezes so the police are going to be in trouble for not providing a portable toilet when surveilling terrarists.
The corruption thing will hang over the Bliar, right up until every enquiry has patted Mr de Menezes murderers on the back, then something previously unknown will surface. All Bliarites will then be cleared.
The Bliar will then be able to retire before being sacked, and the brits will finally be rid of their pariah.
That’s a best case scenario bwaahahaha poor old tony.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 18 2006 5:43 utc | 43

If Israel has the right to use force in self defence, so do its neighbours

Israel is staking a claim to the exclusive use of force as an instrument of policy and punishment, and is seeking to deny any opposing state or non-state actor a similar right. It is also largely succeeding in portraying its own “right to self-defence” as beyond question, while denying anyone else the same. And the international community is effectively endorsing Israel’s stance on both counts.
From an Arab point of view this cannot be right. There is no reason in the world why Israel should be able to enter Arab sovereign soil to occupy, destroy, kidnap and eliminate its perceived foes – repeatedly, with impunity and without restraint – while the Arab side cannot do the same. And if the Arab states are unable or unwilling to do so then the job should fall to those who can.

Contrary to what Blair seems to believe, the use of force is unlikely to breed western style-liberalism and moderation. What is at issue here is not democracy but the right to resist Israeli arrogance and be treated on a par with it in every respect, including the use of force. If Israel has the right to “defend itself” then so has everyone else.
Furthermore, there is nothing in the history of the region to suggest that Israel’s destruction of mass popular movements such as Hamas or Hizbullah (even if this were possible) would drive their successors closer to western-style democracy, and every reason to believe the opposite. Israel’s invasion of Lebanon in 1982 did away with the PLO and produced Hizbullah instead, the incarceration and elimination of Arafat only served to strengthen Hamas, and the wars in Afghanistan, the Gulf and Iraq gave birth to Bin Ladenist terrorism and extended its reach and appeal. And we should not be surprised if the summer of 2006 produces more of the same.
However Israel’s latest adventure ends, it will not produce greater sympathy and understanding between west and east, or a downturn in extremism. Indeed the most likely outcome is that a new wave of virulent and possibly unconventional anti-western terrorism may well crash against this and other shores. We will all – Israelis, Arabs and westerners – suffer as a result.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2006 9:50 utc | 44

J’ lem police detain Al Jazeera staff for third time in 24 hours

Police detained Al Jazeera crew members three times in 24 hours, the last time being on Monday. The official cause for their brief arrests was suspicions that the crew reported the location of rocket strikes in order to assist Hezbollah. Other TV networks, including Israeli news services, filed similar reports without suffering from police intervention.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2006 10:12 utc | 45

Blogger Atrios, i.e. Duncan Black, of Eschaton has a good OpEd in the LA Times: Why the Left Is Furious at Lieberman

The war is certainly a reason — and given how events continue to devolve in Iraq, a perfectly sufficient one — but those who focus only on that miss the broader opposition to Lieberman and the kind of politics he represents.
For too long he has defined his image by distancing himself from other Democrats, cozying up to right-wing media figures and, at key moments, directing his criticisms at members of his own party instead of at the Republicans in power.
Late last year, after President Bush’s job approval ratings hit record lows, Lieberman decided to lash out at the administration’s critics, writing in the ultraconservative Wall Street Journal editorial pages that “we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.” In this he echoed the most toxic of Republican talking points — that criticizing the conduct of the war is actually damaging to national security.
Lieberman has a long history of providing cover for the worst of Republican actions while enthusiastically serving as his own party’s scold. After the Senate acquitted President Clinton on all impeachment charges, Lieberman called for his censure. More recently, he rejected a call by Sen. Russell D. Feingold (D-Wis.) to censure Bush over the National Security Agency’s warrantless wiretapping program, calling the attempt “divisive.”
Lieberman looks happiest when playing a “Fox News Democrat,” as he did in a February appearance on Sean Hannity’s radio program, during which the two exchanged compliments and expressions of friendship and Hannity offered to campaign for him. The senator seems to enjoy Sunday talk shows more than actually doing his job. New Orleans could have been spared the hacktastic performance of Michael Brown, the unqualified former director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, had Lieberman not shooed him through the confirmation process in a breezy 42-minute hearing.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2006 10:44 utc | 46

The “No Confidence” Movement Builds Steam
Of course the Democrats would never get behind such a movement….

