Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 3, 2006
Anthems

by jonku

A day or so ago Canada celebrated the beginning of our 140th year as a
confederation, and commemorated our history of 139 years.

After singing
the national anthem, Oh Canada, I
reflected on its meaning. It is a song to the country, beginning "Oh Canada, our
home and native land."

The refrain, "Oh Canada, we stand on guard for
thee" feels appropriate and is a promise to the nation. "True patriot love, in
all thy sons command" asks the country to inspire its male citizens to
patriotism. Here I wonder if the 1908 poet, Robert Stanley Weir, values men over
women, or if it simply foreshadows the First World War when so many young
Canadians died in Europe.

Sung in the vernacular, people change the line
"Oh Canada, we stand on guard for thee," to "Stand on guard, Oh Canada, we stand
on guard for thee," which adds a warning ("Stand on guard") to the promise to
defend. It’s also a nice alliteration of the phrase. They also sing "true
patriot love, at our sons command," instead of "… in all thy sons
command."

If you care to hear it, I found a link to a YouTube video clip
of Oh Canada.

I
sincerely wonder what the rest of the Moon off Alabama thinks about their own,
and the whole notion of national anthems.

Lyrics below:

 
  O Canada!
    Our home and native land!
    True patriot love in all thy
sons command.

    With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
    The True
North strong and free!

    From far and wide,
    O Canada, we stand
on guard for thee.

    God keep our land glorious and free!
    O
Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

    O Canada, we stand on guard for
thee.

Comments

Well, considering that the national anthem of the US of A is set to the tune of an English drinking song with lyrics that are much superior to Francis Scott Keye’s awkward phrases (check out verse 3):
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash’d out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
I prefer Katharine Lee Bates America the Beautful. Or maybe Neil Young’s Keep on rockin’ in the free world, which is a bit more honest.
Tomorrow is Independence Day–lots of mindless patriotism, drinking, and fireworks. When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another–I think it’s that time again. War crimes–>impeachment.

Posted by: catlady | Jul 3 2006 19:04 utc | 1

Dobbs- North American Union

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 3 2006 19:35 utc | 2

Three thoughts:
1. “we stand on guard for thee” is fine, but why in Afghanistan?
2. The German anthem (that English translation at the link is not really good) is kind of ugly in its history.
The melody is by Haydn but was originaly used for a hymn to the Austrian imperial emporer. The text is from a 1841 patriotic slime poem.
As the first stanza of original text has a reference to wider German boarders that have by history been tightened, and the second stanza is a bit too sexist plus talks of wining, now the third stanza is the official hymn.
It start “Unity and justice and freedom – For the German Fatherland” which makes you wonder about the priorities in the ranking of unity, justice and freedom and the restriction to whom that should apply.
I would prefer to use Beethoven Symphony No. 9 with some updated secular text. Its more “German”, even though it was comissioned by the Brits.
3. In general – why do we need national hymns? There is a nice french hymn that has been translated to over 30 languages and could fit us all.

Arise, the damned of the earth,
Arise, prisoners of hunger,
For reason thunders in its crater,
It is the eruption of the end!
Let us make a blank slate of the past,
Army of slaves, arise, arise!
The world is changing at the base,
We who have been nothing, let’s be everything!

There was some reason that Stalin did discard it as the Russian anthem. That in itself is a good reason to pick it up again.
I love this russian (mp3) version for its emotions.
Here is an English version with some of the 1933 pathos and a more modern interpretation.
Talking about united: Farsi and Hebrew.

Posted by: b | Jul 3 2006 19:44 utc | 3

As far as anthems go, nobody can beat the Monty Python sketch in which the professors of the philosophy department of the University of Wulabaloo sing:
This here is the wattle
the emblem of our land
You can stick it in a bottle
or you can hold it in your hand
Australia! We love you!

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jul 3 2006 20:04 utc | 4

Oil sands,,,,,,,,,,,, Canada 51st state of the Union

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 3 2006 20:34 utc | 5

catlady- This Land is Your Land is a good anthem to me. It’s simple to sing (unlike FSK’s song…which lends itself to histrionics, imo) and is about the idea of democracy.
why choose a song for a democracy that most of the ppl can’t sing without sounding like they’re breaking glass?
but as far as “fancy songs” go, I also prefer America the Beautiful.
and, sorry to bring this up here, Jonku, but since you’re here and so kind — I have another g.d. “issue” with computer crap.
I’m gonna sorta “out” myself here…I sorta have anyway but not…anyway, I have a little baby non-political blog to use as my home and whenever I post a link (it’s at blogspot), the link adds my blogspot in it and refers to my blog and not to the link!
I know very well how to do html links. I’ve looked at the template, settings, blahblahblah to figure out why links come back to me.
does anyone here know what I’m doing wrong?!?!
sorry for the off-topic question, but this is truly annoying.

