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June 13, 2006
OT 06-52
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No coalition on Iran – Japan skips out: Japan Wary Of Plan for Sanctions Against Iran
Monbiot: Behind the spin, the oil giants are more dangerous than ever
Call to Decision Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 13 2006 7:12 utc | 3 NSA Blocking Whistleblower From Telling Committee About Shocking, Illegal Activities Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 13 2006 7:16 utc | 4
Sorry, don’t mean to flood the board, but being as we are sure to lose the internet soon to big money lobbist’s with the Net neutrality bullshit. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 13 2006 7:37 utc | 6 Two interesting bits of news today: Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 13 2006 15:11 utc | 8 Rove off the hook?
Maybe – Luskin has lied before. A unannounced state visit
That must be the result of the “strategy session” Bush had on Iraq over the weekend. Now we know it was a PR strategy session. and what does it say about his calls for responsible fuel consumption when he flies eleven hours to spend less than five hours at his destination? Posted by: b real | Jun 13 2006 15:41 utc | 11 When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro, or go to Mexico. Posted by: Ambrose Bierce | Jun 13 2006 16:06 utc | 12 @b – He’ll be sneaking around for the rest of his miserable life. Posted by: beq | Jun 13 2006 16:24 utc | 13 “Sorry, don’t mean to flood the board, but being as we are sure to lose the internet soon to big money lobbist’s with the Net neutrality bullshit.” Posted by: pb | Jun 13 2006 18:12 utc | 14 hey, b- and others here who read the crystal pawnshop balls of wall street. Posted by: fauxreal | Jun 13 2006 18:52 utc | 15 People have been conditioned to ignore the long term deficit: Pay later. They claim instead it’s the concern over rising interest rates intended to curb inflation… Posted by: gylangirl | Jun 13 2006 20:34 utc | 16 @fauxreal “what’s up there? or rather, what’s down?” Posted by: PeeDee | Jun 13 2006 21:38 utc | 17 Of all the mean low down walk under a snake’s belly stunts that Israel has pulled during the illegal occupation of Palestine (see numerous ignored UN resolutions), Israeli gutlessness in trying to duck the consequences of their deed, the murder of that young family picnicking on a beach in Gaza is the lowest, BY FAR!. And believe me that is really low. Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 13 2006 22:17 utc | 18 Posted by: | Jun 13, 2006 6:17:26 PM | 18 Posted by: Amurra | Jun 13 2006 23:22 utc | 19
–President Bush, seen Monday at Camp David, saw his approval rating rise in the latest USA TODAY/CNN Gallup poll.
Posted by: heatkernel | Jun 13 2006 23:31 utc | 20 debs & amurra Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 13 2006 23:55 utc | 21 I feel compelled to state as a newcomer that I detest, (I can’t think of a stronger word) bigotry and racism. I understand the difference between zionists and Jews. I say this because I used words like ‘they’ and ‘them’ and I realized I might be misunderstood. Posted by: Amurra | Jun 14 2006 0:12 utc | 22 I wonder how many security checks bush had to complete to prove he wasn’t concealing a bomb intended to blow up al-maliki and his cabinet? Posted by: slothrop | Jun 14 2006 0:20 utc | 23 remembereringgiap, Posted by: Amurra | Jun 14 2006 0:45 utc | 24 Too much focusing on the minutae around here, rather than on reasons for atrocities… Posted by: jj | Jun 14 2006 1:07 utc | 25 amurra Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 14 2006 1:21 utc | 26 @ JJ: Posted by: Longshanks | Jun 14 2006 1:56 utc | 27 for a chuckle, check out the arial photo: Des Moines’ well-endowed flood control Posted by: b real | Jun 14 2006 2:41 utc | 28 erm, aerial
could it have anything to do w/ worries over possible war crimes charges? plans to dominate the world, etc can probably make a person paranoid. Posted by: b real | Jun 14 2006 2:59 utc | 29 @ B real: Posted by: LS | Jun 14 2006 3:13 utc | 30 i’ll nominate this as one of the most tasteless headlines of late: Girl who saw family die on beach becomes icon and media celebrity Posted by: b real | Jun 14 2006 3:34 utc | 31 And Amurra, you do not needs to make this distinction to most thinking adults, with an IQ above 25. Posted by: Amurra | Jun 14 2006 3:57 utc | 32 I think a hair-trigger desire to huffily leap on whatever high horse of righteous indignation is currently tethered in the stable of your elitest wit was the true motivating factor for your unconvincing and impotent loofness Amurra. Your personal control drama is showing, better cover it up. So you can quit playing the aloof messiah. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 14 2006 5:08 utc | 33 If remembering the real acts of evil perpetrated on real people is minutae, I’ll take that every day ahead of insane and totally unsupportable conspiracy theories which not only reduce the reality of these criminals’ actions to an abstraction of who said what to whom, when, it robs the victims of any power they may have had. Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 14 2006 5:51 utc | 34 Normally when one finds they have a neigbor who continually peers out the blinds at one, shouts threats and deprecations at passers-by or accuses people of poisoning their cats, living next door to one, it is possible to call up the out-reach psych team and let them know the crazy bloke next door is off his meds again.