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 18 2006 11:58 utc | 47

Oh, and that other war?
Taleban ‘take south Afghan town’

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 18 2006 12:36 utc | 48

A bit under the radar but getting pretty hot: Turkey Wants Kurdish Guerrilla Crackdown

Turkey called Monday for Iraq and the United States to crack down on Kurdish guerrillas based in northern Iraq, and issued a veiled threat to attack the rebel bases if there is no progress.

The guerrillas, who want autonomy for Turkey’s Kurdish-dominated southeast, have killed 15 Turkish security personnel since Thursday in ambushes, roadside bombings and shootings.
“What we expect (from Iraq) is for the removal of a threat toward a neighboring country and for our ally, the United States, to support Iraq in this,” Justice Minister Cemil Cicek said.

The guerillas killed seven Turkish soldiers and a village guard Saturday in an attack Turkey said was launched from northern Iraq.
Two Turkish soldiers were wounded Monday near the southeastern town of Tunceli, the private Dogan news agency reported. U.S.-made Cobra helicopters pounded suspected rebel hideouts, while Turkish commandos were airlifted to strategic points along the Iraqi border.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2006 13:17 utc | 49

FACTBOX-Developments in Iraq on July 18

The following are security developments in Iraq on Tuesday as of 0900 GMT.
KUFA – A car bomb hit a group of labourers after they boarded a minibus in a market in Kufa, a Shi’ite religious centre near the holy city of Najaf, 160 km (100 miles) south of Baghdad, killing 59 people and wounding 132.
BAGHDAD – A U.S. soldier died on Monday after a bomb explosion south of Baghdad, the U.S. military said.
NEAR TIKRIT – Iraqi police found the head of a young woman near Tikrit, 175 km (110 miles) north of Baghdad, police said. A man was killed when a bomb planted under the head exploded as he was trying to take a photo of it, police said.
KIRKUK – Gunmen killed sheikh Khalid Ahmed Hasan, a tribal leader, near Kirkuk, 250 km (155 miles) north of Baghdad.
NEAR KIRKUK – Iraqi army and police arrested Saloum al-Rayashi, a leader of an armed group, near Kirkuk, the Iraqi army said.
KUT – Five Iraqi soldiers were wounded when several rockets landed near a military base used for training Iraqi forces in Kut, Iraqi army said.
BASRA – British forces in the southern Iraqi city of Basra said they conducted a large operation to search for weapons early on Tuesday, and Iraqi police said five Shi’ite militia fighters had been killed and ten wounded in clashes.
HAWIJA – Five policeman were killed when a roadside bomb went off near their patrol in Hawija, 70 km (40 miles) southwest of Kirkuk, police said.
HADITHA – Gunmen killed three translators who worked for the U.S. forces in Haditha, 240 km (150 miles) northwest Baghdad, police said.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2006 13:22 utc | 50

For anyone interested in philosophy and Straussian influence on today’s US police a must read is this post at Prof. Balkin’s blog by Scott Horton:

Strauss looks at the fate he faces in consequence of the Nazi seizure of power in Germany. He admits that it is impossible for him as a Jew to live under their regime, since they have adopted anti-Semitism as a keynote of their rule. But while expressing abhorrence at their anti-Semitism, Strauss consciously refuses fully to repudiate Nazi fascism. To the contrary, he accepts fascism as a legitimate bearer of “the principles of the right,” and he embraces them, namely: fascism, authoritarianism and imperialism. He then proceeds to ridicule the Enlightenment values of inalienable rights, quoting the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen from 1789 (though he could just as easily have quoted the American Declaration of Independence), and he quotes a passage of Virgil’s Aeneid, a passage which Carl Schmitt was also fond of quoting.

Posted by: b | Jul 18 2006 18:05 utc | 51

Indian censorship of blogs in play. Track it here.
NYT sez:

NEW DELHI, July 18 — As India’s financial capital, Mumbai, observed a moment of silence today to commemorate the serial bombings of its commuter trains seven days ago, a blistering silence blanketed the Indian blogosphere.
For reasons yet unexplained by the authorities, the Indian government has apparently directed local Internet service providers to block access to a handful of outlets that host blogs, including the popular blogspot.com. Indian bloggers have reacted with anger and confusion, accusing the government of censorship and demanding to know why their sites have been jammed.