Posted by: fauxreal | Jul 3 2006 20:57 utc | 6

I’ve never used Blogger, so this is just an educated guess and is, furthermore, probably something you already know, but it’s what causes that specific problem in plain HTML: all link URLS must start with “http://” or “ftp://” (or some other protocol identifier) or else they are considered to be ‘local’ links, relative to the position of the page on the server. If you’re just starting your URLs with ‘www.blah.com’, then web browsers will think you mean there’s a directory named ‘www.blah.com’ on your site that you’re linking into.

Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Jul 3 2006 21:41 utc | 7

tgv..
no, I do a regular html link, but when I publish the blog, it prefaces all my links with http://myblogi.d.com AND THEN the actual link I used.
..so that when you click on the link you go to this non-existent “external” link.
this makes no sense to me, i’ve read their instructions, which are the same as for any other html link thing, as in the

Posted by: fauxreal | Jul 3 2006 21:48 utc | 8

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Posted by: fauxreal | Jul 3 2006 21:49 utc | 9

oh shit. time to go to sleep or something. sorry all.

Posted by: fauxreal | Jul 3 2006 21:50 utc | 10

what do you call your day jonku? independence day or canada day? do you have fireworks?
love the idea of a world anthem b. what is the name of that nice french hymn?
land is your land,is a favorite singin in the car song w/my family.
a reminder of the last couple verses
As I was walkin’ – I saw a sign there
And that sign said – no tress passin’
But on the other side …. it didn’t say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!
In the squares of the city – In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office – I see my people
And some are grumblin’ and some are wonderin’
If this land’s still made for you and me.

Posted by: annie | Jul 3 2006 23:19 utc | 11

oops, that there sentence is missing the this 😉

Posted by: annie | Jul 3 2006 23:21 utc | 12

an anthem for b

Posted by: r’giap | Jul 3 2006 23:41 utc | 13

The Maryland state song is a civil war era rebel’s cry to secede from the Union. Lately as I’ve been wondering when oh when will the North finally secede from the Confederacy, the first verse is sadly current:
[to the tune of O Tanenbaum/O Christmas Tree]
The Despot’s heel is on thy shore, Maryland my Maryland!
His torch is at thy temple door, Maryland my Maryland!
Avenge the patriotic gore that flecked the streets of Baltimore
And be the battle queen of yore, Maryland my Maryland!

Posted by: gylangirl | Jul 4 2006 0:14 utc | 14

Canada 51st State of the Union…
On this Canada Day weekend – that’s what we call it – this 51st state comment requires a response.
First, the implied assumption is that Canadians would want to be Americans and would gratefully join the Union. In fact, English Canada was mostly founded by United Empire Loyalist who wanted no part of the American Revolutionary radicals, and repelled the first American attempt (lead by Benedict Arnold) to seize the prize. The second attempt, during the War of 1812, was also repelled. As will be a third.
Secondly, look at a map. Canada is bigger than the US. Were it to join the US, the 10 Provinces and 3 Territories would each demand independent Statehood. Canadian Confederation in 1867 was very much informed by the then recent American debates over States’ rights and that ensuing Civil War. Consequently, Canadian federalism was negotiated to extend more generous powers to the Provinces; as States they would expect to retain those powers. The richer Provinces would have significant negotiating positions, and the existing wealthy States would be enboldened to also demand a higher seat at the table.
And you’ve never had to deal with Quebec.
Imagin the changes to the American politic. A more left-of-centre voice to be sure – assuming gay marriage as a non-issue, expecting universal health care as a basic right, an un-ease with religion in office, a quiet wonder at the land.
You don’t get us as the 51st State. Kicking and screaming we might add up to be the 63rd states, but you would be profoundly changed in the process.