Car alarms are a pain in the ass, however what would happen if the Venezualan ambassador to the UN called a press conference to complain that NYPD weren’t doing their job in catching the juvies on the CIA payroll who were setting off his car alarms at all hours. Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 14 2006 6:56 utc | 35 Composer Gyorgy Ligeti died. from debs- Posted by: fauxreal | Jun 14 2006 10:12 utc | 38 @Fauxreal: Posted by: Carlos Marcello | Jun 14 2006 13:34 utc | 39 While Olmert is traveling to “sell” his project of annectating the West Bank (or at least 80% of its water and 20% of its land). And while Olemert agrees to give weaons to the Abbas puppet so he can fight a civil war against Hamas, some Israeli are still fighting back.
Journalists? We need no f****** press here!
The New Yorker with a 2001 Ligety piece: LIGETI SPLIT – The composer as comedian.
I did link to a metronome performance above. A great composer. ligeti’s requiem is one of the wonders of the world. kubrick used it in 2001, but ligeti was uncompensated. Posted by: slothrop | Jun 14 2006 18:47 utc | 43 the continuing attack on ward churchill & academic freedom Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 14 2006 19:20 utc | 44 r’giap- thanks for that link. here was churchill’s response to the report: Summary of Fallacies in the University of Colorado Report Posted by: b real | Jun 14 2006 19:57 utc | 45 well Bernhard, Klinsman was noticeably relieved. So many missed chances but they finally put one in the net. Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 14 2006 21:10 utc | 46 Uncle $cam, Posted by: Amuura | Jun 14 2006 23:08 utc | 47 @Amuura Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 14 2006 23:31 utc | 48
Posted by: annie | Jun 14 2006 23:33 utc | 49 Annie, Posted by: Amurra | Jun 15 2006 0:47 utc | 52 BuzzFlash interview: Greg Palast
Posted by: mats | Jun 15 2006 0:56 utc | 53 Rage is a violent reaction to wholesale betrayal-that implodes or explodes. Posted by: Mme Blatavasky | Jun 15 2006 1:22 utc | 54 @Unca Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 15 2006 3:30 utc | 55 Dear NSA, …
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 15 2006 4:21 utc | 57 When Iran did get the last negotiation offer from the EU-3, U.S., Russia, China no penalties were included and no timeframe for a response. “What is to be done?” or are we still not through yet with “What has been done?”
you can’t know what is to be done until you know the enemy. and when i say ‘know’ i’m not meaning’identify’ i mean comprehend. Posted by: annie | Jun 15 2006 4:54 utc | 59 As a random gossipy aside about our favorite blogger after Bernhard. Over at Stop Me Before I Vote Again a scattershot attack on liberal blogs hit Billmon and Billmon’s hitting back. It’s a bit childish (okay, a lot childish!) but it’s got the comments there going as a conversation. And, you know, maybe some of us missed seeing Billmon angry. Posted by: Rowan | Jun 15 2006 5:15 utc | 61 @b or others
Later, the article also says:
How can IEA know inventory levels and not know storage capacity? Where is the “storage capacity” located? Who controls that stored oil? How do IEA gather their data? Is it reliable?