Posted by: citizen | Jul 18 2006 21:57 utc | 52

israeli tanks entering refugee camps in gaza tonight & the world says nothing – ufp
tshal is the new werhmacht
shame shame shame

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 18 2006 23:53 utc | 53

cnn 3 hr later reports on the grand incursion into gaza
but done between their usual punch & judy act – hezbollah/hamas/syria/iran hezbollah/hamas/syria/iran
an arab life has no meaning at all for them – their oil more precious than their blood – their resources more real than their faith
fuck them
fuck them all

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 19 2006 0:13 utc | 54

““We are sure that Israel is using a new chemical or radioactive weapon in their operation…When we try to X-ray dead bodies, we find no trace of shrapnel that hit the person killed.” Dr. al-Saqqa, Shifa hospital, Gaza; following the examination of the “completely burnt” bodies of dead Palestinians killed in Israeli air raid.

fuck them all.

Posted by: beq | Jul 19 2006 0:28 utc | 55

john bolton – bush’s von ribbentrop – is the last man in the world who could talk about moral equivalence with any legitimacy, whatsoever
the nazis – moral equivalence was one soldier = 10 executions tho it varied at the time of the war & the region. in the east it was closer to 1,000 execution for each soldier
the israeli government – child to this calculus – exhibits over & over again & in a way similar to apartheid south africa – that their enemy is everybody who does not support them
the profanity lies in the fact that they use the menace of antisemitism to bludgeon any critics of their criminal policies
however, at the moment counterpunch has many substantial texts from those on the israeli left

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 19 2006 1:21 utc | 56

@ r’giap I have to admit that since about a day into the attack on Gaza I haven’t really been able to watch much TV. The English language Chinese news channel I had come to rely on, CCTV is only carrying endless incredibly interesting but somewhat irrelevant doco’s on chinese medical research.
I watched some USuk TV news last night and wrote this this crude effort of what watching it felt like this morning:
Baby-boomers may remember old black and white scenes, stills or movie, of interminable lines of people horses and handcarts being pushed along dusty roads in the middle of summer. Occasionally a me-109 or even a Stuka may appear strafing, dive-bombing harassing and terrifying the myriads of humans being who had gathered together their family unit, most cherished portable possessions and headed off into the line of others doing the same. They were trying to escape the horror their homes had become. The retreat where one goes after a days work/school/ hunting/shopping and finally relaxes with their nearest and dearest had become a death trap. At any time a bomb could descend from the sky or a jackboot appear through the door and change or end life irrevocably.
This is what is happening in Lebanon right now. Most are fleeing toward Syria in the knowledge that by the time they get there the Israeli killers could be attacking that formerly secure environ as well. So it was for the Europeans for several summers in the 1940’s. They would move further East toward the Soviet Union or West toward the Atlantic and the capitulation of the Anglo-French forces whose protection they had sought but it was to no avail. They were ultimately in just as much danger as that which they had sought to escape from but far from their home or familiar surrounds.
I was reminded of those scenes last night when watching a TV reporter/voyeur arrogantly weaving in and out of the lines of cars full of people attempting to escape North out of Beruit. This intrepid USuk reporter was asking cars jammed with families of terrified/resolute/apprehensive/determined people if they still thought Hezbollah should be firing missiles into Israel! The reporter was alternating between xtian and Islamic families asking this question and appeared genuinely surprised when the xtians were far more vehement in their condemnation of Israel and USuk for inflicting this horror upon them. Is this the level of buffoon that European in the street depends upon to get an insight into the carnage?
It occurred to me then how the history books we studied World War 2 out of would have documented the figure of an Italian reporter asking Poles if they still thought that their army’s attack on a German border post was such a good thing?
I have been watching very little of the coverage from Lebanon. Enough to get a bit of a visual image of what’s happening but the reportage has been so subjective, no subjective is too kind. . .so untrue that it leaves one feeling too angry to be able to cogitate on possible action.
AFAIK the real purpose of this footage is to inure western viewers to these sights which they are going to see plenty of this summer, and probably a few summers to come.
Imagine for a moment it were you and your family that had to pack up and git going. How many of us have the where withall to do any such thing? Remember it isn’t going to ‘just for a few days’ like some sort of camping trip. Systems are breaking down so even if you do have adequate resources in the bank or whatever getting at them is going to need a lot of luck and skill.
Even so that would only last a while, most people pretty much live from paycheck to paycheck anyhow. Sure people save and invest but how much of that is immediately accessible. The first thing that happens when a nation hits the road is that those with a surplus immediately charge more and only accept cash or barter. Credit cards cashier cheques etc are useless.
All things we use as levers to exert a measure of control on our situation have been rendered totally ineffective.
Lebanese people have been settling in NZ pretty much since northerners have been coming and the same is undoubtedly true of amerika, Brazil, Australia or any of the other Northerner colonisations of the last few hundred years. The emigrations seem to have occurred in waves, so it’s likely that Lebanese people have been the ‘meat in someone else’s’ sandwich since the 11th century xtians first decided Jerusalem was theirs.
Still it goes on

