Billmon:
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go scrape the rest of it off my shoes.
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April 20, 2006
WB: Profiles in Chicken Shit
Billmon:
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The republicans are robbing the American till and the Democrats are driving the get away car. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 20 2006 9:39 utc | 1 Readers of this blog will know how protective I am of my chickens. Therefore I’ll make a special effort to shield your words from them. Mrs. Brown, the DoDo sisters, and the rest of the flock would be most insulted by your inference. Posted by: anna missed | Apr 20 2006 10:02 utc | 3 If only Tony Blair had it that easy with his opposition (and his own party)… Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 20 2006 10:40 utc | 4 What ambition they may have had for Iraq, Iran and Syria are now not in any sense achievable. They now need continued hostilities/siege beyond their political lives so that they can keep their asses out of jail. What other reason could exist at this point, except perpetual war will render obscure the responsibilities for current failures and crimes. There is no urgency to address Iran in any military security context. The only ones truly served will be the regimes of both sides appear to want this war purely for own political reasons not national interests. Posted by: YY | Apr 20 2006 10:51 utc | 5 Since the dems genuflect at the alter of AIPAC equally as enthusiastically as he rethugs, one would infer that the faxes are flying. I haven’t checked AIPAC prouncements, but I’d be willing to wager they’re continuing to push hard for attack, having cross-pollinated with the neocon clusterfuck. Posted by: DonS | Apr 20 2006 12:35 utc | 6 At this point, when the Democrats have the same military-industrial manufacturing facilities in their districts as the Republicans, and take the same money from the weapons lobbyists as the Republicans, and represent the same class interests as the Republicans; when even the Liberal lion, Ted Kennedy, lays it all on the line in support of a Level 5 Bioweapons lab in the very heart of Boston; when all this is true, and obvious, why is what Billmon says about the Dems being wolfs in sheep’s clothing even notable anymore? Posted by: Malooga | Apr 20 2006 13:30 utc | 7 Malooga – What are your thoughts on re-instating a draft? As a way of motivation for the masses, would it work again? Did it before? Posted by: beq | Apr 20 2006 13:36 utc | 8 As I child, I would read the Bible and marvel at the injustice of collective punishment. As the story went, God would wipe out whole cities – when, to my childish mind, it seemed that there certainly must have been many innocent inhabitants thereof. This was part of the reason I turned away from the simple faith that seems to so satisfy others. Posted by: abamalama | Apr 20 2006 14:35 utc | 9 I think that the elite are very scared of the draft. They are worried that it would increase resistance to the war, increase class consciousness, and, to a lesser extent, increase consciousness of the greater deleterious effects of American empire to the world. Remember that the protests during the Vietnam War were primarily about not wanting to get one’s own ass shot; greater political awakening did occur, but to a much lesser degree. Posted by: Malooga | Apr 20 2006 16:04 utc | 10 Um, why are you guys trashing the dems? Everyone at Dailykos tells me they’re going to save the world…I’m new but I thought I could trust those guys. I wanna be part of a movement. Posted by: Addicted | Apr 20 2006 16:32 utc | 11 @malooga – draft
It’s hard to tell if is satire or real, but I opt for real. Yeah, its a trial balloon. I don’t think it will go far, outside of a New “New Pearl Harbor.” I’m not sure if there is a differnce between satire and real in the Ubu Roi media spectacle world we inhabit. And that comment is not meant as satire. Posted by: Malooga | Apr 20 2006 17:13 utc | 13 Thanks for that Malooga. It’s always hard to imagine how it could play out. So much at stake. How to get the uninformed to think about having their own skin in the game with no easy way out of it. Posted by: beq | Apr 20 2006 17:28 utc | 14 re democracy now today, i was hoping jeremy or the mrs. helvenston would question the official explanation that the fallujah four were “escorting three empty trucks on their way to pick up some kitchen equipment”. while it sounds like scott helvenston himself hadn’t been in the area for long, there were reports at the time that blackwater was involved in more clandestine activities than using ex-seals/rangers to escort kitchen equipment. Posted by: b real | Apr 20 2006 17:36 utc | 15 Yes, I was thinking that too. Forgot to mention it. It does seem rather unbeleiveable. Stuff like that would move in a huge convoy up from Kuwait. Posted by: Malooga | Apr 20 2006 17:48 utc | 16 I’m wondering if after attacking Iran and the enormous crisis that such an action will create, will Bush declare martial law and cancel the 2008 presidential election? Posted by: Marc | Apr 20 2006 18:28 utc | 17 Interesting question, reenstating the draft. Malooga is no doubt right that it would intesify resistance to the war effort. This is the same lesson I took from the recent immigration protests. When people lose a personal choice in the matter and they become vulnerable, personally, can imagine quite vividly a personal consequence which they have lost control over. This, as most of us would agree, would clear up a lot of the moral ambiguity that is so often used by the zelots on the right that are happy to fight wars vicariously or by proxie — like say, the college republicans. Rhetorically amusing, yes, but, I wonder would it be enough (to stop it) — or, is it the right moral position to take to become an ironic advocate for what your against. And here, I’m as guilty as anyone, having cynically argued the other day on the need to keep rumsfeld as secretary of defence as a kind of failure insurance and clarity regarding culpibility. Interestingly, the draft issue would effect me and my own on the same level that I might find myself arguing that it should effect others, in that I could be advocating the draft of my own son into a war that both of us disagree. And could’nt this advocacy then be construed as support for the war effort not unlike the democrats tacit support we all loath so reguarly? Especially if there were to be some (fabracated) event (like Iran) that would necessitate a real draft. Gotta be careful what we wish for here, because as Grace Slick once sang “when the men on the chess board get up and tell you where to move” — it might be you. Posted by: anna missed | Apr 20 2006 19:00 utc | 18 Malooga, at one level you’re right. It’s not going to improve things much. On the other hand, I could live with a standard issue self-interested US administration. It’s the current regime’s messianic tendencies that worry me immediately. The differences and opposition between Team Red and Team Blue are entirely artificial and engineered by both of them. Posted by: Noisette | Apr 20 2006 20:25 utc | 20 “There will be no draft in the US in my life time. It is dangerous and unecessary. The Democrats, e.g. Kerry, who spoke for it, only did so because they were out of power. Once in their tune will change.” Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 21 2006 2:42 utc | 21 |
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