The fine points of oil trading are over my head, but the article seems curious to an outsider. Posted by: small coke | Jun 15 2006 5:33 utc | 62 Honor Bound to Defend Freedom – sign in front of Gitmo………. Posted by: EnoughAlready(x-jj!) | Jun 15 2006 5:51 utc | 63 Honor bound to defend freedom Posted by: citizen k | Jun 15 2006 6:16 utc | 64 @Rowan Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 15 2006 7:16 utc | 65 @ small coke Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 15 2006 10:51 utc | 66 @small coke – There is currently enough oil within the OECD to cover 54 days of demand, versus 59 days in August 1998. Via Cryptome, here is the listing from Alex Jones’ site of Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 15 2006 15:20 utc | 68 there’s an update @ rowans 61 link Posted by: annie | Jun 15 2006 17:01 utc | 69 @annie – Wow. That’s about all I have to say to that. Posted by: Rowan | Jun 15 2006 19:51 utc | 70 @fauxreal“is that ennui meant as “worry-boredom” or in the sense of an unremitting sense of weary annoyance? how do you think the liberals tar the oppressed with ennui? Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 15 2006 21:32 utc | 71 This seems to be above and beyond, though. Posted by: annie | Jun 15 2006 21:34 utc | 72 guns and butter, is one of unca’s fav programs, if your not listening to g&b your missin out… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 15 2006 22:45 utc | 73 Uncle $cam: Posted by: citizen k | Jun 15 2006 23:16 utc | 74 You like those whiners as “stop me before I turn my nose up so far my neck breaks”? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 15 2006 23:44 utc | 75 Well, it should have been: “Really? what do you like about them?” Posted by: citizen k | Jun 15 2006 23:48 utc | 76 Judge Rules That U.S. Has Broad Powers to Detain Noncitizens Indefinitely Posted by: annie | Jun 16 2006 0:54 utc | 77 An interesting, amusing story, that you present Annie, Rowan, and Scam. Posted by: Carlos Marcello | Jun 16 2006 1:11 utc | 78 Can we play some poker, to escape the ennui and infantility of all this. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 16 2006 1:25 utc | 79 billmon’s got a new post up. let’s hit the whiskey bar. booze, i want booze now!!! then lets’ play spin the bottle. my specialty 😉 Posted by: annie | Jun 16 2006 1:30 utc | 80 I’ve always wanted to learn Go, but it’s never stuck with me. I do enjoy chess, but bring me a poker table and I’m game. Posted by: Rowan | Jun 16 2006 1:32 utc | 81 I like to see “fucktards” making utter fools of themselves. Posted by: Miss Manners | Jun 16 2006 1:40 utc | 82 @citizen k Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 16 2006 1:40 utc | 83 @ Rowan Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 16 2006 1:49 utc | 84 Well, I applaud that sentiment Unc, but what I saw on that site was the usual petulant narcisism of the upper west side and Berkeley “left”. Posted by: citizen k | Jun 16 2006 1:58 utc | 85 Signals Intelligence(SigInt) is interesting, when you analyze it vigorously. Posted by: YMCA-NSA-Westy1 | Jun 16 2006 2:21 utc | 86 @citizen k
The problem is, this is not really about spying on ‘evildoers’: it’s about spying on everyone to get them both accustomed to 24/7 surveillance. Also, it’s to make people afraid to talk to each other if their views differ from those of the administration. They’ll play hell shutting me up, at least until I’m draged off to reeducation camp.
Translation: unless you have a great deal of money, you won’t be able to request info from the Archive on a FOIA. This of course limits private citizens’ access to these Archives, which is precisely the design intent. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 16 2006 2:52 utc | 87 From Cryptome, the link to the web site of the Privare Security Company Association of Iraq. Useful database, and a helpful reminder of the panoply of mercenary mouths feeding at U.S. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 16 2006 6:57 utc | 88 Gabriel Kolko’s getting Nervous. “The Demons of Greed are Loose” Why a Global Economic Deluge Looms Posted by: EnoughAlready(x-jj!) | Jun 16 2006 7:13 utc | 89 Notice we’ve had some weirdos around lately? Well, trollery is now a Paid Occupation. More here. Suggestions on tracking them down Here. Posted by: EnoughAlready | Jun 16 2006 7:29 utc | 90 must admit I alway sort of assumed that organisations like netvocates were going hard at it since last century. Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 16 2006 10:10 utc | 91 Robert Parry discusses recent developments in the Hariri assassination, in particular the change in atmospherics Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 16 2006 10:24 utc | 92 “Notice we’ve had some weirdos around lately?” Posted by: gmac | Jun 16 2006 12:53 utc | 93 trascript of john pilger’s address at the april panel at columbia univ, ‘breaking the silence: war, lies and empire’, featuring pilger, sy hersh, & charlie glass: War by Media
an earlier article on that panel discussion: Normalizing the Unthinkable Posted by: b real | Jun 16 2006 14:34 utc | 94 as a follow up to breal, jamison foser on media matters sees media as the defining issue of our time. he opened his june 9th post with: “The defining issue of our time is the media. Whatever issue you care most about, media coverage of that issue is likely a key stumbling block to real, progressive change.” And then looks at how the conservative misinformation masquerading as coverage of the lead up to the invasion and the occupation of Iraq and global warming is shaping how the world deals with these two critical issues. Posted by: conchita | Jun 16 2006 16:30 utc | 95 est-que les cafard ala Churchill’s le chien noir? Ou comme “avoir le cafard?” Posted by: fauxreal | Jun 16 2006 17:55 utc | 96 How “Al Quaida” developed “chemical and bio weapons”: ok, a little sound track for good measure friday i got the edge i got the flow Posted by: annie | Jun 16 2006 18:23 utc | 98 conchita- you’re cenergy is impressive. you go. Posted by: slothrop | Jun 16 2006 18:26 utc | 99 |
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