Posted by: Allen/Vancouver | Jul 4 2006 0:28 utc | 15

@fauxreal
the same has happened to me on several occasions, however the problem always seems to go away without me finding a particular solution; it seems to appear and vanish as if it never happened, which leads me to believe it could be some form of subversion in my more paranoid moments…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 4 2006 2:05 utc | 16

Our national song (nationalsången) actually celebrates the Swedish-Norwegian union and thus ‘Sweden’ is not mentioned anywhere, instead it is ‘the North’ that is celebrated. It is also much connected to the nordic nature. It is also rather nostalgical for the good old days when Sweden was a great power, but though there is a phrase “I know that you are and will be what you was” this is not interpreted as striving for power, it is more about greatness in some metaphysical sense (kind of “though we were beaten, we were the better team”). Ends with “I want to live, I want to die in the North” (possibly anti-emigration…).
The national day (nationaldagen), 6th of June, was instituted in 2005. It is brand new. Before that the 6th of June was the day of the swedish flag. Not so celebrated (a song from the eighties pops up: “It is the day of the swedish flag and the only one singing is me”). Getting a national day has been much debated over the years (“Everyone else has one”, “The Norwegian looks to enjoy theirs” and so on) and as an alternative date midsummer has been suggested (we already celebrate that, so it would solve the problem of inventing new traditions).
As you can understand the national day is still celebrate in quite uncertain manors. Some choir singing, some event with the King and stuff. And of course the nationalists demonstrate (“Out with the foreigners”) so the anti-fascist (much larger) groups also demonstrate (“No fascists on our streets”). It is usually good weather so it is an excellent time for some fighting with each other and the police.
However, most swedes (and indeed this is true among me and my friends) celebrates this holiday much like any swedish holiday. By getting drunk the evening before and using the actual holiday to cure your hang over.

Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Jul 4 2006 2:10 utc | 17

On a similar note, As far as anthems, celebration, patriotism goes…

The Meaning of July Fourth for the Negro

Frederick Douglass, an escaped slave and abolitionist, was asked to give a Fourth of July speech while slavery still existed. His fiery talk is what this section is about: People within America recognizing that the American promises ring hollow.
Snip:

At a time like this, scorching irony, not convincing argument, is needed. O! had I the ability, and could reach the nation’s ear, I would, to-day, pour out a fiery stream of biting ridicule, blasting reproach, withering sarcasm, and stern rebuke. For it is not light that is needed, but fire; it is not the gentle shower, but thunder. We need the storm, the whirlwind, and the earthquake. The feeling of the nation must be quickened; the conscience of the nation must be roused; the propriety of the nation must be startled; the hypocrisy of the nation must be exposed; and its crimes against God and man must be proclaimed and denounced.

Wow. I hesitate to apply to current events words crafted to describe such horrible times, but.. but that passage really struck me.

What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July? I answer; a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciation of tyrants, brass fronted impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are, to Him, mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy-a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of the United States, at this very hour.
Go where you may, search where you will, roam through all the monarchies and despotisms of the Old World, travel through South America, search out every abuse, and when you have found the last, lay your facts by the side of the everyday practices of this nation, and you will say with me, that, for revolting barbarity and shameless hypocrisy, America reigns without a rival.

My agnostic prayer is that enough of us will do our best in following what is true and good, to make sure that this statement does not become an apt description of present-day America. I fear however, it already has.
Finally, Two words: John Rawls.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 4 2006 2:29 utc | 18

4 years ago, during the World Cup, I managed to catch just about all of the anthems. And they all stunk. Except, of course, La Marseilleise.

Posted by: Rowan | Jul 4 2006 2:51 utc | 19

We just celebrated HKSAR Establishment Day in HK. HK now uses the Chinese anthem. I’ve come to know the tune very well, because the anthem is played every evening before the Cantonese news on ATV and TVB.
Since my Mandarin is not that fluent, I just know the words “Qi lai!” “Qi Lai” (arise or get up).
Here are some translations of it:

Arise, ye who refuse to be slaves!
Let us amount our flesh and blood towards our new Great Wall!
The Chinese nation faces its greatest peril,
The thundering roar of our peoples will be heard!
Arise! Arise! Arise!
We are many, but our hearts beat as one!
Selflessly braving the enemy’s gunfire, march on!
Selflessly braving the enemy’s gunfire, march on!
March on! March on! on!”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_of_the_Volunteers

“Arise, ye who refuse to be slaves!
With our flesh and blood, let us build our new Great Wall!
The Chinese nation faces its greatest danger.
From each one the urgent call for action comes forth.
Arise! Arise! Arise!
Millions with but one heart,
Braving the enemy’s fire.
March on!
Braving the enemy’s fire.
March on! March on! March on!”
http://david.national-anthems.net/cn‘.htm
It’s definitely a martial tune.