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 19 2006 2:36 utc | 57

debs
yes, it goes on endlessly & sadder by the minute

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 19 2006 2:52 utc | 58

How creepy is this?
Endgame?
End game the office Detention and Removal Strategy 2003-2012 for Homeland Security with pdf at the link.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 19 2006 3:00 utc | 59

per usual, measured commentary by meteor blades:

The discussion I’d like to have, if only for a moment, is not about which map was the real one at Camp David in 2000, nor how many Jews vs. Arabs lived in the western portion of the British Mandate in 1943, nor whether the Wall is creating the biggest ghetto in history. The conversation I want to have is not about Qibya or Auschwitz or whether there is a moral equivalence between an armed NGO firing poorly guided rockets into residential areas and a U.N.-recognized state firing well-guided missiles into residential areas. I’m not interested in a politico-psychological analysis of my biases based on a count of how often I write Palestine/Israel instead of Israel/Palestine.
For now, for just one thread, all I want to know is how you came to know what you think you know about Palestine/Israel, and the Middle East in general. (snip)
So, after all this, what do I think I know? I’m know I’m not an Israeli and I’m not a Palestinian. Not Jewish, Christian or Muslim. Despite reading maybe 100 books and some journals on the Middle East, and having talked face-to-face with some heavy hitters, I’m far from an expert. What I think I know, however, is that nobody has a lock on truth or justice. Moral high ground in this dispute rests on the slipperiest of slippery slopes.
How do I know? Because everyone I’ve met or talked with, everybody whose book I’ve read, leaves stuff out. And those who put that left-out stuff in leave other stuff out.
There’s one other thing I think I know about this conflict.
If we’re really going to get anywhere, we have to disremember Kristallnacht and Qibya. We have to stop fighting over how many Jews vs. how many Arabs lived in the region in 1880 or 1944. We have to get over “who started it.” I’m not saying we should erase history from memory altogether. What I’m saying, what I think I know, is that we can’t throw up our hands, say “a pox on both your houses,” and descend into apathy. Our only choice is looking futureward to what a peaceful, secure, prosperous Palestine and Israel would look like in 50 years, and doing what little part we can to make that happen. We can’t say that’s their problem, not ours.
How do I know this is the only choice? Because we already have clearly seen what 50 years of war looks like. And while I am no believer in biblical prophesy, I do believe in the possibility of Armageddon.

i have given you the beginning and the end and highly recommend following the link to the middle.

Posted by: conchita | Jul 19 2006 4:05 utc | 60

r’gaip #56: “..the israeli government …. their enemy is everybody who does not support them”
Yeah, just like Bush “…your either with us or against us.”

Posted by: Rick Happ | Jul 19 2006 4:06 utc | 61

just have to add a personal story. was talking with an israeli friend (perhaps i should say former after our “discussion”) on sunday who excused when the idf’s killing of lebanese civilians – “well afterwards they say they’re sorry.” and her response to being told about the air attack on the convoy of cars fleeing southern lebanon – “was there a terrorist in the car?” from a generally kind-hearted, open-minded woman – left me saddened and shocked that she could not condemn the israeli government for an obvious wrong and showed me how knee jerk some reactions are.

Posted by: conchita | Jul 19 2006 4:16 utc | 62

Come on Conchita.
Chill.
Some people at some times just need to kill people. And decrease the surplus population.
BTW. Heinrich Himmler and Reinhardt Heydrich did not convince me to post this.

Posted by: Thomas Malthus | Jul 19 2006 4:48 utc | 63