Other news & views ..-
|
|
|
|
Back to Main
|
||
|
July 17, 2006
OT 06-63
Other news & views ..-
Comments
Steve Clemon reckons it’s A BAD IDEA sending a huge target to rescue US citizens from being killed by their greatest ally.
Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 17 2006 17:22 utc | 1 Pro-Israel PAC Contributions to 2006 Congressional Candidates Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 17:45 utc | 2 Mr President your mike is still on! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 17:55 utc | 3 more details in the NYT version Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 18:16 utc | 5 In news that means something… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 18:20 utc | 6 I often see on various posts, not only on MoA, but other places also, that the U.S. gives about equal aid to Egypt and Israel. Posted by: Rick Happ | Jul 17 2006 18:39 utc | 7 Transcript: Full Text of Bush’s Private Exchange at G-8 Summit
Beijing in the “neighbourhood” of Petersberg. What a jerk. Regarding post 3, ABC News headline: Posted by: Rick Happ | Jul 17 2006 18:49 utc | 9 @Rick Happ Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 18:51 utc | 10 Rick, I wanted to comment on someone saying that Egypt receives as much US aid as Israel. Posted by: Noirette | Jul 17 2006 18:51 utc | 11 the peacock rpt: As Hezbollah Rains Rockets on Israel, DoD Steps Up Plans to Upgrade Israeli Air Force Bases
also from TPR: Contractor Gets Millions for Radio, TV, Leaflet PSYOPS Technology Project
on a related not, perhaps…?
and as’ad abukhalil’s angry arab news service has been speaking truth w/ precision lately, taking on the media, the nation, robert fisk, and even (gulp) amy goodman (on this morning’s democracynow) Posted by: b real | Jul 17 2006 18:54 utc | 13 A Conservative Total for U.S. Aid to Israel: $91 Billion—and Counting I got more, but it will have to wait… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 18:55 utc | 14
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 17 2006 18:59 utc | 15 @Rick – here is one partisan calculation (from scanning it it looks ok) of US aid to Israel. A more neutral source. A CSM report. just witnessed einstein being interviewed by an ape on bbc Posted by: r’giap | Jul 17 2006 19:06 utc | 17 Some of the things I have read – all net, mixed bag, different kinds of sources: Posted by: Noirette | Jul 17 2006 19:17 utc | 19 Norette and Uncle $cam: Posted by: RIck Happ | Jul 17 2006 19:17 utc | 20 Uncle $cam, is the comparison based on per-capita, or is it just a flat amount? Egypt’s population is over 70,000,000 and Israel’s only 6,000,000 (are they including Gaza and the West Bank is that six million, Palestinians et al, as well?) Posted by: Ensley | Jul 17 2006 19:18 utc | 21 It is always tabulated as a flat amount by the US Gov/Press. Posted by: Noirette | Jul 17 2006 19:26 utc | 23 Ensley, Posted by: Rick Happ | Jul 17 2006 19:33 utc | 24 To continue a little on the topic of aid in a personal way: Posted by: Noirette | Jul 17 2006 19:43 utc | 25 I dunno which Israelis you run into, but I have encountered exactly the same attitude among government workers of other US client states and certainly do not see that attitude in Israelis working for private companies. If you ever had the misfortune to meet people from the pre-Chavez Venezuela state oild company, you would know what I mean. Posted by: citizen k | Jul 17 2006 19:55 utc | 26 I went looking for the article I read about a year ago in a few major newspapers and couldn’t find it. It was about Israel being very upset because Israelis were leaving the country in record numbers to go live in Europe, America, etc. It was almost entirely members of the middle and upper classes rather than poor recent immigrants to the country. As I’ve said ad nauseum, my memory is not as good as it was even a few years ago, but I seem to remember a figure greater than 100,000 per year abandoning ship because of all the violence in both directions and the poor economy. Posted by: Ensley | Jul 17 2006 20:04 utc | 27 Gen. William Odom A reverse domino theory may be playing out in the Middle East
Ensley, this might help Posted by: gmac | Jul 17 2006 21:50 utc | 29 seeing, over & over, that piece of shit, that passes himself off as president of the us & his most servile lackey, blair – has kept me in high dudgeon all day Posted by: r’giap | Jul 17 2006 22:07 utc | 30 Moral cretin and all around despicable douchebag John Bolton says when Israel murders civilians it’s not the same as when Hamas or Hezbollah murders civilians. Posted by: ran | Jul 17 2006 23:08 utc | 31 advise anyone who can see bbc’s ‘hardtalk’ interview with saeb erekat to do so – th interviewer expresses cretinism par excellence – his open & vicious stupidity are contextualised well by the humanity & anger & deep sorrow of mr erekat Posted by: r’giap | Jul 17 2006 23:55 utc | 32 r’giap, Posted by: gylangirl | Jul 18 2006 0:07 utc | 33 meanwhile in afghanistan the taliban have been carrying out two major offensives & the so called coalition are increasingly under siege & a pure afghani force does not exist Posted by: r’giap | Jul 18 2006 0:24 utc | 