Posted by: hk-reader | Jul 4 2006 3:49 utc | 20

Beautiful Music does not need a fucking tube; it’s not the Music first . It’s the lyrics:
Well you can’t find lyrics on the net anymore so i’ll write it a bit:
Finland Finland Uber Alles!
You people are amusing, by and large.
No knowledge of Jack, or Shit from Shinola, or history either.
Google Mannerheim, or Finland.
It might help you get your heads out of your asses, or figure out which end is up.
Nice to be leaving.

Posted by: Flash Harry | Jul 4 2006 3:55 utc | 21

Nice song HK reader.
Yeah, they know what it’s about.

Posted by: Flash Harry | Jul 4 2006 4:09 utc | 22

Not much of a fan of any kind of nationalism, really, and I find the idea of a “national identity” to be antithetical to much of what I believe in, so the only anthems I tend to catch myself singing are snippets of commercial advertisements (might be the same thing now I come to reflect on it).
Incidentally, am I misreading you Flash Harry? Your #21 post came across to me, anyway, as something of a drive-by tantrum. Not much of a fan of those, either.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jul 4 2006 4:16 utc | 23

As of 51st state, I always thought the title belonged to Britain.
We used to play this song off from the loudspeaker car during rallies. Really loud when the cops came forward to crash the party.

Posted by: b | Jul 4 2006 4:20 utc | 24

Well, Mono, really meant what I said!
It would be nice if we had a perfect peaceful world where everyone nuzzled their baby rabbit or hamster coming home.
Unfortunately, the world ain’t like that yet.
And I doubt it will be for 500-1000 years, if ever.
So you make incremental changes, as best you can.
And you should not beat yourself up if you fail in an incremental mission.
There’s always tommorrow.
And plenty of incremental missions before the “Long War” ends.
Thing I am speaking theologically in last, obove.

Posted by: Flash Harry | Jul 4 2006 4:49 utc | 25

@Flash Harry
Okay, gotcha. Seemed to come a little out of left field when I read it originally, so I thought I must be missing something.
No problems. I have many of the same kinds of days myself.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jul 4 2006 5:05 utc | 26

@Allen/Vancouver:

Well, far be it from me to argue that Canada should become part of the U.S. (I think it would make more sense for parts of the U.S. to try to join Canada), but I think you’re misinterpreting Cloned Poster, there. CP is suggesting that the U.S. will attempt to annex Canada because of the oil sands, not that Canada would voluntarily join.

Oh, and by the way: arguing from land mass is not a very good idea. The difference is negligible (less than 4% of the area of the U.S.), and if you ignore areas that are under water and thus not inhabitable, the U.S. is actually slightly larger than Canada. Either way, it’s a moot point, since one way or another it would come to population and the U.S. has about nine times the population of Canada.

The only reasons I can think of why Candadians might want to join the U.S.: first, they could insist that voting was done in a secure, verifiable manner before signing on, which would effectively put an end to the Bush regime (and I imagine that the majority of Canadians would like that), and second, since each province or territory of Canada would have to be admitted as a separate state, it would drive Texas crazy by pushing them from the second largest state (they tend to ignore Alaska anyway) out of the top 10. All but 3 of Canada’s provinces and territories are bigger than Texas, so it would suddenly become number 12, and if you’ve ever met any of the more annoying sort of Texan, you know that such a change would annoy them no end. (You can see why they fixate so: other than size, there isn’t much about modern-day Texas about which to be proud.) Although I doubt anyone would believe it worthwhile to join the mess which is the U.S. federal government, at least annoying Texans a whole lot would sweeten the deal. 🙂

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 4 2006 7:03 utc | 27

Ooops. Number 27 was me. (That’s what I get for thinking “I’ll go back and fill in the Name blank when I’m done with Comments.”)

Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Jul 4 2006 7:06 utc | 28

Interestingly, back in the 1950s in primary school, we had to learn the anthems of several countries. My favorite was Canada’s “The Maple Leaf Forever,” which, being politically incorrect and probably offensive to some Canadians, is rarely sung today I would guess. It certainly has more soul than “Oh, Canada” for sure.

Posted by: Ensley | Jul 4 2006 12:16 utc | 29

No way Canada can become part of the USA: socialized medicine, legalized pot and a large Francophone population all make it completely indigestible, no moatter how much maple syrup we slather it in.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jul 4 2006 18:32 utc | 30

The US anthem “I wanna be sedated” is the #1 best national anthem of all time and all you foreign jack-offs who think different are just feudal dust waiting for the wind. So there.

Posted by: citizen k | Jul 4 2006 22:06 utc | 31

Here’s my anthem Stir It UP
btw, I had a copy of Buffalo Soldiers on a bob marley cassette that much faster than the standard and I really liked it a lot better. I’ve never been able to find it again. anyone else here familiar with that version?

Posted by: fauxreal | Jul 4 2006 22:36 utc | 32

Thanks for posting this, Bernhard. I was at a family picnic all day yesterday so I have just read the comments today.
As for Afghanistan, Canadians are being told that we are there to help against the repression of women etc., although not all believe it. A recent poll shows opposition rising from 41% in mid-March to 54% in May. That’s just before the 17 “terrorists” were arrested in Toronto a couple of weeks later. Related?
From a later poll after the suspects were arrested and charged in a courthouse surrounded with SWAT teams, well-covered on TV,

“Indeed, total support for sending troops rose to 48 per cent, compared to 40 per cent in a similar poll conducted May 3-4.
Those opposed dropped 10 points to 44 per cent since May.”

Also, in support of how swallowing Quebec might be a little tough for the US, from the first source: “in Quebec, opposition rose from 53 to 70 percent.”
Did you know Canada’s new young Governor General is from Haiti? She is well-educated, well-spoken and the only thing related to that country covered by the news. Canada is complicit with France and the US in training “police” forces to maintain control of the island nation. Another black eye.
As for new national anthems, I’d like to see one for the world — however citizen k does hit the mark pretty well too, and it could apply quite well to more than just the US.
While I’m at it, have a good 4th of July, neighbours.

Posted by: jonku | Jul 4 2006 22:42 utc | 33

I think the most likely scenario for Canada is more like Puerto Rico – the n’th “protectorate” rather than the 50+nth state… Empires don’t dilute control.

Posted by: PeeDee | Jul 4 2006 22:51 utc | 34

Get Up, Stand Up

Posted by: fauxreal | Jul 4 2006 22:53 utc | 35

Finlandia
by Jean Sibelius
Lloyd Stone wrote an international version of the lyrics in 1934
This is my song, Oh God of all the nations,
A song of peace for lands afar and mine.
This is my home, the country where my heart is;
Here are my hopes, my dreams, my sacred shrine.
But other hearts in other lands are beating,
With hopes and dreams as true and high as mine.
My country’s skies are bluer than the ocean,
And sunlight beams on cloverleaf and pine.
But other lands have sunlight too and clover,
And skies are everywhere as blue as mine.
Oh hear my song, oh God of all the nations,
A song of peace for their land and for mine.
Another verse by Josh Mitteldorf, for difficult times
When nations rage, and fears erupt coercive,
The drumbeats sound, invoking pious cause.
My neighbors rise, their stalwart hearts they offer,
The gavels drop, suspending rights and laws.
While others wield their swords with blind devotion;
For peace I’ll stand, my true and steadfast cause.
A verse by Georgia Harkness
May truth and freedom come to every nation;
May peace abound where strife has raged so long;
That each may seek to love and build together,
A world united, righting every wrong;
A world united in its love for freedom,
Proclaiming peace together in one song.

Posted by: gylangirl | Jul 6 2006 17:35 utc | 36

[Above info on the Finlandia Hymn from answers.com]

Posted by: gylangirl | Jul 6 2006 17:44 utc | 37

Thank you, Gylangirl. I thought about posting the lovely Lloyd Stone text as well. It is a popular hymn among Unitarian Universalists. I can’t sing the following without tearing up, because it includes human relationship to the earth as well:
My country’s skies are bluer than the ocean,
And sunlight beams on cloverleaf and pine.
But other lands have sunlight too and clover,
And skies are everywhere as blue as mine.

Posted by: catlady | Jul 6 2006 18:01 utc | 38

@Catlady,
I first heard this song on the eve of the Iraq invasion and yes, while trying to join in my congregation’s singing, I couldn’t finish it for crying.

Posted by: gylangirl | Jul 7 2006 3:16 utc | 39

Finlandia

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 7 2006 4:16 utc | 40