34 I confess I receive aljazeera newscasts third-hand. Is AJ’s webcasting available during this war? Posted by: gylangirl | Jul 18 2006 0:42 utc | 35 al jazeera has been available in france for some time – it is in arabic – but for the last few days it has been without sound Posted by: r’giap | Jul 18 2006 0:55 utc | 37 Thanks, gmac. I had never seen the whole study, but excerpts were printed in the newspaper, with a bit of updating. Obviously, my memory for numbers is lousy, but it is still a huge number who are leaving. And it is more WHO are leaving than how MANY are leaving. A country being drained of its middle and upper classes, its professionals and educators, is in for a rude shock one day. Posted by: Ensley | Jul 18 2006 1:35 utc | 38 Ensley #38 – the Israelis are not going to have nearly the shock as will the Saudis. Imagine a nuclear armed Jewish Arab nation ruled by theocrats and soldiers and realizing that nothing stands between them and the reconstruction of Solomon’s Empire plus oil except the tender sensibilities of Europe. Hah. They’ll realize too late that their nightmare of a secular Palestinian republic was nothing. Posted by: citizen k | Jul 18 2006 1:57 utc | 39 In case barflies aren’t routinely checking in @Clemons place now, do stop by. He has some good news up. George Will unleashes appropriate, but almost never read, FURY @NeoNuts in art. in tomorrow’s WarPost. Hopefully we’ll have a thread to discuss it & its fallout tomorrow; but here’s a paragraph for appetizers: Posted by: jj | Jul 18 2006 2:38 utc | 40 “Operation Just Reward” No need to understand the words, just look at the pictures and the video: Posted by: Fran | Jul 18 2006 5:36 utc | 42 Two stories from England one from last week and one from this week and one wonders if by chance they could be related.
There is a while to go yet as a couple more enquiries have to finish and the english police are likely to be fined for occupational health and safety breaches that occured during the incident. I’m not kidding. There is a point very early on in the surveillance and tailing of Mr de Menezes when the army ‘spotter’ had to go some distance to empty his bladder. He was the only one who could have positively identified Mr de Menezes so the police are going to be in trouble for not providing a portable toilet when surveilling terrarists. Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 18 2006 5:43 utc | 43 If Israel has the right to use force in self defence, so do its neighbours
J’ lem police detain Al Jazeera staff for third time in 24 hours
Blogger Atrios, i.e. Duncan Black, of Eschaton has a good OpEd in the LA Times: Why the Left Is Furious at Lieberman
The “No Confidence” Movement Builds Steam Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 18 2006 11:58 utc | 47 Oh, and that other war? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 18 2006 12:36 utc | 48 A bit under the radar but getting pretty hot: Turkey Wants Kurdish Guerrilla Crackdown
FACTBOX-Developments in Iraq on July 18
For anyone interested in philosophy and Straussian influence on today’s US police a must read is this post at Prof. Balkin’s blog by Scott Horton:
Indian censorship of blogs in play. Track it here.
Posted by: citizen | Jul 18 2006 21:57 utc | 52 israeli tanks entering refugee camps in gaza tonight & the world says nothing – ufp Posted by: r’giap | Jul 18 2006 23:53 utc | 53 cnn 3 hr later reports on the grand incursion into gaza Posted by: r’giap | Jul 19 2006 0:13 utc | 54
fuck them all. Posted by: beq | Jul 19 2006 0:28 utc | 55 john bolton – bush’s von ribbentrop – is the last man in the world who could talk about moral equivalence with any legitimacy, whatsoever Posted by: r’giap | Jul 19 2006 1:21 utc | 56 @ r’giap I have to admit that since about a day into the attack on Gaza I haven’t really been able to watch much TV. The English language Chinese news channel I had come to rely on, CCTV is only carrying endless incredibly interesting but somewhat irrelevant doco’s on chinese medical research. Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 19 2006 2:36 utc | 57 How creepy is this? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 19 2006 3:00 utc | 59 per usual, measured commentary by meteor blades:
i have given you the beginning and the end and highly recommend following the link to the middle. Posted by: conchita | Jul 19 2006 4:05 utc | 60 r’gaip #56: “..the israeli government …. their enemy is everybody who does not support them” just have to add a personal story. was talking with an israeli friend (perhaps i should say former after our “discussion”) on sunday who excused when the idf’s killing of lebanese civilians – “well afterwards they say they’re sorry.” and her response to being told about the air attack on the convoy of cars fleeing southern lebanon – “was there a terrorist in the car?” from a generally kind-hearted, open-minded woman – left me saddened and shocked that she could not condemn the israeli government for an obvious wrong and showed me how knee jerk some reactions are. Posted by: conchita | Jul 19 2006 4:16 utc | 62 Come on Conchita. Posted by: Thomas Malthus | Jul 19 2006 4:48 utc | 63 |
||